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09-30-08  08:59am - 5927 days Original Post - #1
Cybertoad (0)
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Careless Reviews & Reading Cost Us All

Careless Reviews & Reading Cost Us All,
This week was a great week and a bad week in porn for me.
I signed up for three sites, took the dip and purchased $75.00+ in sites. I chose 3 totally opposite type sites to give three reviews on 3 type niches. That was my Goal.
Sounds like fun. I have a new 1TB ext drive to fill so lets get started Ithought.

I reviewed 1byday. Wow what a site I was blown away it was as good as everyone says. So on to the next.
CRAP.... Reviewed a Cartoon site that had little Cartoons and a Solo Video site with no HD Video even though it was advertised.
So now what the hell do I do with a review?
If I review its gonna look like whining and complaining but they suck so what to do?

I had to make a choice give a low score review or none at all. At first I was pissed at the careless newbies that posted the wrong stuff in a review, then I realized just because they didn't know what they were doing was no reason I shouldn't have. ( should have never considered a newbie review)

So as painful as it was I posted mostly negative reviews on two sites. I hate giving bad feedback and reviews.
Just makes you see how stupid you were with your money and its gone now. ( you cant get a refund if the site sucks)

So heres some friendly advice, give your reviews good or bad. If theres enough to comment on you should as it may save ppl money.
And do not engage with Newbies that post. Give a comment
if they ask then respond and stop there. I found that a Newbie is gonna defend his review until Hell freezes over and they are not open to hear experience. I was lucky as a Newbie a few of you experienced guys gave me some advice and now I can do a review and be trusted. (thanks)

So notes to Newbies too:
Listen just do not talk, Porn Users Members spend 10's of thousands in all each year on this stuff.
If you read and listen you may give great reviews and help others.
The Idea I feel behind PU is to help save money and help the industry run well and avoid us spending to much. And have fun along the way.

OK Cybertoad is hoping of the soap box.
In Closing take the reviews seriously but try not to take new ones too serious. Give time to learn. And Be careful what you read. There is reasons newbie reviews do not count towards the scores at times.



Cybertoad. Since 2007

09-30-08  06:45pm - 5927 days #2
badandy400 (0)
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We all hear you, and feel you.

I agree that the views of a site should be given no matter if they are good or bad. Frequently we hear so many good things about a site and no one mentions a few nagging points. Every site has its short comings, even sites worthy of 100s. Even if you feel a site is on the top of its game any negatives should be pointed out. If the site is truly great than the few negatives should be things easily shrugged off, but it is nice to know going in.

I am guilty as well for defending a review as a newbie. Hell, I still defend that review! Point here being that you cant say "because it is" we want facts. And the fact is Cybertoad got screwed this week because facts where left out. A good reviewer will mention facts that do not mean much to himself knowing that they might mean something to another PU.

Not to move the topic, but I looked into one of the sites Cybertoad is talking about and he is right. There were a few reviews and comments posted saying great things about the site. Sure enough, they were all by people with one point or less. There was information left out that could have save Cybertoad good money.

Lesion here would be to check the reviewer out before trusting a review to a site that only has one or two reviews and all done by newbies. i believe newbies should review a few mainstream sites before jumping into niche sites. This way we would have a baseline to compare to. Fore example if a newbie reviews VideoBox and 1byday and the reviews seem consistent with each other and other reviews, then they might be a little more trustworthy. When someone one reviews one site and says it is the greating thing to hit the internet you at times must question the integrity of the review and reviewer. They may or may not have our best interest in mind.

After all, that is what the trust votes are for. It allows us to let others know what we think of a certain reviewer. If I see a reviewer getting stuff wrong I will not trust them and you can see that. And that should through up some sort of red flag saying "hey, why doesn't badandy400 trust this dude?" Unfortunately in this current case the reviews flew under the radar until now. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~

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09-30-08  06:52pm - 5927 days #3
pat362 (0)
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Location: canada
Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Careless Reviews & Reading Cost Us All,
This week was a great week and a bad week in porn for me.
I signed up for three sites, took the dip and purchased $75.00+ in sites. I chose 3 totally opposite type sites to give three reviews on 3 type niches. That was my Goal.
Sounds like fun.

So as painful as it was I posted mostly negative reviews on two sites. I hate giving bad feedback and reviews.
Just makes you see how stupid you were with your money and its gone now. ( you cant get a refund if the site sucks)

So heres some friendly advice, give your reviews good or bad. If theres enough to comment on you should as it may save ppl money.

So notes to Newbies too:
Listen just do not talk, Porn Users Members spend 10's of thousands in all each year on this stuff.
If you read and listen you may give great reviews and help others.
The Idea I feel behind PU is to help save money and help the industry run well and avoid us spending to much. And have fun along the way.



1-Let me first say thanks for your reviews.
2-Never feel bad about joining a website. ALL OF US have done it. Instead rejoice in the fact that your accident will save many others, and you may help put someones poor attempt at making money out of business.
3-Always give a review whether it is good or bad. I'd say that it's probably more important if it's bad because of #2
4-We all started as newbies, but as you review more sites and read other PU members reviews you discover a style or like me simply steal it from the other members. In any case our reviews just get better.
5-Go ahead and use that soap box anytime you fell like it. Long live the Brown Coats.

10-01-08  02:20am - 5926 days #4
Drooler (0)
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If a review doesn't tell me what I need from it (photo sizes, zips yes or no, frequency of updates, photo quality, video info., etc.) then it's as good as if I hadn't even read the review as far as I'm concerned. There is effectively no change in what I know about the site.

And some newbie reviews are like this, but plenty more are as well, here at PU, at TBP, and at other review sites. Really, ballpark figure, easily 60%, maybe more, of all of the reviews I read fall short in specific info.

And a few times I've also joined sites after getting the specs and found that my opinion of the site was not nearly as positive as the reviewer's. And I mean reviewers I've given the "Yes" to in trust.

But I don't usually complain to the reviewers in any such cases. Seems to me it's always going to be that way. There are some of us who will go the distance and point out, as everyone should, I think, info such as "Videos only in iPod or cellphone size." But the majority never will.

Still, I do try to encourage other reviewers to get down to those short 'n curlies to the better edification of all. And a few have improved in this way.

So the net effect, though kind of small, is still better than before, and porn shopping has indeed been a lot better anyway thanks to nowhere else but our beloved PU site. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

10-01-08  08:53am - 5926 days #5
badandy400 (0)
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Location: ohio
Agreed. Facts are facts and opinions are like assholes... :)

A good number of reviews sound something like this:

Pros: Some of the sexiest women I've encountered in porn. Normal women being very dirty. As it says in the site name, unique - all sorts of niche content not usually seen together - pregnant, stockings, glasses, masturbation, really great spreading shots
(check out Kaz - best spread ever)

Cons: content is not vast, videos are rather low quality

Bottom Line: Possibly my favourite web site, along with Simonscans and FTV. If you like solo women, and want to see some more mature ones in some really horny photo sets, this is a great site. Well worth a look.

This is an actual recent review. No facts here what so ever. Honestly this review could be summed up by saying "look at the site's homepage." That is exactly was is described here. I honestly could have told you that much by only looking the main page (which I did look at) and never actually joining the site!

This review tells us nothing about what to expect once paid and inside. No mention to how many video, size, quality, how many photo sets to look for, or anything to let me know what I am looking at.

I am not picking only on this review, there are many like it. They totally forget the meat and potatoes part of the review and only focus on the dessert part. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~

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10-01-08  01:13pm - 5926 days #6
Drooler (0)
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Posts: 1,831
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Location: USA
Originally Posted by badandy400:


Agreed. Facts are facts and opinions are like assholes... :)

A good number of reviews sound something like this:

Pros: Some of the sexiest women I've encountered in porn. Normal women being very dirty. As it says in the site name, unique - all sorts of niche content not usually seen together - pregnant, stockings, glasses, masturbation, really great spreading shots
(check out Kaz - best spread ever)

Cons: content is not vast, videos are rather low quality

Bottom Line: Possibly my favourite web site, along with Simonscans and FTV. If you like solo women, and want to see some more mature ones in some really horny photo sets, this is a great site. Well worth a look.

This is an actual recent review. No facts here what so ever. Honestly this review could be summed up by saying "look at the site's homepage." That is exactly was is described here. I honestly could have told you that much by only looking the main page (which I did look at) and never actually joining the site!

This review tells us nothing about what to expect once paid and inside. No mention to how many video, size, quality, how many photo sets to look for, or anything to let me know what I am looking at.

I am not picking only on this review, there are many like it. They totally forget the meat and potatoes part of the review and only focus on the dessert part.


That's nailing it! Nothing like a "classic example," and the choice you made hit the bullseye.

Really had a good laugh. "... opinions are like assholes." Would make a great tag line! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

10-01-08  05:59pm - 5926 days #7
Monahan (0)
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Location: SF Valley, CA
Great post, Cybertoad.

But there are Newbies and there are Newbies.

Miths, a Newbie, just posted an excellent review of AEBN Video On Demand, and it is the first one for that site.

badandy400 nailed it with his example of a lousy review by a newbie, and I agree that most reviews by newbies are close to his example.

But I'm looking forward to more from Miths and other newbies who take the time to be thorough and complete.

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