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| 12-13-09 06:42pm - 5487 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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GCode (0)
Active User  Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
Brazzers and Lopsided Reviews/Comments I really see this site reviewed and talked about a lot. I have never been a member nor do I really think It's my fortay to begin with. But, I am curious to hear some thoughts on the site outside of a review/reply/comment. My main thoughts are the site is reviewed and commented a lot, therefore, the site must be subscribed to a lot. However, I have not really seen such lopsided remarks about a site than this site. The site appears to offer a lot of content that is above average in quality but they do plenty of shady business practices that seem to be extremely unpopular. I'm just wondering why many users seem to dismiss these practices as 'it is what it is' and still thumbs up the site. While I have no first hand experience, plenty of my most trusted users have both gave this site great remarks and horrible remarks. So, does anyone think that if the site was less popular that the site would not get so many dismissals when it comes to the hardships they seem to commit. I mean, one of the first things I look for in a site is trustworthy transactions and quality customer service. From most comments, this site delivers neither when it comes to this. Basically, why does it seem to be the most lopsided commented site? Even larger sites that tend to get some extremely well reviews with a mix of 'worst' reviews tend to get higher scored than this site. For example, many seem to have different takes on Videobox but there is never really extreme lopsided reviews when it comes to the site. Many reviews are in the upper 80's and 90's but rarely does this site get reviewed under 80, let alone 70. I am targeting this site for discussion because I think it's interesting. I'm hoping some PU's can give me better insight as to why this appears to be happening here. Sexted From My iPad | |
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| 12-13-09 08:00pm - 5487 days | #2 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I'm looking forward to a few answers myself, GCode. I've never subscribed to Brazzers myself because fake and overblown breasts are not my thing (unless they sag a bit) but it does appear to be a network you either love or hate, no happy middle ground. | |
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| 12-13-09 09:22pm - 5487 days | #3 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
Anyone who's paid any attention to my rants about this site has got to know that I'd like to see what people have to say about it. I've wondered why people still join and have asked why on here. And I still haven't seen anything other than a dirt cheap price that would make anyone even consider playing their games and tiptoeing through their . Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 12-13-09 11:03pm - 5487 days | #4 | |
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GCode (0)
Active User Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
Your input has been something I've read a lot in all the different reviews and comments for Brazzers. But, what you say now really does not give me any insight as to why the lopsided scores are present. Maybe the fact that the discount is present is something that you stated in the response and the reason why? But, I just can't see how a discount presented for this site which is the same for an extremely high number of sites would be the reason why large lopsided review scores are present for this site. This is because it's not like discount is extremely low, like in the $10 range or something. However, I do see the fact that the site is a network and maybe with the discount present vs the content available is why people keep going there with the thought process that 'it is what it is' because the price is right? I suppose this could be a reason but I cannot register that this could be the complete reason why so many are giving the site completely high scores or extremely low scores. However, the price versus content aspect is definitely a great argument as to why the network is scored so high when a lot of other problems is present. Sexted From My iPad | |
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| 12-13-09 11:41pm - 5487 days | #5 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I think it has that much content at a decent price that enthusiasts will rave about it. It has that many dodgy practices other folk are going to curse them. A situation like that is bound to polarise opinion. :0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 12-13-09 11:47pm - 5487 days | #6 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
As far as the content is concerned, it's like sushi. Some people see you eating sushi and ask, "How can you EAT that?" For others, it's delicious. The evident flaky security and bait-and-switch tactics are another matter. I don't know why the site has this problem, but like everyone else, I have enough hassles already, and I don't need to knowingly pay to have another one. I did join once, in mid-2008, with that $10 for a month thing. Went from being disappointed and grossed out by the women (most of them) to just being bored. I wish there were more sites that emphasized classy-looking girls that just enjoy a good fuck, instead of this carnival approach with wild, phat-ass tatted beasts of lay that do a lot of freaky shit. Too much hype just blows the circuits. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 12-14-09 12:38am - 5487 days | #7 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User  Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
GCode, Brazzers has some frustrating cancel screens that bring a lot of the hate towards them. The last time I was on it, I clicked cancel. A screen said, "Are you sure? You're going to make the biggest mistake of your life". Each of these messages offers you a lower price to stay. The second one said, "Ok, so you want to cancel, why don't you just say you don't like looking at beautiful women?" I found the screen to be a bit humorous. Others I have talked to say they felt offended by it. If I remember correctly, there were four of these screens before I actually could cancel. You have to go into Brazzers with an understanding of what you're getting. It is listed as a network, acts like a network, but it is really just a DVD site like Videobox. They have pictures, but the sizes are tiny and the pictures are often just screenshots taken directly from the video. Which any of us could do by using VLC media player and using its "screenshot" function. I think another reason for such a broad range of scores is that they use mostly very familiar pornstars. That is a plus for some people, a big minus for others. Another reason, lots of implants and tattoos. None of these things really bother me, but they are often make or break points for others. My problem with this site was simple. They stopped updating my two favorite sites on the network, Asses in Public and HQ Honeys. Asses in Public had some of the best exhibitionist content on the internet on it. HQ Honeys was European solo models. Brazzers falls in line with the other big 3 networks, Naughty America, Reality Kings and Bang Bros. Each one is similar in content and in models. There is one side of me that kind of shows some pity for them. They do shoot exclusive content. There really are only so many ways you can dress a model up. There are only so many scenarios that can be done in porn. I think what we're seeing is just the continuation of members being bored with basic sex. I would still recommend Brazzers to a person who had never joined it. They have some good content and back when them and the other 3 first started, they were almost cutting-edge. Problem is, they now have 200+ scenes of girls in schoolgirl outfits, 200+ scenes of girls having sex in the office, so it becomes repetitive to many. In my opinion, they have some really great models, especially if you like curvy women. But it does get boring after awhile. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 12-14-09 07:44pm - 5486 days | #8 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Brazzer is not like Videobox because that site's only purpose is to allow users to download scenes from DVD's. Brazzer is a site that produces individual sex scenes with an actual scenario. Each scene is a stand alone. They do sale their content on dvd's. I think they are broken down under their pseudo sites like "Milf like it Big" I think the main thing that hurts them and kind of pisses off some of their customers is that they aren't truthfull about the HD. They should simply offer 2 packages. One that offers HD right away at a certain price and the other at a reduced cost without it or that you have to wait the 6 months to get it. They have some cross-sell but they aren't the only ones. Another thing that annoys people is that a large amount of their female performers have breast implants. I think that it's unfair to compare this site with anything except similar. Using Videobox isn't a good choice because their content is all leased and no matter how bad some of it is. The quantity of scenes available is so large that it'sa difficult to not make most people happy. Brazzer has to be compared to NA, Reality King, Bang Bros and a few others. When compared to those then it will fair better. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 12-15-09 06:13am - 5486 days | #9 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
Pat, I didn't compare Brazzers to VB. I said Brazzers is like a DVD site; Videobox just happened to be the one that came to mind. Brazzers pictures are not high quality just like DVD sites that have pictures aren't high quality. Brazzers has standard 640x480 videos just like DVD sites have 640x480 videos. The exclusivity doesn't really fit since there are DVD sites that are exclusive like Devils Film. Brazzers does nothing more than deliver average quality videos. Like most DVD sites. They don't really fit with the other 3 networks, except in model selection and typical scene type. To me, they compare closer to a Videobox than Reality Kings. Brazzers has the exclusivity over Videobox. They wouldn't have that over Reality Kings. This would make Brazzers show that they really are a network and not just a DVD site. They have 3 sites on their network that aren't traditional b/g, b/g/g or b/b/g run of the mill hardcore porn. Those sites are HQ Honeys, Asses in Public and Hot and Mean (Lesbian). The first two haven't updated in over a year. Hot and Mean just started this year and only has 27 scenes on it or about 1 update per 2 weeks. A regular month membership would give a member 95% b/g run of the mill hardcore and 2 lesbian scenes. Nothing more. Reality Kings in comparison has multiple b/g run of the mill sites, they have a lesbian site that has been updating for years and still is, they have a couple of group sex sites, a public reality site, a CFNM site, solo girl scenes, a site with only Euro models. To me that is a network. You can get very different content from the different sites. Brazzers doesn't do that. The difference in Brazzers sites begins and ends with the outfit the model has on and the setting of the scene. It's still going to become, 5 minutes of poor acting, blowjob, vaginal sex, anal sex, cumshot, scene over. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk Edited on Dec 15, 2009, 06:18am | |
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| 12-15-09 09:50am - 5486 days | #10 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
I wouldn't compare them to any other site. I look at it more like signing up to walk into a pickpocket convention with a blindfold on. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 12-15-09 06:49pm - 5485 days | #11 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Brazzers is quite likely the most heavily-advertised porn site on the internet - perhaps rivaled by Twisty's. They have a quite decent join price and they have employed a whole lot of well-known porn babes in their vids, which are exclusive - and let's face it, guys like boobs and they accentuate the boobs. But whereas Twisty's delivers what they advertise in a very consistent and straight-forward and professional way, Twisty's has fair customer service and an owner that is among the most conscientious people working in the adult industry and Twisty's has a forum where real members exchange opinions with real other members and real Twisty's staff that identify themselves that way, Brazzers goes another direction entirely. They are dishonest about what they have in terms of rate of updates, in terms of what you really have access to, they make it virtually impossible to even request a refund and I seriously doubt that they ever actually refund anybody, their Customer Service is non-existent and their forum is a fucking troll-swamp filled with Brazzers staff posing as members to shoot down anybody that wants to question their rip-off business practices. They seem to think that their decent join price gives them the right to rip off their members every way they can think of. Get the idea? | |
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| 12-15-09 07:09pm - 5485 days | #12 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Sorry about that. I thought you were comparing both. It's true that Brazzer is really a video only site. The picture sets are meant to be used as teaser for what you will get in the videos. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 12-15-09 11:41pm - 5485 days | #13 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Well as a photoset geek, that puts the final nail in it for me. That is them off the 'Maybe' list. :0/ Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 12-30-09 12:31pm - 5471 days | #14 | |
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malikstarks (0)
Active User Posts: 108 Registered: Nov 19, '07 Location: Florida |
Brazzers is like the McDonald's of internet porn: 1. I know guys who don't really mess with a lot of porn but they of know and (some) have been a member at Brazzers. This is in part due to advertising but more importantly Brazzers girls are what I'd call the "pornstars pornstar", Barbie dolls with big fake tits (and the controversy that surrounds that.) In other words when the average guy on the street thinks about a porn star they think nice tight body, ass, and most importantly BIG FAKE TITS. Brazzers knows this, and they have done a remarkable job at slavishly catering to that market of (somewhat shallow) average guys. (even at the expense of more diversity in terms of girls and sites) As a result of this Brazzers has a wider base market than the other big name North American sites (Reality Kings, Bang Bros, and Naughty America). Basically I'd say it appeals guys of all ages, since most fantasize about the "prototypical" porn star. (at some point) Meanwhile imo the other sites have an appeal that is a bit more limited: Reality Kings: has a large back catalog but really lacks an identity in terms of what they are about, they're a bit of a jack of all trades without really mastering anything, even going as far as to be the only one with a tranny site. If anything maybe they appeal mostly to older guys primarily due their biggest site still being Milf Hunter. BangBros: Great site, has always had the best vid quality. (till Brazzers 1080p) From what I gather, Bang Bros has always been more popular with a younger audience (college kids) due to the typically irreverent nature of the both their sites (like bangbus, and monsters of cock which was really first of it's kind) and their directors. Most conspicuous (shocking really) is the lack of any blatent "teen" related site. This stems from the fact most college boys are basically teens themselves and are not yet at the age of fantasizing about teens. Naughty America: Clearly caters to an older crowd, with even a slight bent toward "couples" porn. (I've heard women do ALL the writing.) 2. As far as the shady practices, not to downplay anyones individual circumstances, but I don't think the vast majority have any problems. (I'm mean they use Epoch for christ sake.) It may be they are so popular that just from a sheer numbers standpoint there are going to be problems. Then of course when someone does complain about something the legions of Brazzers fanboys (whom have had no problems) may take exception. (The biggest blowup lately has been over the 1080p blue ray being advertised on the outside but only available to members after 6 months. There is some merit to that complaint so I won't disparage it here, but I'd say the others are isolated incidents.) 3. The $9.99 loyalty discount, not sure if they still offer it, but they did for a very long time and it clearly enabled them to build up a very large base of loyal customers. I for one could never bring myself to cancel, even though I'm not really what you'd call a huge fan of the content. 4. I think most of the detractors of the site are generally guys whom have developed more sophisticated tastes in porn and prefer more diversity in both girls and content. Again in this regard Brazzers is like McDonald's you know what your getting, how it's going to taste, and whether you like it or hate it. UPDATE: one of the newbies just posted an old link for the $9.95 a month and it looks like it still works http://www.rk.com/deals/brazdeal.htm The link is old as hell and is still advertising "updates" dated 2008! If you are even curious about the site I'd get on top of that now since I don't think that price is offered any longer even if you try to cancel. (could be wrong though) Edited on Mar 15, 2010, 12:19pm | |
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| 12-30-09 01:20pm - 5471 days | #15 | |
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james4096 (0)
Suspended Posts: 132 Registered: Mar 02, '09 |
Great post malikstarks. "Brazzers is like the McDonald's of internet porn" I agree. | |
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| 12-30-09 05:39pm - 5470 days | #16 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Naughty America - It is an interesting porn company in regard to the prominent role of women - many of their top people aside from Andreas, the owner, are women. They definitely encourage more couples-interaction than other sites. Lauren, the cutie who hosts their daily interview live show - I've got a wicked crush on that babe! - had a hand in directing a number of scenes on the site but made a comment last Monday that now they license their content. Interestingly, the personality of their content doesn't seem to have changed or gone away, so I'm not sure what relationship they have with the company that they are licensing from. | |
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| 12-30-09 09:34pm - 5470 days | #17 | |
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hodayathink (0)
Active User Posts: 312 Registered: Mar 27, '09 Location: Illinois |
Basically, most of the people they license/produce (I think produce is the more suitable word here, because they buy the content directly so you won't see it anywhere else) their content from are either former or current talent. I know that at least one of them is male and at least one of them is female. But they are in direct contact with the producers near everyday. So they still have a good deal of control over the content, even though they don't produce it directly. | |
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| 12-31-09 07:00am - 5470 days | #18 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
I think that hands-on approach - and also their close contact with their members - is serving NA very well. It's a site that has improved markedly, in my opinion, over the past couple of years, in terms of the heat of their scenes, and the whole live show thing is a bonanza for their members, given the quality of the talent and the shows - including having a camera person instead of a stationary web cam. | |
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| 02-21-10 02:36am - 5418 days | #20 | |
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hodayathink (0)
Active User Posts: 312 Registered: Mar 27, '09 Location: Illinois |
There's a couple of news stories out right now that made me think about this thread. As you might imagine, their shady business practices go beyond just trying to screw their users: http://www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=40145 http://www.xbiz.com/news/117538 | |
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| 02-21-10 04:28am - 5418 days | #21 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
That was a nice pickup, hodayathink! The rage continues. A curse on those who continue to fill their pockets. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 02-21-10 07:44am - 5418 days | #22 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User  Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Brazzers is a good site mostly. Now that they offer HD that looks incredible they have caught up with some of the others. The 6 month thing has been a deterrent for me though. I have seen some of there HD stuff and it truly is great looking, as I mentioned but I canceled my 2 year long membership with them about a week before they announced the HD concent and the 6 month rule. Part of the reason Brazzers is rate4d so high is that they have many niches that they cover extensively. They do have a cheesy story line in the beginning of the videos which some like. Also, at least last time I was there, their site navigation was very easy. A big plus is the price. You can cancel or watch for specials and get full access for $10 which is practically unbeatable, especially as other sites are raising their prices. The downside is the scenes start off the same a lot and always end up the exact same way. But I guess there really is only about one way for them to end up. They due over use the cum facial. What it comes down to is that I support the upper 80 reviews and the largest downside being the 6 month thing for HD content. If they got ride of that I would subscribe again and likely score them mid 90's. I say mid 90's because I know going in that Brazzers does cookie-cutter porn and when I go to them that IS what I am looking for. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 03-08-10 10:29am - 5403 days | #23 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I agree, At Brazzers you d not get a quality meal with all the fixens, its like getting a happy meal, it will satisfy you for now, but soon you will want more meat in your meal. Since 2007 Edited on Mar 08, 2010, 11:44am | |
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| 03-08-10 10:45am - 5403 days | #24 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
It's true that Brazzer is in many way the fast food of porn but in it's defense. It's fast, it's hot, it will feed your hunger and you know exactly how it will taste. I wish they would have more natural looking girls but until another site comes out then I guess we are stuck with them. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-08-10 11:45am - 5403 days | #25 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I know what you are saying Pat, hmm lets combine twisties with Brazzers , not thats a hungry man meal LOL Since 2007 | |
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| 03-08-10 06:19pm - 5402 days | #26 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
There has to be someone with the money and foresight to see that there is a huge market for a Brazzer like site but with natural girls. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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