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| 01-29-18 06:45am - 2426 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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iknowwazzup (0)
Active User  Posts: 132 Registered: Jan 06, '16 Location: United States |
Disrespecting POTUS I don't want to get into a big political discussion, but I will have to admit that President Trump is not the greatest leader in my books. But, still, I sometimes feel as if the mockery of him goes a bit too far, it is like mocking what many consider the great democracy in the world rather than just him as an individual. And don't get me wrong - the right to freedom of speech trumps (if you'll pardon the pun) formality merely for the sake of formality. However, I think that it's one thing for a comedy show like SNL to make fun of a sitting US President - satire is sort of their job after all. But it was a bit much for the Grammys to go political with a skit mocking the President. I also don't always get the purpose of such jokes (not just in the US, but in any country) - I mean beyond the low hanging comedy fruit that they represent. Most people aren't going to change their minds about a leader or his/her party - let alone their votes - based solely on comedy routines. It just seems to pit voters and party supporters against each other in an even more derisive fashion. Maybe, I am taking it all too seriously, though? Edited by Staff on Apr 03, 2018, 08:00am | |
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| 01-29-18 08:01am - 2426 days | #2 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
1-Respect is a two way street. If you don't show any than it's unlikely that others will show you any in return. For that reason Donald Trump will never be shown any respect and that's all on him. 2-Political humour as always existed. The only difference is the medium in which it propagates. Once upon a time it was only in print and then it became print and radio and to that we added television when they became more abundant and to those we have added the internet. That last one is a bigger problem for Trump because he uses the internet as a weapon and in return people use the internet as a weapon against him. 3-I don't know if you have realised it but Donald Trump is by far the worst offender when it comes to pitting one Party against the other and the Republicans are just as guilty of doing that because they certainly aren't trying to do any bi-partisans negotiation. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-29-18 08:50am - 2426 days | #3 | |
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Onyx (0)
In-Activated by Staff Posts: 149 Registered: Nov 28, '17 |
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| 01-29-18 09:21am - 2426 days | #4 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I don't agree. Maybe in a perfect world respect is a 2-way street. In the real world, respect is usually a 1-way street. Trump says, continuously, he loves everyone. What that translates to is that he loves himself. He respects himself. Everyone else is a sucker, that he will use, and then discard as needed. Maybe I'm simplifying. Trump just doesn't pit one party against the other. When he ran for president, he attacked everyone in his party that was a competitor. With the most outrageous lies. He said Ted Cruz's father was involved in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Then Trump said it was proved because Ted Cruz did not deny it. (Even though Ted Cruz did deny it-Trump kept claiming Ted Cruz did not deny it.) Trump said, again and again, Obama was not born in the US, which would have made Obama not eligible to be President. Trump lies constantly. That's part of the reason he uses the fake news: any criticism of Trump is fake news. Whether the news is true or not does not matter: it's fake news. Most politicians learn to lie. It's part of the job. The public must be protected from Government secrets. But Trump takes lying to an extreme. And the public, and his party, seems to allow his lies. Truth is a matter of viewpoint. That's basic. That's a two-way street (or more than a two-way street, because most facts and events can be interpreted in many ways.) If you look at Nixon's scandals, at Clinton scandals, you will often find truth depends on which party the politician belongs to. And that is also true for how politicians view and support Trump: it depends on which party the politician belongs to. My party right or wrong: Except if Trump is President, and you're a Republican, Trump can do no wrong. (A simplification, but that's the general idea.) | |
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| 01-29-18 10:41am - 2425 days | #5 | |
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Onyx (0)
In-Activated by Staff Posts: 149 Registered: Nov 28, '17 |
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| 01-29-18 12:19pm - 2425 days | #6 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Trump is inspired by true events. But just like in the movies, he uses artistic freedom. To shape the events to his own purposes. That is why he speaks about fake news: fake news that does not fit his version of the truth. But his truth is flexible. It shifts to fit Trump's needs and visions and realities. Does that make sense? I think so. There are many people who believe their own bullshit. And Trump is probably one of them. I'm the greatest. If I own a car, it's the greatest car. If I own a house, it's the greatest house. That's just the way some people think. And Trump takes it to an extreme. | |
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| 01-29-18 12:47pm - 2425 days | #7 | |
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Onyx (0)
In-Activated by Staff Posts: 149 Registered: Nov 28, '17 |
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| 01-29-18 06:06pm - 2425 days | #8 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
If he isn't than what is he exactly because in my book an individual who says that he believes two diametrically opposing view points is by definition a liar because he has to be lying about one of those views points. In the case of Trump it's even more glaring because he will do that in the same sentence and has done so more than once. That said I agree with his supporters that the people who voted for him already knew that about him and if they didn't or didn't care than they have no one to blame for what is now happening. It's really too bad that the damage he, his administration and the Republican party are doing to the reputation of the US around the world won't be appreciated until much later when it comes time to sign a treaty or trade deal because most Countries now realise that any deal signed with the US Government isn't worth the paper it's signed on. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-29-18 06:08pm - 2425 days | #9 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I'm more than willing to accept your statement as a fact but I need you to give me at least three examples of fake news. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 01-29-18 10:47pm - 2425 days | #10 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
FAKE NEWS ALERT!!! US issues Putin List of Russian politicians. Trump attacks Putin, which will lead to Putin's downfall. Trump caves in to US Congress, vows to fight to the death Putin's allies, and to kill forevermore the Commie threat to the United States. All hail Trump, the greatest, most fearless President the United States has ever had. END OF FAKE NEWS ALERT.... If you read the news article below, you begin to understand how Trump is the master of the deal. Congress orders the executive branch to punish Russia with sanctions. And Trump responds: Ha, ha, I've punished Russia with sanctions. State Department officials said the threat of sanctions had been deterrent enough, and that 'sanctions on specific entities or individuals will not need to be imposed.' ==== ==== US issues 'Putin list' of Russian politicians, oligarchs Associated Press JOSH LEDERMAN,Associated Press 9 minutes ago WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration late Monday released a long-awaited list of 114 Russian politicians and 96 "oligarchs" who have flourished during the reign of President Vladimir Putin, fulfilling a demand by Congress that the U.S. punish Moscow for interfering in the 2016 U.S. election. Yet the administration paired that move with a surprising announcement that it had decided not to punish anybody — for now — under new sanctions retaliating for the election-meddling. Some U.S. lawmakers accused President Donald Trump of giving Russia a free pass, fueling further questions about whether the president is unwilling to confront America's Cold War foe. Known informally as the "Putin list," the seven-page unclassified document is a who's who of politically connected Russians in the country's elite class. The idea, as envisioned by Congress, is to name-and-shame those believed to be benefiting from Putin's tenure just as the United States works to isolate his government diplomatically and economically. Being on the list doesn't trigger any U.S. sanctions on the individuals, although more than a dozen are already targeted under earlier sanctions. Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev is among the 114 senior political figures in Russia's government who made the list, along with 42 of Putin's aides, Cabinet ministers such as Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, and top officials in Russia's leading spy agencies, the FSB and GRU. The CEOs of major state-owned companies, including energy giant Rosneft and Sberbank, are also on the list. So are 96 wealthy Russians deemed "oligarchs" by the Treasury Department, which said each is believed to have assets totaling $1 billion or more. Some are the most famous of wealthy Russians, among them tycoons Roman Abramovich and Mikhail Prokhorov, who challenged Putin in the 2012 election. Aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, a figure in the Russia investigation over his ties to former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, is included. The Trump administration had until Monday to issue the list under a law passed last year. After declining to answer questions about it throughout the day Monday, the Treasury Department released it with little fanfare 12 minutes before midnight. Even more names, including those of less-senior politicians or businesspeople worth less than $1 billion, are on a classified version of the list being provided to Congress, officials said. Drawing on U.S. intelligence, Treasury also finalized a list of at least partially state-owned companies in Russia, but that list, too, was classified and sent only to Congress. There was no immediate comment early Tuesday from the Kremlin or the Russian Embassy in Washington. In the works for months, the list has induced fear among rich Russians who are concerned that it could lead to U.S. sanctions or to being informally blacklisted in the global financial system. It triggered a fierce lobbying campaign, with Russia hawks in Congress pushing the administration to include certain names and lobbyists hired by Russian businessmen urging the administration to keep their clients off. The list's release was likely to at least partially diffuse the disappointment from some lawmakers that Trump's administration opted against targeting anyone with new Russia sanctions that took effect Monday. Under the same law that authorized the "Putin list," the government was required to slap sanctions on anyone doing "significant" business with people linked to Russia's defense and intelligence agencies, using a blacklist the U.S. released in October. But the administration decided it didn't need to penalize anyone, even though several countries have had multibillion-dollar arms deals with Russia in the works. State Department officials said the threat of sanctions had been deterrent enough, and that "sanctions on specific entities or individuals will not need to be imposed." "We estimate that foreign governments have abandoned planned or announced purchases of several billion dollars in Russian defense acquisitions," said State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert. She did not provide evidence or cite any examples. Companies or foreign governments that had been doing business with blacklisted Russian entities had been given a three-month grace period to extricate themselves from transactions, starting in October when the blacklist was published and ending Monday. But only those engaged in "significant transactions" are to be punished, and the United States has never defined that term or given a dollar figure. That ambiguity has made it impossible for the public to know exactly what is and isn't permissible. Late last year, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said one reason the U.S. was proceeding cautiously was that major U.S. allies have much at stake. Turkey, a NATO ally, has a deal to buy the S-400, Russia's most advanced air defense missile system. And key security partner Saudi Arabia recently struck an array of deals with Moscow, including contracts for weapons. It was unclear whether either country had since abandoned those deals to avoid running afoul of the U.S. sanctions. New York Rep. Eliot Engel, the top Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, lambasted the move to punish no one, saying he was "fed up" and that Trump's administration had chosen to "let Russia off the hook yet again." He dismissed the State Department's claim that "the mere threat of sanctions" would stop Moscow from further meddling in America's elections. "How do you deter an attack that happened two years ago, and another that's already underway?" Engel said. "It just doesn't make sense." ___ Associated Press writer Jill Colvin contributed to this report. | |
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| 01-29-18 11:00pm - 2425 days | #11 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
The truth will set you free! The 9/11 attacks were an inside job conducted by the American government and the Sandy Hook school killings in Newtown, Conn., were also faked. And the FBI is being used by criminals to blacken the name of President Trump. Is this the United States of America, or some third-world crackpot shithole country? With Trump in charge, I'm not sure if there is any difference. --- --- GOP Rep. Gaetz joins the 'Infowar' against the FBI Christopher Wilson 8 hours ago Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., did an extended interview Monday with Alex Jones, the nation’s leading peddler of conspiracy theories, in an attempt to prove he was not a conspiracy theorist. Interviewed on Jones’s show, Infowars, Gaetz urged the release of a House Intelligence Committee memo that many Republicans say will cast doubt on the legitimacy of the FBI investigation into President Trump’s campaign. Democrats have said that the memo is based on incomplete information and creates a false narrative, and the Justice Department has warned that releasing the memo without a security review would be “extraordinarily reckless.” “We’re called conspiracy theorists because we see this cabal right in front of us,” said Gaetz. “We’re able to aggregate these data points and show what was really going on.” Jones is a right-wing conspiracy theorist who has charged that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job conducted by the American government and that the Sandy Hook school killings in Newtown, Conn., were also faked. After a gunman fired shots in a Washington, D.C., restaurant, Jones apologized for pushing the theory that the proprietors of Comet Ping Pong were running a child pedophile ring out of its basement. (The gunman said he was a frequent listener of Jones and was on a self-appointed mission to rescue the imaginary victims.) Last year Jones was also forced to apologize to the Chobani yogurt company and the city of Twin Falls, Idaho, after broadcasting that refugees working in Chobani’s plant were spreading disease and crime. Gaetz, a first-term congressman and Freedom Caucus member, is not the first well-known Republican politician to visit Jones. In December 2015, then candidate Trump told the host he had an “excellent reputation.” Jones claims he is still in contact with Trump, although Axios has reported that officials in the White House were attempting to limit Trump’s access to Infowars. Jones assured Gaetz that while media companies would criticize him for appearing on the show, he should be proud of visiting. “MSM’s [mainstream media] gonna attack you for coming on the show,” said Jones, “but that’s a badge of honor, the president’s come on before.” Gaetz mentioned text messages between an FBI lawyer and FBI agent that he claims show a conspiracy to stop Trump from winning the 2016 election, and subsequently to remove him from the White House. (Republican legislators last week pushed the idea of a secret society of agents to depose Trump, claims that were later debunked.) A member of the far-right Freedom Caucus, the congressman has been pushing for months for the resignation of special counsel Robert Mueller. The House could vote on releasing the controversial Intelligence Committee memo as soon as Monday. After the vote, Trump would have five days to either allow the release to move forward or file an objection. Monday also saw the resignation of FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who has been the object of suspicion by many Republican representatives. | |
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| 01-30-18 12:55am - 2425 days | #12 | |
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Onyx (0)
In-Activated by Staff Posts: 149 Registered: Nov 28, '17 |
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| 01-30-18 01:22am - 2425 days | #13 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User  Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
It's kind of funny to me. I'm most offended by the way the same "comedy" is used towards Trump. Politics aren't my thing. I haven't felt or seen them have a direct impact on my life. My general feeling is that I support whoever is in the White House. I liked Obama, Dubya, Clinton and Trump no matter what, takes a lot of negativity that is only there because our American society is too politically-correct. I actually had an employee tell me that I was denying her emotions. To which I replied, "I didn't hire your emotions and don't pay you for your emotions." We're becoming way too soft for Americans. The denied emotions were over her asking if she could leave early to go to the vet with her husband to have their dog's teeth cleaned. I said, "I brush my dog's teeth." She said, "Yeah well, I'm careful with my dog's teeth and it's emotional for me." No, that was not a laugh from me lol. The main point though, I used to watch the late shows before going to bed but they're all repetitive jokes about Trump. I've lost nearly all interest in comedy these days because no one is funny anymore. It's either mocking, puking, poor sarcasm or geeky humor that I don't get. Last, I do think the president should be respected. I think years ago on here I talked about being raised to respect everyone and it's hard these days but I as my past shows with liking all the presidents during my adult life, I think that's why I have liked them all. There's a line somewhere that they could cross but none have neared it. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 01-30-18 04:29am - 2425 days | #14 | |
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Onyx (0)
In-Activated by Staff Posts: 149 Registered: Nov 28, '17 |
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| 01-30-18 04:42am - 2425 days | #15 | |
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Onyx (0)
In-Activated by Staff Posts: 149 Registered: Nov 28, '17 |
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| 01-30-18 02:17pm - 2424 days | #16 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
More fake news. This story has to be fake, because it says that Trump (who owns lots of golf courses) cheats at golf. How can a man who owns lots of golf courses cheat at golf? ---- ---- Trump 'Cheats Like Hell' at Golf, Says LPGA Star, Who Questions His Business Acumen Newsweek Greg Price,Newsweek 6 hours ago President Donald Trump “cheats like hell” when he plays golf and is not nearly the caliber of player he claims to be, a top LPGA player told a Norwegian newspaper during an interview. Suzann Pettersen, who has won two majors and 15 tour events and has known Trump for more than a decade, employed an old adage that likens one’s golf game to how one conducts himself or herself in the business world. "He cheats like hell," Pettersen said, according to golf.com. "So I don't quite know how he is in business. They say that if you cheat at golf, you cheat at business." The Norway native also said Trump’s drives often look they are flying well off the fairway but somehow stay out of the rough—and suggested he might be paying his caddies to help him on the course. She also questioned the top-notch scores Trump routinely claims to have shot. "He always says he is the world's best putter. But in all the times I've played him, he's never come close to breaking 80," she said, according to golf.com. "But what's strange is that every time I talk to him he says he just golfed a 69, or that he set a new course record or won a club championship some place. I just laugh." The pair were reportedly close and spoke monthly before Trump took over the White House last year. Pettersen said she does not agree with Trump’s policies and she questioned how he conducted himself on the campaign trail. "I'm not a supporter of what he says or stands for," Pettersen said. "I thought it was very strange during the presidential campaign that he wasn't smarter about how he communicated." Trump has received significant flak throughout his presidency for the amount of time he spends on golf courses. He has visited his golf properties more than 90 times during his first year as president, according to NBC News, and drew criticism last year for driving a cart on a green—a major faux pas in the golf world. This article was first written by Newsweek | |
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| 01-30-18 04:34pm - 2424 days | #17 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
What would the line Trump would have to cross for you to lose respect for him? I am fine with respecting presidents, and while I have disagreed with some of their policies (Bush, W. Bush, Reagan), I think they were all generally respectful and well meaning individuals. I do not get that same feeling from Trump, he has constantly disrespected nearly everyone who disagrees with him in a rather juvenile and unprofessional manner, including former and current presidents. I agree that in some cases political correctness goes too far, but continually stating Obama was born in Kenya, mocking disabled people, judging women purely on looks, defending racists, and his complete lack of understanding of objective truth, I find it very hard to respect this individual. If he holds no respect for the office he holds or the people around him, why should we hold any respect for him? Especially when he seems to have only wanted become president for his own benefit/get back at Obama. On top of all of that, he is a horribly thin skinned person that can't take even a little bit of legitimate criticism without going on some twitter rampage. Imagine if Obama had behaved this way every time Hannity or some other dipshit proclaimed he was a Muslim from Kenya? He didn't, because he is a professional, and an adult. On top of all that, I have a really hard time imagining anyone at PU would support this administration. The repeal of net neutrality could significantly restrict our access to porn. Not to even mention his alignment with hard right "Christians", many of whom are quite outspoken with their opposition to porn. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 01-30-18 11:22pm - 2424 days | #18 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
That's interesting. I haven't heard or seen anything from Leno in a long time and he was one of those late show hosts that I did enjoy watching. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 02-02-18 03:53am - 2422 days | #19 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
The main thing I came away with is that I'm a very different person than slutty and hopefully this won't be taken as me being an insensitive jerk. I stopped buying racism long ago. The only racism in America is towards our native people who live on reservations because they were taught from inferior books and told about how their type, their beliefs would not mix with regular society, not unlike what some prisoners face. Their hope is to work in a casino, making money for the government. There's racism. Slavery was racism. A group of people are broken in spirit and forced to believe they can never be anything more than what they are. What we have in 2018 is separatism. The government insists on telling us we're different and we have different goals and because of those differences we are given our great excuse for when we don't succeed. No idea how the racism myth lives with complete denial towards the natives. I have no problem with someone who disrespects someone over opinions. I believe in consequences and have talked about that for years here on PU. I think the removal of consequences is one of our society's biggest problems. If a person has the guts to spit out a disagreeing opinion, they need to be prepared for how the other person responds and it's a person's right to disrespect that person. It doesn't tell me anything about their character except that they probably get annoyed with all the nonsense around them. I also don't understand when you said "why should we respect him?" I don't care who respects him. And don't mind if you or 1,000,000 despise Trump. That's your right as an American. I don't base my feelings on anything more or less than my feelings. Then the part about the disabled reporter. I didn't know it happened for several weeks. I was watching something on television and saw Trump mocking the reporter in a commercial. He looked like an immature goof or ass but then I read the story about it. This is our soft society. Trying to fix things and only making them worse. Trump acted on instincts and was ticked because he quoted the reporter then the reporter denied it. It made Trump look bad so his instinct was to mock. That's American. What bothered me was if all those against Trump were truly concerned about the reporter who got mocked, why did they force me to see it over and over on commercials? They manipulated the reporter to get an angle against Trump. They took advantage of his humiliation. They were being gaslighters. I trust the man who acted on instincts and screwed up more than the people who sit in an office and plot out a way to use a man's humiliation to destroy another man. Last and it made me laugh a little. You really want me to hold it against him because he judges women on their looks? I do that. I'm not a hypocrite. It's a man's nature. No one is emasculating me. I know some people might not believe that women are offended by the way men are becoming but I own a 24 hour gym in the city I live in. I go 3-4 times a week to workout myself and most of the members are college students since I'm in a college town. If women wanted men to be more like them they wouldn't have invented yoga pants. You wouldn't believe how many women 24-30 come in to the gym and say, "Do I look cute?" and the sad one, "Guys these days are so emotional. They cry and whine about everything. Women from your generation are lucky." The worst part of that is I see it too. College guys walking in with their wireless ear buds, crocheted beanies, hoodies (in a gym), sitting in the corner reading Ayn Rand and all they can talk about is cross-fit. I'm not that sad since it opened a door for me as a single man. I'm not that much older than the women. We're on two very different sides. I did all I could to be respectful. Which is my concern with the political crowds these days. They can't do the things they want others to do. Neither side can. It's "we're right" "you're wrong" or nothing. I sometimes wonder if they know what the word opinion means. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 02-02-18 09:36pm - 2421 days | #20 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User  Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
I think people of all stripes take politics too seriously. I'm no fan of Trump, but I also disliked Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama. Every presidential election seems to be a race to the bottom for the worst two possible people to potentially run the country. Politics was a relatively niche interest when I was a kid, and only since the Republican takeover in Congress in the 90's did politics seem to be on everyone's radar. It would likely be better for the country if fewer people payed attention. Then maybe Congress could do less playing to their base and more compromising to fix the serious issues that plague our nation. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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| 02-02-18 09:47pm - 2421 days | #21 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
There's a difference between "overwhelming negative coverage" and reporting false stories. One is editorial slant (which sells papers), and the other gets reporters fired. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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| 02-03-18 03:09am - 2421 days | #22 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
I am not really sure what side you are on, but to say "I stopped buying racism long ago" is quite literally one of the stupidest things I have read on the internet (trying to be respectful here, but come on, man). Racism exists, it exists in the United States aside from against Native Americans, and it has gotten worse under Trump. It isn't seperatism, it is straight up mother fucking racism. What do you call Nazis? You can bury your head in the sand and pretend it doesn't exist, but it most certainly does. Making fun of and insulting people is beneath the Presidency. Period. Judging women (and men) on looks is something everyone does, to do so in a professional capacity (particularly as the President) is not acceptable. You can think what you want, but you are wrong. Bragging about assaulting women, sneaking into locker rooms, etc. is similarly unacceptable. This isn't a political correctness thing, this is a "being a respectful human being thing", the least I think we should expect from the President is that he is a respectful human being. He's not. Also, per the original topic of his thread. Literally every President has had comedians make fun of them. That is life as the President, if you can't take it, get a different job (please). I think it is the responsibility of Americans to either engage in politics, or not vote. Respectfully, I hope you just didn't vote, because you seem terribly ill informed. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 02-03-18 05:29am - 2421 days | #23 | |
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Onyx (0)
In-Activated by Staff Posts: 149 Registered: Nov 28, '17 |
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| 02-03-18 02:38pm - 2420 days | #24 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
I don't follow the news like I used to. Part of the problem with politics in America right now is the people actually pay too much attention to whether their party is "winning" or "losing" in every political tussle. This makes it almost impossible for compromise. I think most people head to Washington DC with the sincere intention to do good by their country, state, and constituents. When they arrive, they find out that half or more of their time is given over to raising money for reelection, and that they have to be party stalwarts or face the prospect of their party backing some other candidate in the next primary. Politics has always been a dirty job. Alexander Hamilton was called the "son of a Caribbean whore" and Gerrymandering (representatives picking their voters, rather than the other way around) came about with Elbridge Gerry. It's just that we obsess about it more with 24/7 news coverage. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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| 02-06-18 04:58am - 2418 days | #25 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
I'll be back to this later tonight but have to say it caught me completely off-guard. Slutty, just to say that I know you get a little heated over political talk but really, you jumped to many conclusions. Like on the "not buying racism" part. Just to show what I mean. What has to be happening for someone to buy something? It has to be sold right? There's a theme there including Trump's way into the White House and how there's a common enemy known as the media. You know that some of your post goes into bullying? You assumed I don't know or understand politics or racism like you do and instead of educating or helping me understand, you chose to take personal shots at me? I'm not mad or upset. I just think a person should give a person time to reply to their questions they have instead of turning into a ball of judgment. That's out of character for you. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 02-08-18 12:09am - 2416 days | #26 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
As I started to reply to this, I noticed something. Did you really say it isn't separatism right after saying, "Not really sure what side you are on"?  What goes into engaging in politics? Talking about the same "issues" that were being talked about 25 years ago? No thanks. There's a reason those are still issues and a reason barely half of the country votes. We've all been there at some point and watched as every promise turns into a letdown, not always the president's fault but it's a failed government. If the government was a business it would be bankrupted, gutted and started over. But please don't insult fellow Americans by believing you know more about politics than others. This is what you showed: You completely avoided my point about the Trump detractors manipulating the video of Trump mocking a disabled man. You said in the previous post that I replied to, "Trump judges women purely on looks". Now you come back and say you agree that all people do that but Trump isn't a people. There's no room for compromise on that. I'm too far into psychology and old philosophy to believe a man's very nature can be changed just by a title, especially when that title is one that had represented liars, cheats and thieves. Which is why I respect him. He manipulated the media into getting him elected. He knew America is on an underdog kick so he constantly pointed out that he's not a politician and constantly pointed out Hillary's flaws as a politician. It was impressive how he used the media. That's a good trait for a president. Then you saw "racism" and came out charging with that one. Probably the easiest thing to defend these days. One of my cousins posted a post on Facebook that said, "You know America is messed up when white people are defending black people and us black people don't know why." My family has over 10 people from white, black, American Indian, Latino, Pacific Islander and mixed. I wasn't raised to acknowledge race. I don't care if an American doesn't like that. I have Italian ancestry and that part of my family lost its heritage when our last name was changed to an American last name. So, I continued being an American since that's what I am. Racism is sold to people who are not confident and secure in their true feelings towards other races. It gives them something to "defend" the other races with to make them look not racist. I have very little doubt that's how you are. If you want to prove that wrong give me 5 examples of racism in America. And no, Nazis don't count. They've been here since the 60s and outside of wearing funny looking swastikas and looking like they stepped out of a deodorant commercial, they have no ties to the Nazis who killed millions of Jewish people. Well, except that they're fear mongers and know how powerful the Nazi word is. Do you really think someone with "exotics4me" as a screenname really has a racial problem? Both of my great-grandfathers were in the military and one had 3 wives with 9 kids total and the other had 5 wives and 12 kids total. All of different races. It's probably where I get my interest in exotic women. I do think you should look over your post and see how much judgment you were passing. Not just towards me or Trump but at everyone who doesn't think like you. I'll go back to my previous post and say those politics are making you talk out of your character. I don't think you were the one I had the big disagreement with about gangs were you? I can't remember who that was but this kind of felt like that. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 02-08-18 02:25am - 2416 days | #27 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
I just typed a whole response to this and it disappeared. Oh well, but please read your responses and actually think about how condescending you sound? You are going to seriously call me out for my tone? I apologize for assuming that you didn't know anything about politics, but when one states they don't pay much attention to politics, what conclusion would you like my to infer? It makes you sound like Britney Spears, I have no opinion, but think you should respect the President. If you live in a country where you can't disagree with, or even disrespect the president, you don't live in a democracy. Firstly, I like how you apparently assume I am white, and that your multi ethnic family is somehow more valid than the experiences of anyone else. Secondly, I like how you use anecdotal evidence to support your claims about racism. High quality stuff. As far as racism goes, it isn't hard to find examples of racism in the United States. And certainly Nazis count. Nazis do not deserve the benefit of rebranding their message as separatists, they have a hate fueled message as such should be labelled as bigots and racists. To name a few: Racial profiling: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/25/us/ra...s-driving-black.html Not racist though, right, because minorities commit more crimes? This guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio I lived in Arizona for five years, if you don't think this festering pile of shit is a racist, you need your head examined. Why is marijuana a Schedule 1 drug? https://www.thecannabist.co/2017/07/25/marijuana-schedule-i-lawsuit-unconstitutional/84473/ Oh, that's not racist, it is certainly because marijuana is more dangerous than meth. Of course there's also the good old new era Jim Crow laws: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_suppression_in_the_United_States But, no that isn't racist, that is because election fraud is such a huge problem. I could go on and on, list all the race related crimes that have occurred since Trump took office, note the uptick in such crimes. He is dogwhistling them all that it is safe to come out of the woodwork and they most certainly are. If you want to bury your head in the sand and claim one shouldn't make fun of an obviously racist president who has no problem insulting and belittling those around them, that is fine. Finally, I never said Trump isn't people. I said everyone judges people by looks, but to do so in a professional capacity is not correct. If you think it is okay to say, "Well, she did a good job, but she's ugly" and not give her a raise. That is fine, I don't think that is okay. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. Edited on Feb 08, 2018, 02:39am | |
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| 02-08-18 10:00am - 2415 days | #28 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I think slutty was wrong when he insulted you because name calling should never be part of an intelligent debate and while I'm sure emotion was part of the reason. It's still not acceptable. That said your statements on racism then and subsequently are pretty frightening to read because they show a lack of understanding on a subject that every American(especially white people) should be knowledgeable. 1-Slavery isn't racism because slavery is: Any system in which principles of property law are applied to people. That's why you can have white people owning other white people as slave and there is obviously no racism involved. 2-Racism is: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior. You just have to look at the history of America to see that while African Americans were both salves and racially discriminated against. The Irish, the Polish, the Italians and I could go on were also racially discriminated against when they first cam to America. The difference between these groups and African Americans is that they were for the most part not slaves. The good news for you is that it's Black history month and you should be able to find multiple source that will enlighten you on what it really means to be a person with a darker skin color than white people in todays America. Now that doesn't mean that Native Americans or any other ethnic groups aren't also being racially discriminated against but to say that: "I stopped buying racism long ago. The only racism in America is towards our native people tends to make me think that you have to read a lot more about the subject. I'll finish by saying that it was very common for white slave owners to have sex and produce offspring with their Black slaves and at no point should we think that those owners were any less racist than those that never did. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 02-09-18 02:38am - 2415 days | #29 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
First Pat, I'm not white. The government claims it but it's far from true. I currently work in a HBC as an advisor. Seems they like that I bring a different perspective to the students than the white or black advisors. Of my history, only Irish is considered white. It's not even my dominant blood. I could be a Pacific Islander or Latino over white but the government still says white. That's the downside of working on the land of a government-funded university. Really Pat? Black History month? Do you also think American History is useful? Cause you know, if our country would allow it, they would put Black History in the damned American History books. That's part of separatism. You know the worst part? Most of Black History is about MLK and Rosa Parks. Nothing against Rosa, it's just that she was far from the first to do what she did. And MLK, well, he was a womanizer who cheated on his wife with no less than 4 other women and he also abused his wife, physically. No thanks on the continued brainwashing of America's youth. Was it you that I had the whole thing about Cinco De Mayo? That "Mexican" holiday that most Mexicans don't celebrate. We're a smoke and mirrors country. You should know that by now. I don't think we have more than 3-4 real holidays.I had to intervene yesterday between two military veterans who were arguing about the difference in Veteran's Day and Memorial Day. I wanted to take a picture and say, "What's wrong with this picture?" Slutty's pissed about something. He's stuttering around now and saying I'm telling him he can't make fun of Trump. That's Americans these days. A genius is born every second. The country is lost. They really believe if they say they're standing up for minorities that that in and of itself isn't racist. You know because only weak people need someone to stand up for them. I'm currently raising my two nephews who are half-black and it's kind of hard. So many phony people around, they'll tell me about this pretty girl and that pretty girl and then it'll be about their parents not allowing them to date other races and I'll see their parents out and they'll have a "fight racism" bracelet on. Always needing something to take pictures of and put on social media to show everyone they are good people. No offense taken, none meant but I have the definition of racism straight from the mouths of those who face it. I trust it more than another book. It's centered around repression, not allowing equal chances, breaking hope and spirit. And people claiming to defend them and they do as long as the camera is rolling. We're still the same ol' country that we always were. Except everyone wants to be on television and social media. It's a waste to try and reason with them. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 02-09-18 11:49pm - 2414 days | #30 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Let me apologize for getting worked up. I do have a bit of a bee in my bonnet lately, as I have a hard time understanding how people look at this administration and think it is business as usual. We have an arguably racist, certainly sexist, wannabe authoritarian, money laundering con man for a president and over a third of the country thinks it is great, since it makes liberals sad. Not because his policies help them, not because he is a good leader, simply because they beat the Democrats. On top of that, he seems horribly ill prepared for the job, lazy, and volatile. This is what is destroying our country, not political correctness or anything else. People are too lazy and easily manipulated. They go along with attacks on the press and 'fake news' not realizing that they are the ones listening to the fake news. I am continually shocked at how many people continue to claim Trump was some great businessman and developer, when he hasn't developed a property in years, just gets paid to have his name slapped on it. Regardless, I think it is incorrect to state that standing with a group of people (not for a group of people) is in itself racist. You have a very jaded view of most people's reasoning for doing things. Sure, there is some lazy activism out there, but I don't necessarily think that means the opinions are wrong. There are many that do things for the right reason, because it is the right thing to do. I don't think most would argue that the white folks standing with black folks during the civil rights movement were racist. I don't think anyone would argue the non-Jewish/non-minority people that volunteered to fight in WWII were racist. There are things that are unjust in this country, and it should not be the sole responsibility of the downtrodden to solve this problems. People that want to help are welcome to stand beside them, it doesn't make them bad people. I am not gay, yet I donate to HRC. I have attended equal rights marches. I don't put the sticker on my car, the only person that knows I donate to them is my GF, and now you bunch of perverts that don't know who I am. I don't even use Facebook because it is a frustrating laughable waste of time filled with morons reposting false information and kid/food photos. I have never heard any of my gay friends say they wish we weren't there standing with them, or call me some kind of homophobe. It is okay to stand up for things you believe in, even if it isn't a thing that directly effects you. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 02-13-18 03:00am - 2411 days | #31 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
No need for an apology, slutty. I've always thought the strength of PU is that we can disagree, rant at each other but no one gets too mad or stays mad. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 02-13-18 09:09am - 2411 days | #32 | |
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merc77 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 291 Registered: Apr 17, '16 |
The Republicans sow what they reap. I think the disrespect started long ago with President Obama. The "You lie!" comment shouted at him during his State of the Union speech has yet to be topped by any other disrespect. And that was by a Congressman! I think it should stop myself. I don't like President Trump one bit but think the Democrats or comedians should not sink to the level Republicans did during the Obama Administration. That said, we do have freedom of speech and it can be ugly at times. I served my country in the military to protect the people's right to say whatever the fuck they want to and to kneel instead of standing during the National Anthem. That's my two cents worth.  "Dogs think people are Gods. Cats don't as they know better." - Kedi (2016)Dogs have masters; Cats have staff. | |
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| 02-13-18 08:55pm - 2410 days | #33 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
Thank you merc77, and all other veterans, for your service to this country. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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