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06-25-10  03:10pm - 5294 days Original Post - #1
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Big Day For The Porn Industry?

Seems as if the "xxx" extension for Porn sites has been approved. CNN says it's a big day for the Porn industry:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/06/25/x...tml?eref=igoogle_cnn

but I have grave misgivings about it and hope that most sites will opt out.

How simple it would be for Government to give this directive to an ISP: In order to minimize the corruption of our children and moral values do no longer allow access to any site that has a xxx as a domain name.

CNN, too, mentions that this could be a real danger if all Porn sites decided to adopt the new domain name.

06-25-10  03:14pm - 5294 days #2
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06-25-10  03:20pm - 5294 days #3
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Originally Posted by Advent:


What we have decided is this. We will (more than likely) have to buy the domains so no one else would get them for our company but we have no plans of using them and the reason you stated is the reason we would opt out.


I hope everyone will be as smart as you, Advent! Still a shame that so many will have to pay good money to register a name they have no intention of ever using. Somebody is going to make a mint out of this.

PS. I just read some of the comments following CNN's article and am even more convinced than ever that there is a real danger hidden in that so-called "convenience" of putting the whole industry under xxx.

PPS: Even scarier yet, reading between the lines:

"The .xxx internet suffix, which was first proposed six years ago by ICM Registry, a group that sells domain names, "will provide a place online for adult entertainment providers and their service providers who want to be part of our voluntary self regulatory community," according to that company's news release.

Adopting .xxx will be optional. However, some tech blogs speculate a push to make the domain mandatory for adult-only sites." Edited on Jun 25, 2010, 03:51pm

06-25-10  04:05pm - 5294 days #4
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Seems as if the "xxx" extension for Porn sites has been approved. CNN says it's a big day for the Porn industry:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/web/06/25/x...tml?eref=igoogle_cnn

but I have grave misgivings about it and hope that most sites will opt out.

How simple it would be for Government to give this directive to an ISP: In order to minimize the corruption of our children and moral values do no longer allow access to any site that has a xxx as a domain name.

CNN, too, mentions that this could be a real danger if all Porn sites decided to adopt the new domain name.


I haven't heard of anything such as a .vio (violence) or .grv (graphic violence) domain. Boy, would there be a LOT of domain name buying then! And they'd never have to worry about the govt shutting them down!

Nothing of that sort would poison the minds of children or corrupt anyone's moral values, hmm? I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

06-25-10  05:07pm - 5294 days #5
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Originally Posted by Drooler:

Nothing of that sort would poison the minds of children or corrupt anyone's moral values, hmm?

Aww... c'mon - you aren't saying that the government would decide what's right and what's wrong for it's individual citizens, are you?

Porn's always been the easy target for the high and mighty (so-called) moral majority. And the .xxx domain almost has to be a thinly veiled plan to control porn on the Internet.
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06-25-10  05:54pm - 5294 days #6
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


Aww... c'mon - you aren't saying that the government would decide what's right and what's wrong for it's individual citizens, are you?

Porn's always been the easy target for the high and mighty (so-called) moral majority. And the .xxx domain almost has to be a thinly veiled plan to control porn on the Internet.



Hey, I'm all for small government. The trouble is, they're small even when they're big. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

06-25-10  06:12pm - 5294 days #7
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http://66.115.137.185/

The domain name was bypassed

That is all a domain name is, a translation to an ip address.

Hold off on making your tin-foil hats until the governing body dictates a block of ip addresses for porn site hosting.

06-25-10  06:30pm - 5294 days #8
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Originally Posted by justme:


http://66.115.137.185/

The domain name was bypassed

That is all a domain name is, a translation to an ip address.

Hold off on making your tin-foil hats until the governing body dictates a block of ip addresses for porn site hosting.


I honestly don't understand because I'm not a tekkie. If a concerned parent can use software to stop his children from looking at porn couldn't software be created that refuses to translate any xxx site into an ip address? I would like to be re-assured on this.

06-25-10  07:15pm - 5294 days #9
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I honestly don't understand because I'm not a tekkie. If a concerned parent can use software to stop his children from looking at porn couldn't software be created that refuses to translate any xxx site into an ip address? I would like to be re-assured on this.


I can't answer that one but if you have software that blocks access to any site with the letters "xxx" in it then IP address or not. You will not be able to access any porn site with the xxx in it's domain name.

I do believe this is in large part a cash grab because it will mean that most exisiting .com websites will have to buy their .xxx equivalent to prevent people from stealing their potential customers by redirecting them to the wrong site. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-25-10  08:28pm - 5294 days #10
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Originally Posted by messmer:


CNN says it's a big day for the Porn industry:


Well, if CNN says it's so then it must be--end of discussion, right?

By "big day" they must mean that someone's going to make a lot of money, and I'll bet the costs get passed on to us.

Originally Posted by messmer:


How simple it would be for Government to give this directive to an ISP: In order to minimize the corruption of our children and moral values do no longer allow access to any site that has a xxx as a domain name.


So are they going to apply the 'xxx' to government sites as well, since so many of the idiots in charge of it--senators, representatives, governors, the list goes on--are just as perverted as any porn site out there, if not more so, and certainly a hell of a lot less honest? How about candidates' sites when election campaigns start, since the majority of the them seem to have a real problem staying faithful to their significant others?

The government's 'moral values' are certainly not mine...not by a long shot. When they begin to care more about ensuring the health and welfare of the people--rather than how they choose to spend what little free time they have left--then I'll give a shit about their 'moral values.' Otherwise, they might as well be speaking to me in Greek. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Jun 25, 2010, 08:39pm

06-25-10  08:36pm - 5294 days #11
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Hey, I'm all for small government. The trouble is, they're small even when they're big.


"Small government" seems to only apply to taxes, social programs, and education (apparently the modern Marxist trifecta ). But when government regulates arts and entertainment it's not big government, noooo, not at all. That's just the government deciding what's right and wrong for us, because we are way too feeble-minded, innocent, and fragile to decide for ourselves as adults. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

06-26-10  08:48am - 5293 days #12
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


"Small government" seems to only apply to taxes, social programs, and education (apparently the modern Marxist trifecta ). But when government regulates arts and entertainment it's not big government, noooo, not at all. That's just the government deciding what's right and wrong for us, because we are way too feeble-minded, innocent, and fragile to decide for ourselves as adults.


I see. And so they're big even when they're small, too. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

06-26-10  09:53am - 5293 days #13
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I can't answer that one but if you have software that blocks access to any site with the letters "xxx" in it then IP address or not. You will not be able to access any porn site with the xxx in it's domain name.

I do believe this is in large part a cash grab because it will mean that most exisiting .com websites will have to buy their .xxx equivalent to prevent people from stealing their potential customers by redirecting them to the wrong site.


Re. the software: that's what I thought too. Still waiting for justme's answer before I put away my tin foil hat.

As to the cash grab .. that might play a part. Somebody will get a lot of money for the registration of sites that most likely will never be used but I believe, like others, that it is primarily meant to make it easier to turn off that switch on porn when a Government feels that the time has come. The only thing that re-assures me is that one of my sites has already decided they will never use the xxx. Hopefully the others have enough sense to do the same.

06-26-10  10:02am - 5293 days #14
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I haven't heard of anything such as a .vio (violence) or .grv (graphic violence) domain. Boy, would there be a LOT of domain name buying then! And they'd never have to worry about the govt shutting them down!

Nothing of that sort would poison the minds of children or corrupt anyone's moral values, hmm?


You know, Drooler, that's always baffled me. How could we have such a twisted view of life and morality that graphic violence is okay yet sex isn't?

06-26-10  10:07am - 5293 days #15
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


Aww... c'mon - you aren't saying that the government would decide what's right and what's wrong for it's individual citizens, are you?

Porn's always been the easy target for the high and mighty (so-called) moral majority. And the .xxx domain almost has to be a thinly veiled plan to control porn on the Internet.



Funny (ironic) thing is that fundamentalist Christians (see the article) are actually on our side. They don't like it either except, in their case, they think it legitimizes Porn too much if porn is given its own domain.

06-26-10  10:15am - 5293 days #16
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


So are they going to apply the 'xxx' to government sites as well, since so many of the idiots in charge of it--senators, representatives, governors, the list goes on--are just as perverted as any porn site out there, if not more so, and certainly a hell of a lot less honest? How about candidates' sites when election campaigns start, since the majority of the them seem to have a real problem staying faithful to their significant others?

The government's 'moral values' are certainly not mine...not by a long shot. When they begin to care more about ensuring the health and welfare of the people--rather than how they choose to spend what little free time they have left--then I'll give a shit about their 'moral values.' Otherwise, they might as well be speaking to me in Greek.


I like the way you think. There is so much hypocrisy in Government that it makes me despair. It seems that those who cry out the loudest in connection with sex, gay rights, etc. are usually the worst offenders.

06-26-10  01:01pm - 5293 days #17
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So they finally approved ".xxx" domains. I always thought it should be ".cum"

06-26-10  01:22pm - 5293 days #18
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So is .xxx for all adult sites or just porn sites? What about nude art sites? What about sites which are primarily not sex related but do carry occasional adult photos?

What about sex sites which feature strictly non-nude content?

The whole thing is a nonsense. Before proceeding with this they need a definition of porn! Difficult when there are so many grey areas. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

06-26-10  02:28pm - 5293 days #19
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I can't see it being a 'good thing.'

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06-26-10  07:02pm - 5293 days #20
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I can't see it being a 'good thing.'

Cap'n.


Nope, the whole thing smells!

06-27-10  12:58am - 5293 days #21
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I like the way you think. There is so much hypocrisy in Government that it makes me despair. It seems that those who cry out the loudest in connection with sex, gay rights, etc. are usually the worst offenders.


Thanks, but maybe I'm just green with envy because some of these guys seem to be able to afford the high quality scandal material, like Eliot Spitzer and his business with Emperors Club VIP (I love that name ). My mind is still reeling from what the hell you could possibly get/do with girls that cost up to and above $5000 an hour.

I mean what could she possibly do that's worth that kind of dough?! Restore your youth? Teach to you to play the piano? I'd imagine for some customers that if a girl actually put five grand worth of effort into having sex with them then the only natural thing would be for them to die of a massive heart attack or stroke right as they were finishing, and then the girl makes all the necessary arrangements so that the family never knows the guy was spending a small fortune on happy-fuck hours and that he died in the middle of one.

If I had spent that kind of money I would have at least expected some votes in return (no actual guarantees of course, that would be unethical!). Or something like in one of those crazy "Hostel" films, but instead of me killing the girl we get to both go out and kill someone else together--and get away with it--because at $5K an hour you're practically getting away with murder! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

06-27-10  01:06am - 5293 days #22
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never seen any of those .xxx domain sites

why people aren't using it atm? i'm here for sport ))

06-28-10  12:19pm - 5291 days #23
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This topic came up a while back in the "Free Speech and Porn" thread if you want to venture that way and read into it.

First, this isn't a government act - it's just what passes for the "government" of internet domain names. ICANN is the international body that regulates domain naming. A group of marketers has been pushing for years to get .xxx as a way to make money and finally due to the operating ways of ICANN they really had no choice but to approve the new domain expansion. ICANN has no jurisdictional or internet law enforcement powers, it's just opening up the playing (or should I say "paying" field).

The short term reality is that once .xxx hits the scene, probably in a few months, not much will change. Most established porn sites will still keep their .com names; they'll just be forced to spend money to register the .xxx version of their site too to prevent cybersquatting (are you starting to see why this .xxx is money driven instead of porn driven ?).

Where it gets interesting is in a few years. By then, most companies operating in the .xxx realm will suddenly realize that anyone with the IQ of a lemming can write software to block .xxx domains so censorship will be quite heavy, making those limited to the .xxx realm wishing they had a .com life too. Individual countries might start to insist that all porn sites doing business in their land operate only under a .xxx name so that the government can censor them (unlikely to happen in the US but elsewhere expect to see this happen). In the long run, .xxx will be short term marketing gimmick for the new players in porn who don't know any better. The rest of the field will probably get a .xxx domain as a portal into their .com business and bitch about how .xxx is destroying porn along with pirated vids and low pricing.

06-29-10  07:33pm - 5290 days #24
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Reply to turboshaft-I thought I was the only one who could not imagine a prostitute at $5000 per hour. No woman who ever lived could get me to part with that much cash.

06-29-10  08:30pm - 5290 days #25
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Wittyguy -

Thanks for enlightening me as to this not being a government move. But I have to disagree that the U.S. government won't jump all over this. Once again, they seem to like to cater to the phony Puritans in this country. Morality issues are great for politicians to grab votes with - and what could be better than cleaning up something as evil as pornography? I just picture it taking some time as they figure out how to slowly tighten the noose, the .xxx domain being an early step in the process.
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07-01-10  07:40pm - 5288 days #26
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The new domain is nothing to worry about. They are hoping sex sites will self regulate and adopt the .xxx extension so parental software can filter it. The reality is established sites will buy the .xxx domain and just redirect to their .com or .net if they have been around a while and people are already familiar with those addresses.

Another side effect of this new domain will be established companies outside of porn buying up addresses. For example, CNN will not want a porn site on cnn.xxx so they will buy it just so nobody else uses it.

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