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02-15-19  10:46am - 2137 days Original Post - #1
FreddieAdmin
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Announcement: Where To Go From Here (Suggestion Thread!)

Hello my lovelies!

After everything that happened last week, the PU team got together and came up with a bunch of suggestions to help improve the forum. We listened, we read and we came up with some ideas. Before anything is enacted, I wanted it to throw it to you guys to hear your thoughts - what we can improve on, anything you'd want to add, what you disagree with etc. So here we go!

1. Member of the Month! The idea around here would be pretty straight forward. Each month, you guys nominate a member of the month - who wrote the best reviews, who was the best community member. The winner is chosen by a random raffle and would win a 30 day membership to a porn site of their liking!

2. Raffle changes!

a. The prizes stay the same. We'll change the word count for a Good Reviews to be 100-150 words and an Excellent Reviews to be 150-200 words.

b. First time reviewers, we'll add extra points (to be determined) which I will do manually.

c. We'll begin doing a Raffle breakdown. This means that everyone needs to get in their reviews by Sunday, on Monday I will breakdown the reviews, explaing why they got certain points and then do the raffle on Tuesday.

d. For the first prize winner, I'll reach out to them and ask if they'd prefer a 30 day membership to the site of their choosing or the money.


3. Regarding setting up a reporting system, we'll talk to the tech team to set up something in the future but for now, DM me if you see anything suspicious/something you're uncomfortable with and I'll get that sorted.

4. We're looking in to bring in other female members. If you guys no one any women who'd want to join, please bring them along. Us women can form our little Women's Porn Lover Club!

5. We'll be pinning all suggested threads, alongside start new trends, including a new Raffle Threads, Sites Not List, A General Porn User, New Members suggestion thread.

6. I'll start more threads involving non-porn related subjects! Always good to talk about more stuff than boobs and pussies

7. We'll be keeping an eye on any sort of IP fraud - if there are any members who are rigging the raffle, we'll ban them.

8. I just wanted to make it clear, but we've never banned members. That's never happened and it won't happen unless there's harassement/fraud!

This is a roundup of our thoughts and suggestions! Let me know your thoughts and further suggestions!!

Freddie xoxox

02-15-19  10:52am - 2137 days #2
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These sound like good efforts in a positive direction.

What can be done to encourage reviews of sites that have none?

02-15-19  11:20am - 2137 days #3
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Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:




6. I'll start more threads involving non-porn related subjects! Always good to talk about more stuff than boobs and pussies


For the humor element, it seems when we talk about "normal" topics, it usually ends up going back to boobs and pussies

Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


7. We'll be keeping an eye on any sort of IP fraud - if there are any members who are rigging the raffle, we'll ban them.



What about, like in my situation, where I would like to have my girlfriend join? She would be from the same IP as me. Is there a way to turn off her raffle eligibility? As mentioned before, I can't see her reviewing sites but I wouldn't want to run into a situation where our same IP shows up. I was, at one time, thinking there was an option to turn off raffle eligibility but I've looked through my profile and can't find it. And don't feel bad for her having her raffle eligibility turned off. She figured out to sign in with my Amazon account and use my gift card balance. Here I was thinking she just wanted to use my Kindle Unlimited account. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

02-15-19  11:30am - 2137 days #4
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:



What about, like in my situation, where I would like to have my girlfriend join? She would be from the same IP as me. Is there a way to turn off her raffle eligibility? As mentioned before, I can't see her reviewing sites but I wouldn't want to run into a situation where our same IP shows up. I was, at one time, thinking there was an option to turn off raffle eligibility but I've looked through my profile and can't find it. And don't feel bad for her having her raffle eligibility turned off. She figured out to sign in with my Amazon account and use my gift card balance. Here I was thinking she just wanted to use my Kindle Unlimited account.


For now, I'd say I'd make an internal note of her username and if she pops up for a review, I won't accept her reviews for the Raffle.

02-15-19  11:31am - 2137 days #5
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


These sound like good efforts in a positive direction.

What can be done to encourage reviews of sites that have none?


We're currently testing some ideas. My colleague is going to compile a list of sites we could get free 30 day memberships and we'll post them and see what you guys think - this is going idea right now.

02-15-19  11:56am - 2137 days #6
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[QUOTE=FreddieAdmin]

1. Member of the Month! The idea around here would be pretty straight forward. Each month, you guys nominate a member of the month - who wrote the best reviews, who was the best community member. The winner is chosen by a random raffle and would win a 30 day membership to a porn site of their liking!

We need a few rules for this to work. You cannot nominate yourself and cannot win more than once a year.

Is it too soon for a nomination? I would want to see Shen win. His first two reviews are astonishingly good. Edited on Feb 15, 2019, 12:06pm

02-16-19  01:26am - 2136 days #7
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I don't see any sense or purpose in excluding someone from the raffle if they write a review that earns one point or more. Whether they are male or female. A partner, wife, or companion of a PU member.

Also, the idea of offering a 30-day membership in place of a prize does not make a lot of sense.
First prize is $100, which more than covers almost all porn site memberships.
Second and third prizes are $50, which also more than covers most porn site memberships.
Of course, the prize is not cash, but an Amazon gift certificate, but the Amazon gift certificate is almost the equivalent of cash.

You can run a member poll asking if a PU member would prefer an Amazon gift certificate for $50 versus a 30-day membership.
My guess is that few, if any PU members, would take the 30-day membership.
Although there are a few sites that might charge more than $50/month, but they are rare.
And not very popular, I'm guessing.

Could you expand on IP fraud and rigging the raffle?
Using worthless reviews to enter the raffle seems to be the only obvious ploy I can think of.
Should we be looking for mafia connections in the background of PU members (joke, but not a very funny one).

IP: a PU member using more than one alias to enter the raffle? To promote porn sites that he is getting paid to promote?
I assume this has happened, but I also guess it's kind of rare for the PU site.
But if a PU member has the technical expertise to use different aliases, I also assume it would be difficult to detect it. That is assuming the thief has the ability to cover his tracks, with VPN and other tools.

My best guess is that most PU members give honest reviews and comments.
At least, that's the way I see it. Edited on Feb 16, 2019, 01:30am

02-16-19  05:25pm - 2136 days #8
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I don't see any sense or purpose in excluding someone from the raffle if they write a review that earns one point or more. Whether they are male or female. A partner, wife, or companion of a PU member.


Could you expand on IP fraud and rigging the raffle?
Using worthless reviews to enter the raffle seems to be the only obvious ploy I can think of.
Should we be looking for mafia connections in the background of PU members (joke, but not a very funny one).

IP: a PU member using more than one alias to enter the raffle? To promote porn sites that he is getting paid to promote?
I assume this has happened, but I also guess it's kind of rare for the PU site.
But if a PU member has the technical expertise to use different aliases, I also assume it would be difficult to detect it. That is assuming the thief has the ability to cover his tracks, with VPN and other tools.

My best guess is that most PU members give honest reviews and comments.
At least, that's the way I see it.


Years ago, Roseman had his wife join. They both won a raffle in the same week. Khan saw that they were from the same IP and he got very upset. I see that Roseman hasn't been around in awhile so I don't remember all of it exactly but I'm pretty sure either him or his wife had to remove their eligibility from the raffle/stop reviewing. After much talk, Khan said it was something he didn't really agree with (making one be ineligible for the raffle) but he said what would stop one member from creating 3-4 accounts and receiving multiple entries in the raffle.

And I'm positive we used to have a tick box in our profiles where we could remove our eligibility for the raffle. I even remember a couple of members doing it. My profile has been strange over the years. My bio cleared itself at one point. Then, it wouldn't let me enter new information in the bio. Then, the bio completely disappeared. Now, it's back. I'm sure it all dates back to when we had that huge forum crash that wiped out some of the old posts in the forum, too.

My girlfriend, that I know of, hasn't ever joined a porn site but she will mention one or two she might be interested in then I'll join it. She can be a little self-conscious about her English but I tell her we're not a grammar site. Because of that self-consciousness, she probably wouldn't ever try to write a review but I am willing to mention her thoughts in my reviews. One place she differs from most of us is she doesn't understand the technical parts like photo and video resolutions. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

02-16-19  10:57pm - 2136 days #9
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DISCLAIMER: CAPS ARE EASIER FOR ME TO READ (AND EDIT). PLEASE EXCUSE MY USAGE.

OCCASIONALLY A PU MEMBER CAN BE INACTIVE FOR YEARS, THEN SUDDENLY POP UP ON THE SITE.
THIS HAPPENED WITH ACE OF ACES RECENTLY.

SO I ASSUME THAT SOME PU MEMBERS EITHER IGNORE THE PU SITE, OR LURK.
WHATEVER.

PU MEMBERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE WHENEVER, OR AS LITTLE, AS THEY WANT.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

IT'S NO BIG ISSUE WITH ME IF A MEMBER'S WIFE, PARTNER, GIRLFRIEND, ROOM-MATE, OR WHATEVER WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PU SITE.
SO IF MORE THAN ONE PERSON USES THE SAME IP ADDRESS I DON'T CARE.

BUT I'M NOT RUNNING THE PU SITE.
IF THE PU STAFF WANTS TO MAKE A RULE ABOUT MORE THAN ONE PERSON USING THE SAME IP ADDRESS (AS AN EFFORT TO REDUCE FRAUD, OR JUST TO KEEP THINGS SIMPLE FOR THEM, OR FOR NO REASON AT ALL), FINE: THE PU STAFF -- OR THE PU OWNERS -- ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE THE RULES PU USERS HAVE TO FOLLOW.

I ONLY BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF MORE THAN ONE PERSON USING THE SAME IP ADDRESS BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE GENERAL IDEA WAS TO MAKE SITE PARTICIPATION AS BROAD AS POSSIBLE.

AS FAR AS A MEMBER WANTING HIS PARTNER/GIRL FRIEND/WHATEVER TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE RAFFLE: THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL CHOICE: THE PARTNER/WHATEVER CAN WORK IT OUT WITH THE OTHER PARTNER, WHILE FOLLOWING THE PU RULES THAT APPLY: CAN MORE THAN ONE PERSON USE THE SAME IP ADDRESS TO POST TO THE PU SITE?

PU DOES NOT EMPHASIZE GRAMMAR: A LOT OF PU MEMBERS ARE NOT FROM THE US: PU LETS CANADIANS, MAYBE EVEN PEOPLE FROM SOUTH OF THE US BORDER (BELOW TEXAS),
MAYBE EVEN FROM SOUTH AMERICA OR EVEN FROM EUROPE OR ASIA (TRUMP NEEDS TO LOOK INTO THIS MATTER OF NATIONAL SECURITY).

SO GRAMMAR IS NOT EMPHASIZED: EVEN PEOPLE FROM ENGLAND, WHO SPEAK AND WRITE A MANGLED FORM OF ENGLISH, ARE ALLOWED INTO THE PU COMMUNITY.

IF EXOTICS4ME'S GIRLFRIEND WANTS TO WRITE A REVIEW, OR PUBLISH A POST OR COMMENT OF HER IDEAS, WHETHER SHE HAS ANY TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE OF PHOTO OR VIDEO SEEMS, TO ME, TO BE KIND OF IRRELEVANT: I REALIZE THIS MIGHT BE HERESY, BY TOADSITH'S CHEAT SHEETS. BUT---THE MORE IDEAS AND VIEWPOINTS THAT ARE EXPRESSED IN PU, THE MORE VITAL AND ALIVE THE SITE MIGHT BECOME.
THAT'S ONE REASON FOR TRYING TO PUSH A FEMALE VIEWPOINT AT PU.

IF SHE CAN COMMUNICATE IN ENGLISH (I'M NOT TRYING TO PUSH FOR SPANISH OR OTHER FOREIGN LANGUAGE POSTS), THAT'S BASICALLY THE ONLY BARRIER SHE HAS TO PASS TO POST AT PU. ASSUMING SHE WANTS TO POST AT PU.

OR- IF SHE IS MORE COMFORTABLE LETTING EXOTICS4ME TO POST HER THOUGHTS, THAT'S FINE BY ME.

I JUST THINK THAT A FRIEND, PARTNER, GIRL-FRIEND, BOY-FRIEND, WHATEVER, SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT CHOICE OF CHOOSING TO POST OR NOT.

I FAIL TO SEE WHY EXOTICS4ME HAS TO APOLOGIZE FOR HIS PARTNERS/GIRL-FRIENDS/WHATEVER EXPERIENCE OR NOT.

AND IF SHE HAS ACCESS TO PORN SITES THROUGH HER CONNECTION TO EXOTICS4ME, I HONESTLY THINK SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO PUBLISH HER IDEAS ON SITES:
-AS LONG AS SHE IS A MEMBER OF THE PU COMMUNITY.
-OR SHE CAN HIDE BEHIND EXOTICS4ME'S IDENTITY, AND PUBLISH UNDER HIS LICENSE TO PUBLISH.

THE PU SITE IS NOT SET UP TO P0LICE EACH ENTRY AND POST/REVIEW/COMMENT TO THE SITE.
I'M NOT RECOMMENDING FLOUTING PU RULES.

BUT THIS IS BASICALLY A COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN SHARE IDEAS OR THOUGHTS ON PORN.

SIDE NOTE: THE PU STAFF CAN RULE ON WHETHER A PARTNER'S ACCESS TO A PORN SITE (ASSUMING THE PARTNER IS A PU MEMBER) GIVES HIM/HER/WHATEVER THE RIGHT TO MAKE COMMENTS OR REVIEWS ON PORN SITES.

THE PU STAFF DOES NOT REQUIRE, AS OF YET, PROOF OF ACTIVE MEMBERSHIP TO A PORN SITE BEFORE ACCEPTING A COMMENT, REVIEW, WHATEVER.

THE STAFF IS NOT SET UP FOR IT: WE FUNCTION ON A BASIS OF TRUST.
YES, THE PU SITE COULD REQUIRE PHOTO COPIES FROM EACH MEMBER OF CONFIRMING EMAILS OR OTHER PROOF OF PORN SITE MEMBERSHIP.
ARE THEY UP TO THE ADDED WORK-LOAD?
WOULDN'T IT BE MORE PRODUCTIVE TO LET THEM DECIDE WHERE TO PUT THEIR TIME AND ENERGY AND IDEAS TO IMPROVE THE SITE EXPERIENCE, INSTEAD OF MAKING A BUREAUCRATIC NIGHTMARE WITH MISTRUST AND SUSPICION AND THE THREATS OF RED SCARES/SOCIALISM/TRUMPISM?

GIVE ME LIBERTY, OR GIVE ME DEATH, CRY I, IN THE MEMORY OF THAT FREEDOM FIGHTER, PATRICK HENRY, WHO WANTED A FREE AND OPEN PU SOCIETY.

02-17-19  08:03am - 2135 days #10
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Please excuse some of what I have to say as I am inexperienced, as the old British saying goes, I could be talking out of my arse!

Now then...

Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


1. Member of the Month! The idea around here would be pretty straight forward. Each month, you guys nominate a member of the month - who wrote the best reviews, who was the best community member. The winner is chosen by a random raffle and would win a 30 day membership to a porn site of their liking!

This could be good. Personally, I would do away with the raffle in this scenario as the whole concept of "member of the month" is who did the most/was the best for the community on that month. It should be based on the number of nominations/votes and if there's a tie you could randomnise it between them. But, as mbaya said, this needs refining so you obviously can't nominate yourself and no one should be able to win more than once a year - previous winners should be excluded from nominations. You should list them and warn ahead in a post either in a new thread or within a thread before people can go ahead and make their votes. I don't think this should be done through polls as that can be rigged in my opinion, people replying through posts have more legitimacy.

Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


2. Raffle changes!

a. The prizes stay the same. We'll change the word count for a Good Reviews to be 100-150 words and an Excellent Reviews to be 150-200 words.

Fine.

Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


b. First time reviewers, we'll add extra points (to be determined) which I will do manually.

Okay.

Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


c. We'll begin doing a Raffle breakdown. This means that everyone needs to get in their reviews by Sunday, on Monday I will breakdown the reviews, explaing why they got certain points and then do the raffle on Tuesday.

Sounds good, hope that isn't too cumbersome for you in the long term.

Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


d. For the first prize winner, I'll reach out to them and ask if they'd prefer a 30 day membership to the site of their choosing or the money.

I disagree with this. Like lk2fireone said, the $100 Amazon gift card more than covers virtually all 30 day memberships, not many who'd win 1st place would opt for the membership instead in my eyes. But I think that could be a different story for the 2nd and 3rd place winners at $50 - it's still more than almost all memberships but is a bit more viable in that respect. Instead, I think the liberty should be taken that all three spots should be allowed a 30 day membership. But, I think the member should email you within a certain time span and if they don't then message you within that they must be assumed to opt for the gift card - in which case give them the gift card. Given how uncommon it will be for a member to go for the membership over the gift card anyway, I think this will be feasible and won't result in a barrage of emails. I might have some uses for a free membership is all.

Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


3. Regarding setting up a reporting system, we'll talk to the tech team to set up something in the future but for now, DM me if you see anything suspicious/something you're uncomfortable with and I'll get that sorted.

A reporting system would be great.

Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


4. We're looking in to bring in other female members. If you guys no one any women who'd want to join, please bring them along. Us women can form our little Women's Porn Lover Club!

I'm definitely fine with this

Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


5. We'll be pinning all suggested threads, alongside start new trends, including a new Raffle Threads, Sites Not List, A General Porn User, New Members suggestion thread.
Freddie xoxox


I think "Sites Not Listed" could use a new thread personally, as that was started from back in 2016. I have a few websites that I like that aren't on the database.

Originally Posted by mbaya:


Is it too soon for a nomination? I would want to see Shen win. His first two reviews are astonishingly good.

Heh, you're too nice

Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


SO GRAMMAR IS NOT EMPHASIZED: EVEN PEOPLE FROM ENGLAND, WHO SPEAK AND WRITE A MANGLED FORM OF ENGLISH, ARE ALLOWED INTO THE PU COMMUNITY.

Oi, ya cheeky bastad (colloquialism with a tinge of irony)

02-17-19  10:42am - 2135 days #11
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6. I'll start more threads involving non-porn related subjects! Always good to talk about more stuff than boobs and pussies


Great idea. You also can give trust votes where you feel it would help as both Khan and Amanda did occasionally.

I would like the trust vote system revitalized. We need to leave a negative in order to flag those you should check out.

Leaving a positive trust vote is an easy kind of recognition. I leave them for new members who put effort into their reviews, comments, etc. When I first started here the welcoming attitude kept me around. The standard for everyone here, members and management, should be to notice new members and make them feel valued. Edited on Feb 17, 2019, 04:37pm

02-17-19  04:00pm - 2135 days #12
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If anyone ran into the problem I was running into, being unable to give trust votes, using the Chrome browser fixes it. I've tried it in Firefox, Opera and Edge with no success. In those three, the "submit" button is crossed out and has the text "submit" but it doesn't work. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk

02-18-19  01:13pm - 2134 days #13
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Popping into say that I'm reading all of this so continue with your suggestions.

Of course, we won't enact all these changes immediately and will roll them out slowly. First order of business is to create a bunch of new threads!

This week the Raffle will be the same and I'll keep everyone posted when changes are made.

02-18-19  01:22pm - 2134 days #14
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I USE FIREFOX.
THE "YES" TRUST VOTE IS NOT AN ACTIVE HOT LINK.

MAYBE THAT'S A HINT FROM THE PU STAFF THAT WE SHOULD BE SUSPICIOUS OF GIVING OUR TRUST TO OTHER PU MEMBERS?

I WAS GOING TO GIVE FREDDIE ADMIN A POSITIVE TRUST VOTE.
BUT WHEN I CLICK ON THE HOT LINK TO SEND HER A PRIVATE EMAIL, I GET A PAGE THAT SAYS:

"This User is Invalid.

You've reached a user that is invalid or no longer exists.

If this resulted from a live link, please report this to us (with details)."

MY FAITH IN PU HAS ERODED.
IS FREDDIE A SOUL-LESS ROBOT THAT CAPTURED MY IMAGINATION OF A CARING, COMPASSIONATE PU STAFFER?

CLICK ON THE CAPTCHA THAT PROVES SHE EXISTS.
IT DOESN'T EXIST.


02-18-19  01:27pm - 2134 days #15
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I USE FIREFOX.
THE "YES" TRUST VOTE IS NOT AN ACTIVE HOT LINK.

MAYBE THAT'S A HINT FROM THE PU STAFF THAT WE SHOULD BE SUSPICIOUS OF GIVING OUR TRUST TO OTHER PU MEMBERS?

I WAS GOING TO GIVE FREDDIE ADMIN A POSITIVE TRUST VOTE.
BUT WHEN I CLICK ON THE HOT LINK TO SEND HER A PRIVATE EMAIL, I GET A PAGE THAT SAYS:

"This User is Invalid.

You've reached a user that is invalid or no longer exists.

If this resulted from a live link, please report this to us (with details)."

MY FAITH IN PU HAS ERODED.
IS FREDDIE A SOUL-LESS ROBOT THAT CAPTURED MY IMAGINATION OF A CARING, COMPASSIONATE PU STAFFER?

CLICK ON THE CAPTCHA THAT PROVES SHE EXISTS.
IT DOESN'T EXIST.




Thanks for flagging this!!! For some reason, my profile has been bugging lately. I'm going to get it fixed soon. This is why I haven't been able to add an avatar. I have one ready but it won't let me load it!! I'll get it sorted by tomorrow hopefully.

05-17-20  05:18pm - 1680 days #16
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I like the idea of a member of the month. Is there any chance we might do this? Female and proud

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