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| 01-13-13 06:24pm - 4361 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
So what do you think of it so far? With apologies to two much loved old time British comics I have named this thread "So what do you think of it so far?" They're dead now so aren't going to care much anyway. After being a member of PU for over four years, I pondered on what conclusions I have come to after surfing porn, and doing a few reviews. What started me thinking about this was joining Team Skeet, which was my first membership in about 3-4 months. I wanted to join something at the end of last year but it was so so difficult to decide. Every time I considered a network it had either pre checked cross selling, download limits, or regional discrimination. From the rest I found it very hard to choose. They were either very samey, or I had subscribed before and wasn't entirely knocked out by the content. I kept surfing those free download sites trying to work out who had the best material, and in the end didn't subscribe, as basically the most interesting sites for me, either had pre checked cross selling or regional discrimination. I joined Team Skeet simply because it looked good, and they removed pre checked cross selling. Here are the conclusions I have come to. 1. Quality over quantity. Quite frankly I would rather join a network that has 30 decent downloadable scenes out of 80 than 50 downloadable scenes out of 1000. I'd rather have fewer scenes to download, than spend hours searching through a mass of, for me, uninteresting scenes (I was tempted to put "rubbish" instead of "uninteresting scenes" but one man's meat...). That way I end up with fewer downloadable scenes but have spent less time sifting through what I consider to be uninteresting material/rubbish. If I had unlimited time to view porn it would be okay, but I don't. I want to spend that time viewing great stuff, not hours sifting through material just to find a couple of scenes half way worth keeping. I have sympathy with webmasters because everyone has different tastes. I am not saying what I like is good and what I don't like is bad, I am simply looking at it from my point of view. From my perspective I would rather find fewer scenes on a smaller site, but with a higher downloadable strike rate, meaning I spend a higher proportion of that time viewing great material. 2. Price doesn't matter. Well it does sort of. As someone who used to buy vhs videos, going by those prices, I have probably downloaded about $500,000 worth of material from subscribed sites, stored on one small 1TB external drive. However if material between sites is always the same or very similar, obviously I am going to go for the cheapest or best deal. 3. Don't try to trick me you fucking bastards. That sums it up perfectly. Pre checked cross sells, regional discrimination, unstated download limits, and preview clips which aren't in the subscription, piss me off. At one time I would only subscribe to sites like that if they had outstanding and unique material. Now my attitude has hardened and I simply will not subscribe at all to any sites with these practices. I hope the sites who do use those cons, go to the wall. I have absolutely NO qualms about ripping them off by downloading their material for free. In fact I feel good about it. For the record here are the sites I looked at and discounted. Some sites appear twice as they practice both cross selling and regional discrimination. Pre checked cross selling - 18XGirls, Casting Couch X, Babes Network, Fame Digital, HD Porn Pass, Hustler Mega Pass, Naughty America/College Sugarbabes, Reality Gang, Swank Pass Twistys/Twistys Hard, Massive Access, Zero Tolerance On Demand, Lords Of Porn, The Hardcore Network, Teenie Access, Teen Pink, Lords Of Porn, Porn Multi Pass, Casual Teen Sex, Teenie Lovers, Way Out Sites, Youn Sex Parties, Reality Junkies, Young Courtesans, Young Libertines, Sell Your GF, Lethal 18/Lethal Hardcore, Naked Pages, HD Love, Passion HD, Mofos Network. Regional discrimination - Mofos Network, SpunkyBee/Tin Seks/Teenburg, Anal Tryouts/Russian Teens Club/Slovak Teens Club/Sextronix, Reality Gang, Cum Louder, Home Girls Party. Download limits - Casting Couch X, Dane Jones, No Rest Network, Fake Agent/CastingXXX/Public Agent. 1+3. This one's a mix of 1 and 3. I am sure you are aware of the kind of network that produces good material, but they just can't stop themselves from mass producing more and more of the same type of material using the same models, over and over and over and over. It may be well produced but personally there is only so much of a girl I want to see. It's a small type of con but it's annoying when they have 36 sites that all look the same and all use the same "house models." It pads out the perceived content - and pisses me off. Let's look at this scenario, and call some imaginary network The Squirrel's Nuts. They advertise 14 sites, and 4 updates a week across the network. The sites are Bedtime Bonkers, Natural Bangers, DP Dynamos, Lesbian Sex Orgy, Wet And Wild, Fantasstic Fuckers, Bestial Desires, Young Sex Crazy Drunken Party Orgies, Gagging Gulpers, Balloon Bang Fetish, Disgusting Old MILF Slags, Innocent Newcomer Casting, Young Teen Schoolgirls, Me And My Bangers. Now let's look at the latest 14 updates, you may feel you recognise some of these (any resemblance between these and real networks is purely intentional). Laura and Sergei have sex in bed on Bedtime Bonkers. Lara has sex outside with Chuck on Natural Bangers. Laura has sex with Sergei and Chuck on DP Dynamos. Laura and Lara play with some toys on Lesbian Sex Orgy. Lara gets out of the shower and has sex with Sergei on Wet And Wild. Laura takes it up the ass on Fantasstic Fuckers. Laura has sex with Sergei dressed as an owl on Bestial Desires. Laura has sex with Chuck and Lara has sex with Sergei while five girls in short skirts who you'd rather see without clothes, and five guys holding beers and cheering watch, in Young Sex Crazy Drunken Party Orgies. Sergei shoves his dick down Lara's throat on Gagging Gulpers. Laura and Chuck have sex with five balloons tied to the bottom of the bed on Balloon Bang Fetish. Lara wears a pound less of makeup and has sex with Chuck on Disgusting Old MILF Slags. Chuck interviews newcomer Laura and finally convinces her to undress and have sex on Innocent Newcomer Casting. Lara dressed in a college uniform and pigtails has sex with Sergei on Young Teen Schoolgirls. Sergei picks up Laura in a car and convinces her to have sex after 25 minutes of chatting up on Me And My Bangers, 4. External drives are your greatest porn friend. If you find great material don't lose it. I learned the hard way, but that was before I found out about external drives. I was vaguely aware of them, but didn't know exactly what they did, and anyway thought they would be too difficult for me to use. Nowadays external drives rule: I even backup the backup, because one day your external drive will fail. It's inevitable. 5. This is still the golden age of porn, given the amount and price of material. PU members will sit young kids on their knee (just before the police knock down the door), tell them tales, and fill them with fear about times when there were no computers, no downloadale porn, and the only pictures of people having any kind of sex at all were illegal and would cause their distributors to go to prison for a very long time. This meant you could either buy a new Ferrari or third generation vhs video of The Devil In Miss Jones. Well that's it, if anyone is interested. I don't post often nowadays as I simply don't have enough time to bore the shit out of everyone. I also have less time to view porn, but that's okay because I don't get jaded, but I clearly do get pissed off. I don't mind paying for something, but I want to be the one to decide. I don't want to pay for something then discover I have either bought something else or haven't bought what I originally thought. | |
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| 01-13-13 10:52pm - 4360 days | #2 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
A very nice assessment of the state of things, Squirrel. I especially like the rant you stuck in there. "Don't try to trick me you fucking bastards". Amen! I also like to see people talking about backing up their back ups. As I type this, I glance up at a stack of thirty some hard drives, wondering why I've spent so much money (and time!) on all these destined-to-fail devices. But, when I think about the files I've lost over the years, it reaffirms the need for the madness. One last thing. Now that you've discovered the wonderful use for external drives, there's yet another step you can take. They're called hard drive docks. USB and/or eSATA devices you drop bare hard drives into. Bare drives are typically much cheaper then having to buy a drive in an enclosure. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 01-14-13 02:11am - 4360 days | #3 | |
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KET924aab (0)
Active User Posts: 60 Registered: Dec 18, '12 Location: California, USA |
I feel your frustration dude. The pre-checked cross sells are highly annoying, but unfortunately I think they are here to stay. I've only been duped once (got joymii when I joined femjoy), but it turned out OK since I found some good lesbian scenes to download there. But I still remember being pissed about it for several days. I just said to myself, hey live and learn. It won't happen to me again. The next time I encounter it on a site I join, I'm going to email the administrators and let them know how unhappy I was to see it. If we want to keep this in check, I think that's the best way to do it. If you boycott the site, but they never know you did, that's not going to make them change their mind about doing it. | |
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| 01-14-13 03:04am - 4360 days | #4 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Very nice thread. Some very good thoughts. Quality over quantity. Like you, I don't have the time, the energy, or the enthusiasm I once did to pick through a pile of rubbish to find vids or photos I might enjoy. I know that, in the internet age, the price for porn has diminished dramatically. But I still try to find sites that I think give good value: a site that is easy to use (navigation, download speeds, not a lot of advertising cluttering up the member pages, etc.), with good-to-high quality content that I enjoy. I'm constantly looking for new sites, but I also revisit sites that I found worthwhile in the past. Regional pricing doesn't affect me, because I'm in the U.S. Pre-checked cross-selling is irritating, but since so many sites use it, I try to make sure, when I join a site, that I don't get dinged. I remember (dimly) when The Devil In Miss Jones was playing in movie theaters. But I never saw it then, and never watched it on VHS or DVD. But I did see Emmanuelle and The Story of O in a movie theater. And these were regular movie theaters, that showed mainstream movies. The city I was living in at the time did not have any porno theaters (though it did have topless bars). In fact, there weren't any porn shops in that city (it was in Southeast U.S.). | |
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| 01-14-13 01:25pm - 4360 days | #5 | |
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Thomas20 (0)
Active User Posts: 60 Registered: Dec 27, '09 Location: England |
I am with Squirrel on a lot of this, although I tend not to over worry about the 3+1 point even if it is a bit of a nuisance. I would add point 6 though : Nowadays if you get ripped off on a site there is at least some chance you can get your money back off the billing company. I have read posts where that happened. Also, once I thought my subscription ended at 12pm UK time and intended to get some scenes later that night but I got shut out before 12. So I emailed to complain and they gave me 2 extra days. When I thought about it, it may have been 12pm euro time so perhaps I didn't get screwed at all. But they still had given me the extra days. And now we can get the word out on forums and what not if we do get genuinely ripped. In the old days I heard that if you went back to soho to complain that the Private video you paid £50 for (probably about 75USD) was a blank tape you'd probably just get kicked in the side of the head. Thomas | |
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| 01-14-13 02:30pm - 4360 days | #6 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
 X2 Squirrel. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 01-14-13 02:30pm - 4360 days | #7 | |
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Micha (0)
Active User Posts: 321 Registered: Jul 04, '10 Location: san jose ca |
RagingBuddhist wrote They're called hard drive docks. USB and/or eSATA devices you drop bare hard drives into. Hi RB How does a bare drive mate with the docking module? Do you have to join the connections? How are the different power requirements handled. I have 10 or twelve drives and each has a different amperage requirement. You can go heavy on the amperage, but an insufficient load will overwork the drive motor. thanks.....M unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck. | |
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| 01-14-13 03:38pm - 4360 days | #8 | ||||
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
There are pins at the bottom of the dock. The drives are guided into position by the dock housing.
Nope! (See above) 
Just like most external enclosures, I believe most have a power supply, somewhat commonly called a wall wart. Not to say they don't exist but I've never seen one with an internal supply.
Not sure I understand what you mean by that. Do you mean are the power supplies strong enough to safely run the drives? The one I have (a Thermaltake) has a 3 amp @ 12V output, so I would imagine at least some of the manufacturers took into consideration the different power requirements of different drives. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. Edited on Jan 14, 2013, 03:41pm | ||||
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| 01-14-13 08:35pm - 4359 days | #9 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Yep, nothing like a good rant RB. Thanks for the tip about the hard drive docks. Have to look into that one. | |
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| 01-15-13 04:36am - 4359 days | #10 | |
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Micha (0)
Active User Posts: 321 Registered: Jul 04, '10 Location: san jose ca |
RB wrote: Not sure I understand what you mean by that. My external drives have differing power supply needs. They all use 12 volts but the amperage requirements range from one half to three amps, so it is important that the wall wart that came with the machine be used. You can fudge and power a 2 amp drive with a 3 amp transformer, because the drive will take the power it needs. But if you feed a 3 amp drive with a one or two amp transformer, the drive motor will starve out causing it to overwork and probably shorten the motor's service life. Thank you for the reply. That helps M unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck. | |
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