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03-26-16  05:42am - 3100 days Original Post - #1
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With Google Cardboard cheap to get for anyone, Samsung handing out free Gear VR to pre orderers of their new phones and Oculus Rift on it's way to market, I'm surprised to see that the VR has not been discussed here yet. In every article about VR there is someone mentioning that it will or should be huge in porn in any case. In fact, there aren't even TBP or PU entries for the few VR porn sites out there I was able to find through other sites.

Has anyone any experience of the stuff or recommendations for good sites? It seems that BaDoinkVR is probably the most high profile one out there at the moment with NaughtyAmerica. However, I'm a bit reluctant to try either one given the mediocrity of the main site. BaDoinkVR stuff looks ok in the preview while NaughtyAmerica is as tame as anything they've produced.

03-26-16  08:32am - 3100 days #2
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The first month of Naughty America, with a PU discount, is $9.95. Recurs at $24.95/month.

So if that gets you access to the Naughty America VR site, that seems a cheap way to experience their site.

And the badoinkvr is also inexpensive. $19.95/month, with free VR goggles.

So if people want to try either site, it seems easy enough to do.

I know there were 3D sites out there as well.
I haven't kept up with any of those offerings, but I never heard a lot about the 3D sites becoming very popular.

But I will wait until I read about 3D and VR porn in the daily news, before I try either technology for porn.

I've only seen one 3D movie at the theaters in the last few years, and that movie gave me a headache. So I wasn't impressed by the technology.
I remember going to 3D back in the 1950s, when I was growing up. But after a few short years, back then, the 3D movies disappeared.

But maybe 3D and VR will be more popular in the coming years. And maybe they won't give me a headache if I watch one of their offerings.

But I'm not holding my breath, while I wait for 3D and VR to prove themselves.


PS: It's good to see you back. It seems like a few of the older members are starting to re-appear lately. I hope this trend continues.

03-27-16  02:33am - 3099 days #3
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3D movies and VR are different things. First off, 3D movies are not 3D, they are merely giving the illusion of depth. With VR on the other hand, you can actually move around and watch things from different angles. I had an oculus prototype for a couple of weeks and although this was just an early version with lower resolutions and a number of technical inacuracies, the experience was awesome.

VR will definitely have a huge impact on the digital world. The gaming industry is already waiting to jump the train. The problem is that VR is currently only available for smartphones like the mentioned google cardboard. Oculus release should be in april, HTC in may, Sony in october.

And of course it means that the companies have to invest quite an ammount of $$$ for new hardware in order to shoot the content.

03-27-16  07:35am - 3099 days #4
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The was a tv show about it over here in the UK not long ago and it did look like the whole virtual reality porn experience is very close to going popular and more mainstream. It showed a number of different future sex things like extremely realistic dolls that you can have sex with that talk, virtual worlds that you can have virtual sex (I know these have been around a while now though) and sex toys that someone else can control. Still think those type pf things though have a way to go going of what the program said about them. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE

03-27-16  08:29am - 3099 days #5
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Originally Posted by bibo:


3D movies and VR are different things. First off, 3D movies are not 3D, they are merely giving the illusion of depth. With VR on the other hand, you can actually move around and watch things from different angles. I had an oculus prototype for a couple of weeks and although this was just an early version with lower resolutions and a number of technical inacuracies, the experience was awesome.


The current VR video however is only shot with 180 (semi spehere) or full 360 sphere camera setup so there is no moving around, only looking around. Moving around freely is unfortunately impossible in video shot scenes but when the computers become powerful enough to render realistic human models in real time, I think we'll be there. Just to clarify that what's offered in video porn is in fact not what many consider VR even though I mixed the two in my first post :D

03-30-16  07:20am - 3096 days #6
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I can tell you that there has been a lot of talk about VR within the industry and I don't think this push is going to stop anytime soon. We have already begun internal discussions as to how to best address them on both TheBestPorn and RabbitsReviews.

For a major network, Naughty America jumped on quite early and they have a good track record of knowing what the future is in adult; they were one of the first to embrace streaming, HD video quality and later 4K.

A big factor will be the success of the newest commercial VR headsets, including the newest Occulus Rift, Microsoft's Gear VR headset and the upcoming Sony VR headset. They're being marketed for gaming and if they take hold then the sky is the limit.

The Playstation 2 was many people's first DVD player and led to a massive spike in DVD sales, particularly adult DVDs. The same is true for the PS3 and Blu-Rays, though to a lesser extent. If VR headsets prove to be a successful gaming accessory (dependent on VR's affordability, manageability and quality of games/applications created for it), there's no reason to think the success won't again transfer over to adult.

I think the key is it has to be successful there first, or else VR headsets become just a niche product, and VR porn already kind of exists at that level. It's a relatively small market of people willing to spend over $200 on a sex toy, however there is a much larger market of people willing to spend that on an entertainment device.

I don't know, personally. Though I have played around with an Occulus Rift and was excited for what it can do for games like Minecraft and Skyrim, I am still pretty ignorant to the technology. I don't know if I could become comfortable in a sexual sense while having both my hearing and vision completely hindered to my immediate surroundings.

03-30-16  03:28pm - 3095 days #7
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I have yet to try any VR technology in regards to video or computer games or any other medias but I did see a long presentation at last years E3 where they showed what the VR experience is like when playing Minecraft. I imagine it must be sort of similar with Skyrim. I can see where VR can in many ways enhance your gaming experience but am I wrong in thinking that it's mostly an improvement in how you view things within the game. Your actual interaction is still through a hand held controller.

I have seen VR headsets with a sort of interactive walking station where your leg movements translate to your in game character moving and that must add another element to the gameplay but that kind of technology is still probably quite expensive and therefore not going to be affordable to the general public but even if it does become affordable. I still can't see how a VR headset will in any major way improve your porn enjoyment. Using VR in a computer/video game is fine because everything is generated in real time but porn is a static environment. Unless I'm mistaken. You can only see what has been filmed so what more can you get from wearing a VR headset that you couldn't get by simply putting headphones on and watching a scene on your HD TV in the dark? Long live the Brown Coats.

03-30-16  04:20pm - 3095 days #8
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In addition to VR, there can be other technologies.
I remember there was a Smell-O-Rama in the movie theater.
Don't know how long that lasted, or how good it was.
Also, I seem to remember there was at least one movie where they made the audience seats shake when the movie called for violent action (like an earthquake or volcano erupting or whatever).

So I'm looking forward to the day when I can touch and feel and smell the porn starlets right in the comfort of my own home.

Maybe not the smell so much, if it's a squirting video.

03-31-16  09:53pm - 3094 days #9
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I had a chance to try the Oculus Rift developer model at an expo a while back. It was very immersive but at least the early model had low pixel density that made it very hard to focus on details. There was also the so called screen door effect that made you painfully clearly see the spaces between the pixels, almost as if using a magnifying glass. They say that the final consumer model should be much better in that aspect but I must see in person before parting with 600-800 euros.

04-10-16  07:53am - 3085 days #10
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I am a VR porn user so let me give my view of this. First the way I got into it was with the launch of the new Samsung S7 phone and I got a free headset with it and after some browsing I found VR porn. It took some technical fiddling before I got it to work but now it runs smoothly.

So is it good? Well after using it now for well over 3 weeks I can without a doubt said that I firmly believe VR porn is the future. This technology has so much potential that it will move the boundaries of porn when headsets become mainstream.

Personal I can't go back to regular porn - I just can't because the experience is so strong and that's even though the niches I go for have not yet made it to VR.

The first time I played a porn video on my headset I was blown away because it literally felt like I was there. It was a POV scene from a mans perspective and it was made so I actually felt so that the man's body was mine and the woman that was there was talking to me, looking at me and I was about to have sex with her.

It was so convincing that I was almost as excited as the first time I had sex. I couldn't believe how strong this experience was.

And that's the power of VR - it brings a level of immersion that regular porn just never do or come close.

But it also changes the game I have realized after my few weeks with it and you can slowly see that in the movies that are being released - the regular porn formula just doesn't work in VR anymore.

Why? Well I am a frequent user at another forum for VR porn and here sites like NA, VRP, BADOINK and so on announce their releases and people react to them and it is clear that consumers want something else from VR porn than regular porn.

Instead of just hardcore action the want the GFE. They want intimacy, closeups of the actress face, kissing, eye contact, "connection" with the actress, cuddling and so on. The "action" becomes almost a secondary thing in VR porn.

Personally the most exciting thing for me in VR have been in those POV scenes where the actress does cowgirl and she bend forward and her face feels like it's right there above you - like only a few inches away. It's almost like you can feel her breathe on your face and your eyes "meet" and you actually try to suppress the desire to kiss her because you know in your mind she actually isn't there. It is beyond words to be frank and something you of course can't do with regular porn and something you need to experience if you haven't yet.

Anyway currently most VR porn out there is just straight up regular sex with young girls, some threesomes, some foursomes, girl stripping and masturbating and quite a few lesbian scenes. There is a bit of transsexual but it is VERY limited.

So that's currently the biggest issue with VR: it needs much more content and I can't wait till VR starts to explorer other niches because right now what the future holds is anyone's guess.

But when you "do" watch VR porn regularly like me, you realize that VR porn has so many opportunities for different fetishes and niches that can be taken to a completely new level regular porn can't beat with: Take for example:

- foot fetishes: With VR you can literally have the feet in your face if that's what your are into.

- giantism: A few scenes already exist where the woman is more than twice as big as normal. I am not into this fetish but I have watched some of them and it just works. It actually does, Your mind believes it. So this fetish is just made for VR porn because you can make the woman as big as you want. I can't wait to see what the future holds here.

- Facesitting: Now it can be "almost" real as VR brings this to a new level. Now longer are you forced to watch the woman facesit a random male actor as she through can VR facesit on you. I have tried a few videos out there where the woman's private part was very close to the camera and I found myself wanting to stretch out my tongue and try to lick it.

- Peeping tom: With VR you can actually be placed behind the curtain and watch other people having sex if you like that.

- Smoking: It will literally feel like you get the smoke blown in your face if you are into that.

- Being watched: In VR you can be places in a POV scene in the male's body and having sex with a actress while there are people around you in the scene watching.

- Sex with Jessica Rabbit or any cartoon characters: Could be made real with VR porn.

And the list goes on. There are so many opportunities with VR that can be made "real" with VR that wasn't possible before.

So what's the downside you properly wonder:
Well currently the prices as others mentioned already. It is quite expensive for the headsets right now unless you already have a compatible Samsung phone and you can get the GEAR VR (around 99 dollars) but I imagine that as the competition rises the prices will drop fairly quickly but who knows.

The resolution still lacks something to be desired. Right now anything longer away than a few meters becomes "undetailed" and longer away it gets worse. But it is early days and hopefully with the next generation the resolution gets a bum up.

It is a bit difficult to get to work for the average Jane or Joe. I am personal OK technical minded and even for me it took some time and trials to get it running and that needs to be addressed soon so it won't become a obstetrical for potential users that give up because of it.

Lack of content is a major problem right now. It is simple so new that not many players are in this yet. And that means that unless you are into what I mentioned earlier you are out of luck as it is now. There is barely any MILF/mature content, next to no taboo if any, next to no transsexual accept a few, no quality or real JOI, and the list goes on. As mention before: We need much more content.

My two cents! Edited on Apr 10, 2016, 10:21am

04-11-16  12:51pm - 3083 days #11
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I have been watching VR news and info for about a decade when the Japanese were testing large very large head sets.

I have read a few hundred articles on this as well and came to these conclusions.

VR, will eventually allow a person to feel like they are having sex, a BJ etc. Ia m sure with external devices that are already in the works will physically and mentally simulate sex and responses from the character.

There is a problem however with this Toad and VR, I think its too much. There is reality and then there is VR. And why the limit is endless it makes one wonder if VR is good for you?
During porn watching and masturbation Endorphins are released in high amounts so much so that too much masterbation and one can become numb to it. Sex addicts have it worse and can literely end up not feeling love or passion at all. There are studies that show VR to be equivalent in one session to having sex for 12 hours. Its not just watching porn, VR is putting you right in place with every sensory input on max something even jerking it for 2 hours wont do . But I digress VR will be amazing technological win for the tech world, it will take video games to a whole new level, image actually playing in the world series, or superbowl, or play gold with tiger woods. But when it comes to sex, real VR sex maybe its just me, but taking 100% of the intimacy out of sex has never been done, ever, even getting a hooker is not the same.
Porn stars interviewed themselvs about VR, have said it will be very odd for them, when a person could in affect rape them, yet they are not. It didnt stop these stars from filiming but even porn stars have raised and eyebrown and of course cashed the checks.
There is a concern that maybe this was an area we should not have gone into. Don't get me wrong, I can imagine my fantasy of Madison Ivy, but the fantasy alone serves a huge purpose for most porn viewers, with that gone what are we left with but no intimacy and 100% sexual response and stimuli. I am concerned, and why I have priced head sets I may not do it just because it crosses a line with no return, even as was mentioned above porn will never be the same. Maybe there is something there we should consider ?? Since 2007

04-12-16  03:34am - 3083 days #12
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I have been watching VR news and info for about a decade when the Japanese were testing large very large head sets.

I have read a few hundred articles on this as well and came to these conclusions.

VR, will eventually allow a person to feel like they are having sex, a BJ etc. Ia m sure with external devices that are already in the works will physically and mentally simulate sex and responses from the character.

There is a problem however with this Toad and VR, I think its too much. There is reality and then there is VR. And why the limit is endless it makes one wonder if VR is good for you?
During porn watching and masturbation Endorphins are released in high amounts so much so that too much masterbation and one can become numb to it. Sex addicts have it worse and can literely end up not feeling love or passion at all. There are studies that show VR to be equivalent in one session to having sex for 12 hours. Its not just watching porn, VR is putting you right in place with every sensory input on max something even jerking it for 2 hours wont do . But I digress VR will be amazing technological win for the tech world, it will take video games to a whole new level, image actually playing in the world series, or superbowl, or play gold with tiger woods. But when it comes to sex, real VR sex maybe its just me, but taking 100% of the intimacy out of sex has never been done, ever, even getting a hooker is not the same.
Porn stars interviewed themselvs about VR, have said it will be very odd for them, when a person could in affect rape them, yet they are not. It didnt stop these stars from filiming but even porn stars have raised and eyebrown and of course cashed the checks.
There is a concern that maybe this was an area we should not have gone into. Don't get me wrong, I can imagine my fantasy of Madison Ivy, but the fantasy alone serves a huge purpose for most porn viewers, with that gone what are we left with but no intimacy and 100% sexual response and stimuli. I am concerned, and why I have priced head sets I may not do it just because it crosses a line with no return, even as was mentioned above porn will never be the same. Maybe there is something there we should consider ??


Not absolutely sure I understand your post completely but it's it just the more or less same old discussion that happens when new technology becomes available in the past?

I feel we have been there before with discussing all the negative consequences porn in any form could have. We had it with the release of porn picture, then it was film, then it was the internet, then sex toys, sex dolls, strip clubs and so on. Always it seem to entail from some people a new discussion about a downright spiral into the fall of society in any form.

And pornstars are afraid that viewers are "raping" them in VR and yet viewers are not? Come on! Anyone with a imagination could "rape" anyone without VR. We don't need any technology to do that.

I could understand the concern if there was a big request for actually rape scenes in VR but there is not (not yet anyway)

I participate on another forum where VR porn is discussed heavily and official releases are announced by the producers of porn (NA, virtualrealityporn, hologirls, badoink and so on) and oddly enough the most requested are not abuse scenes, humiliation scenes, degrading scenes and so on. It is not even hardcore specific scenes that gets requested. No the actually number one request is closeups of the faces of the actresses to give intimacy or the GFE experience.

Yes VR viewers ask for closeups, kissing, tenderness, eye contact and so on.

I think it is mind blowing that people that actually watch VR and do it regularly move away from the hardcore requests and ask for the above in the vast majority. Don't get me wrong the other stuff is there but it is just not in high request.

And I am honestly quite surprised by myself as I find myself looking more for intimacy, kissing, eye contect and so on for VR while with regular porn I was much more into hardcore sex. In fact I rarely look at the action in VR scenes and more on the actress face and many others report the exact same. They and I want to "connect" with the actress.

And hereI can understand your concerns for VR in the sense that instead of connecting with people in the real world we connect with a "dream" in VR. Instead of having a real life GF/BF we have enough in our perfect VR partner because she/he is tailored perfectly to you. That is a very really possibility I think might have to be address in the future somehow because it might lead to a disconnection from real people.

But again it is early days. It might shift again to something else as VR becomes more mainstream.

04-12-16  08:52am - 3083 days #13
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Originally Posted by lazebra:



Yes VR viewers ask for closeups, kissing, tenderness, eye contact and so on.



It seems you are referring to glamcore/heartcore porn.
I'm not really sure if there is a difference between the two terms: glamore versus heartcore.
Since I'm not writing a college dissertation, I usually use the two terms interchangeably.

But I think of glamcore and heartcore porn as "soft" porn, with a romantic feeling.
So GFE (Girl Friend Experience) is just another variation of glamcore/heartcore.

Except that GFE adds the element of the girl being a call girl, and the guy paying for the service.
Which some people could say means a completely different experience or legality than two people having sex for romance.

04-12-16  08:53am - 3083 days #14
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Originally Posted by lazebra:


Not absolutely sure I understand your post completely but it's it just the more or less same old discussion that happens when new technology becomes available in the past?

I feel we have been there before with discussing all the negative consequences porn in any form could have. We had it with the release of porn picture, then it was film, then it was the internet, then sex toys, sex dolls, strip clubs and so on. Always it seem to entail from some people a new discussion about a downright spiral into the fall of society in any form.

And pornstars are afraid that viewers are "raping" them in VR and yet viewers are not? Come on! Anyone with a imagination could "rape" anyone without VR. We don't need any technology to do that.

I could understand the concern if there was a big request for actually rape scenes in VR but there is not (not yet anyway)

I participate on another forum where VR porn is discussed heavily and official releases are announced by the producers of porn (NA, virtualrealityporn, hologirls, badoink and so on) and oddly enough the most requested are not abuse scenes, humiliation scenes, degrading scenes and so on. It is not even hardcore specific scenes that gets requested. No the actually number one request is closeups of the faces of the actresses to give intimacy or the GFE experience.

Yes VR viewers ask for closeups, kissing, tenderness, eye contact and so on.

I think it is mind blowing that people that actually watch VR and do it regularly move away from the hardcore requests and ask for the above in the vast majority. Don't get me wrong the other stuff is there but it is just not in high request.

And I am honestly quite surprised by myself as I find myself looking more for intimacy, kissing, eye contect and so on for VR while with regular porn I was much more into hardcore sex. In fact I rarely look at the action in VR scenes and more on the actress face and many others report the exact same. They and I want to "connect" with the actress.

And hereI can understand your concerns for VR in the sense that instead of connecting with people in the real world we connect with a "dream" in VR. Instead of having a real life GF/BF we have enough in our perfect VR partner because she/he is tailored perfectly to you. That is a very really possibility I think might have to be address in the future somehow because it might lead to a disconnection from real people.

But again it is early days. It might shift again to something else as VR becomes more mainstream.


I guess to help clarify it very short and blunt.
Humans are not wired for this its not in our DNA, and my opinion goes way beyond anything normal or healthy for the mind and soul. I have been around long enough to see Playboy hit the stands and get pics via BBS lines and everything since then, so I disagree its just a new fad it goes to far in my opinion. Even the stars themselves are asking is its too far. This is not just technology it is a life changing technology. My opinion is VR will change porn 10x greater then the PC did. I know I know I can here all the porn dogs giving the other side of it and I do not disagree it will be amazing. I just wonder just because one can engage in VR should they and there will be no turning back. I see VR turning porn viewers more easily into addicts. When it can feel so real and close the jump to absorb into it is pretty easy. Video games did similar as well as Smart Phones and now people are absorbed into their games and phones and do not even no where reality stops.
The question bares asking how will we know where VR stops and we begin ? And by the time we figure it out it may be too late. Since 2007

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Cybertoad writes: "I think its too much. There is reality and then there is VR. And why the limit is endless it makes one wonder if VR is good for you?'


I don't have any personal experience with VR, porn or otherwise.

But I think I agree with lazebra:

"I feel we have been there before with discussing all the negative consequences porn in any form could have. We had it with the release of porn picture, then it was film, then it was the internet, then sex toys, sex dolls, strip clubs and so on. Always it seem to entail from some people a new discussion about a downright spiral into the fall of society in any form."


With the introduction of any new technology, there are always people saying there are consequences that are harmful:
The industrial revolution, introduction of photography, motion pictures, the computer.

So will VR porn spell the end of civilization? Of the human race, because people will no longer fuck and create new children?
Probably not.

Sex is here to stay. At least for the forseable future. And VR porn, unless it's made illegal, will be coming to your local porn shop (except that I believe the porn shop went the way of the dinosaur when the internet came along).

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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I guess to help clarify it very short and blunt.
Humans are not wired for this its not in our DNA, and my opinion goes way beyond anything normal or healthy for the mind and soul. I have been around long enough to see Playboy hit the stands and get pics via BBS lines and everything since then, so I disagree its just a new fad it goes to far in my opinion. Even the stars themselves are asking is its too far. This is not just technology it is a life changing technology. My opinion is VR will change porn 10x greater then the PC did. I know I know I can here all the porn dogs giving the other side of it and I do not disagree it will be amazing. I just wonder just because one can engage in VR should they and there will be no turning back. I see VR turning porn viewers more easily into addicts. When it can feel so real and close the jump to absorb into it is pretty easy. Video games did similar as well as Smart Phones and now people are absorbed into their games and phones and do not even no where reality stops.
The question bares asking how will we know where VR stops and we begin ? And by the time we figure it out it may be too late.


I can't rightly answer your questions from a broader perspective because that I don't know and I don't yet think there are enough studies that enlightens these issues thoroughly. So it is all speculation.

So I can only answer from my own perspective really and so far I actually had a drop in my porn usage for example after I started with the VR porn scene.

I don't spend nearly as long as I did with regular porn because I get much more immersed in this experience than with regular porn where I jumped from scene to scene.

I don't feel addicted to it at all. I just have other preferences with this type of porn than with regular porn.

I want intimacy in VR porn and in that I assume you are right that it's because it feels "real" to my mind and it can't tell the difference and therefore it is difficult/impossible to just objectify the actress as a just a prop for my own sexual gratification.

So instead I want to connect with her on a deeper level during the scene. But the question is then if it goes deeper than that and for me I don't think so. I have no problem "disconnecting" after the deed is done so to speak because after all I do it for my own sexual gratification and not for a emotional bond. Just like with regular porn. It is just seeking a higher pleasure.

But I can imagine that some won't be able to make that distinction and it will change there life living in a "non" existing reality where they connect with "programs" that don't disagrees with them, that don't have their own agendas and caters to their every need. But we also see that already with sex dolls. Do a search and see some of the documentaries about men that live in "relationships" with dolls. They have always been there and they will always be here.

It doesn't mean I neglect the issues because of course for those people VR means they loose even more the ability to connect with normal people. The question is however if VR will mean a increase in these types of issues. I don't know but I doubt it.

And we also have to remember that VR also brings some actual benefits where it is the other way around. I read for example in a news paper that doctors and psychiatrists said that VR was proven to be the perfect tool to deal with certain anxieties, phobias and depressions. It gave the patients a "risk free" environment to deal with their issues and then in the real world it was far easier to overcome those issues and interact with real humans.

But I guess we have to wait and see how it goes. I personally don't think it will end as bad. I think it will be a entertainment device - for the foreseeable at least. After that your guess is as good as mind.

In the end I actually think that humans and machine will melt together anyway. And maybe this is just a small step in that direction. Edited on Apr 12, 2016, 09:41am

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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Cybertoad writes:
"I feel we have been there before with discussing all the negative consequences porn in any form could have. We had it with the release of porn picture, then it was film, then it was the internet, then sex toys, sex dolls, strip clubs and so on. Always it seem to entail from some people a new discussion about a downright spiral into the fall of society in any form."

Sex is here to stay. At least for the forseable future. And VR porn, unless it's made illegal, will be coming to your local porn shop (except that I believe the porn shop went the way of the dinosaur when the internet came along).


I think conversations like these are important after all marijuana is now legal and gay marriage because people discussed and talked. I do not think at all we have been here before there is nothing that ever took the leap VR will and does. Lazebra, I like your perspective seems like you have it dialed it for healthy use I apologies if you thought I was directing the intimacy issue at you, but thanks for answering it.

lk2fireone, maybe you can help me out, I can't see any leap to give the impression we have been here before ?
Movies, internet all never did what VR does.
In fact I can't fathom anything past VR, other then sex robots. It just appears that VR, true interactive VR will be big very big, there are addictive minds that do not sit well with porn they jerk night and day and have no social life those are the people that with VR could get lost.
Even worse then they are now, this is not a morality thing its a we better be honest with what this is.
Not to mention I never looked at porn as cheating, but VR also may for some cross that moral boundary but thats another topic. I for one probably wont ever try VR, I think it for me crosses a line of entertainment that porn is now and gets it into a weird area for me. Since 2007

04-16-16  02:39pm - 3078 days #18
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My take: I don't think the content is quite there yet, but it's developing and very promising. I think the studios are still working out what kinds of experiences people want, what works well. I've checked out (paid memberships) BadoinkVR, Naughty America, VirtualRealPorn, VirtualPorn360, and HoloGirls. I'm using a decent Cardboard viewer (FreeFly VR with a Nexus 5), and have no idea what Oculus or Vive are like. Or even Gear. So all of this applies mainly to Cardboard; not sure what advantages the other platforms might bring to this.

For my taste, hardly any of the content was actually very "good". What I mean is that while it is a very immersive experience, so far most (not all) of the performers have been women I'm just not that into, or the scenes just didn't do it for me in whatever way. That's incredibly subjective, I only mention it because I think it keeps me from getting a better idea of the potential. I think that will change as variety increases. Also, I think we're still figuring out things like... if the POV is further from the model, you get a more believable, immersive experience. If the POV is up close, where a lot of the times we probably want it to be, then there's a lot of edge distortion etc that takes away from the immersion. So you end up with scenes where the climax shot seems very distant, but realistic, whereas if we got a little closer it might start to break the illusion of being there. Being able to zoom would be awesome - it's easy to imagine future implementations where zoom level can be controlled by eye movement (focus on one spot for long enough and it zooms, something like that). Higher resolutions will also help, so the higher end platforms probably have an advantage here.

That being said, the few that I thought were really good scenes were pretty intense. There was one on Naughty America with Jillian Janson. It was pretty good, but not really blowing my mind... but what really killed me was when she would bring her face close to the camera - the combination of immersion, audio, and the sort of surprise of having her all up in my face kind of brought it to another level. I think if this kind of experience can be further developed... I mean then we're basically talking about simulated sex. As in, it's less like watching a scene, and more like losing yourself and feeling like you're having sex with the performer. So, for my picky ass, that will start to get more compelling when my favorite girls start doing scenes like this (Adrianna Luna, you reading this???).

The other interesting approach is non-POV, where you're essentially an observer. There's a cool/odd Japanese one where you're in a house with different couples/groups who are having sex. It's quite cool to pan around and see what everyone's up to, but it's much more of a voyeuristic experience; you don't feel like you're doing any of the deeds, just like you're in the house watching them. Not all that compelling to me, but interesting nonetheless.

04-16-16  02:44pm - 3078 days #19
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Also: VirtualRealPorn and VirtualPorn360 both seem to have been more experimental in their approach. Where NA only has POV, and it's largely pretty similar, these 2 have been trying out different approaches. There are some scenes that are not POV, and which have a lot of camera movement and zooming, in addition to head tracking. These pretty much just make me want to puke. That is probably a dead end...

Another thing they've experimented a lot with is different points of view. So for example, shooting the scene from the woman's POV. While this could obviously create a great experience for women who watch ("watch" seems like a word that is almost not going to apply, as these experiences get more immersive), it also opens the possibility of experiencing (simulated) sex from a POV the viewer is not capable of seeing IRL. So, i think for some people (not so much myself), this could be a really cool experience. Like Holy crap I'm the woman!!! Weird!

04-16-16  03:03pm - 3078 days #20
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OH. ALSO. Haptics/interactive devices, and motion capture. These things will almost definitely push VR porn to the next level.

Devices like VStroker and Kiroo. If you don't know what I'm talking about, think Fleshlight but with motors, synchronized to the video. There are two approaches: one where the device follows what's on screen, and you are essentially at the mercy of the performer. The other is where the device reads your movements, and alters the video stream accordingly (e.g. you go faster, the video goes faster). It should be pretty obvious how this kind of tech could integrate with VR.

Motion capture: this is something where I know the higher end platforms have an advantage. Think of a first person shooter where you are physically holding a gun/controller IRL. You control the game gun by physically aiming the controller, and the Oculus (etc) maps that to the game. Now think of a POV sex experience, where the system is aware of your body, and maps on-screen movement to that. This is probably a long way off, especially in terms of mapping to actual video, as opposed to 3d models. But it seems like an obvious next step.

I think once these two things are solidly in place, we're going to have to come up with a new word for people who do NOTHING but VR porn, all day every day :D

04-21-16  04:24am - 3074 days #21
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I am a big fan of vr porn. I tried lot of websites (not as much at the end but pratically all the new ones)
As you say VirtualPorn360 always make the first step. I like this website mostly for the interactive videos, you can pick the girl you want but also choose the position. It's what we need to be happy
I am new here, I try to find my way as I can, also if you have some advices :D
Thanks guys!

04-21-16  08:17am - 3074 days #22
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So what are people using other then smartphone apps and boxes ? i am not liking the whole smart phone idea with this mostly because there are limitation on focus and size management.
Is there PC adaptations ? Since 2007

05-05-16  02:46am - 3060 days #23
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Now that I'm a little wiser in this subject, I might comment again: Having tried some stuff with Samsung VR, I have to concur that it's just not here yet. Oculus Rift might change things but on mobile phone based system the resolution is way too low and the pixel screen effect makes everything blurry and impossible to focus on. Also, it's a hassle moving 3-5 gigabyte files back and forth into your phone unless you have some huge memory card with no other use for.

Some of it is very impressive but often it's hard to focus on things at different depths. If you tilt your head sideways, the right and left go out of sync and you see ghosts. The stuff released is also understandably quite limited, mostly POV. Some 360 degree videos are cool when there are others around you in the scene and you can look around.

In my opinion it'd take real time rendered scenes to really make this work. I just don't think there'll be any producers professional enough and willing to put enough money into it to make it look real enough. And then there's the processing power it'd take to render on your Rift...

05-09-16  05:58pm - 3055 days #24
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Dude seriously VR sex is out? That's heavenly اكبر احدث موقع مشاهدة افلام سيكس عربي واجنبي

05-09-16  07:13pm - 3055 days #25
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I have tried out some stuff also with the Gear VR. I have to concur that it has some work to go yet. Some of these things might be much better if using a higher quality headset for PC like the Rift.

The resolution is much too low, if the performers are even a few steps away from the camera you lose a lot of image quality. Oculus Rift videos are higher resolution but I do not feel that it is enough to significantly reduce this.

It visuals are also not quite right, it feels like you are halfway to being there but it is not the complete package yet. Again the greater power to render the 3D effects from the PC may help here, have to remember we are running this off a phone after all, not a £1,000 PC.

However despite these issues there is no denying the fact that VR porn is a completely different experience to what we have had before. This is new technology and it will take time and money to get it right.

I would recommend at the very least anyone who has a compatible Samsung phone to pick up a gear VR as they are pretty cheap and try it for themselves as until you try it you cannot really comprehend the experience that you get from it just by people talking about it.

I do believe this is the direction that porn will be going towards in the future big time. 4k videos are the other big thing at the moment and while they are nice they are not game changers like VR is. 4k is more like the evolution of what we have while VR is revolutionising the industry.

05-20-16  04:48am - 3045 days #26
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Just popping in to let you all know we have some VR porn site listings on TBP if you want to give 'em a try!
And then you can write up a review for PU!

https://www.thebestporn.com/categories_niches/virtual_reality_porn/

05-25-16  07:43am - 3040 days #27
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I assume the dream with VR would be to film various possible outcomes based upon what a user does. Not just when we're talking porn, but also video games with AI opponents and even possibly for movies or television shows down the line. After all, the ability to interact within a virtual reality world is really what would make it more than merely a glorified 3D experience.

Have you ever checked out the site Life Selector? It is kind of a choose-your-own-adventure porn site. You have choices to make at certain points in a scene and then whatever you choose affects what happens next. Clearly, it's a bit less complicated than what would be required to create a similarly interactive VR experience, but the concept is there to be expanded upon.

Nevertheless, I feel like it still might end up being nothing but a fad. There was a lot of hype about 3D television and we all know how that turned out. I am just not sure that people really want to wire themselves up to a bunch of expensive equipment just to spank the monkey and it would also affect the production costs for the studios.

Also, I already find that increasing the resolution of images has made for some pretty gross porn. I mean who really needs to see some performer's inflamed razor bumps in 4K, for example, coming at you in sharper than life clarity? So, now, do I really want to see a pimple on someone's butt not only in 3D, but also be able to reach out and touch it? I think that if I wanted that level of reality, I'd just stick to actual reality.

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