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| 03-22-14 06:32pm - 3928 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User  Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
Bonnie Rotten as the new 'Squirtwoman' So I just read that Bonnie Rotten is going to be the next Elegant Angels 'Squirtwoman', following Jada Fire and Cytherea. What do you guys think of the choice? I know there are going to be a variety of reactions here, but I think it's awesome that they chose Bonnie Rotten. While the natural look is my favorite, I also love a woman with tattoos. I have actually thought for a while that it would be great if Bonnie did some peeing or squirting stuff, and now it is finally happening. Cytherea was a tough act to top, so we'll see how Bonnie does, but I think she'll bring something new and exciting to the role. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 03-23-14 09:19am - 3927 days | #2 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Let me say from the get go that I'm not opposed to a few tattoos on a woman but there comes a point where a woman can have so many that I can't enjoy her or her choice of positioning is such that it distracts from her overall beauty. Bonnie I my opinion has way too many tattoos from me to ever enjoy her. Now that I've said that then let's see if I can still be objective on the subject. Elegant Angel was sold last year which is usually not good news for a studio because it means that it was either losing money or was about to lose a lot of it. Not sure who bought them but all their top directors left the studio so it's all new blood working for them and that tends to mean subpar material coming out in the beginning. I suspect that you're a fan of squirting but that fetish is more or less dead as less and less people are interested in water sports porn. The fact that a well respected studio chose to resurrect a dead series after a 6 year hiatus doesn't bode well for their thinking. I know you are a fan of Bonnie and I know she has her fans but her choice of body art sort of means that she is far from natural looking and sadly the vast majority of fans prefer their models to look as natural as possible. I know she likes to shoot some extreme type of porn and that makes her more popular but I can't see how she can gather enough fans willing to both see her do porn and do water sport porn. I fear that this latest gimmick from Elegant Angel is just another sign that their days of glory are behind them and we shouldn't expect much in the months or years to come. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-23-14 02:32pm - 3927 days | #3 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
"Natural" and tattooed seem to be oxymoronic, LPee23, and sadly Bonnie is not even natural in terms of breasts (here's a page with both for comparison). She seems kind of polarizing because of the tattoos--you have to really love them because she has a ton, and they're not exactly subtle, but I guess spiderwebbed boobs rarely are.  She did do at least one early scene a couple years ago with Max Hardcore (post-prison) in the the elegantly titled Fuck Puppets 2, though I'm not sure if it's ever been released. Apparently they "did everything but fisting and anal," which sounds kind of restrained by Max's standards. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 03-23-14 05:15pm - 3927 days | #4 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^No it has never been released and since it's a couple of years old now than it likely never will. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-23-14 05:27pm - 3927 days | #5 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
So I definitely prefer the natural look because it's hard or often impossible to improve on it with surgery or procedures. If there are models who I'm really into, I consider it a travesty if they give up their natural breasts for implants or scrawl ink all over their bodies. So how is it that I still like Bonnie? The only thing that I like more than natural women is variety. I do want to see some totally tatted up ladies every now and then, and Bonnie does that well. If you are on the fence about enjoying tattooed women in the right context, check out CrazyBabe.com. Lots of their models are tatted up plus piercings with a very alt look. The settings are deliberately grungy, but they are photographed extremely well by Bob Coulter, producing very contrasty images full of highlights and shadows and popping with color. Total eye candy. Anyway, if you just look at the samples from that site, hopefully you might agree that tattoos can be good in the right context. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 03-23-14 05:37pm - 3927 days | #6 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
OK, so I just checked back in at CrazyBabe.com, and they just put some fucked up clown shit on their landing page. If you can get beyond the weirdness, there are lots of good solo shoots inside. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 03-23-14 07:11pm - 3927 days | #7 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
My understanding is that it has been leaked. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 03-24-14 07:00am - 3926 days | #8 | ||
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I was reading another adult forum where Bonnie participated but she refused to answer any questions regarding Max Hardcore, even whether she even did a scene with him. But she did do one and it might even have been her first adult scene ever, though why they had a falling out and she seems to have taken an oath of omertà is beyond me. Jealous of Max for getting to do a scene with her, minus all the sins he usually commits with his traumatized costars. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Mar 24, 2014, 08:19pm (turboshaft: Spelling.) | ||
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| 03-24-14 05:08pm - 3926 days | #9 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I have seen one gif showing Max at his old self holding Bonnies head during the BJ and she's vomiting all over his crotch and anyone can see screen caps of the scene but good luck finding the video itself. I believe that you could at one time but the powers that be have taken them down. I don't know why that scene was never released on Max's own site but I know it isn't. It was supposed to be part of a new Max movie called Fuck Puppet 2 but that never happened. I have my theory as to why but it's pure speculation so not worth mentioning. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-26-14 10:13am - 3924 days | #10 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
I realize that what you wrote is quite contradictory, but it's an opinion that I share. I can't explain it, but while I definitely prefer all natural, I like women who are heavily tattooed or openly tattooed. Bonnie Rotten, Krysta Kaos and Asphyxia Noir are among my favorite performers. | |
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| 03-29-14 12:57pm - 3921 days | #11 | |
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Divinx (0)
Active User Posts: 45 Registered: Dec 29, '07 |
If she only had natural tits...
For tattooists, there's Alira Astro. You get to see the tattooing session itself. | |
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| 03-29-14 06:40pm - 3921 days | #12 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I'm not a fan of tattoos but some models can still make it on my list of favorite if they have multiple tattoos but can think of with a huge amount of tattoos is Johanna Angel. I really like Asphyxia but I don't consider her to be a very tattooed girl. She has a couple of very visible ones one her face but few on her body. In no way can she be in the same list as Bonnie and Krysta who are very tattooed. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-30-14 04:04am - 3920 days | #13 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User  Posts: 585 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
 for the tats, totally don't get the attraction. Really wish tattoos had never been invented to be honest cause so many beautiful women in my opinion are much less attractive with them scrawled all over their perfect skin. That said American Porn Stars keep getting them so I guess they must have fans who like them. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 03-30-14 09:49am - 3920 days | #14 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^I see it differently because I don't think that many fans like them so much as they are now resigned to seeing them. I know many people will point to Bonnie in saying that Americans must love tattooed girls because if there was ever a poster child for popular tattooed girls than Bonnie would be her but the general consensus on other forum is that she is more the exception than the rule and a large part is because she doesn't mind shooting a nastier brand of porn than some fans simply love. I don't think that American porn performers are getting tattoos after joining porn so much as the amount of women willing to do porn is getting so small that producers are now reduced to hiring girls with tattoos or running out of new models. The problem with hiring girls with tattoos is that these girls seem destined to add more ink to their bodies and usually want to go bigger than smaller. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-31-14 12:33pm - 3919 days | #15 | |
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Parsnip (0)
Active User Posts: 39 Registered: Oct 29, '13 Location: Atlanta, Georgia |
Kind of inevitable given that most porn consumers seem to want such ugly, brutal material. There are a limited number of girls prepared to suffer several hours of excruciating pain and risk serious injury for $1000 or less. Given the poverty in eastern Europe there is more chance there, but over here you can pretty much forget it. Look at the old Andrew Blake movies - back in the '90s you could see the most beautiful girls in the world doing porn. Now the only qualification is a willingness to have your ass ripped apart while keeping a weak smile on your face. | |
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| 03-31-14 05:35pm - 3919 days | #16 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
I understand your reasoning, but I include Asphyxia because her tattoos are so visible. Karmen Karma has just been added to my list. I don't know how long she's been around, but I just saw her yesterday. | |
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| 03-31-14 05:36pm - 3919 days | #17 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^You may be right but I think it's more a question of the increase in std's and not just the curable kind but the incurable ones that has started to scare away many would be performers. It also really doesn't help that so many porn companies have gone out of business and all the others are looking to save money so there are less and less jobs for a large and larger pool of talent and producers are starting to ask the girls to work for smaller fees all the time. Welcome to porn in the era of tube and torrent sites. When less and less people pay for it then producers produce less and less porn. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-31-14 05:38pm - 3919 days | #18 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
That brings back memories. Porn was finally legal where I lived and the eroticism was amazing. Early gonzo was also well done too. with people like Joey Silvera. I really wish he's remaster and reoffer some of his early gonzo stuff. | |
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| 04-02-14 05:42pm - 3917 days | #19 | |
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Divinx (0)
Active User Posts: 45 Registered: Dec 29, '07 |
The number of those that can earn $1000 a day in a regular job is also limited, isn't it? So, unfortunately, there shall always be a supply of girls accepting to be treated as less than human disposable material; obviously, because it is the number of those that get off on the pain and disgrace of others that does not diminish. | |
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| 04-02-14 06:24pm - 3917 days | #20 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^Once upon a time you would have been correct that girls could make a 1000$ a day but this is no longer the case in todays porn industry. Many of them still get paid 1000$ or more for a b/g scene but producers are starting to offer less money for a scene. Since so many studios died in the last few years than there are less and less people hiring girls and that creates a sort of monopoly on employers. Even those studios that hire on a regular basis have either cut down on their total output or must cut their cost to make a profit so they have a vested interest in offering less money to the girls. It doesn't help that there is a huge talent pool of girls willing to do porn so that although it's getting rare to see a performer stay in the industry for a year. There is always a new girl willing to take her place and that means that you have a situation where multiple girls all needing money are fighting for the few available jobs. That's why a producer who just a few years ago would have had to pay a girl 1000$ for a standard b/g scene can now get away with paying her 800$ or less. He knows that the girl needs the money and if she won't do it than the next one will and fan appreciation is no longer a thing to worry about. I know that 800$ is a lot of money for one day of work for almost anyone but if this is the only job that this girl gets in the week than her weekly salary starts to look a lot like ours and now that testing is every two weeks and girls have to pay for it than that's about 200$ out of their pocket and let's not forget that she had to pay her agent fee of 10% to 20% on the scene. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 04-03-14 01:18pm - 3916 days | #21 | ||
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
There's certainly a limited number of jobs where a woman of similar age and educational level can earn even $800/day. It's what the moralists always forget: money will triumph over whatever qualms someone may have when they have bills to pay. And if they had a solution to the "problem" of porn beyond going to church and getting married they might have a point. Otherwise it's falling on deaf ears. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | ||
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| 04-03-14 01:34pm - 3916 days | #22 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I don't think Bonnie's tattoos are that universally loved; it's either accept 'em or leave 'em, because with that many they're hard to ignore. But again, spider-webbed nipples are not exactly what most tattooed American women have anyway. If anything she is the "trashy" stereotype that so many people would envision when they're criticizing tattoos--while of course making exceptions for the types of modifications they do to their bodies. And there's plenty of tattoo criticism here on PU, though it's considerably more nuanced that what's discussed elsewhere on the web. So much of which boils down to "I don't like tattoos...blah, blah, blah...so just do as I say already!" I for one might not accept all tattoos as equally attractive--I'm still on the fence about the girl with the butthole tat--but I'm not about to go around dictating what people are allowed to do their own bodies.  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 04-03-14 05:55pm - 3916 days | #23 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^The only reason I said that about Bonnie is because she keeps getting nominated for awards and I believe that she has won some as well. Now it's quite possible that her popularity is all fabricated by certain people within the porn industry and if that is the case than great because I would much prefer that then to think that she is a uber popular performer because of her body art. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 04-04-14 08:43am - 3915 days | #24 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I'd say Bonnie is popular for her look, or her amount of tattoos. I read somewhere that it somewhat limits her work opportunities because not every site or studio will shoot someone with that much ink, but like you said she's popular so I doubt it's a huge problem. But I see "glamour" as overrated anyway--I have a dirty mind and I don't want my porn ruined by some photographer who's so full of himself that he seriously thinks he's shooting nothing more than art. Of course give me only the look--say, like Suicide Girls--without much bite to back it up, I'm equally uninterested. A good performer isn't made by her tattoos, piercings, or total lack thereof; she has to earn it! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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