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| 03-18-10 12:43pm - 5393 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended  Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Site Facts Questions Hey guys, We're in the process of updating our Site Facts at TBP and wanted to get your feedback. If you would take a minute and comment on the following: 1. What facts would you like to see added? 2. What facts could you do without? 3. What current facts could be improved? I already have a lot of good ideas, but figured it was worth getting some user feedback also. Thanks for your input. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 03-18-10 12:50pm - 5393 days | #2 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Are you talking about the TBP review format? Cap'n. :0/ Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 03-18-10 12:59pm - 5393 days | #3 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Referring to the site facts at TBP, right above the review. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 03-18-10 01:14pm - 5393 days | #4 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
If you can improve on what's already listed, I'll be impressed. I can't think of one thing that should be added, deleted or changed. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 03-18-10 01:50pm - 5393 days | #5 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
As RB says, is very comprehensive. I think that is important for it to be that way, although I doubt all users will find all of it relevant for them. Different folk are going to find different data important. Cap'n. :0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 03-18-10 02:08pm - 5393 days | #6 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
x Edited on Apr 20, 2023, 01:25pm | |
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| 03-18-10 02:41pm - 5393 days | #7 | |||||||
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
At the very least, I knew I could count on some good feedback from WG! Responses below...
Yes to both. I'll probably move this from the review to the site facts. Reviewers will still test DL managers when testing speed. I'm working on a new section strictly for streaming video info that I think you'll find useful.
Yep, agreed. The Y/N items will be gone from both video/image sections. With regards to image size, we're going to be specifying image size based on total mega-pixels (width x height). So a image 2000x2000 would be 4MP. We'll based it on consistent max sizes, like u mentioned.
I also hate the "total" #'s. We'll stick to # of sets and pics per.
I'm thinking a separate "model" section that lists the total number of models and a little about the model index and listings. Like whether u can search by model, view thumbs, view bio, etc. Something beyond just yes or no.
This was on my list as well, we got an e-mail with this suggestion. We won't be able to provide too many details about a site search, but we can at least say whether there is one and the general options available. We'll have a simple checklist also of "other" useful content like blog, forum, etc. 3rd party feeds are tough because some are ok and others are worthless. I have to think about whether to include that.
Thanks for the feedback Witty!! The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |||||||
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| 03-18-10 03:40pm - 5393 days | #8 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Some sites have smaller "archived" image sizes, which get specified. Then "recently" they're larger (spec'd again). But what's "recently"? In the past month? In past six? It's too vague! Please say something more definitive such as "1000x2000 pics (50 most recent updates)." That would be swell! Thanks for asking, Rick! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 03-18-10 06:57pm - 5392 days | #9 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Good feedback, I'll try and re-enforce exact dates and numbers. Thanks Drooler. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 03-18-10 07:38pm - 5392 days | #10 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Hey Rick, Minor thing, and I don't know if you could necessarily always verify this, but I like to know if download managers work at a site. They work on most sites, however I have experienced a few with wierd security that prevented them. The site facts are quite useful, if you made some of the changes wittyguy suggested, they'd be great! Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 03-18-10 07:50pm - 5392 days | #11 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Do they have regional price discrimination? Real updates or just recycled/relabelled old stuff. Customer service - time to answer customer question/easy to cancel subscription. Easy search and navigation? Percentage of girls with tattoos/fake breasts - the reality percentage. Number of downloads allowed at one time. How many pros, how many amateurs, or new? Are the amateurs on a teen or amateur site genuine or just the same old pros trying to look innocent? How many genuine new girls? Edited on Mar 18, 2010, 07:59pm | |
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| 03-19-10 02:13am - 5392 days | #12 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
A nice, simple, searchable model index that has a thumbnail of each model is a really nice feature for softcore megasites. The bio is much less important, since most sites offer minimal info on the bios anyway. But the model thumbnail is really nice, especially with sites that use the same name for different models, or use different names for the same model. Or have a huge number of different models. | |
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| 03-19-10 08:26am - 5392 days | #13 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Agreed, we'll definitely add download manager info to the site facts. Thanks for your feedback. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 03-19-10 08:39am - 5392 days | #14 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Now that's a tough list! :) Real vs recycled updates... VERY tough for our site fact checkers and reviewers. Once in a while we will catch this, but we have to rely more on the users to point this out when found. Customer service... We will add a cancel link and support link to our site facts. Judging the quality of customer service will come later on. This is part of a long term plan, but not in the upcoming changes. Search/nav... We'll be adding simple info about whether a site has a search and what general variables are searchable. I'll leave the judgment of how easy/dynamic the UI is to the reviewers. Tattoos/Fake Breasts... Getting down to figuring out a % will be tough. Hopefully the site's tour/previews provide this info. We'll be adding previews again to our site down the road also. Simultaneous Downloads... I believe this is the same as number of streams available to a Download Manager. We do have this info in the reviews currently (not the site facts), and will be moving this to the site facts. Pros vs Amateurs... Might be able to have my guys give their best guess. I'll consider adding something, good suggestion. Thanks Squirrel for the challenge, appreciate your feedback. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 03-19-10 08:50am - 5392 days | #15 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Now we're at it - AGAIN: 'Regional pricing' (see the latest comments from a new user - SUKUMVIT - about Nubiles). Most sites still use CCBill - PRIMARILY - and CCBill+the site-owners have less understanding that europeans, asians ect. are fed up with higher prices in Euro and other currencies... In 80-90 % of the sites I try to join via TBP and CCBill at the higher euro-price, I find that, it's possible to locate those sites at Epoch - even if it's not possible direct via TBP/the site in question. You can go SHOP at Epoch and find MOST sites simply by SHOP/ADULT search AND get the same price as US-citizens. SO: What about a link for these good offers at TBP to Epoch? - even if you cannot join directly via the site... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Mar 19, 2010, 08:54am | |
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| 03-19-10 09:05am - 5392 days | #16 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Geo-Pricing will definitely be a larger focus soon. We'll soon be gathering screen caps of join pages as seen from both US and Europe. So as a european user, you'll be able to preview the join page (cost, etc) of most sites prior to even visiting the site. The Epoch loophole is obviously a way around it. For sites that have this, we'd rather try to deal with the site owner and offer the same price or rid the geo-pricing from our links somehow. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 03-19-10 11:01am - 5392 days | #17 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Yeah I realise my list was tough, but this is mainly due to TBP having everything needed pretty much covered, and in a way that is easy to understand. I agree with the others in that there is very little room for improvement. Natural photos or videos versus airbrushed blemishes and colour improved would be another thing. But it's really hard to analyse that, and is also a minor thing. | |
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| 03-19-10 02:28pm - 5392 days | #18 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 03-19-10 02:41pm - 5392 days | #19 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Maybe we'll try to illustrate both, but I've seen a lot of the big photo studios use MP to brag about the size of their images. For example: http://www.met-art.com/met-art_covers/JA...-7118.htm?PA=1813362 (advertises 10MP) However, in another mag cover they use pixels: http://www.met-art.com/c106/06196-Zoe-by...f-140.htm?PA=1813362 (3000 pixels) I assume 3,000 pixels represents the minimum height or width of each photo. Doesn't look like there's any clear standard. I'm leaning toward listing image dimensions and MP. MP is good because we can easily fit 4 characters (XXMP) in tight spots and/or make it easy to search sites with images above X MP for example. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 03-19-10 11:53pm - 5391 days | #20 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
You know when I looked at both those Met Art links it took me forever to even notice the text, and even then I kept getting distracted before I could finish reading it. ; ) But seriously I have to agree with WittyGuy on the megapixel thing; it's not exactly indicative of a particular picture size. If it suits the TBP staff, fine, but I think it's more a marketing gimmick for camera manufacturers and porn sites (talk about silent business partners). 10? 12? 69? 99MP? Who cares? I would much rather read actual dimensions as I usually try and put them in my reviews for both video and photos just so I am clear about what I mean when I say 'big' or 'large'. I think the current "Hi-Res Pics:" part of the site facts is just useless because it sounds so subjective. In video the term 'high definition' does have some objective meaning but for photos I think it's way too vague to be much of a fact. At least listing megapixel size will indicate whether pictures are actually all that big even if it's not clear exactly how big or what shape (photos could be square or very tall or very wide). You guys and gals already list the video dimensions so why not add photos too. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 03-20-10 12:22am - 5391 days | #21 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Well, Squirrel, as long as you're making difficult requests concerning percentages I'll add a few of my own: - Percentage of girls who are shaved, trimmed, or 'au naturel' (because we need to know, damn it!) - Percentage of girls with genital piercings - Percentage of girls with freckles, moles, or birth marks (models who only count in one of the categories, plus the ones who count in multiple categories) - Percentage of girls who are married (for the more serious customers only) - Percentage of girls who wear braces (should be pretty easy to count) - Percentage of girls who wear glasses - Percentage of girls who wear contacts - Percentage of girls who would pet a squirrel, scream and run like hell, or shoot it for 'sport' :-0 Okay that's enough for now... If any of the staff even thinks of taking any one of these seriously we should expect to see TBP to grind to a screeching halt in a matter of hours (with PU to follow shortly). Maybe the Census Bureau could help count things for the American sites but otherwise Rick, Khan, and everyone else will burn out and leave the 'net for good within the first week, tops! ; ) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 03-20-10 06:59am - 5391 days | #22 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
You are absolutely right. I was struggling to find a way they can improve. A lot of the things we hate - tats, fake breasts, the cookie cutter same old pro stuff, digitally enhanced pictures etc all have a certain look. We know what it looks like and most of us hate it. But trying to quantify it or sum it up quickly in a few words on TBP is close to impossible. So hopefully Rick will have it sorted in a week. Edited on Mar 20, 2010, 10:35am | |
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| 03-20-10 10:00am - 5391 days | #23 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
The feedback has provided the extra level of insight I was looking for. I think I've got a pretty solid basis moving forward. I don't have a firm ETA yet for these changes, but it will be a gradual release when it does launch much like the 2.0 reviews. I won't have the new set of facts final for another 10-14 days probably, so don't be shy to suggest anything else I may not have considered. Thanks for your input! The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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