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| 09-10-08 07:41am - 5909 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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williamj (0)
Active User Posts: 102 Registered: Sep 29, '07 Location: usa |
Something seems a bit odd with some Porn Users.. Some PU members seem to post alot of reviews. If you read their reviews they seem to all be the same. If you look at other posting on the same site alot of the content is just re-written and repackaged. First of all who has the time to join as many of sites as some PU users seem to join. I'm not even questioning the cost of the monthy memberships. ITS THE SAME PEOPLE WINNING THE RAFFLES? If you look at the top 5 PU posters their reviews to me are all the same. I have to question are they making up as they go along? They include alot of information, the same information you can get from The Best Porn or from other review sites. I'll continue to visit the site but whenI see reviews by certain people I have to laugh because I already know what its going to say. A lot of nothing. Will | |
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| 09-10-08 07:50am - 5909 days | #2 | |
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williamj (0)
Active User Posts: 102 Registered: Sep 29, '07 Location: usa |
Roseman did 5 reviews in the past 24 hours? How's that possible. Actually he did 8 reviews in the past 7 days. Seems like someone is looking to win some money. Will | |
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| 09-10-08 08:30am - 5909 days | #3 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Hmm interesting, Other variables, but I poundered this after reading your post. I think the system works well here, but with any place you may have others working the system? Cybertoad. Since 2007 Edited on Sep 10, 2008, 08:34am | |
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| 09-10-08 08:32am - 5909 days | #4 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I did a little math on this, dividing the raffle winnings for the current top five ranking reviewers by the number of reviews that each have done so far. 1. Exotics4Me: $1550/151 reviews = $10.26 2. Roseman: $650/141 reviews = $4.60 3. SnowDude: $1110/107 reviews = $10.37 4. NYGiants03: $600/79 reviews = $7.59 5. Drooler: $650/75 reviews = $8.60 This is how much in raffle winnings each of the users have won for every review they've done. As you can see, plainly, there is quite a spread here, and Roseman has clearly been earning "below minimum wage" for all of the reviews he's posted. However, it's a crude set of statistics because some of the reviews were written before we even had raffles at PU. But it does well enough to counter the accusations that you are leveling, particularly those at Roseman. I have no idea, of course, of how Roseman gets so many reviews out, but he certainly isn't getting the payoff that the others in the top five are. Nor do I know how he can produce 8 valid reviews in 7 days, but I don't consider that inconceivable. Maybe he just has a load of dough to spend on porn sites and the time to crank out those reviews. Statistics aside, and I mean completely aside, you're judging people only from a half-baked impression that has formulated in your own mind. You've jumped the gun and came out here and insulted the current top five reviewers here based on NOTHING more than that. When I write a review, I take the trouble to gather detailed info, organize it, and present it as readably as I can. Call me arrogant if you want to, but I know damn sure that most of my reviews wipe up the floor with some of the chickenshit poor excuses that get posted here. And I'm not the only one who knows that. So if they all look the same to you, pal, I couldn't care less. Why don't you go to my page right now and give me a negative trust rating, which is what I think you already did to Roseman, too? See if I fucking care. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Sep 10, 2008, 08:41am | |
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| 09-10-08 08:36am - 5909 days | #5 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Droolers Your right looked in to that . I edited my forum posting accordingly Cybertoad Since 2007 | |
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| 09-10-08 08:43am - 5909 days | #6 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I would be very careful before I criticised anyone's output of reviews. Some websites are part of networks, and you get to see a lot of websites for one membership. Also, the rules allow for you to review a website after a full access trial membership. Some websites are very easy to review and don't require a complex analysis-for example some websites have very little content. | |
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| 09-10-08 09:41am - 5909 days | #7 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Williamj, I won a raffle after about twelve reviews, so that shoots your theory down. You manage to question the reviewers' integrity as well as that of the PU staff. As for me, I like to review sites and wouldn't care if I ever won anything. If I can steer anyone away from a horrible site and help them save their money, that's reward enough. I think the overwhelming majority of reviewers do it either because they want to share their enthusiasm for a site with others or because they want to clue them in on some of the pitfalls when it comes to Internet Porn sites. | |
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| 09-10-08 09:45am - 5909 days | #8 | |
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williamj (0)
Active User Posts: 102 Registered: Sep 29, '07 Location: usa |
I stand by my comments. I've done my homework and research and my conclusion is that the top reviewers are using cookie cutter templates. I see nothing in the comments from fellow PU members to contradict my opinion. Roseman's 8 reviews in 7 days, he's not the only reviewer that slams 5+ reviews in a very short period of time. If you look at the reviews you will agree the reviews are very well written but generic. Will | |
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| 09-10-08 10:23am - 5909 days | #9 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I did pretty close to what Roseman did, when I was on Brazzers. Waited until I reviewed all thier sites and then posted in just days if not hours. But it was a month of review done all at once after sifting the facts. There is no conspiracy theory here. You said that no one contradicts your statements, however you are 100% speculating that a person is using a cookie cutter or other programs, why true anything is possible. Its also true that its not. Its like guessing right now that the election winner is fixing the votes or its rigged. Perhaps it could be, but it also could not be. I would be very careful about accusing ppl about rigging to win. Thats basically calling a persona thief and the facts ( not speculation) should be in, as it stands you are guessing at aa theory, one possible theory. You joined ( guessing here) to give a review and have ppl respect that review. Posting things like this will not help ppl build trust in what you say. Hope this helps. Cybertoad Since 2007 | |
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| 09-10-08 11:33am - 5909 days | #10 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User  Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
On thing to consider is that I just won the $100 raffle, and I did not write a single review during that time period. You do not have to write reviews to win, you can get a fair amount of tickets by doing other things. Roseman is likely writing these reviews in Word or something to help him with spelling, grammar, and word count. I would suspect what he does is get his information for the sites together and write all of them in Word through out the week and simply posts them all at once. You are right on the account that his reviews look somewhat alike. So do mine. After doing a handful of reviews we all develop a certain style. We a re creatures of habit, plus we might like out style. Besides, it makes it easier for people to find what they are looking for if they know who certain reviews format their reviews. For example, if you want to a general idea on how big a site is and the ease of downloading, you check out my reviews. That is a topic I discuss in pretty much all my reviews anymore. We all are a little different in our style and key points, but we are not going to reinvent our style for each review. Beyond the accusation of Roseman and the other top guys, and beyond the raffle, you are still winning. You get to come to a free site and suck up the knowledge of people who have spent good money and time checking sites out and writing the reviews. This effort saves many people from making expensive mistakes and helps people find sites they love that they normal would have skipped over. Just stop being a sore loser. If you want to win the raffle participate more. TheRizzo has the same amount of tickets as you and has won $200. Oh and yes, I do expect an apology to everyone, particularly the PU staff and the top five winners, the instant you would happen to win a raffle. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 09-10-08 12:13pm - 5909 days | #11 | |
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williamj (0)
Active User Posts: 102 Registered: Sep 29, '07 Location: usa |
Honestly I couldn't tell you how the Raffle works because I can care less about it. My point was people that post a lot of reviews that are generic in many ways win money. Your not going to tell me that the top PU posters don't submit reviews at the level they do because they are altruistic. 8 reviews in 7 days to me seem very suspect? And Roseman is not the only PU member that falls in this category. Do a little research and check out the top volume posters and you'll understand better what I'm implying. Many other reviews that are submitted by others are great and I appreciate them. Why, because they don?t fall into the cookie cutter template that seems to be prevalent. Check out Drooler's winnings. He's won every month the past 9 months except in March. In fact he's won twice a month every month. How is that possible? If you want to know check out his profile page and look at some of his reviews and the dates. No one joins six web sites in less than 45 days. Why would you? It takes a good 30 days to fully appreciate one site. Will Edited on Sep 10, 2008, 12:41pm (williamj: grammer) | |
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| 09-10-08 01:14pm - 5909 days | #12 | |
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roseman (0)
Suspended  Posts: 29 Registered: Jan 15, '07 Location: Toronto, Canada |
williamj, I have read your posts very carefully and I think that I have to say a few words ... First of all, at my opinion, you TOTALLY missunderstood PornUsers.com community aim. I can not say why but it is so obvious. Secondly, you should accept that some people maybe because they are richer than you or even prefer to join more adult websites than you post more reviews than you in here. It would be good to give someone a negative vote when he postes untrue facts about a site and not because you don't like the amount of reviews that he do in a period of time. Thirdly, it would be nice to respect the way that every Porn User does his reviews in here. To talk about myself, I focus on the technical side, that's why as you said, and I will not argue with you, my reviews look similar to each other. I do that because it is impossible every man to have the same tastes in porn. I mostly care about DRM, download limits, ZIP and videos quality. But that's my opinion so thats why my reviews contain these information. Forthly, you should respect top users in here. I saw that you check people's profiles, which is not bad, and then you make comments like '' why he won '' etc. For me this is pretty bad, because some people's excellent work in here as exotics4me, SnowDude, nygiants03, Drooler, Denner and LOTS of others should be rewarded. Lastly, it would be cool to try to improve your reviews and stop rating adult websites while not adding reviews than attacking PornUsers.com and it's community. Thanks for your comments. '' Velvet Roses In My Way '' Edited on Sep 10, 2008, 01:27pm | |
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| 09-10-08 01:35pm - 5909 days | #13 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Some of why reviews may sound cookie cutter is that we all have things we look for in a website. If you care about some particular point and comment on that, that should not be criticised. For example, I usually use a pro if a site uses CCBill because of bad experiences with other billing companies. I think this can be important, but we all have things that we like and other sites may have things we don't like. It may sound a lot like the same review over and over, but we are all human and act similarly over and over in our opinions. I think most of us think about our reviews and try our best to be objective as well as complete. Except for those who hardly post, most reviews are very helpful and objective. | |
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| 09-10-08 04:18pm - 5909 days | #14 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Williamj. It is not unheard of to join 6 sites in 45 days. You are only talking about a site per week. I can download a good sized site in a week. I pull about 220 GB a month and there are huge amounts of sites that are not that large. A relatively new site might be 10 GB and could be downloaded and reviewed fully in less than a day. It is these sites that need to be reviewed anyway. How many more reviews of VideoBox do we need (sorry to anyone who was planning on reviewing them). I like seeing a good amount of reviews of these smaller, newer sites that are uncharted territories for us. Roseman, you know you have my vote. Keep them coming. As for the raffle, when I first started reviewing and became fairly active here I won 5 times in 6 weeks. And I still win something about once a month. If you really feel that some of our reviews are no good then ask us some questions about the site. Tell us what yo are looking for. Or better yet, start doing a little more reviewing yourself. I just specifically checked several of Roseman's reviews. They really do not seem to be cookie cutter to me. He has them jam-packed with good information from many sites that I have already been to and agree with what he says. I think it is time to let this go, you are making an ass of yourself. There really is no need to attack each other, especially after you say you are not interested in the raffle anyway. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 09-10-08 07:06pm - 5909 days | #15 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User  Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
Your rating of my reviews, "Gives it straight, no bull reviews" Being that I am one of the top 5 PU posters, you now post a thread that you laugh because you know what my reviews will say? That is called consistency from review to review. My goal in writing a review is to let the reader know these things, do the pictures come in zips? What is the highest resolution of the pictures? What is the bitrate of the movies? What is the resolution of the movies? How are the download speeds? How much content is there? Is there a discount or is the price acceptable without a discount? So, yeah, most of my reviews will read the same, except the numbers will be different. I'm really not even for sure how a good review could sound much different than another good review. But I do agree that something seems strange with some PUs these days, there is a lot more whining and moaning than there used to be. As for the PU raffle winners, though I am tied as the top winner, I have only won 2 times since March. At one time, say the first 7 months of the raffle, there were weeks were only 6 or 7 members had tickets. Which is why you see SnowDude at #3 in the raffle winnings, even though it has been a long time since he last reviewed a site. I've always looked at the raffle as something to have fun with. When I do win, I take the Amazon certificate and either buy some new cds or a video game with it or a new hard drive to download more porn onto. As for how could anyone afford this many sites, as a Psychologist, I can write off about 75% of my subscription costs as sociological influenced research for my patients that have sexual issues. If you will take a look at my reviews, the information in those are not available in any review site, as the amount of content is up to date with the day I review the site, only a member that has access to the members area would know the amount of content on that day. Last, your use of bold letters on the part about the same people winning the raffles explains why you are mad. Not to mention taking shots at people you don't know. Sorry william, but there was no reason for you to do this. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 09-10-08 07:31pm - 5909 days | #16 | |
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williamj (0)
Active User Posts: 102 Registered: Sep 29, '07 Location: usa |
Let me put this in bold letters for those people who for some reason don't get it. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE RAFFLE OR THE MONEY. Thats the truth. Read what I'm saying and remove the blinders. I did my research and my comments and observations are sound and I stand by them. Will Edited on Sep 10, 2008, 07:35pm (williamj: it will focus on something I want to avoid from the beginning) | |
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| 09-10-08 07:32pm - 5909 days | #17 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Really now william. It this worth voting against people now. You are not going to "trust" roseman over this, and myself simply because I disagree with you. In the trust comment you left me you call me out on high volume of reviews in a short period. I have not wrote a review in several weeks now and I still won the raffle! I just got $100 and did not even write a review. Besides, it is not like if you do not win you are losing something. It is not money that can be counted on to pay the bills or something. It just makes things fun and gives us something to look forward to on Tuesday evening. If I was worried about raffle tickets and that is all, why the hell would I be posting in here!?!? Gee, because it is fun and sometimes I can offer help or suggestions to people, and I get no money for that. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 09-10-08 11:53pm - 5908 days | #18 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I won $100 two weeks ago. look at my postings they are good and look the same in places. I have a pattern to my review as well. I recently had a question about how a person rated a site, but not the review. Or how they did a review. But I respected the persons right to place that review. In turn thats the same William , you have to respect others here. I do not obviously agree with others review. And if i feel strongly I can make a small comment over it. But I must say I won $100.00 and never expected to win, I do a review oh , say every week or so. And lol I am not even in the top 100 posters. So this therory is just silly. There is no way I should have won if it as you say it is. So why I think it nice the top 5 ppl responded to you, ummm I am not in the top 5 or 100 and I won the top prize two weeks ago. That is why I strongly disagree that you think that they are giving repetitive posts and in turn getting more raffles winning I won, thanks TOP 5, ( even exotics4me ) whom I commented on in review. And whom I watch and use some of the top 5 as templates to a pattern to use. These guys have great advice. God man these ppl show you how to get noticed and give a good review. Just follow the leader. Shit they must be something right, and so am I since I won and my reviews look very similar to theirs. William, let me ask you, would you go to a Gun show and talk with the newbie with a shiny gun, or the old timer with 20 years in? And ask whom knows thier shit best. Cybertoad. Since 2007 | |
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| 09-11-08 04:05am - 5908 days | #19 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
William, maybe it just me, but why do you think you GET IT and we don't? By looking at your first post in this thread, the only thing there that could be a problem is that you were upset about the raffle winnings. Are you upset because our reviews sound like the ones on all other review sites? That should tell you that there really isn't any other way to review a porn site. Rabbit's reviews sounds similar to TBP reviews, as does Richard's Realm and every other review site. So why are you upset? The only thing I can possibly take from what you said in the original post besides a problem with the raffle winnings, is that you think there is corruption here. You really aren't being any more clear than that, than to leave it to us to try and figure out what set you off. Is there not a way to explain it better? I really have no idea what "take your blinders off" means, unless of course, you are again, saying corruption. At this point, your comments and observations have been nothing but vague opinions that you came to conclusion on, without explaining how you can to those conclusions. I really would like to understand what you are saying. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 09-11-08 11:23am - 5908 days | #20 | |
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mr smut (0)
Active User  Posts: 107 Registered: Dec 27, '07 Location: Germany |
Dear williamj, just to let you know that I joined that many sites since Sunday. And believe it or not I could write reviews on each and every site :-) SC1 Skye UK - http://www.southern-charms.com/skyeuk/main.htm SC4 KimsHeels - http://www.southern-charms4.com/kimsheels/main.htm Petites Pariesiennes - petites-parisiennes.com Paul Markham Teens - paulmarkhamteens.com Xisty ? xisty.com SC4 Double Dee - http://www.southern-charms4.com/doubledee/main.htm Cheers, Smut Edited by Staff on Sep 11, 2008, 11:58am (Khan: corrected URL's) | |
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| 09-11-08 11:48am - 5908 days | #21 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Careful Mr Smut, he might vote against you because you "join to many sites" and might actually know what you are talking about. Xisty.com was a good site by the way. Just make sure you only write one review per month, otherwise it would simply have to be considered bogus. Just kidding Mr Smut. Show us what you have found there, and use a nice, familiar review format. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 09-11-08 12:04pm - 5908 days | #22 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Joking aside, can you provide us with details of this insight you claim to have. Tell us what you know, if you present it civilly we will give it consideration. But in return we are only asking that you consider our side of this issue and go back to the reviews and look at them objectively keeping in mind what we have said so far. I hope I am not asking too much here. If for some reason you believe I am pulling my reviews out of the air I would be glad to provide you with a list of sites I have actually joined and when. It is many more than I have actually done reviews for. I currently have about 13 TB of porn and that number grows by about 900 GB per month. So to do this I have to join a good deal of sites: therefore, I have a good deal of sites that I can review. Actually I have not reviewed many of the sites I have joined simply because it is time consuming. Many of us review network sites, those will be very similar to each other. This is a simple result of the same people making the different sites. There is no rule against this and there should not be. Each of these sites is a little different. Someone interested one particular site on the network would like to be able to read a review that is specific to that site, and likely would not like to assume that the reviews for the other sites would apply to the site they are looking at. Round and Brown and Big Naturals are similar sites on the same network, there for the way the site is formatted and presented is extremely similar. But the content and the amount of content is different, therefore warranting a separate review. Each of these sites has strong and weak points and a reader should be able to read reviews for each site by the same reviewer. Since the reviews would read about the same it is easy to see the differences between each site. Some sites charge differently if someone wants only one site or the whole network, and this would be very important to them. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 09-11-08 01:00pm - 5908 days | #23 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I am currently reviewing 9 sites William all part of Fantasy Girl network ( main site CatalinaCruz.com ) No there are model sites, BG sites Lez sites and grouping and I will have to give each site a review. They vary even in quality but have similarities like Badany400 said. But in week or less you will see 5-9 straight reviews from me. And each one is different. Now I am spending time writting this in word to copy paste each review its easier to write notes so it will post all in just hours or days of each other. Hope I do not get a bad trust rating either. Since 2007 | |
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| 09-11-08 01:14pm - 5908 days | #24 | |
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mr smut (0)
Active User Posts: 107 Registered: Dec 27, '07 Location: Germany |
The review for Petites Parisiennes is online already and this was quite easy because of the simple design and small amount of content (about 3.3GB) until now. Not sure if I want to write about Paul Markham Teens but want to review Xisty :-) As for Southern Charms I think it's not possible to review any site of this amateur network at pornusers.com | |
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| 09-11-08 01:44pm - 5908 days | #25 | |
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wiild1 (0)
Unverified User Posts: 52 Registered: Apr 14, '07 Location: UK |
exotics4me: as a Psychologist you must realize that you have a porn addiction/obsession? It can not be healthy consuming the amount of porn that you do. You might get cred from us other pornusers for all reviews but seriously: Get help. "as a Psychologist, I can write off about 75% of my subscription costs as sociological influenced research for my patients that have sexual issues." | |
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| 09-11-08 01:53pm - 5908 days | #26 | |
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wiild1 (0)
Unverified User Posts: 52 Registered: Apr 14, '07 Location: UK |
I must agree with williamj to some extent, but for slightly different reasons: I think it's unhealthy for any person to join and review too many porn sites a year: if you consume more than let's say 20 big sites a year, you become more machine-like and probably obsessed with posting loads of reviews and getting cred from your fellow pornuser members. I am currently member of two porn sites and I think that's probbaly too much to be healthy! :-) I think we all would write better reviews and be happier human beiing if we would limit our porn consumpton to let's say 10hours a week and max 1 review per week!? :-) | |
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| 09-11-08 02:31pm - 5908 days | #27 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
I believe the Porn Users community deserves a pat on the back for how civil people have remained so far. Most forums would have quickly degenerated into a flame war with a topic as polarizing as this. So congratulations to all. I will admit, even I found my hackles raising a bit on this topic - but I shall continue with as much of an air of civility as I can muster. williamj has a specific point but I believe, despite his best efforts, has failed in properly conveying it to the populace at large. Not surprisingly his first post (and many of his following posts) lead people to believe he was irate at the distribution of the monetary remuneration for time spent in the community. The raffle is designed as an incentive to spend time on the site; is easy to conclude it would be a sore point for those that haven't had winnings from it. However, he has stated many times that he wasn't concerned about his lack of winnings. So I conclude that he believes other users are not providing adequate reviews and the cause of this is they are trying to stack the odds in their favor for winning the raffle. I have discussed my personal beliefs about what reviews should contain in great length in another thread. Instead, I would first like to focus on one distinct flaw in his argument. He pointed out the volume of reviews some of our top contributors make. Specifically citing roseman's 8 reviews in 7 days. I know roseman to be a thorough reviewer, so it goes to reason that each of his reviews are rated by the Porn User Administrators to be "excellent". To see what qualifies a review as excellent, please visit their Feedback Points page. Now an "excellent" review will earn a user 3 raffle tickets. However, to keep things in balance, it has been decided that a user may only earn 10 tickets per week from reviews. That means that roseman need only to write 4 "excellent" reviews in order to earn his 10 tickets, thereby making the extra 4 reviews superfluous. I conclude that ticket earning is not what motivates roseman. That being at the heart of williamj's argument throws much of his contention off balance. So, with the raffle is evil argument out the window, let us focus more on williamj's discontent with the state of the reviews being produced by our most prolific reviewers. One discrepancy that immediately caught my eye is this statement of his: "They include alot [sic] of information, the same information you can get from The Best Porn or from other review sites." The largest problem with this statement is it stipulates that Porn Users is not an independent and self sufficient review site. Even if the listed facts were entire replications of facts available on other sites, it would not matter - for despite Porn User's kinship with The Best Porn, it is a site designed to stand on its own and it certainly has no affiliation with any other review site other than The Best Porn. The statement presents Porn Users as an accessory to real review sites - implying that opinions are only what need be presented here because a user would be foolish to expect all the facts they need to make an informed purchase be present on this site. This indicates a severe deviation from the consensus of many in this community. That consensus is that Porn Users is not only a thorough and independent review site, but that it is in fact superior than other review sites due to its diverse and plentiful reviewers and its vast coverage of new and unusual sites. Many of us would argue that it is superior to even the mighty The Best Porn. In regards to that, let us look at the "site information" that williamj stipulates is available on The Best Porn compared to what is available on Porn Users. Often, Porn Users will have a more up-to-date site facts listing, despite The Best Porn updating site facts more frequently than they post reviews. Lets look at a recent review from mr smut, Petites Parisiennes (9/10/08) and the complimenting The Best Porn page, focusing on the site facts (updated 7/24/08). This is what we know from The Best Porn: Galleries: 83+ (avg. 100 pics each), high res yes, model index yes, small & large pics yes, zip files yes, watermarks yes and small. Videos: 12+ Videos (min. per video varies), full scenes no, multi-bandwidth no, vid caps no, watermarks no. Updates: no update logs, no content dates, updates schedule unknown. Vid Format: DivX, 1100k, 1200 x 700, downloadable, No DRM, actual movie size is 1024x756. Exclusivity: 100% DL Limit: None. Other: 8 models, bios. Now mr smut's did not include the following things: Download Limit, Exclusivity, video bit rate, or the number of videos or galleries. However, he did tell us there are now 11 models (an indication of why current information is important), that the resolution of the video 1024x576 (likely to be more accurate than the Best Porn as that makes for a perfect 16:9 aspect ratio), that the updates aren't always on time, that pictures have a long dimension of 1000 to 2000 pixels, that the download speed is capable of greater than 500kbps, that some sets were as small as 50 photos, that the models ranged between 18 and 26 years of age, and that the bio notes were thorough (measurements, piercings, tattoos, et cetera). That is a considerable amount of information that was not included on the Best Porn's page and if we stipulate that users should not put site information in their reviews, we will lose that potential resource. Now I've been inferring quite a bit about the intention of williamj and his comments and I'm going to have to keep doing that because unfortunately his comments aren't quite as clear as he seems to believe. What I believe to be the main complaint is that he does not feel our most prolific reviewers are providing enough opinion and are focusing far too much on fact. In this matter, I would have to say that he has a leg to stand on because I personally have battled this issue in my own reviews. I put a very large amount of priority on collecting site facts thoroughly and accurately while preparing for a site review. It is one of the reasons I write reviews so infrequently. However, getting all those site facts in while leaving space for a proper opinion piece can be difficult. To this end I usually decree that I must included as few facts as possible in the Bottom Line, thusly regulating the fact portion of the review to the Pros & Cons. A common theme that I've seen repeated is that the Porn Users community is one of an ever present self depreciating tone that disinclines users to state their opinions loudly with the exception of a numeric score. An oft heard comment is "everybody has their own tastes". Truth be told, a good reviewer needs to be a confident, self-righteous bastard that will stand up and say "I'm right, I know what is right and this is what I think." Most of our users are too polite to do that. williamj also complains about generic and repetitive reviews. There are two explanations of this. First is that the reviewer could be using a form letter style approach to avoid missing crucial topics in their review. I use a "cheat sheet" for my Pros & Cons. Sadly, the second and more likely reason is that the sites they are reviewing are generic and repetitive. Network sites are the worst offenders here. Rather than have one large, well organized network site - they make a number of child sites that pretend to stand on their own. They can be hard to distinguish from each other as they all share the same base design and creative input. The Brazzer's Network is a fine example. Trying to review each site is an easy way to drive one to desperation. I tried and quit - it simply wasn't worth the time involved to review each site. So perhaps williamj's dissatisfaction is misfocused. Perhaps it isn't the reviewers but the sites that need a kick in the pants. In the end, this is all conjecture. I hope in the future, williamj may approach topics with a bit more tact, understanding that users can have different priorities and methodology. For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day. I personally have no need for such quantity of porn, but if I had an unlimited budget, I could easily see myself joining 10 sites in a month or more. If you count network sites, I've already done this many times. I tend to explore sites I'm interested in quite thoroughly - especially before posting a review - but that is my style. I usually need that much time to formulate an opinion; other users require less time, I do not believe their opinions any less valid. williamj asks "...5 reviews in ... 24 hours? How's that possible[?]" and I would answer, "With 5 hours of continuous work." I have done that in the past, I won't say it is easy, but it is extremely possible. I suppose my overall story arc in this novelette is that discussions like this need to be stated clearly and thoroughly. My first urge was to say concisely but I shouldn't practice in hypocrisy as my arguments are rarely concise. Yet illuminating your argument with careful language and good illustration will give birth to better discussions with less animosity garnered from the community. I fear williamj has made a few enemies when he could have started another lively discussion about the responsibilities of the reviewers and the websites. In the end I hope this thread can still be worthwhile. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 09-11-08 03:01pm - 5908 days | #28 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, Toadsith, for giving me a well-deserved (if unintentional) kick in the pants because that's exactly what I tend to do. I'm so afraid that my review might cost someone $29.95 that I tend to come across almost apologetic for liking things that a younger generation (the majority) seems to dislike, and it shows in some of my reviews. PU watch out, self-righteous and confident it will be from now on. :-) So, for me, your post made the thread indeed worthwhile. | |
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| 09-11-08 03:07pm - 5908 days | #29 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Haha, glad to have been of assistance :-) I must admit that I am as much an offender as anybody in that department when writing reviews. Of course, I haven't written a review in so long that people may wonder if I even write reviews. I'm looking forward to the increased space given for the Bottom Line, haven't used it yet - but hopefully I'll be able to present some solid, recognizable opinions in the future. As everybody knows, I need that extra space, hell - I ran out of room with the 10,000 character limit in the last post - had to edit it down to fit, lol. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 09-11-08 06:13pm - 5908 days | #30 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Toadsith: "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." I am honored. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 09-11-08 11:12pm - 5907 days | #31 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Hail King Andy :-) Since 2007 | |
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| 09-12-08 06:43am - 5907 days | #32 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
How is it possible? Because it is possible. All anyone has to do is post one approved comment and it becomes possible for them to win that week. As for your saying that "no one joins six web sites in 45 days," well, seeing as how I did, someone does. You have reality staring you right in the face and you just deny it. Why would you do that? And it doesn't take 30 days to fully appreciate a site. What a lot of nonsense that is. People have different opinions about it. You act as if yours has made a transformation into irrefutable fact. My opinion is that it depends on the site as to how long it takes. Exotics4me said that there's a lot more whining and moaning here than there used to be, and I've noticed that, too. But your petty whining and finger pointing about how much certain people win the raffles along with your duplicitous denial that you even care about them really takes the cake. So I don't know what your problem is, but you've not done yourself any good by what you've done here. There's a slang term from the '70's and '80's that I think is due for a comeback: jive turkey. And you can lead the way, williamj. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 09-12-08 09:41am - 5907 days | #33 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Excellent word - I like that word and really should use it more :-) "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 09-12-08 07:26pm - 5907 days | #34 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
When I write a review, I know that other users might want to know certain things: 1. Whether there are zip files or not 2. The dimensions of the photos and their quality 3. The dimensions of the videos and their quality 4. The frequency of updates 5. Whether the content is exclusive or not ... Well, I could go on, but the point is that the same kind of information is needed in reviews of porn sites. Every site will have pics and/or vids and other features in common. So you're accusing people of being efficient in their quest to be informative. What a terrible, terrible sin! Looking at the sites themselves, I suppose you could say that a lot them use "cookie cutter templates," too. In fact, it's obvious that they reuse html and other code when they post something new, but they forget to remove image placeholders at the end, resulting in X's where thumbs were put during previous use. Sometimes they even forget to change the model's name or the title of the gallery. It's sloppy webmastering -- something I tend to point out in my reviews -- but at least they're reusing code and not writing every page from the ground up. Again, they're being "sinfully" efficient. And you see nothing in the comments from other users to contradict your opinion? That's an argument? What do you see that supports your opinion? Opinions require support, not lack of contradiction. And it's not because someone agrees with your opinion anyway. A valid opinion is based on facts and the sound judgement to know what to do with those facts. And this judgement is where you're lacking, very sorely lacking. You're unable to discern the difference between the form and the content of a user's review. "Think before you speak" is good advice, but in your case, it doesn't apply, because it's apparent that you haven't even learned how to think. Instead, you've just busybodied yourself around other user's profiles like an old fuddyduddy trying to find fault with the way they write reviews. I suppose that we could write our reviews in different formats every time and then someone would whine about how inconsistent we are in the way we present the same kind of information. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 09-12-08 10:20pm - 5907 days | #35 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
Strange, I thought the same thing about, "jive turkey"! My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 09-12-08 11:03pm - 5907 days | #36 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
Wiild1, there are several things that I want to say in reply to your post. First, for one person to be able to understand and know another person, their obsessions and addictions, would not be possible from reading reviews by that person. I mean that in the nicest way. Second, I do have an obsession to some extent. To say I need help for it, is wrong. I live a financially comfortable life with my wife, so my obsession isn't causing my family to go broke. I do not hide this obsession from my wife, she even enjoys the porn as well, most of it. So, I am not damaging my relationships over this obsession and this obsession does not stop me from being in sound mind or stop me from being successful in my profession and daily life. Outside of porn, I love college football, I also am a big fan of Mixed Martial Arts. I have a deep desire to learn and understand my ancestry, as I never knew anyone in my family except my mom and dad, never knew cousins, no siblings, no grandparents, and I read from 2-4 hours per week on the history of my races/nationalities. Even at my age in my early 30s, I still like video games as I find them relaxing. I am an ex-college football player, I still workout 5 days a week, and as can be seen by some of my posts, I love to laugh and enjoy anything humorous. Most of all, I am a motivational speaker, 3 days per week, with high school students about how not to fall into addictions, whether for drugs, sex, violence, food, etc... Porn takes up about 5% of my day, the other 95% is full of very positive situations. Addiction is something that consumes the majority of your day. While it is true that I do obsess over some porn, I want you to see what I obsess over. Eve Angel, Sophie Moone, Sandra Shine, Aneta Keys, Aria Giovanni, for about half of my model list that I search out content of. Each of these women represent something. A highly confident, beautiful woman. They aren't in the violent hardcore, the violent fetishes. Everything about them is about the beauty of woman, from their sets in pantyhose to their sets that all alone, they are able to play with themselves on camera. My interests in niche content is limited for myself to pantyhose/glam/short skirts/butts. There is nothing there that is unhealthy for a normal man to enjoy. If you will notice that a lot of the sites I join are DVD/Network sites that have multiple niches available. Those do go into helping me with my job. If I have patient who comes in and says, "I am obsessed with a woman peeing on me" that is something, most Psychologists are going to write off as, "Into self-abuse" where as me, I have watched a few scenes of the pee porn, and now at least can relate to the patient and not judge or diagnose them based on a generalization that other Psychologists have decided to label those who are into a sexual fetish. Last, if someone would make a site that had my 10 favorite models on it, and had daily updates of one of them, I would never join another site again. As it is, I am left to search out content of those 10, and in between, I add the niches to make me a better Psychologist. The key word being "better" I am gaining no negativity from viewing porn, so why would I need help? It would be like saying that Dr. so-so with 12 degrees needs help because he keeps going back to college, but he really doesn't need help, he is improving himself and making himself more knowledgeable, excessively, sure, but it is a positive change. I seriously mean this, thanks for your concern, and I hope this post explains a little more about my use of porn as a positive tool in my life. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk Edited on Sep 12, 2008, 11:06pm | |
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| 09-13-08 12:57am - 5906 days | #37 | |
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wiild1 (0)
Unverified User Posts: 52 Registered: Apr 14, '07 Location: UK |
Hi exotics4me, very interesting to read about your life and usage of porn, of course I do not fully understand your obsession/addiction, I just draw conclusion from your activities here on this site: you must be an exception in the way you can handle an obsessive comsumption of vaste amounts of porn at the same time as having a balanced life. When you speak about obsession and addiction as a motivational speaker, do you admit to the audience that you are obsessed with porn and that you have been a paying member of 150 porn sites in the last year or so? We could compare your situation to a person that have consumed 150 2litre bottles of $30 vodka over the last year, claiming that he is not addicted as he easily can afford the $4500 it cost him; of course it's not addiction: his wife sometimes enjoy a drink with him and he wakes up every morning at 8 to go to work. Is he an alcoholic? Can you imagine him being a leader/motivational speaker at an AA meeting and then go home to drink a couple of glasses of vodka? | |
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| 09-13-08 03:58am - 5906 days | #38 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I don't see how this contrived comparison to alcohol consumption has any true relevance. Addiction or at least heavy consumption is the only way in which porn and alcohol would have anything in common. Otherwise, it's a spurious comparison. The trouble I'm having with Wiild1's statements and questions here is what motivates him to make exotics4me into a target. He's playing a game of "I'll accuse you of something and put you on the defensive while not having to explain myself as to why I'm doing it." It's pretty one-sided and self-serving if you ask me. I wouldn't have said this before his most recent post to exotics4me. The first one (#25) seemed to possibly show genuine concern, but now he's turning contentious about it and seems determined to serve some kind of indictment. So, Wiild1, what's your beef? Is it really so hard for you to handle the fact that not everyone lives according to the parameters that you set for youself? It's fine for you to decide for yourself the amount of porn consumption that's healthy and the number of subscriptions per X time period that crosses the line into "unhealthy." But just how healthy is your intolerance of other people crossing that line, and even going way past it? You're getting worked up about something that doesn't even affect you. So there's something that's pushing your buttons that you haven't yet explained. This is a site about porn, after all. There are people here who are pretty heavily into it. It shouldn't be all that surprising. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 09-13-08 04:16am - 5906 days | #39 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
Hey Drooler, I also thought the original post was sincere, which is why I tried to explain in the most well thought out way as possible. I will reply to his most recent one, and maybe then he will realize how bad his reply back was. Thanks for this post. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 09-13-08 04:53am - 5906 days | #40 | |||
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
You are not supposed to fully understand my usage of porn, that is why it called, "my" usage of porn. Why do you draw conclusions about others? It is obvious now that your post was not made in sincere concern, it is more commonly known as a "bait" post. For me to be an exception, you would need to show proof of the majority of porn fans not being able to handle their porn. Otherwise, you're assuming again and thinking that you know how everyone is. Last on this paragraph, if I said 5% of my day is porn and you call that, "obsessive consumption" what do you call the other 95%?
This paragraph to me is the perfect reason that you shouldn't assume and draw conclusions about others. First, I said it was high school students. A good portion are underage. My speaking to them, all from the inner city of Los Angeles, is about not becoming obsessed with the gang lifestyle that plagues Los Angeles and that we lose nearly 1,000 kids under 18 to, every year. It is to give them hope, because I was from those same streets and I made it out without obsessing over violence/revenge, without getting addicted to drugs, using and selling, and without the obsession for power/money that runs through those streets. The last thing on their mind is whether I use porn, they want to know how to get out alive.
There is one major difference here. If a person drank that much alcohol, they would most likely have some kind of damage to their body, which would be a negative that their obsession/addiction caused. Now, show me a negative mine causes. Which you wouldn't have even posted that if you read my above reply when I said there is no damage of any kind from porn obsession in my life. The other problem here, you ask could I imagine him being a leader at AA, I'm not a motivational speaker at porn addicts meetings. My best advice to you is to worry about your own issues, not mine. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |||
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| 09-13-08 05:22am - 5906 days | #41 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
I would agree with this (for the most part) and 2nd the pat on the back. I'll add that I hope that the ongoing discussion will continue in the same vein. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 09-13-08 06:23am - 5906 days | #42 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
1-It's unusual to say that you do not fully understand is obsession, but are still able to draw a conclusion. Wouldn't the fact that you do not understand it make it near impossible to make a proper conclusion. 2-I'm curious doctor to know if you would you have said the same thing if for instance exotics4me was obssessed with collecting Steiff stuffed animals? 3-Since you want to use alcohol, then let me put this thought forward. What if exotics4me is not a major consummer of alcohol, but instead a collector of wines. Although he may spend great amounts of money on the acquiring of these wines. It doesn't translate that he has to consume them all immediately. I know quite a few people that enjoy a couple of glasses of wine with their dinner. I wouldn't necessarily call them alcoholics Having read many of exotics4me's post I gather that he's more a collector than anything else. Is he more rabid than some, maybe, but that is probably because he can afford it. Long live the Brown Coats. Edited on Sep 13, 2008, 06:29am | |
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| 09-13-08 09:46am - 5906 days | #43 | |
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wiild1 (0)
Unverified User Posts: 52 Registered: Apr 14, '07 Location: UK |
1: I have never met exotics4me, so of course I can't draw any proper conclusions about him. I might be wrong. 2: No. I's culturally acceptable and kinda cute collecting stuffed animals, but being member of 150 porn paysites in a year is more.....creepy...more obsessive, nothing you would tell your mother or mention in a job-interview. 3: I get your point, but I would compare being member of 150 porn paysites in a year to perhaps buying 10 bottles of wine a day and drink 3 of them: he is still an alcoholic! | |
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| 09-13-08 11:55am - 5906 days | #44 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User  Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
Interesting that williamj has stopped posting (his last was post #11 and this one is #44). Candidly this discussion is fascinating because it demonstrates a number of important characteristics about PU that I find terrific. The most important ones are: - The members are, by and large, intelligent and mature fans of porn on the web and are willing to discuss their interests openly and effectively. - The civility on this forum is amazing and very much appreciated. - The writing of good reviews is not the easiest thing to do but the reviews are the backbone of the site. The effort taken by so many people to write effective and informative reviews is especially good, because the primary motivation, contrary to williamj's assertion, is to provide good information to people with similar interests. Thanks, williamj, for starting this discussion. I suspect it didn't develop in the direction you expected (wanted?) it to, but it has been an interesting read. | |
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| 09-13-08 03:33pm - 5906 days | #45 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
So happens I am a Drug and Alcohol counselor, and why I am not Gods gift to addictions I see it day in and out. Is porn and addiction? Simple answer is NO! Is spending allot on porn make you a addict ? Answer again NO! If you are an addict you can be addicted to anything. I know guys that willl spend there hole froeaking check to spend on sports, mind you these guys are not EVER going to make it big time or even minors. They spend thousands on bigscreens and DVD football shows and recliners and spend hours in winter watching sports on PPV and other pay channels. Are they addicts ? NO. A addict is a person whom ca not thinbk of anything else except finding time, money and the key here is at ANY expense to make that event drug, or porn happen. But the object its self does not make you and addict. Any more then going to Church makes you religious or spiritual. Addiction is a heart and mind thing. If your passion in life is ONLY porn then ya you might have a problem. I mean if you eat, drink sleep porn, wow Id worry. But having a HUGE collection doesnt make you and addict if you can not life without that collection that does. Hope this helps clear things up. I am not and expert, but I deal with ppl only two days earlier had a needle sticking out thier arm, so pretty sure I have an idea what makes and addict. Again just my two cents of course. But I do not see anyone i've met on PU that was an addict, aleast not in the clincal term. Cybertoad Since 2007 | |
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| 09-13-08 05:51pm - 5906 days | #46 | |
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elonlybuster (0)
Active User Posts: 52 Registered: Aug 24, '08 Location: Georgia |
There are quite a few porn forums that have downloads of material on the site(s) or even lists of logins to websites. So I wouldn't doubt that some members are using those to get access and review websites. Didn't feel like replying about the whole intro thread but I don't doubt a few people are using those, but I do not like how some people write crap reviews and get credit. I'll even be the first to admit that I've written a bad review BUT after getting a comment that it could have been better I went back and bettered it. | |
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| 09-14-08 01:19am - 5905 days | #47 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
Pat, #3 says it better than I did. I have one 750 GB Hard Drive that has around 300 GB of zip/rar files that have not been extracted. One day I will look at them. Really there is only one model that I go all out for and that is Eve Angel. I readily admit that I join sites just to get 2 new picture sets of her. Thanks for putting that in better words than I did. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 09-14-08 02:24am - 5905 days | #48 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
Probably should also add here that your number is pretty far off. Looking back at my reviews, going back to the 3rd week of September of last year, which would be a year. I have 80 reviews, not 150. Of those 80, just at a glance between 15-20 are part of networks. Which would have me joining 60 sites since last year. I've been reviewing here since March 2007, with the first dozen or so being sites I had been on before March. I think that shows a pretty big difference from what you are saying. Last on this, one thing to also remember is that we are from two very different areas of the world. Most of my life is spent in California or Florida, two very liberal states when it comes it to nudity and porn. California even had a porn star running for governor a few years back. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 09-14-08 07:27am - 5905 days | #49 | |
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asmith12 (0)
Active User Posts: 79 Registered: Oct 17, '07 |
You shall consider several things: 1. About membership fees. Most of such "mass" reviews are made within the same network, so per/site cost is minimal. 2. It is common for somebody to write review on his "past" sites soon after joining. So 10-20 reviews are fairly common in the first month or so. Doesn't apply to top reviewers, but can easily explain 5 sites in a week for the others. 3. Most of the sites are indeed very similar. That's not a PU problem, but problem of adult industry as a whole. And if writing a review for not so unique site, it will be inevitably close to the other reviews of similar sites. P.S. Just curious - do you count me personally among those guys who's reviews fall into "A lot of nothing" category? Motto: "All niches except for boring one!" | |
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| 09-14-08 07:39am - 5905 days | #50 | |
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asmith12 (0)
Active User Posts: 79 Registered: Oct 17, '07 |
BTW, guys, what about revoking mistrust reviews which resulted from this thread (from both sides)? If I get it correctly, trust rating shall be about trusting reviews, not posts on forums. Clarification: I didn't mean to ask PU administrators to do it, I've meant to ask williamj , Drooler, roseman, badandy to revoke their negative trust comments as long as they're based on this thread only, not on reviews. Motto: "All niches except for boring one!" Edited on Sep 14, 2008, 08:51am (asmith12: Clarification added) | |
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