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| 04-21-18 07:24pm - 2437 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Yahoo email now with ads. For many years, Yahoo email was free. With almost no ads. Now, Yahoo email comes with ads that are put into the inbox for emails. And you can't delete them. I try to delete them, and can't. They appear to be a permanent part of the inbox contents. Tricky. But if I upgrade to Yahoo Mail Pro, I can get rid of the ads, with an ad-free account. Cost of Yahoo Mail Pro: $3.49/month $34.99/year. Pretty smart. I'm now looking for a free email plan that doesn't come with ads. Any suggestions for a free email plan that is easy to use? Note: I've had my Yahoo email account for over 20 years now. But I figure it's time to switch. Edited on Apr 21, 2018, 07:29pm | |
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| 04-21-18 07:47pm - 2437 days | #2 | |
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Jade1 (0)
Active User Posts: 103 Registered: Mar 28, '18 |
Try ProtonMail.com | |
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| 04-22-18 01:38am - 2436 days | #3 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
I presume you aren't referring to spam? Gmail and whatever the fuck hotmail is called now don't have much in the way of ads, obviously there is spam. I am not a big fan of google, but gmail is a pretty clean and efficient interface. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 04-22-18 02:16am - 2436 days | #4 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
slutty, The ads are spam. But they are sent by different advertisers, promoting different products, most of which I've never heard of. The spam is sent to my Yahoo inbox. And it can not be easily deleted, as most regular spam can be deleted. If you open the spam message, and then click delete, the spam message is not deleted. Separately, with most messages (spam and non-spam), there is a box beside the message that you can select, and then hit the delete icon, and the message (spam and non-spam) is deleted. But the spam advertisement emails delivered to your inbox, have the box filled in with a symbol, that does not allow you to select the box with a checkmark, because the box has already been filled-and blocks you from adding a check mark. So there is no simple way to delete the spam advertisement. 1. The normal box with the message, that you can use to select it for deletion, has been blocked. 2 If you open the spam advertisement and then hit the deletion icon, the spam advertisement is not deleted, but remains in the inbox folder. Annoying. The easiest way to get rid of this new spam advertisement would be to pay for the premium Yahoo email account ($3.49/month or $34.99/year), which I assume would stop the spam advertisement from appearing in your email inbox. Otherwise, you can't delete these spam emails that are sent to your inbox. You can't move them to the trash or spam boxes. They are pinned to your inbox. Tricky. They just started showing up in my inbox this week. My guess is that Yahoo wants to make money of the people who use their email system. More than the money they were making before, with random spam and other advertisements. Edited on Apr 22, 2018, 03:33am | |
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| 04-22-18 05:44am - 2436 days | #5 | |
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jook (0)
Active User  Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
Wow, I don't blame you for wanting to dump yahoo. It seems they've been going out of business for years now. I think their latest ploy will put them under for sure. I've been using gmail since inception, 2004. It's the most robust email for organizing and is rife with features. It allows you a very liberal amount of storage space. I passed the maximum a few years ago and pay a nominal fee (a few dollars a year) for extra storage. Jade1 mentioned protonmail. I'm currently trying that out because of its strong encryption feature. If you're worried about our favorite uncle gaining access to your emails, protonmail is the way to go. They're based in Switzerland so the US would have a hard time serving legal requests on them. Gmail is clearly a better option to prevent against hacking. There's an "Advanced Protection" service that makes it extremely hard for anyone to hack into your account. "Advanced Protection" requires the use of physical tokens or security keys, which make phishing attacks virtually impossible to pull off. | |
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| 04-22-18 06:48am - 2436 days | #6 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
@jook, I wrote a long reply to you, hit the "add reply" button, and my reply was sent to computer heaven. Much better to write to notepad, and cut and paste. Anyway, I will look into Gmail. Sounds like the easiest option. ProtoMail sounds complicated. And I have trouble remembering passcodes, keys, whatever. Thanks for the tip. And thank Jade1, but Gmail seems easier to use. | |
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| 04-22-18 07:09am - 2436 days | #7 | |
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Jade1 (0)
Active User Posts: 103 Registered: Mar 28, '18 |
I'll just point out that all your GMail is read by Google, and from it, a database about you is created. Then that info is sold to advertisers or whoever else wants to pay for it. All Google software is designed to gather information on you. That's how Google makes its money. It sells information about people. If you think Google is a philanthropic software developer, I'm afraid you are naive. Edited on Apr 22, 2018, 07:16am | |
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| 04-22-18 07:29am - 2436 days | #8 | |
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jook (0)
Active User Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
Yes, gmail reads emails which is a bit creepy. But they no longer sell the info. Interesting article from June 2017 below. I'm not advocating protonmail over gmail, but it's no more difficult than gmail to set up. It's the advanced option in gmail to prevent phishing and hacking which seems a bit painful to implement. If you want simplicity with robust features and without the advanced options to prevent phishing and hacking, gmail is the way to go, bearing in mind big brother is watching. Personally, since I have nearly 15 years of emails in gmail that I can reference and most of MY world knows my email address, I am not going to give it up. However, I may opt for the advanced options. http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/goo...s-emails-1202477321/ Google Will Keep Reading Your Emails, Just Not for Ads By Janko Roettgers @jank0 Janko Roettgers Janko Roettgers Senior Silicon Valley Correspondent No, Google won’t stop reading your emails. And you may not actually want it to. The search giant introduced a significant change to the way it treats its users’ emails Friday, announcing that it will stop scanning the emails of Gmail users to personalize advertising later this year. With that step, Google is getting rid of one of its most controversial advertising features. Ever since Google first introduced its free Gmail email service some 13 years ago, it has been analyzing the text of emails to personalize advertising displayed both within Gmail and elsewhere. Privacy advocates and concerned users alike have long criticized this as a far-reaching intrusion, but most other free email services have been doing the same — or at least reserved the rights to do so — for years. On Friday, Google announced that it would stop personalizing advertising based on emails in part to more closely align its free Gmail service with the paid email service it is offering to companies through its G Suite service, which was formerly known as Google Apps. Google Cloud SVP Diane Greene said in a blog post that more than 3 million companies pay to use Google as their email provider. Google has never used these corporate accounts for ad personalization. By phasing out the practice for free Gmail accounts, Google is likely looking to ease any remaining concerns from prospective G Suite customers. Google’s Chrome Browser to Start Blocking Annoying Ads Next Year Does this mean that Google will stop looking at your email? Not exactly. The company has also long been scanning Gmail accounts for other reasons, and in fact increased product personalization based on the emails you get over the years. The Google app on your phone, for example, knows when your next flight is leaving, and whether or not it has been delayed, based on emails you get from airlines and travel booking sites. Similarly, Google Calendar has begun to automatically add restaurant reservations and similar events to your schedule based on the emails you are getting. Google also has for some time automatically scanned emails for links to potentially fraudulent sites, as well as to filter out spam. All of this leads to an important question: Is this kind of automated scanning actually the same as someone reading your email? The answer to that may be more complicated than it sounds. Computers looking for certain keywords clearly aren’t the same as humans manually reading each and every email. However, as artificial intelligence (AI) advances, computers get a lot smarter and can better make sense of the emails in your inbox. Google has been investing heavily in AI, and one of the areas where it is using these new types of technologies is email. Case in point: The company recently introduced a new feature dubbed Smart Reply for Gmail’s mobile apps. Smart Reply uses neural networks — computer algorithms designed to process information similarly to the human brain — to figure out the main intent of an email, and then suggest short and adequate responses. It’s an incredibly useful feature, it works surprisingly well — and it clearly requires for Google’s computers to “read” your email. In the end, consumers need to decide whether they want to trade privacy for convenience and give Google access to their data to power these kinds of features — and removing something like ad personalization from the equation may actually help Google to get more buy-in from consumers. Google didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment for this story. | |
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| 04-22-18 07:32am - 2436 days | #9 | |
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Jade1 (0)
Active User Posts: 103 Registered: Mar 28, '18 |
I really don't care what you do, but may I ask what you think is complex about ProtonMail? There is no setup. I'm not sure what you are talking about. Edited on Apr 22, 2018, 08:39am | |
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| 04-22-18 08:39am - 2436 days | #10 | |
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Jade1 (0)
Active User Posts: 103 Registered: Mar 28, '18 |
And about Yahoo: Refresh the page and watch its tab. Wait until it has COMPLETELY FINISHED loading. Then see if you can delete these ad emails you are talking about. | |
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| 04-22-18 10:06am - 2436 days | #11 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Thanks for the tip about deleting special spam advertising placed in Yahoo email inbox. But your tip does not work. What yahoo has done: They have re-written their software, so that certain positions in your inbox list of emails are reserved for special promotional ads. With these ads, that I consider spam, since they appear in my inbox without my requesting them: 1. the check box beside the spam line is pre-filled, so you can not check it and then select delete this message. 2. if you open the spam message, and then select the delete icon, the spam message is not deleted. There is a qualification on this non-deletion: Sometimes the spam message is deleted, but it's replaced by a new spam message, that also has the checkbox blocked. And if you open the new, replacement spam message, and select the deletion icon, that spam is not deleted. So that line in your inbox list is reserved for special spam messages, that are either hard to delete, or if deleted, replaced by a new spam message in the same position on your inbox mail list. Refreshing the Yahoo inbox page does not seem to help in any way, to delete these Yahoo special promo spam messages. I would assume that there will soon be a mass protest against this technique, by many Yahoo email users. Edit: As I said before, one purpose of this technique is to force/encourage Yahoo email users to upgrade from the free to the paid, premium Yahoo email, since there is a message by the special spam that premium Yahoo email users will have the special spam blocked. And there are other pages that explain how to opt out of ads, or controls that might help, that I haven't read yet. But it's not the end of the world. I will keep my Yahoo email open, since I've had it over 20 years, I believe, and it's the email address I have given out to all my contacts. Edited on Apr 22, 2018, 10:18am | |
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| 04-23-18 05:28pm - 2435 days | #12 | |
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biker (0)
Active User  Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
I have my local internet providers Email, so no adds. It does seem to be the way the big providers are going. HULU was free, then they had adds, then they had a monthly payment to be add free,then they ended the free downstream altogether and they only have a pay service. Don't be surprised if they offer you add free with a small monthly payment. Warning Will Robinson | |
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| 04-23-18 06:50pm - 2435 days | #13 | |
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Jade1 (0)
Active User Posts: 103 Registered: Mar 28, '18 |
Duh? What fantasy bubble do you inhabit where companies provide services for free? | |
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| 04-24-18 01:01am - 2435 days | #14 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I am a hulu member. I pay $7.99/month with commercials. If I paid $11.99/month, there would be fewer commercials. But Hulu no longer offers a commercial-free plan. At least in my area (Los Angeles, CA). | |
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| 04-24-18 01:31am - 2434 days | #15 | |
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biker (0)
Active User Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
I don't live in a fantasy. I know there is no free lunch. I just think it is foolish that services like HULU waltz around and think they are doing you a favor by offering no commercials for a subscription and then suddenly drop the free alternative by saying how great their new offer is. Just be honest and say here is our service and this is what it costs. Warning Will Robinson | |
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| 04-24-18 07:58am - 2434 days | #16 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I think that most businesses (and people) tend to shape their communications to paint themselves in the best possible light. That is normal. And many times, basic honesty, or plain speaking, is ignored. My mother belonged to a health care organization when she was alive. Blue Cross. A very large organization. She paid a monthly fee for health care coverage. Shortly before she died, Blue Cross sent her a letter. They were raising her monthly fee by a significant amount. At the same time, they were reducing her covered conditions. In the letter, Blue Cross said they were doing this for my mother's benefit. Charging her more money, for less coverage. The rational was that Blue Cross would be in a stronger financial condition, so they would be able to serve her better. To me, that letter was dishonest. The rational was dishonest. It was not to my mother's benefit to pay a higher fee, for less coverage. But that's what businesses and people do: they describe their actions in the best possible light, even when the words are dishonest or self-flattery. Blue Cross, at the time, was in a strong financial position before raising my mother's fees. They were raising my mother's fees to increase their profits. So they could give their executives higher pay, higher bonuses. Plus, I'm not sure, but I think Blue Cross was classified as a non-profit at the time. As a shield to pay lower taxes. There are many ways that big business can earn huge amounts of money, and pay little or no taxes. | |
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| 04-24-18 09:53am - 2434 days | #17 | |
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Jade1 (0)
Active User Posts: 103 Registered: Mar 28, '18 |
Well you are right the language used is (if they have an customer relations skills) going to be flowery. But the reality is that services cost money. When changes are made it's usually not because of greed, as much as necessity for their operational costs. From the outside it's easy to assume it's always a sinister motive. And sometimes it is. But often it's done because it's necessary. | |
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| 04-24-18 10:31am - 2434 days | #18 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Many years ago, a small HMO (Health Maintenance Organization) was going to convert from a non-profit to a for-profit organization in California. Organization had an offer from a larger, competing HMO to buy them out. But the Organization has a lower, different offer from the executives who ran the HMO to buy it out for themselves. The executives running the HMO said they were the best suited to buy the HMO, because they knew the HMO and its clients best. And they had the interests of the HMO clients and the state of California as well, more so than an outside HMO that was merely interested in profits. The HMO executives also agreed, as proof of their sincerity, that they would not sell the HMO to anyone, for a set number of years. So California sold or let the HMO executives buy the HMO, at a lower price than the competing HMO was willing to pay. Once the set time period expired, the HMO was sold to the competing HMO, and the top executives of the HMO split over 100 million dollars among themselves, because they were the legal owners. The HMO executives also got golden parachutes, worth millions of dollars each, because there was a change of control of ownership (a legal term in the stock market). However, in addition to the millions from the golden parachutes, as part of the sale, the HMO executives were given new executive positions in the combined HMO. California sued the HMO executives for millions, because they didn't like the HMO executives making so much money from the deal. However, the courts sided with the HMO executives, saying whatever they did was legal. Greed? Yes. For the good of the state or the HMO clients? Not in my opinion, but the combined HMO said the combination was for everyone's benefit. I think this was back in the 1990s, when HMOs were a hot sector in the stock market. You want to call it sinister? That's a little strong. Call it business. Just like Sean Hannity used shell companies to buy property worth around $90 million, many in foreclosures. At the same time he was criticizing President Obama for people losing their homes through foreclosure. And Hannity was using HUD (federal) to insure millions of dollars of his property loans, at the same time Hannity criticizes people for getting welfare aid from the government--while Hannity's loans were a form of welfare aid. The difference is that Hannity was making millions from welfare aid, while poor people were only making thousands. But Hannity would say that he was investing to help poor sections, as a humanitarian investment (buying foreclosed properties at a discount). Edited on Apr 24, 2018, 10:42am | |
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| 06-23-18 10:11am - 2374 days | #19 | |
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merc77 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 291 Registered: Apr 17, '16 |
Yahoo wants me to shell out $3.49 a month to block ads. I decided to get AdBlock instead (donations are accepted so I gave them $25). Now I don't get those pesky ads anymore on many such sites! "Dogs think people are Gods. Cats don't as they know better." - Kedi (2016) Dogs have masters; Cats have staff. | |
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| 06-26-18 10:08am - 2371 days | #20 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User  Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
Calling Google a technology company is false. It is a data brokerage firm that collects data on its users by offering them no-cost products then turns around and sells that data. Note "no-cost" doesn't mean "free." "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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