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05-24-10  04:58am - 5326 days Original Post - #1
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gynecologic closeups

OK..Porn has introduced us face-to-face with The vulva, the "lips", the folds of skin (labia), clitoris, and the openings to the urethra and vagina.... and the videographers still apparently think we need to see more....at least that's the impression I get, What with their meaty close-ups pushing their zoom-lens as far as they'll go. What next, blown-up shots of the ovaries?
Would you agree that maybe directors have become somewhat over-zealous with this fascination of extended time and closeups of pussyville?
Why do you suppose these camera-men spend so much time shooting this stuff? Would it have anything to do with conventional vagina-deprivation young boys experience growing up?
Matter of fact, we have to endure way too much hairy-ass closeups of guys too.

05-24-10  08:21am - 5326 days #2
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I think the biggest reasons for those constant close-up is more a case of incompetence and lack of imagination. How many professional cameramen are working in porn today? It's a fact that anyone with a digital camera is now able to film porn as well as true professionals...NOT. We are subjected to these shots for the same reasons that we are subjected to every other weird things we see in porn.

Porn is produced by people that should never, ever have been allowed to own a camera. Let alone shoot hot girls having sex. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-24-10  08:27am - 5326 days #3
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Same with just about everything else in porn, lots of pervs want to watch the close shots.

On the grander scale, there are far worse things some pornographers choose to focus on than closeup pussy shots

05-24-10  08:31am - 5326 days #4
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Personally I don't like that kind of shot. You won't find that sort of gynaecological shot on any of my sites.

I guess to a degree it depends on what sort of sites you visit. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

05-24-10  08:43am - 5326 days #5
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I don't care for those shots either but I have to say that there are some people out there that love them and when we do not have them they get really upset. Owner Kick Ass Pictures
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05-24-10  10:27am - 5326 days #6
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I would much rather have a landscape full body reclining nude shot than any gynacological shot.

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05-24-10  11:03am - 5326 days #7
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Amen! amen! and amen!....perfectly put, Capn.

05-24-10  11:44am - 5326 days #8
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Originally Posted by Ed2009:

Personally I don't like that kind of shot. You won't find that sort of gynaecological shot on any of my sites.

I guess to a degree it depends on what sort of sites you visit.


Guess I'm gonna have'ta mosey on over to your sites, Mr.Ed.
I don't know of anything at the moment that would better promote'em than the absence of that road-kill.
I must admit,though, I have been spared the afore-mentioned of late cuz I'm focused on simi an' non-nudes.....
An' you know what? even something that tame, in a race for premium erotica, leaves those neanderthals planted in a cloud of dust Edited by Staff on May 24, 2010, 12:01pm (Khan: added quoteback per request)

05-24-10  12:03pm - 5326 days #10
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


Matter of fact, we have to endure way too much hairy-ass closeups of guys too.


Stick to girl only or girl-girl content and this shouldn't be a problem. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

05-24-10  12:26pm - 5326 days #11
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Well, I guess I'm going to have to be the odd man out (or just plain odd) and say I generally like a lot of (female) closeups, though not a 100% of the time. Yes, I like faces, breasts, legs, etc., but I'm only human and I want to feel as if I am getting my money's worth, so to speak. They are not always nice though, and a bad shave job, or a shave job gone bad, is what ruins closeups more than anything else for me--oh, and the evil of hairy man ass! So I stick to the more all-girl content and delete the ones with five o'clock shadows.

I say if the models agree to it, knowing there will be closeups--which should be evident when the cameramen are only a couple of inches away--and they are comfortable with it, what's the problem? There's obviously a demand, like so many of the other things that we treat as pet peeves here at PU, so they are going to keep shooting it. Plus there is plenty to choose from in porn, from the doctor's point of view to the more artistic, oh-she's-not-just-a-vagina content, and sites seem to usually make it relatively clear if they lean the way of an OB-GYN in their material. I have found that if a site has closeups in it, then they are not going to keep it a secret but instead use it as a selling point (can't say I blame them either).

But c'mon, if it ain't Playboy, then I don't want sites and companies thinking they can act like them and shoot super soft, Photoshopped/airbrushed crap. Sorry, but I pay for porn that is truly porn, if I want something softer I'll turn on MTV! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

05-24-10  12:38pm - 5326 days #12
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Stick to girl only or girl-girl content and this shouldn't be a problem.


Thanks for the tip, TurboShaft....regretably girl-girl isn't my cup of tea, either.
Whatever happened to the good old fashion "missionary position?" You know, where the guy is on top and his submissive partner writhing on her back..without the sordid closeups, of course. Now that's entertainment!

05-24-10  12:46pm - 5326 days #13
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Missionary is probably not best for shooting; it can get boring for viewers and, yes, the camera has trouble 'getting in there' and capturing the details, so you don't see it all that often. And even when you do see it you can still get a hefty dose of man ass! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on May 24, 2010, 01:01pm

05-24-10  01:00pm - 5326 days #14
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I agree that even fully clothed can be highly erotic if posed & shot well.

What I always find frustrating though is often sites featuring tease either do not go fully nude, or leap straight into midcore masturbation/ dildo without any coy or explicit full nudity.

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05-24-10  01:14pm - 5326 days #15
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Well, I guess I'm going to have to be the odd man out (or just plain odd) and say I generally like a lot of (female) closeups, though not a 100% of the time. Yes, I like faces, breasts, legs, etc., but I'm only human and I want to feel as if I am getting my money's worth, so to speak. They are not always nice though, and a bad shave job, or a shave job gone bad, is what ruins closeups more than anything else for me--oh, and the evil of hairy man ass! So I stick to the more all-girl content and delete the ones with five o'clock shadows.

I say if the models agree to it, knowing there will be closeups--which should be evident when the cameramen are only a couple of inches away--and they are comfortable with it, what's the problem? There's obviously a demand, like so many of the other things that we treat as pet peeves here at PU, so they are going to keep shooting it. Plus there is plenty to choose from in porn, from the doctor's point of view to the more artistic, oh-she's-not-just-a-vagina content, and sites seem to usually make it relatively clear if they lean the way of an OB-GYN in their material. I have found that if a site has closeups in it, then they are not going to keep it a secret but instead use it as a selling point (can't say I blame them either).

But c'mon, if it ain't Playboy, then I don't want sites and companies thinking they can act like them and shoot super soft, Photoshopped/airbrushed crap. Sorry, but I pay for porn that is truly porn, if I want something softer I'll turn on MTV!


Very commendable rebuttable,(intended pun) Turbo....and to your credit, there is abundant wisdom in all you've stated.
It might interest you to know I'll take all the facial closeups they'll give me, and then some (an' I ain't talkin' bout the cum-shots , for sanity sake) I'm referring to a gal's expressions as she's acting out or actually experiencing pre-ogasmic responses. And yes...reasonable time-honored closeups of the ladies are enthusiastically welcomed here....but when I can count her pubic hairs whilist awaiting a cut...well you get my drift.

05-24-10  02:16pm - 5326 days #16
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


It might interest you to know I'll take all the facial closeups they'll give me, and then some (an' I ain't talkin' bout the cum-shots , for sanity sake) I'm referring to a gal's expressions as she's acting out or actually experiencing pre-ogasmic responses.


You should look into the site, I Feel Myself, it borders on extreme softcore in that it rarely shows anything except the model's face, slight boobs, occasionally lower but very rare. From what I remember of the site, the models were amateurs, no big name pornstars and the basis of the videos is the filming of a woman masturbating and having an orgasm, while focusing on her facial expressions and body movements. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

05-24-10  04:06pm - 5326 days #17
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I like an occasional pussy closeup myself. Some pussies are really pretty things to see! And some girls have prettier ones than others. I would miss the closeups if they went completely out of vogue.

But I'm not into overdoing it, and that's the problem, yes? Having the woman spread it with her fingers, stretch it with a good pull on the labia, and pose for those "pussy as a cup" kind of shots is, in my most humble opinion, taking things further than necessary.

We don't see Lenka Horokova doing new things these days, but she had a really nice looking pussy. Not to mention that friendly/naughty look on her face.

Now as for hairy male ass, well, to me that's just disgusting. When the camera lingers on that, I wonder what's going through the mind of the person operating it. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

05-24-10  05:01pm - 5326 days #18
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


You should look into the site, I Feel Myself, it borders on extreme softcore in that it rarely shows anything except the model's face, slight boobs, occasionally lower but very rare. From what I remember of the site, the models were amateurs, no big name pornstars and the basis of the videos is the filming of a woman masturbating and having an orgasm, while focusing on her facial expressions and body movements.


Thanks a bunch, Exotics.....great tip, but I'm way ahead of you....been there done that. I love the site, spacing out my subscriptions so's I can pick up on the new girls.

05-24-10  05:05pm - 5326 days #19
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


It might interest you to know I'll take all the facial closeups they'll give me, and then some (an' I ain't talkin' bout the cum-shots , for sanity sake)


No, I didn't think you were either. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

05-24-10  05:51pm - 5326 days #20
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I like an occasional pussy closeup myself. Some pussies are really pretty things to see! And some girls have prettier ones than others. I would miss the closeups if they went completely out of vogue.

But I'm not into overdoing it, and that's the problem, yes? Having the woman spread it with her fingers, stretch it with a good pull on the labia, and pose for those "pussy as a cup" kind of shots is, in my most humble opinion, taking things further than necessary.




Now I know another reason why Drooler is your chosen handle. Cuz that was what the gal reading your post, from over my shoulder, was doing....as well as grab a hand-full of tissues to wipe the beads of sweat from her brow. She finally excused herself and, amid your "pussy" dissertation ringing in her ears, made-haste to a back bedroom...presumably to take care of business.
You got a way with words, Drooler....ever think of writing romance novels?

05-24-10  06:17pm - 5326 days #21
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They say you become more interested in the overall girl, and less explicit more erotic suff, the older you get. All I can say is I have always hated those gynaecological close ups from a very early age. Give me a view of the whole girl having sex and that's the best view for me. If it's softcore, then a view of the whole girl without any clothes.

05-24-10  06:30pm - 5326 days #22
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I don't mind a few closeups of genetalia but my issue is when the camera has been showing only that for 5 minutes. My porn has to include th entire package so that means face shots, body shots, genetalia and various permetations of these shots. If the cameraman spends 5 minutes showing me a girls vagina during the sex than my mind wonders what is happening outisde of the camera angle. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-24-10  07:41pm - 5326 days #23
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Missionary is probably not best for shooting; it can get boring for viewers and, yes, the camera has trouble 'getting in there' and capturing the details, so you don't see it all that often. And even when you do see it you can still get a hefty dose of man ass!


Au contraire Oh porn Aficionado..I beg to differ...There's a myriad of more erotically advantageous angles favoring the missionary position..sans hairy-ass males.
What frosts my gonads is that single worn-out cemented shot of male ass, balls, peep-hole view of vaginal mound and gruelingly repetitious in and out penile thrusts that screams out to be quarantined to the belly of Hades

Whew!

05-24-10  10:44pm - 5325 days #24
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Well I guess I just assume that if it is termed gynecologic closeups, it would be a close-up shot that does not have a cock in sight. I mean, how many cocks is one going to see in a gynecologist's office?

05-25-10  12:33am - 5325 days #25
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anyways, this is what's so great about hi-res photography, you get the best of both worlds! Zoom in for the gynecological views, zoom out for full-body enjoyment

05-25-10  07:23am - 5325 days #26
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Graymane1777 hit the nail on the head. I'm pussy deprived. I have zero interest in looking at the guys but I LOVE anything and everything about the feminine form. Extreme gyno closeups, full body looks, her face. It's all good to me!

05-25-10  01:34pm - 5325 days #27
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


You got a way with words, Drooler....ever think of writing romance novels?


Yes, he does have quite a way with words--PU's current poet of porn! "Pussy as a cup"...take that, Walt Whitman! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

05-25-10  01:34pm - 5325 days #28
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I view the whole excessive closeup thing as similar to a car. Once you've seen the inside of the engine you find out that it's complicated, dirty and full of stuff you don't really understand. People talk about engines but we all really like is a sweet looking ride. Besides, all you really care about is if it gets you to where you want to go.

05-25-10  01:40pm - 5325 days #29
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You have a point, Wittyguy, but you still need to look under the hood every now and then. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


Now I know another reason why Drooler is your chosen handle. Cuz that was what the gal reading your post, from over my shoulder, was doing....as well as grab a hand-full of tissues to wipe the beads of sweat from her brow. She finally excused herself and, amid your "pussy" dissertation ringing in her ears, made-haste to a back bedroom...presumably to take care of business.
You got a way with words, Drooler....ever think of writing romance novels?


They'd probably wind up sounding too much like Henry Miller, and then I'd get accused of just being a wannabe.

But I'm glad to know it made someone happy! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

05-25-10  03:21pm - 5325 days #31
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


You should look into the site, I Feel Myself, it borders on extreme softcore in that it rarely shows anything except the model's face, slight boobs, occasionally lower but very rare. From what I remember of the site, the models were amateurs, no big name pornstars and the basis of the videos is the filming of a woman masturbating and having an orgasm, while focusing on her facial expressions and body movements.

I Feel Myself has mostly full body shots, although somewhere near half the shoots are lit so as to hide "the fun parts". The site that's probably best known for concentrating on facial expression is Beautiful Agony. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity.

05-25-10  03:35pm - 5325 days #32
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


They'd probably wind up sounding too much like Henry Miller, and then I'd get accused of just being a wannabe.


Ah, Henry Miller, he's one of the authors who sent an impressionable young mind down the wrong garden path (thanks, Henry.)

Many a happy hour was spent with his books!

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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


The site that's probably best known for concentrating on facial expression is Beautiful Agony.[/black]


Thanks loads, RB....I shall trot on over to that site and see what it's all about. Looks like something that would really appeal to me.

05-25-10  06:57pm - 5325 days #34
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Ah, Henry Miller, he's one of the authors who sent an impressionable young mind down the wrong garden path (thanks, Henry.)

Many a happy hour was spent with his books!


I am sure many an hour was...

I wonder if had he been alive today with Internet and its vast, vast offering of porn if he would be able to get any writing done. He'd probably be an online sex columnist or blogger. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

05-27-10  01:26pm - 5323 days #35
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Originally Posted by graymane1777:


Au contraire Oh porn Aficionado..I beg to differ...There's a myriad of more erotically advantageous angles favoring the missionary position..sans hairy-ass males.
What frosts my gonads is that single worn-out cemented shot of male ass, balls, peep-hole view of vaginal mound and gruelingly repetitious in and out penile thrusts that screams out to be quarantined to the belly of Hades

Whew!


Nice rant, GM!

I love rants.......

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05-27-10  08:38pm - 5323 days #36
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NO. Gyno is what I like just like how others like to see a big black cock fuck a white teen. It's all in the flavor. It is called fetish. To each there own. Will

06-02-10  12:56pm - 5317 days #37
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This pretty much says it all:


06-02-10  04:16pm - 5317 days #38
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NO. Gyno is what I like just like how others like to see a big black cock fuck a white teen. It's all in the flavor. It is called fetish. To each there own.


Well one thing about gynaecological shots (like in ITC), you can see if a model is genuinely excited or not. Nothing like a speculum to help you see if the shoot is done for money and fun or for money alone! Written in jest because I prefer shots from a bit farther away.

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