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04-22-12  08:05am - 4627 days Original Post - #1
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Opinions wanted !

Hi guys, a hidden I guess talent if you want to call it is I am a writer, I know many of you have read my postings and yes thank God for spell checkers. I remember reading one of my books to a lady 400 miles away and she masturbated while I read it to her, that was many years ago and got me into writing. These are never before publicly made. There would be possiblly a few erotic pictures in the book but not sure of that yet if I did it would be limited.

I digress, I am seriously thinking about making some erotic stories public. Mostly a collection of shorties perhaps one might read to their significant other. Why I am not Gay or Bi-sexual my stories range from all areas.

Anyways I decided as well to make them available for PC,Kindles and other ebooks since that seems where reading is going.

Question, is as porn users do you see this are something any of you would buy ? ( not advertising here just asking about interests) ( and would be very responsible since they are not paper books. ( talking few dollars max, unless it was a big collection )

Would appreciate any and all comments.

Thanks Since 2007 Edited on Apr 22, 2012, 08:08am

04-22-12  10:06am - 4627 days #2
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^Personally I don't think you would be very successful CT. There are too many free sex stories available out there. Since TBP is not interested in written porn I don't think I violate any rules if I say that between ASSTR, Literotica, Mind Control Stories and BDSM Library they have every imaginable subject covered ... and abundantly.

You could submit one or some of your stories to Literotica and see what readers have to say about your style, grammar etc. Literotica because there is a way to vote on a story, which would give you a pretty good indication if you should step out commercially or not. If the response is mainly positive .. try selling your eBook and good luck with your endeavor.

04-22-12  10:25am - 4627 days #3
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There used to be publishers of paperback hardcore erotic fiction, but there were mainly in the form of novels. But as far as I know, most of them went out of business.

Are there any paperback hardcore publishers still buying and selling today?

But the hardcore paperbacks of the past, like I said, were mainly in the form of novels, not short stories.

04-22-12  10:28am - 4627 days #4
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By the way, why do Canadians sometimes use the ^ thingy to start a written sentence?

04-22-12  11:41am - 4627 days #5
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


By the way, why do Canadians sometimes use the ^ thingy to start a written sentence?


In the case of that post, I think it's supposed to be an arrow, meaning that it refers to the post written directly above his post. More arrows means further up the post chain. Most people do it so they don't have to quote the last post and take up space.

04-22-12  11:45am - 4627 days #6
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I've personally never had a thing for erotic stories. I've bought, though, via my Kindle a couple porn related books, showing the vision of people inside the industry.

I see that Amazon Kindle has a big Erotica section. I'm not sure what kind of barriers to entry they set but it could be a route worth exploring. I read somewhere that authors, non-erotica ones, that hold digital rights for their short fiction sometimes put individual stories on sale apart from their collection. It's a way to get people to sample your work at a reduced price and entice them to buy the whole collection.

04-22-12  12:07pm - 4627 days #7
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I like reading them but mostly its a girl thing. So if you want to sell lots you have to have that in mind.

04-22-12  12:51pm - 4627 days #8
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


By the way, why do Canadians sometimes use the ^ thingy to start a written sentence?


I'm only imitating Pat. It points to the post above. Sometimes I find it better than quoting it in toto. It only works if there is not too much traffic though, otherwise you'll get everyone totally confused.

04-22-12  12:56pm - 4627 days #9
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Originally Posted by Thomas20:


I like reading them but mostly its a girl thing. So if you want to sell lots you have to have that in mind.


I would most strongly disagree, Thomas. I've always enjoyed erotic stories and find that most of the comments at Literotica, as one example, come from men. Women like their porn with a lot of romance thrown in and are more likely to find that in books rather than erotic stories web sites. But seeing that I am not a woman it's just possible that I read them wrong.

04-22-12  01:05pm - 4627 days #10
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Originally Posted by atrapat:


I've personally never had a thing for erotic stories. I've bought, though, via my Kindle a couple porn related books, showing the vision of people inside the industry.

I see that Amazon Kindle has a big Erotica section. I'm not sure what kind of barriers to entry they set but it could be a route worth exploring. I read somewhere that authors, non-erotica ones, that hold digital rights for their short fiction sometimes put individual stories on sale apart from their collection. It's a way to get people to sample your work at a reduced price and entice them to buy the whole collection.


Erotic stories were my first real exposure to porn, atrapat, forgetting about the nude pictures my class mates would pass around, and I have always found them highly stimulating. I remember with fondness Henry Miller, Pauline Reage (The Story Of O) among others, and still go to erotic story sites quite frequently when other porn gets tedious in its sameness.

There is nothing like your imagination, added to a well written story, to get you going. It is necessary to be an avid reader to start out with, though, otherwise you'll just "read" the words rather than see the story play out in your mind as a living thing.

04-22-12  01:12pm - 4627 days #11
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


There used to be publishers of paperback hardcore erotic fiction, but there were mainly in the form of novels. But as far as I know, most of them went out of business.

Are there any paperback hardcore publishers still buying and selling today?

But the hardcore paperbacks of the past, like I said, were mainly in the form of novels, not short stories.


Just a "by the way" lk2fireone. Many of the books can still be found on sites like Literotica (or is it ASSTR?). And now they are free! I recognize quite a few from my younger years when reading books was pretty well the only porn I could get my hands on in Canada. Unless you count "Playboy" as porn.

04-22-12  02:44pm - 4627 days #12
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Originally Posted by messmer:


It points to the post above. Sometimes I find it better than quoting it in toto.


As an aside ...

What you might also find works is to click the "Reply w/Quote" and then erase all but the part your post addresses. As long as you leave the start and end {QUOTE}{/QUOTE} (bracket type changed for display) then it should work

Whatever works for you ... just thought I'd mention it. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
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Edited on Apr 22, 2012, 02:48pm

04-22-12  04:06pm - 4627 days #13
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Originally Posted by Khan:


As an aside ...

What you might also find works is to click the "Reply w/Quote" and then erase all but the part your post addresses. As long as you leave the start and end {QUOTE}{/QUOTE} (bracket type changed for display) then it should work

Whatever works for you ... just thought I'd mention it.


Thanks, Khan. I've done that in the past as well and find both methods satisfactory depending on the contents of the post. Sometimes I just want to respond to a sentence that rings a bell with me, in that case I always use your method!

04-22-12  04:22pm - 4627 days #14
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Thanks, Khan. I've done that in the past as well and find both methods satisfactory depending on the contents of the post. Sometimes I just want to respond to a sentence that rings a bell with me, in that case I always use your method!


Lots of responses, appreciate it everyone. I read over the rules before I posted my request making sure I was not crossing the boundaries in asking about business ventures.

I have thought about using my old erotic site ( still own the name never sure if I should sell it or not lol 16 years now ) and publishing it there but so many cheaper ways like Amazon etc.

Anyways, I have heard giving some away for free is a good idea too so I will most likely post it for free and then see if interest goes from there.

I don't think the rules will allow me to share it even for free. But thank you for the responses.

CT Since 2007

04-22-12  07:18pm - 4627 days #15
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I don't think the rules will allow me to share it even for free. But thank you for the responses.
CT


I think you might be mistaken about that one, CT. Never having submitted a story to any of the sites I mentioned I am not sure what their rules are but I know that all the authors there are sharing their work for free and do it mostly for the gratification that comes from publishing their creation.

BTW, using one post because it's getting late in Atlantic Canada, thanks for your tip re. movie maker in the other thread.

04-22-12  08:11pm - 4627 days #16
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I think testing the waters isn't a bad idea, but I know there is a hell of a market for erotica. I recall a story on NPR (I think it was) about a person who was stealing erotic that was posted on the web for free, just copying it and then posting it for sale as an eBook on Amazon, and they were making money hand-over-fist.

If you've got a back-log of unique content, I say get it online. Too many people create art for years and then never get the nerve to show it to the public, let alone try to profit from it.

Best of luck and tell us your username name you are posting under so we can look it up! "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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04-23-12  05:54am - 4626 days #17
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I think you should test the water by making a couple of your stories available and asking for feedback. This way you will see if they are popular and that should give you a better idea on whether you can make money by releasing them as ebooks.

I know that there are many unknown writers making money by releasing their stories/books on Amazons ebook. There was a recent story about a young woman who's already releaed plenty of her books on Amazon and because they are only a few dollars then she's making a killing. People might not want to read an authors book if it's going to cost them 8 or more dollars but they'll gladly take a chance if it's only $2 to $3. Long live the Brown Coats.

04-25-12  09:51am - 4624 days #18
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CT, step back and take a deep breath, get out of your comfort zone, pick up the VidCam and remember, one porn movie is worth 10,000 words. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

04-25-12  05:58pm - 4624 days #19
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


CT, step back and take a deep breath, get out of your comfort zone, pick up the VidCam and remember, one porn movie is worth 10,000 words.


Well I am making a movie have been since last Fall, but is not porn.

Hey Khan if you happen to read this would it be ok to post a short stories on here, so I could get an idea what my fellow PU thought? Obviously following the PU guidelines too ! Since 2007

04-25-12  07:08pm - 4624 days #20
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Hey Khan if you happen to read this would it be ok to post a short stories on here, so I could get an idea what my fellow PU thought? Obviously following the PU guidelines too !


Hmmmmmm ... ok, A short story (as in one) will be ok but please don't cross into any kind of promotion or post any links.

I'd really not like it if I get put in the position of having to be the bad guy with this. But sure, one story, just to get opinions on your writing style, will be fine. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
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04-25-12  08:19pm - 4624 days #21
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Originally Posted by Khan:


Hmmmmmm ... ok, A short story (as in one) will be ok but please don't cross into any kind of promotion or post any links.

I'd really not like it if I get put in the position of having to be the bad guy with this. But sure, one story, just to get opinions on your writing style, will be fine.


A squeamish ok if I ever saw one! If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

04-25-12  10:17pm - 4623 days #22
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Originally Posted by Khan:


Hmmmmmm ... ok, A short story (as in one) will be ok but please don't cross into any kind of promotion or post any links.

I'd really not like it if I get put in the position of having to be the bad guy with this. But sure, one story, just to get opinions on your writing style, will be fine.


Right, as I mentioned abiding by the forum guidelines, appreciate the opportunity, and wouldn't take advantage of the generosity. And would not be promoting nor saying where to see it etc. Since 2007

04-27-12  04:06pm - 4622 days #23
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OK lol guess I got my feedback, on one on the story, guess should think about doing that as a venture.

Oh well ! Since 2007

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