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| 05-31-17 10:42pm - 2761 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
BEST BUY EMPLOYEES SPY FOR FBI DURING COMPUTER REPAIRS ONE DOCTOR WAS CHARGED AFTER GEEK SQUAD EMPLOYEES ALLEGEDLY FOUND AN ILLICIT IMAGE DURING REPAIRS ON HIS COMPUTER. NO WARRANT FOR THE SEARCH. ONE IMAGE? YOU BRING IN YOUR COMPUTER FOR REPAIRS TO BEST BUY, YOU MIGHT END UP IN JAIL, IF YOUR COMPUTER HAS ANY PORN IMAGES ON IT. ======== ======== Privacy group sues to find out more about FBI relationship with Best Buy employees who detected illegal content during computer repairs Susan Seager May 31, 2017 @ 8:04 PM The Justice Department was sued Wednesday by a privacy group seeking information on the FBI’s alleged recruitment of Best Buy employees to search consumer computers for child pornography during repairs. The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the Trump administration’s Justice Department, demanding access to records about any FBI training and payment to Geek Squad workers to search customer computers without a court warrant. At issue isn’t the criminality of child pornography or efforts to stop the exploitation of children by sexual predators. EFF is concerned that the FBI may be violating the constitutional requirement that law enforcement agencies obtain judge-approved search warrants, based on evidence there is probable cause of a crime, to search computers. “Informants who are trained, directed, and paid by the FBI to conduct searches for the agency are acting as government agents,” EFF civil liberties director David Greene said in a written statement. “The FBI cannot bypass the Constitution’s warrant requirement by having its informants search people’s computers at its direction and command.” The San Francisco-based non-profit privacy group sued the Justice Department after it refused a request for documents about how the FBI recruits, trains, and pays Best Buy workers to find illegal child pornography on customer computers sent to Best Buy for repairs. “The public has a right to know how the FBI uses computer repair technicians to carry out searches the agents themselves cannot do without a warrant,” EFF senior counsel David Sobel said in a statement. “People authorize Best Buy employees to fix their computers, not conduct unconstitutional searches on the FBI’s behalf.” The FBI refused to provide records to EFF based on the agency’s policy of not confirming or denying ongoing investigations. But court documents in federal court in Santa Ana, California, argue that the FBI has launched a program of training and paying Geek Squad employees to look for child pornography on customer computers sent in for repairs, and to report the porn to authorities. The OC Weekly first reported in March that court documents revealed an “extensive secret relationship . . . between the FBI and Best Buy’s Geek Squad, including evidence the agency trained company technicians on law-enforcement operational tactics, shared lists of targeted citizens and, to covertly increase surveillance of the public, encouraged searches of computers even when unrelated to a customer’s request for repairs.” The relationship between the FBI and Best Buy came to light in the criminal case of U.S. v. Rettenmaier. Dr. Mark Rettenmaier, a Newport Beach, California obstetrics and gynecology specialist, is charged with knowingly possessing child pornography after Geek Squad employees reported to authorities that they allegedly found an illicit image during repairs of his computer in 2011. The criminal case was delayed after Rettenmair challenged the search of his computer and his home. Rettenmaier’s lawyers argue that sealed government documents reveal the FBI trained and paid Geek Squad employees, turning them into FBI agents, and therefore would have required a search warrant before Geek Squad employees could search the doctor’s computer, according court documents cited by the Washington Post. Best Buy admits that some employees were paid by the FBI. | |
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| 06-01-17 06:55am - 2761 days | #2 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User  Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
I would never defend CP or the people who watch it, but this would make me nervous. There are plenty of legal 18+ sites out there with names that could raise eyebrows. Consider a site like NaughtySchoolGirl.net. That was a solo model site with a woman named Mandy. Although it was legal, it sounds questionable, and it has also closed so there is no one around to provide 2257s. When the SSD in my laptop failed last year, I removed it and tried to recover my own files. If the drive were not totally inaccessible, I would have recovered my files, then wiped it before sending it in for repairs. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 06-01-17 08:04am - 2761 days | #3 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
IF YOU SUSPECTED THAT, KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY, YOUR HARD DRIVE OR SSD EVER HAD A POSSIBLY QUESTIONABLE IMAGE ON IT, MERELY WIPING THE DRIVE WOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT. YOU WOULD NEED AN INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH PROGRAM THAT WOULD COMPLETELY WIPE THE DRIVE CLEAN. QUOTING FROM A DIFFERENT ARTICLE: According to Riddet's motion(Riddet is the doctor's lawyer), (FBI) agents omitted that the images found on the hard drive were remnants of deleted files that required specialized computer forensics tools to view. That also means, Riddet argues, that nobody can be sure exactly when the images were placed on the drive, when they were deleted or whether Rettenmaier ever viewed them. The motion also contends that FBI agents looked at only one image on the hard drive before requesting the warrant and that the picture they looked at is not technically child pornography because it doesn't show a sexual act, even though it depicts a naked girl. =================== THE CASE AGAINST THE DOCTOR IS NOT THAT SIMPLE. THERE ARE OTHER FACTS INVOLVED. BUT--IF YOU BRING YOUR COMPUTER IN TO BEST BUY, AND IT EVER HAD PORN ON IT, THAT COULD BE DANGEROUS. IT MIGHT BE REPORTED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. | |
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| 06-01-17 10:31am - 2761 days | #4 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User  Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
Child pornography laws do not actually have to have any minors in the material in question. The offending material only has to show someone who "looks" underage in the eyes of the district attorney for charges to be filed. Furthermore, child pornography is one of several issues where privacy protections do not apply. Others include imminent harm and child or elder abuse. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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| 06-02-17 03:36am - 2760 days | #5 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE TIME SPENT BY BEST BUY EMPLOYEES THAT IS SPENT SPYING FOR THE FBI TO SEARCH COMPUTERS. ARE THE CUSTOMERS TOLD ABOUT THE SEARCHES? OBVIOUSLY, NOT. ARE THE CUSTOMERS CHARGED EXTRA FOR THE SEARCHES, SINCE THE SEARCHES TAKE TIME TO COMPLETE? OR WOULD BEST BUY DENY THE SEARCHES ARE ILLEGAL, BECAUSE NO ONE HAS SUED THEM OR FORCED THEM TO STOP? ENQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW. LET THE PU COMMUNITY RISE UP AND DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY FROM BEST BUY. ETERNAL VIGILANCE IS THE PRICE OF FREEDOM. WE MUST SNOOP ON BEST BUY BUSINESS PRACTICES, IF WE ARE TO LIVE TOGETHER IN PEACE AND HARMONY. CAN WE NOT ORGANIZE A BOYCOTT ON BEST BUY? END OF RANT. | |
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