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09-26-10  08:25am - 5163 days Original Post - #1
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More external HD?

The video-files keep getting bigger and bigger, so yes - instead of deleting - another external HD - along with the three I have already.
So this question for the more tech- minded PUs:

Just saw a 2000 Gb (2,0 Tb) Iomega at this low price supermarket for what in US currency is about $140.
Is that price ok - but above all: is Iomega reliable/ok in general?
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09-27-10  12:27am - 5162 days #2
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Denner,

Seems like an okay price, although personally I don't like Iomega products (had one fail years ago). Although I think all Iomega makes is the case and they purchase Seagate drives, or at least they used to.

You can get WD or Seagate 2TB drives on amazon for <$120 that seem better reviewed by both CNet and the Amazon users.

Everyone has their preference, but I've always like WD stuff, I have 2 of their external drives now and never had any problems - and I don't treat them as well as I should. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars.
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09-27-10  06:50am - 5162 days #3
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I'm certainly not tech minded so all i can say is that i've got 2 Iomega external HDs and never had any problems with either of them, a 1TB drive which i've owned for two and a half years and a 1.5TB drive which i bought 6 months ago. The old 1TB drive is quite chunky, quite noisy and runs quite warm but never had problems with it. In comparison i'm much more impressed with the newest 1.5TB drive, the design is a lot slimmer (about a third of the size of the old one), and its much quieter and stays fairly cool but after only 6 months i can't really vouch for its longevity.

09-27-10  08:28am - 5162 days #4
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Thanks slutty and tangub....
Bottom line - guess I'll still look for good deals.
And btw - got one WB (My Book 500Gb) - and peculiar: it seems slower than the two others (one 260 Gb and one 1 Tb - both Lacie) I got...

And guys - I find - now after some time - that the time those external things take to respond - is quite importend..??? "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

09-27-10  04:37pm - 5162 days #5
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For what it's worth, Denner, the majority of my externals are now Iomegas. BUT, the only 2 TB drive I have is starting to click - after only a month of sporadic use. I went to Google to search the reviews for the 2 TBs and it seems there's some squawking about them not being as reliable as the smaller 1 and 1.5 TB drives. I'm staying with the 1 and 1.5 drives. They've been reliable for me for the last couple of years. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

09-27-10  05:10pm - 5162 days #6
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I don't consider my WD drives slow to respond. You might try finding a drive with eSATA if you really value better speed - assuming you have a port on your computer. I have one eSATA drive and one USB 2.0, and I find the eSATA one to be significantly faster both in access and transfer (I get transfers of 60 MB/s on the eSATA drive, and maybe 25 on the USB 2.0 one). Firewire is also better than USB, although not as good as eSATA. Of course the USB 2.0 drive is older and crappier so that could explain some of the difference, but theoretically eSATA has more bandwidth than USB. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars.
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09-27-10  06:45pm - 5162 days #7
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Denner, I have a iomega 1 TB external. The case is a nice and smooth metallic like style. The drive runs clean and actually has a on/off button, plus the USB cable is actually kind of long. Out of the 4 external HD's, the Iomega is my second favorite one. I like the size and clean look, plus the one I got is actually extremely quiet and never warms up too much. My favorite one I have is a WD Element. IMO, I would recommend Iomega's external HD's. Sexted From My iPad

09-27-10  07:09pm - 5162 days #8
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I recently purchased a 2TB Seagate storage device-- complete with extra bells and whistles.
Too many, in fact...still haven't figured out how to use'm.

Had an external My Book 500GB drive full of good stuff. Unfortunately during the upgrading from Vista to series 7 it decided it didn't want to come along.

I wish you Good luck with your decision.

09-27-10  07:32pm - 5162 days #9
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


Had an external My Book 500GB drive full of good stuff. Unfortunately during the upgrading from Vista to series 7 it decided it didn't want to come along.


How did that happen, graymane? I have three My Book externals (1 TB, 2 500GB) and they were not affected by my upgrade to Windows 7 ??

09-27-10  09:54pm - 5162 days #10
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Originally Posted by messmer:


How did that happen, graymane? I have three My Book externals (1 TB, 2 500GB) and they were not affected by my upgrade to Windows 7 ??


Who knows, Messmer?...My tech-guy said he gave it all he had, and added that if it were possible he'd have even given it mouth-to-mouth.
As with all these major transfers, though, I try to take no chances. I copied most of what I had prior to the upgrade onto the master Seagate Big-boy. I have my files also burned onto CDs.....which line all the shelves of an entire floor-to-ceiling bookcase that takes up a whole wall.
But, hell, who even knows the fate of those?...since most go way-way back.

09-28-10  08:33am - 5161 days #11
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


Who knows, Messmer?...My tech-guy said he gave it all he had, and added that if it were possible he'd have even given it mouth-to-mouth.
As with all these major transfers, though, I try to take no chances. I copied most of what I had prior to the upgrade onto the master Seagate Big-boy. I have my files also burned onto CDs.....which line all the shelves of an entire floor-to-ceiling bookcase that takes up a whole wall.
But, hell, who even knows the fate of those?...since most go way-way back.


You sound like me! I even have some "important" floppies kicking around that I should have chucked out ages ago.

09-28-10  01:17pm - 5161 days #12
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messmer, you have a computer that can read floppies still? kicking it old school.

graymane, I can't imagine what would have happened to your external drive that would have fucked it up when you upgraded to 7. I routinely bounce my drive back and forth between an XP machine and a Win7 machine, never had any problems...

I had a whole collection of CDs saved from years ago, but when I moved recently went through them intending to compile all of them onto DVDs only to find most of them had read problems now. Guess it was the sun, or defective media, oh well. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars.
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09-28-10  02:30pm - 5161 days #13
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Slutty, I read years ago that CDs will degrade. It's not necessarily the sun, though that would certainly increase the rate of degradation. It's just that CDs will degrade over time, which is well known by the "experts", whoever they are, but apparently less well known by the average computer user.

So it probably was not that you had defective media to start with, but that the media degraded with the passage of years. Which can be an unpleasant discovery to make if you stored files you really wanted to keep forever. Edited on Sep 28, 2010, 02:37pm

09-28-10  07:14pm - 5161 days #14
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Slutty, I read years ago that CDs will degrade. It's not necessarily the sun, though that would certainly increase the rate of degradation. It's just that CDs will degrade over time, which is well known by the "experts", whoever they are, but apparently less well known by the average computer user.


I thought it was the aluminum disc within the CD, or its coating/plating--the part that is actually "burned" by the laser--that could corrode over time and become unreadable. I didn't think just exposing CDs to the sun or UV rays could hurt them, at least not immediately, though leaving one in the sun for a long time could heat it up and possibly warp it.

I'm not 100% sure on these issues, Toadsith can probably set the record much straighter than I can on the computer technology questions. Though I'm pretty sure using them as coasters or Frisbees is not good for their longevity. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-28-10  09:46pm - 5161 days #15
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The fastest way to degrade a CD-R is to leave it exposed to direct sunlight. I am not counting sticking the CD-R in a toaster or in the oven or in the fireplace, which most people would more or less realize, anyway. CD-Rs use dye to store the data. The dye will degrade over the years naturally. But direct exposure to sunlight can, depending on the dye used in the CD-R, degrade the dye within a few days to a few weeks.

There are other factors that can make the CD-R lose data, but the dye is a major cause.

Edit01: I was talking/writing about CD-Rs. CD-RWs don't use dye, but do use metals for the recording. The two are similar in appearance, but the recording material is different.

Most people buy CD-Rs, because they are much cheaper than CD-RWs. Edited on Sep 28, 2010, 10:05pm

09-28-10  11:17pm - 5160 days #16
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yeah they were CDr's and yeah I knew they degraded over time, I was just too lazy to ever check up on them. Also, many were "cheapo" unbranded CDrs that used to be common back in the day, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were worse materials wise as well. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars.
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09-28-10  11:38pm - 5160 days #17
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


The fastest way to degrade a CD-R is to leave it exposed to direct sunlight. I am not counting sticking the CD-R in a toaster or in the oven or in the fireplace, which most people would more or less realize, anyway. CD-Rs use dye to store the data. The dye will degrade over the years naturally. But direct exposure to sunlight can, depending on the dye used in the CD-R, degrade the dye within a few days to a few weeks.

There are other factors that can make the CD-R lose data, but the dye is a major cause.


D'oh! I was thinking of regular audio CDs, not CD-Rs--big difference, though non-recordable CDs have been known to "rot" and lose data. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-29-10  04:55am - 5160 days #18
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


For what it's worth, Denner, the majority of my externals are now Iomegas. BUT, the only 2 TB drive I have is starting to click - after only a month of sporadic use. I went to Google to search the reviews for the 2 TBs and it seems there's some squawking about them not being as reliable as the smaller 1 and 1.5 TB drives. I'm staying with the 1 and 1.5 drives. They've been reliable for me for the last couple of years.


Thanks, RB - I'll certain remember that.... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

09-29-10  07:16am - 5160 days #19
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


I recently purchased a 2TB Seagate storage device-- complete with extra bells and whistles.
Too many, in fact...still haven't figured out how to use'm.

Had an external My Book 500GB drive full of good stuff. Unfortunately during the upgrading from Vista to series 7 it decided it didn't want to come along.

I wish you Good luck with your decision.


graymane, thanks.
That 2,0TB Seagate - what does that 'with extra bells and whistles' mean???

And BTW - regarding what RB said about the problems with a 2TB Iomega, also - are those external HDs getting too big, or?
Could it be reasonable to keep them down at 1 or 1,5 for now? "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

09-29-10  10:22am - 5160 days #20
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Originally Posted by slutty:


messmer, you have a computer that can read floppies still? kicking it old school.


slutty, that's just it. It's been years since I had a computer with a floppy drive. Yet I still have them kicking around in boxes, along with games and utilities I can no longer use. One of these days I'll have to chuck them out!

09-30-10  02:34pm - 5159 days #21
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Originally Posted by messmer:


It's been years since I had a computer with a floppy drive. Yet I still have them kicking around in boxes, along with games and utilities I can no longer use.

I've heard, messmer, there are external floppy drives that simply connect into a USB server.

10-01-10  10:12am - 5158 days #22
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


I've heard, messmer, there are external floppy drives that simply connect into a USB server.


Naw, I have no use for the floppies. graymane, I've just been too lazy to throw the whole works out. I've called them "important" because I thought so at the time, but they are only old applications, old passwords, really old games etc. One of these days (probably next time we move) they're history!

10-11-10  02:49pm - 5148 days #23
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I have a Thermaltake ST0014U BlacX Duet Hard Drive Dock. $40 on Tigerdirect. You can also get $20 units. These let you buy internal SATA drives at the lowest price and just plug them in. Most now come with both USB and eSATA to hook up to computer.

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