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| 05-13-10 02:58pm - 5337 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Goldfish (0)
Active User  Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
What's in a name? I credit this thread to BadMrFrosty. In one of his recent reviews he mentioned the site he was reviewing, Nubile Girls HD, had seemingly random model naming. The model naming on many of those Euro sites is annoying. I guess the idea of model identity isn't important for those Eastern Europeans and they just sell the identity along with the pics and video to the site owners. I personally think they are making a mistake not allowing the models to have a name that crosses between sites (including a last name!). I bet if they allowed the girls to gain a little celebrity and own their names they'd find they make more money from users who are seeking out specific girls. What are your thoughts? | |
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| 05-13-10 03:22pm - 5337 days | #2 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I must admit I have found a lot of Eastern European models appearing at various sites under different names, working in some cases to different levels. Yes, it is frustrating if you are wanting to trace all the material of a particular model. I can only guess at the reasons for it. Perhaps there is a stigma in their country attached to working in porn? Perhaps they don't want their families to find out? Most of them that fall into this category though tend to be amateur / semi-pro models though. I think those that genuinely want to make a career out of it stick to a more consistent identity. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 05-13-10 04:59pm - 5336 days | #3 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
My completely clueless guess is that things are just done differently over there as opposed to here. I doubt there are many agents or advocates for the girls. Most of them, like the fresh meat everywhere, aren't really thinking of a career, they're just thinking about cashing that check. I also think that the girls are seen as more of a disposable commodity by the producers there - "Who cares what she was once called, I'll call her 'Anya' because 'Bitch' is perhaps just a bit too crass." Eastern Europe is more chauvinistic than here so the producers don't care. Besides, it seems like there are plenty of girls waiting in line if some starlet gets wants to put up a fuss about intellectual property rights and screen names. Has an Eastern Euro model even bothered to sue someone before in that court system? Also, there's limited marketing availability for the girls. No strip club tours, conventions or merchandising is really available for them so I would guess that they don't care what their screen names are either since their job pretty much begins and ends with the shoot. I guess its just us pervs who obsess over our collections that are bent about this one. Edited on May 13, 2010, 05:03pm | |
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| 05-13-10 06:59pm - 5336 days | #4 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I'm also at a loss as to why the models have to have a different name. It's possible that the people responsible just don't care what name is used. I have noticed that some of the newer models tend to have a name that goes with them from site to site. The one that comes to mind is Sasha Rose. I've seen quite a few of her scenes and for the most part the name Rose may disapear but the Sasha remains. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 05-13-10 07:32pm - 5336 days | #5 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I'm not in the business end of porn, just a consumer. So I don't have any hard facts about the way names are given. But my impression was that the site where the photos or videos are posted was the source of the model's name. The site owns the right to post the video or photographic material, and it "gives" whatever name it wants to the models. I doubt that the photographer or model's agent or the model herself has much control over what name the site uses. A site like Met-art sometimes gives a model one name for a photoset, then gives a different name to the same model for a different photoset, and then possibly gives still a different name to that model on a different photoset. And Metmodels, which I believe is owned by the same people that own Met-art, can give still different names to that same model in their photosets. Wittyguy sums it up perfectly: "I guess its just us pervs who obsess over our collections that are bent about this one." Except that I have stopped obsessing about trying to track down all the names of my favorite models. I try to be satisfied in getting whatever comes my way, without spending too much time and effort in searching the internet. | |
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| 05-13-10 08:19pm - 5336 days | #6 | |
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anyonebutme (0)
Active User  Posts: 294 Registered: Aug 23, '09 |
Some girls don't want hordes of perverts following them around the internet. Some girls don't want celebrity status from being the biggest slut in town. | |
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| 05-13-10 09:26pm - 5336 days | #7 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User  Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
This came up in a discussion awhile back. A couple of webmasters told a few of us that the model name used is the one the model lists her name as when they sign a contract with their site. Then we heard from another webmaster that the sites pick the names. This one made the most sense once looked at as a marketing move. One of the best examples would be Sandra Shine. She appears on at least one site as Judith. The webmaster who was bringing us the "true" reason for the name differences explained that sites do this so they can claim a model is new. I'm not for sure which side is right or if it is maybe a little of both. I know that Nubiles at one time had 4 sets of Klaudia and 5 sets of Cindy. Of course, Klaudia is Cindy/Cindy Hope. I don't even know how that is explained. Once I posted a comment on here about it, they fixed it and put all of the sets with one name. As for agents, most of the top tier Euro models do have agents on the level as their American counterparts, if not even higher. Euro Babe Index used to list the agency/agent for each model, not for sure if they still list that or not. On a side related note, Eve Angel has told that she entered the porn industry with the name Katie, but then switched it to her real first name of Eva, but a site she was on called her Eve Angel and it stuck. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 05-13-10 11:09pm - 5336 days | #8 | |
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anyonebutme (0)
Active User Posts: 294 Registered: Aug 23, '09 |
Websites can use whatever name they want. Like one example is Eufrat's video on the website givemepink.com. She is listed under the name Janette, then immediately as the scene begins the cameraman asks "What is your name?" "Eufrat". It's just the way it is. Don't look in to it any further than webmasters are free to name them whatever they choose. Once the girl does up work for someone else, it's the pornographer who owns the works and full rights to make money off it any way he can - the girl just gets a one-time payment up front. At that point, it is entirely the site owner's decision what name to put up that he wants to to sell his work. | |
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| 05-14-10 05:55am - 5336 days | #9 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
First I totally agree with Goldfish - It's annoying - and like Capn states: frustrating - and I believe all here think it's generally a mess... Man, I spend hours - sometimes - tracking down all those models with often 6-10 alias'.... The best help is still (I think): http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandomain.html - but even that index does not have complete track of all models or names....and it's - YES: FRUSTRATING/A MESS - when you browse different sites (previews, too) and look for that - or a couple - of special favorite models - and BTW: with MetArt it's a jungle! Both Wittyguy and exotics (and others) have some fine suggestions/inputs about the problem - but I seriously doubt we'll ever get the whole story - or just better help for us PUs.... BTW: Even (or typical) a pretty good network (for easteuro hc and solo) like Teen Mega World has problems with different names for the same model - not only at the many different sites, but also at the same 'almost motherload-site': Teen Sex Movs where you can locate the same models with more than one name....  "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on May 14, 2010, 06:47am | |
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| 05-14-10 11:10am - 5336 days | #10 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
The whole name change problem pisses me off too, and it's definitely not conducive to following a girl's 'career' in the business. As a result you end of following a lot of dead leads, wrong names, and wasting a lot of time in confusing indices (EuroBabe can be fun for a few minutes but is not always helpful). I also find myself having to identify models by name and site-- ____ on _____ --so as not to just throw out a fairly common model name and leave people wondering. Lisa/Liza, Cindy, Holly, the list goes on of super common names that are far from unique to any one model--and I can't take it anymore!  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on May 14, 2010, 11:21am | |
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| 05-14-10 11:16am - 5336 days | #11 | |
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Cpmx54 (0)
Active User Posts: 42 Registered: Oct 09, '09 Location: USA |
Sorry man, I have to say something about this one. I'm really not looking to start a fight... But, I doubt that having different names across different websites is really going to fool their families into thinking that's not really their daughter...  | |
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| 05-14-10 11:22am - 5336 days | #12 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Probably not, but it makes it a lot harder to search by name. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 05-14-10 01:05pm - 5336 days | #13 | |
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anyonebutme (0)
Active User Posts: 294 Registered: Aug 23, '09 |
It does makes it more difficult to pull up images of dozens of random ugly guys banging one's daughter from a quick google image search if she used a common name like Alice or something. There is a certain reality to this work that is conveniently easy to dismiss from over here on this side of the internet. | |
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| 05-14-10 03:25pm - 5336 days | #14 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
I used to work with European models when I first started out. Many of them refused to let me use their real names and had no interest in using a fixed stagename. Many didn't want to make a career of it, they were just happy for me to avoid their real name. Another thing I will say that a lot of Eastern European females names are not too pleasant sounding for us English speakers. Try "Agnieszka" for example. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 05-14-10 03:30pm - 5336 days | #15 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Pretty much like I said then, Ed. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 05-14-10 04:39pm - 5335 days | #16 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
As a webmaster, can you provide a simple answer to the question: who is in control of the name listed for a model who appears in a photo shoot or video on a web site? My guess is that the web site (webmaster) is in control. Not the model or the photographer or person who shot the video. Does the contract that gives the web site the right to publish a photo shoot or video also give the web site the right to name the photo shoot or video? Or does the right to name the material belong to someone else (the model, the photographer, or who, specifically)? | |
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| 05-14-10 07:30pm - 5335 days | #17 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Well, I'm not Ed but I think I can answer this one for you ... In almost every case, it's the web site owner who gets to determine the name used for the model. Most standard model releases give permission to the copyright holder (or the person who buys a license to use the content) the right to "name" the model whatever they want. Some model releases ask what name the model would *like* to go by but in all the releases I've seen (and used) it's merely a request. In some cases, especially if 2257 type documentation is provided, the webmaster will be given any previous names the model has been "published" under. Then it's up to them if they want to use one of the previously used names or not. I would agree with Ed that oft times it's simply a matter of a lot of Eastern European female names are not too pleasant sounding for us English speakers so the webmaster uses something else. Bottom line, it's understandable that "collectors" would get frustrated when a model is published under more than one name. Still, getting pissed about it may be a bit of an overreaction. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 05-14-10 07:45pm - 5335 days | #18 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Thanks for the very simple and clear answer, Khan. I thought that was the way it was, but confirmation from an "expert" is always helpful. Also, if you haven't been pissed about the multi-name model confusion, it seems you're not heavily into collecting. It makes searching for a favorite model's material harder, as well as making the filing under the different names more difficult. But why should the porn sites try to make life too simple for the dedicated porn collector? Lol. | |
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| 05-14-10 08:17pm - 5335 days | #19 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
If you followed my explanation then perhaps you can see that in many cases, one site simply doesn't know what name another site may have used for the same model. It's not like they're intentionally making it confusing for you. Former PornUsers Senior AdministratorNow at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 05-14-10 08:27pm - 5335 days | #20 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I did follow your explanation, Khan. Thanks again for the help. | |
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| 05-15-10 06:07am - 5335 days | #21 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
Hmmm, that's a little complicated. Ultimately the model is in control as if she won't sign a release which gives the webmaster control (which is the norm) then either a new release, where she keeps control of her name, is needed (which is not unusual for higher-profile models with a well known name) or the shoot doesn't happen. In my experience most models are not too worried about what name I use for them, they just want to get paid. Having said that, my sites use mostly amateur models who don't aim to develop it into a career anyway. A model release can vary hugely. Many give the webmaster, or owner of the resultant material, total rights over it and how it is used/presented, but if I used a professional model who was maintaining a specific image and selling herself as a brand, then she might well have her own release form which would control all sorts of things, including possibly how long I am allowed to use the photos for. On top of that there are probably contract law differences between the US and Europe. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 05-15-10 06:12am - 5335 days | #22 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
Sorry Khan, I should have read all the way to the bottom of the thread before I replied. Your answer is spot on. I've always tried to ensure I used consistent naming for my models so when the same girl has appeared on several of my sites she has the same name. Also if they have a preferred name I almost always use that. It makes it easier for them to remember their names in videos too! Khan is quite right about not knowing what names other websites have used. And if a model appears on three other sites, each time under a different name - which do I use? There is another confusion here. I sort out names for models at the time of the shoot (so they know what to call each other during the talkie bits), but between the shoot and the videos being published on my site, 2 - 4 months might pass. Meanwhile another site might use the same models and publish before me, using different names. I can't seriously go back and dub new names on the videos. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 05-15-10 06:39am - 5335 days | #23 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Ed2009, thanks for your explanation of how names are used for models. Like many things, something apparently simple can get complicated. | |
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| 05-15-10 09:38pm - 5334 days | #24 | |
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Goldfish (0)
Active User Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
I have to agree with Cpmx54. If a woman is in porn she can easily choose a fake name (preferably first and last names) that will persist through various Web sites. There is no way going from "Liza" to "Lisa" to "Ivana" is going to confuse some 2nd cousin who stumbles on her video clip one night and blabs to the family. I think the increase in that sort of risk is insignificant. | |
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| 05-15-10 09:41pm - 5334 days | #25 | |
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Goldfish (0)
Active User Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
Agnieszka sounds hot! lol BTW Ed, I don't put the whole burden on you or any single web master. It appears to be an industry wide practice so what can you do? Edited on May 15, 2010, 09:53pm | |
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| 05-15-10 09:48pm - 5334 days | #26 | |
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Goldfish (0)
Active User Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
As a collector I'm not "pissed" but it is unfortunate we lose the ability to search for our favorite models. Back before the explosion of porn on the Internet I'd look for videos by Racquel Darrian or Jenna Jameson. Even though some Eastern Euros may not be in it for long there are plenty that create a significant amount of material. If they gave them a fake name like "Jenny Smith", I wouldn't care as long as they were searchable. | |
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| 05-23-10 01:57am - 5327 days | #27 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I think the fundamental cause is that only the higher profile professional models are interested in being a 'brand'. Most either lack the industry clout to ensure their identity is promoted, or don't care as long as they are getting enough work & getting paid. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 05-23-10 05:13pm - 5326 days | #29 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
"Agnieszka" sounds like a Hungarian version of "Agnes," with a little extra frill added to it. I'd say that the spelling is a bit tougher to deal with than the sound, though that can be overcome with a little exercise of the "noodle." The benefit of using Eastern European (or Spanish, or Italian, or German, etc.) names is, ironically, that you get more names! As things are, I already have 5 girls named Nicky, 3 named Niki, and a whopping 24 named Nikki! Who knows how many I'd have without the addition of Angnessa, Birgid, Bogdana, Dasha (oh, but there are 10), and Jana (22). Oh, well. At least you CAN get more names ...  But get this: I just went on a hard drive uber-search to find just where the fuck I'd put my Nicole Grey! Turns out I'd stashed her away as Emiliana (the name she had at Karupsha) BECAUSE I already had so many Nicoles! So the naming nuisance can happen with the American girls, too. At least to me ... I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on May 23, 2010, 05:19pm | |
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| 11-09-10 08:50am - 5157 days | #30 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User  Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
Late to the discussion. I just posted a new thread on this subject. While I understand the point that Khan raises, that the webmaster may not know the name in the first place so he/she assigns a random name, that does not seem quite right. After the Tracy Lords mess totally changed the legal aspects of porn in the 1980's, it was the responsibility of the purveyor of porn to establish with positive evidence that all models were over the age of 18. That remains the case today. So how is it possible that the webmaster who is posting material of a very young looking babe willing to do so without first vetting the model thoroughly to avoid the serious legal consequences of promoting child pornography? If the webmaster is relying on his source to do the vetting, the webmaster is taking one huge gamble; much like a girl taking the guy's word for it that he doesn't have AIDS. I don't buy it that the webmaster doesn't know the model's real name or stage name. Rather I suspect the issue is, as stated by others, laziness or some other motive such as creating a notion of exclusiveness. Edited on Nov 09, 2010, 08:56am | |
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| 11-09-10 10:11am - 5157 days | #31 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
It would seem you only read part of what I posted above. I say that because you seem to have skipped over the part where I said, "In some cases, especially if 2257 type documentation is provided, the webmaster will be given any previous names the model has been "published" under. Then it's up to them if they want to use one of the previously used names or not." First off, if you think most webmasters are willing to use the model's real name (and yes, they probably do know it) then you're mistaken. The (very real) risk of stalkers would keep the majority of webmasters from placing the model's real name on a porn site. Next, as I clearly mentioned in my earlier post, IF the model happens to provide the names she's worked under before (assuming she knows what name she was published on at earlier sites) then it's entirely up to the site owner if they want to use that name or not. Finally, remember that 2257 record keeping is only really required for the US. If the content is created (and used) in other countries then it's doubtful that the model release would contain past names used. Yes, in a perfect world, the job of collectors would be made easier because all publishers would use the same unique name for each different model. However, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that perfect world. But not to worry, the paranoid among us speculate that in the future, all people will receive a bar-code at birth. Won't it be easy for porn collectors then. Former PornUsers Senior AdministratorNow at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson Edited on Nov 09, 2010, 02:42pm (Khan: typo) | |
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| 11-09-10 10:24am - 5157 days | #32 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Then you will get Medical Techs altering the bar code so would be porn stars could get themselves genetically modified to have humongous breasts.    Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 11-09-10 01:11pm - 5157 days | #33 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Hitmen like Agent 47 have a bar code on the back of their shaved head. It isn't tattooed/printed at birth, but at a very early age, as I recall. But in spite of the bar code, law enforcement agencies are unable to easily locate these killers. So I don't know if imprinting the general population with bar codes will make the collection of porn stars much easier for us collectors. Maybe you can come up with a better suggestion, Khan? | |
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| 11-09-10 01:59pm - 5157 days | #34 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Not looking to side-track the thread but since you asked ... I count myself among the more paranoid people here. While I doubt I'll live to see it, I wouldn't be surprised if the younger users here live to see a day where micro-chips are implanted under the skin at birth. These chips would not only be scannable, but trackable via GPS as well. Much like the chips they currently use on some high-dollar show dogs. I'm thinking that when this starts to happen, there will be all kinds of reasons offered why this is for the "greater good". Throughout man's history, I can't think of a single bit of technology that hasn't been abused by a gov't in their hopes of controlling the masses. Hey, I warned you I was paranoid. Former PornUsers Senior AdministratorNow at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 11-09-10 09:56pm - 5156 days | #35 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
Actually it will make life easier if we can track models on websites by their barcodes and not by their names.  | |
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| 11-09-10 10:20pm - 5156 days | #36 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Oh, don't worry, Khan: you're probably already being tracked with your cellphone! Or, if you're really possessive, just get some "find me if you can lingerie" for your partner. After all, it could be a "lifesaver." Maybe this type of underwear is for those people who see no problem in walking around with their kids strapped into a harness and leash, or where drug testing their teen is just a family ritual. But if all the bureaucratic stooges (government or private, it doesn't really matter) are too busy looking at porn online rather than tracking us I'm sure you have nothing to worry about. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 11-10-10 07:39am - 5156 days | #37 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Nope, I don't have one. The wife does have an old one (sans GPS) but it's been 6 months or so since the battery lasted longer than 15 minutes. But I will take comfort in the fact that you're probably right, the bureaucratic stooges are busy watching porn. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 11-10-10 09:20am - 5156 days | #38 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Hey, just because I'm not paranoid doesn't mean folk aren't out to get me.  Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 11-13-10 08:54am - 5153 days | #39 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Does anybody know the name(s) or sites this model has appeared under? She is listed as a new model at Metart in a photoset posted today: 11.13.2010 PRESENTING NEW MODEL ALENA J BY ANDRE LE FAVORI She has a cute face, slender body, seems very sweet. http://www.metart-femjoy.com/showMet.php?ID=5560 I know I've seen this same model many times for years, but I can't remember where. I seriously need a brain implant or to get my roto rooter man to clear out the clogs in my memory system. Edited on Nov 14, 2010, 12:51am | |
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| 11-13-10 11:54pm - 5152 days | #40 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
Your link takes us to a whole bunch of models. | |
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| 11-14-10 12:59am - 5152 days | #41 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Sorry about that. I replaced the previous link with a new one, that links to a page of the model Alena J only. The new link is: http://www.metart-femjoy.com/showMet.php?ID=5560 Her photoset was posted: Nov. 13, 2010 at Metart Title of the photoset: PRESENTING NEW MODEL ALENA J Model name: Alena J I've seen this model for years, but I can't remember under what name or what sites. Does anybody else recognize this girl, and remember what sites she is featured at, or her other name(s)? | |
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| 11-15-10 03:12am - 5151 days | #42 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
Looks like we need an adult site equivalent of IMDB.com Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 11-15-10 09:13am - 5151 days | #43 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
WTF is IMDB ? Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 11-15-10 09:14am - 5151 days | #44 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
Click here: The Internet Movie Database (IMDb) | |
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