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| 09-06-10 12:56am - 5221 days | #51 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Monahan, I wasn't presupposing the neighborhood can do anything about this. My point was it would be un-american for the government to prevent a religious building from being built on private land anywhere, anytime regardless of the public perception of said structures. This building I'm sure went through months if not years of permitting, zoning, probably public meetings, and yet no one raises a stink until the election cycle starts. Perhaps I am just unclear on the goal of the protests. From what I have seen it seems the intent is to have the government step in and prevent the building from being built. It seems to me as though these protests are breeding intolerance towards Islam around the country, and I don't see that as a good thing. If we want to make peace with the Islamic world, this is certainly not the way to do it. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 09-06-10 01:34am - 5221 days | #52 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
Sometimes I despair. Why on Earth is the human race still wasting time on religious buildings, arguments and protests? I bet if there is any similarly intelligent life anywhere beyond our planet, and they could see us, they would be laughing their heads off right now. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 09-06-10 07:47am - 5221 days | #53 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User  Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
The stated goal of the protests has never been made as far as I know. But it has been made clear by almost everyone who has argued against the Islamic Center, including Glenn Beck to whom you refer, have stated clearly that the sponsors have every right to build the center; but are just wishing that they would not do so given the joyous reactions of the people in Islamic nations around the world to the 9/11 attacks. The matter will not go away either because Imam Rauf has decided to hold the dedication ceremonies on 9/11/2011, the 10 year anniversary of the attacks. | |
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| 09-06-10 11:11pm - 5220 days | #54 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
I guess, I just feel it is pretty overblown at this point. And I am doubtful the joyous reactions you speak of are the opinions of the majority of muslims - and I'm sure many strongly regret having that reaction. I also more or less agree with Ed, it seems as though religion may provide a good moral compass at times, but often causes way too much pain/suffering/death for it really to make any sense. If we are to have religion, we certainly also need to all learn to be much more tolerant. I'm sure the hillbilly response of burning Qurans in Florida will go over very well in the Islamic world. Just makes me wonder, how would these guys react to Muslims burning bibles? As I understood it a few weeks ago the dedication thing was an outright lie by Beck and company, unless there is new news on this? I couldn't find any, but then haven't looked at the news much today. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 09-07-10 07:38pm - 5219 days | #55 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
The great example of how welcoming other religions are as compared to Islam is being set by the fucking imbecilic retards - to use a technical term - in Florida that are planning to burn 200 copies of the Quran on Saturday as their commemoration of 9/11 - in spite of the fact that the military commanders who know a thing or two about conditions on the ground are pointing out "uh - folks - we've got a few American troops over here and they're not exactly going to be treated well when you people are burning the book most holy to the people that live over here." Un-fucking-believable! | |
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| 09-08-10 12:19am - 5219 days | #56 | ||
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Hey, didn't the you-know-who like to burn books also? Oops! Sorry, Denner... 
Good thing there's an ocean separating us.  Actually I'm currently reading a book called "American Fascists" about the dangerous rise of the Christian right in America. Among other things, it talks about the suppression of dissenting viewpoints--including non-Christian faiths, and even some sects of Christianity--as well as the intolerance of people and things viewed as 'foreign' to American values. Interestingly, though it was published in 2006, the author also mentions the possibility of some religious fundamentalists trying to hijack the civil rights movement for their own purposes...which I would have thought crazy until Glenn Beck's total 'coincidence' of scheduling a large rally and speech at the same place and date of King's 1963 one. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | ||
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| 09-08-10 07:18pm - 5218 days | #57 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
My belief is that female porn stars should probably avoid taking a vacation in Iran. Because if they do visit Iran, their professional careers could end prematurely.  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Iran woman's stoning suspended after global outcry By Robin Pomeroy Robin Pomeroy � Wed Sep 8, 2010 2:40 pm ET TEHRAN (Reuters) � Iranian authorities have suspended the execution by stoning of a woman convicted of adultery, the Foreign Ministry said on Wednesday, after weeks of condemnation from around the world. "The verdict regarding the extramarital affairs has stopped and it's being reviewed," Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast told Iran's state-run English-language Press TV. The statement came a day after European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso called the stoning sentence against Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani "barbaric beyond words," the latest in a string of criticisms by foreign powers. She was convicted of adultery -- a capital crime in the Islamic Republic -- in 2006. She also has been charged with involvement in her husband's murder. In a live telephone interview, Mehmanparast said the murder charge was "being investigated for the final verdict to be issued." Adultery is the only crime which carries the penalty of death by stoning under the sharia law which Iran adopted after the 1979 Islamic revolution, a lawyer told Reuters. The death penalty for murder in Iran is by hanging. The lawyer said Ashtiani might receive 15 years' jail if convicted of being an accomplice to murder. At no point in the interview, which was in the Farsi language but was dubbed over by a simultaneous translation into English, did Mehmanparast mention "stoning," referring merely to Ashtiani's "death sentence." "We think that this is a very normal case," he said. "This dossier looks likes many other dossiers that exist in other countries." SOFT WAR Human rights campaigners, intellectuals and politicians in Europe, including French President Nicolas Sarkozy and his wife Carla Bruni, have taken up Ashtiani's cause. In Washington, U.S. State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley told a briefing on Wednesday: "Stoning is a barbaric and abhorrent act. We have joined with many, many voices around the world in condemning this prospective action by Iran. But ultimately this is in the hand of Iranian authorities." Karim Lahidji, Paris-based president of the Iranian League for the Defense of Human Rights, told France 24 television: "We are very happy with the result of this campaign ... even though, to this day, no decision has been made in a court. "As long as she is not freed, we really don't know if this case is definitely closed." Mehmanparast blamed the United States for stirring the furor to hurt Iran's international image as it faces sanctions aimed at curbing its nuclear program. "It looks like they are playing a political game," he said. "This lady's case that is being followed ... is in direct connection and relation with the soft war that is being waged against Iran and the aim is to create a rift in relations between Iran, Brazil and Turkey." Both Brazil and Turkey have worked diplomatically to try to solve the impasse over the nuclear program which Iran says is entirely peaceful but which the United States and European countries suspect is aimed at making a bomb. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said Iran may return to talks with global powers after the holy month of Ramadan which ends this week. Human rights campaigners had said they feared Ashtiani's execution could be carried out after Ramadan. Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva offered asylum to Ashtiani, prompting an embarrassing public rejection of his offer by Iran which said he was a "humane and sensitive character" but was not in possession of all the facts. According to Amnesty International, Iran is second only to China in the number of people it executes. It put to death at least 346 people in 2008. (Additional Reporting by Bate Felix in Paris; Editing by Michael Roddy and Paul Taylor) | |
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| 09-09-10 07:09pm - 5217 days | #58 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I always find it interesting how the U.S. government publicly condemns other countries for their "barbaric and abhorrent" acts such as this when it also still actively practices the use of the death penalty. Maybe we're just upset because they are not executing people 'humanely'--I'm sure we have plenty of potassium chloride we can sell to them, would that violate our sanctions against them? Coupled with our unwavering support for Israel and our military presence in both Iraq and Afghanistan (two of the border countries of Iran), our condemnations likely mean next to nothing to the Iranian government, except maybe for a laugh or two. Yes, this is awful, medieval-style 'justice' of the worst kind--extreme punishments for disobeying authoritarian rule dressed up as religious law--but we have to look at the bigger picture if we really wish to end this insanity. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 09-09-10 09:09pm - 5217 days | #59 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
My contempt, outrage and boiling detestation for whatever order they call themselves who stoned this girl goes beyond all conceivable comprehension. This cowardly, demonic system of belief should have the full wrath of the world come down on them. That whole bunch of misguided, extremist, fanatical outhouse of imbeciles should be completely isolated and cut off from any form of humanity. Such subhumans are unfit to live among normal people. You want my head for messin' with your beliefs, cowards??? come an' get it! I'll have some 30-calaber hollow-points waiting for you. They work better than stones. Sorry folks, gettin' off on a tangent, an' all.....but the news of this thing really got to me.  | |
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| 09-10-10 05:42am - 5217 days | #60 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I have to say I'm with Graymane on this one. Like me he has probably gone from being an angry young man to angry old man. There are forms of barabarism, torture, and inhumanity that turn the stomach, but when a whole nation or large part of a nation or religion supports this sort of behaviour, there should not be understanding. We should not be understanding, we should be condemning. I have been against the death penalty for a number of years. Even a majority of Americans do not support the death penalty so long as life means life. That means at least if there is an horrendous mistake or injustice, at least it can be undone to a certain extent. I do not believe there is justice as the rich get better or favourable justice than the poor. That Americans have the death penalty should be condemned by civilized nations. However the amount of disgusting crimes carried out by muslim nations which are supported by the people shows what a danger to our society these uncivilized people are. It is why I brought up the Salman Rushdie fatwa. You will find very few muslims who will condemn this. They may avoid the question, or try to talk around it, but they will not say they are against it. Come to think of it I cannot remember one single muslim who has ever spoken out against the Salman Rushdie fatwa. Not one. One other thing to remember. The original Afghanistan invasion came after Christians had been arrested for distributing bibles. Their fate did not look good. I'm not a Chrisitian, but I remember the disgust I felt, along with others, for the treatment of those people, and something needed to be done. I still feel that way. I was one who celebrated the invasion of Afghanistan. Going in and getting bad people is costly in lives and money. The UK and US governments couldn't care less about innocent people. They have done what they have done because of oil and money. That I understand. But I still enjoyed the invasion of Afghanistan. Stoning a woman to death for adultery? NO! But this is Islam and what it stands for. Do I care about the inhumanity and devastation caused to their countries by UK and US troops, fighting an illegal war for phony reasons? I shall be honest. No. I am one of the few who liked the idea of the koran burning. It would have given a refresher course on what these people are like when they consider their religion has been insulted. We are disciples of the devil as far as that religion is concerned. That is how they think of us. If disciples of the devil are against stoning a woman to death for having sex, I know where I stand. Okay Rick and Khan. By this time beads of sweat will probably be forming on your brow. I shall shut up now. If the post is too close to the knuckle for your liking then you may have to remove it, but along with Graymane I had to register my disgust. The world cannot and should not stand by and watch disgusting atrocities committed. I know we do all the time. It is the lack of ability to do anything about it that makes us all angry. Edited on Sep 10, 2010, 06:21am | |
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| 09-10-10 08:20am - 5217 days | #61 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
The latest news is that their Rev. Terry Jones, who earlier said they wouldn't be burning Qurans, is now waffling about it, meaning that it's not 100% certain they won't be burning them. This he said from their -- now get this -- Dove World Outreach Center! Now is that Orwellian or what? You can never take things on face value, that's for sure! Here's the link to the CNN article. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 09-10-10 11:40am - 5217 days | #62 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I am adamantly against the death penalty anywhere. Stoning is really barbaric. However, we non Muslims should still have at least a minimal respect for every religion. If we don't give respect, we cannot ever get it in return. Burning the Koran is wrong, wrong, wrong. If Muslims stone for adultery for any crime that is wrong, wrong, wrong. These issues are not about making comparisons. If someone is wrong they deserve to be criticised. But we should not stoop to name calling or acting in ways we should not. Separation of church and state in a multicultural country or even a multicultural world requires respecting others and being fair. I agree that Muslims are overly sensitive regarding thier religion, but lets not make this an issue of us and them. They are us and we are them. Memories of the past still haunt us in Muslim countries. There is still resentment towards the West regarding the crusades, hundreds of years ago as well as colonialism in more recent times. Make yet another source of resentment and how can we ever get past it? Sorry but needlessly offending others is just not acceptable. Edited on Sep 10, 2010, 11:49am | |
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| 09-10-10 12:22pm - 5217 days | #63 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
Some of these practices like stoning aren't as much inspired by the Islamic religion as they are by cultural tradition. Taliban like practices of banning music, requiring women to wear burkhas, stoning, cutting off limbs for criminal acts, female circumcision, etc. are justified as being religious in nature when they aren't really followed by many Islamic countries or even called for in the Quoran. It's just long standing practice that is "justified" using religion. My only beef with the Muslim world is that there doesn't seem to be much of a moderate or self critical segment that speaks out against their own stupidity (Christianity has its own long and unimpressive track record of stupidity). From a western perspective, I see hypocrisy when imams call for demonstrations and apologies when some cartoonist makes fun of Mohammed but then they turn around and call for the destruction of Israel and demonize the hell out of Jewish and Christian religious icons. Anyway, a lot of the whole circus that has become the Ground Zero Mosque and Book Burning for Dummies 101 is just another example of our overhyped media. With so many new outlets jostling for exposure, every quack or extremist can get face time just by doing or saying something gonzo. The media sometimes doesn't act responsibly by asking "is this news", instead they just want to be first or jump on the wagon to fill air time or web space; essentially creating "news" that is polarizing because it's so much easier to discuss and dissect (and a ratings grabber too) than trying to explain or analyze something like economic policy. It's just easier and more satisfying to immerse your mind(and the media's own collective two celled mind) in junk journalism than it is to tackle the unpleasant or difficult issues of the world. | |
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| 09-10-10 12:52pm - 5217 days | #64 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Or that small events such as this are very representative of things as a whole. In many ways Jones is doing for America and Christianity what a few terrorists have done for many of the Muslim countries and the Muslim faith in general. He, with the generous and hyperbolic help of the media, has been able to turn a fairly small and idiotic act into another PR fuck-up for America. It's hard to see the U.S. as a tolerant and rational place when close-minded xenophobes such as Jones and his church get such a large amount of press (our various laws regarding social issues certainly don't help either). Like the stoning-for-adultery case in Iran, I wish this guy would try and think about the big picture; the U.S. still has thousands of troops in Muslim countries (and not just Iraq and Afghanistan) who are seen largely as unwelcome imperialist invaders. This latest stunt from the states is just the cheery on top for people living in these countries who have to put with occupying forces. Seeing images or at least hearing about plans to burn their holy book is not exactly an impetus to win hearts and minds. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 09-10-10 12:55pm - 5217 days | #65 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Wittyguy touches on something very profound and is something I have been trying to say in a clumsy sort of way. If at the heart of Islam is a people who consider stoning for adultery, and murdering someone for something they said, as just, then on no account do I respect that religion, or the people, and imo, nor should civilized society. If however there are what we could consider to be moderate muslims out there, now would be the time to stand up and say something, because the impression is of a people who support uncivilized behaviour and disgusting acts. If there are muslims against the fatwa and stoning there is some hope. If the religion has been hijacked by radicals, but the people on the ground believe in the religion but not the barbaric acts of their leaders and radicals there is hope. It all depends on whether there are a number of moderates who genuinely do not support the fatwa or stoning. That is the heart of the matter. Because if the people as a whole support the fatwa and the stoning, neither they nor the religion deserve any respect whatsoever. | |
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| 09-10-10 01:02pm - 5217 days | #66 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Context and reality are frequently unpopular with the mainstream news media because they interfere with their narrative that the world is only full of quick-to-anger extremists and dangerous people in general. Polarizing opinions and viewpoints full of passion and gut feeling, though not necessarily facts or evidence, are the norm. I would like to see coverage of a rational Christian-led condemnation of this but that doesn't fit the media's view of the world so it's not going to happen. As I said above, it's just more misrepresentation of reality. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 09-10-10 02:17pm - 5217 days | #67 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I agree on all counts. The media "looks" like the mainstream, but so often it just becomes a kind of globally reaching megaphone for the lunatic fringe. All they have to do is come up with something with enough "charge" to it and they've got us all preoccupied. I know don't how many times I've had to make the choice as to whether to ignore it or to say something. But in this case, I think we are right to protest. The silver lining is that these people are being shown for what they are: hateful, intolerant, and small ... very small. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 09-11-10 01:07am - 5216 days | #68 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Just wanted to point out that there are many moderate muslims that condemn actions of extremists. Unfortunately, these muslims don't produce a good story, and certainly don't follow with Fox News' chosen story line, so you don't see them too often if at all. If you listen to NPR or watch any of the Sunday morning news programs, they have moderate muslims on all the time. These stories just don't produce the ratings for most news organizations, where's the ratings in talking to reasonable people? I am curious why people are so quick to jump on Islam, and condemning the religion as a whole for their extremists when they don't do the same for christians? In the same way that I'm sure most Christians don't want Pat Robertson or this fuckwit in Gainesville to be the voice of their religion, most Muslims don't want the extremists to be the voice of theirs. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 09-11-10 11:13am - 5216 days | #69 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Just for the record, those who'll read my last post carefully will notice that nowhere in it is the word "Islam" mentioned. The vitriolic rage that is now all consuming is directed solely to those who engage in and/or espouse to this heinously barberic practice of stoning... Whoever, wherever, whatever, or what ever-ever entity that fits that description are in the crosshair. I'm not targeting any particular religion or their "bible".....And I certainly realize there are a fair share of Islamics who are strongly against this or any form of execution...and to those a deserving respect in clearly in order. But dammit....the gloves come off and I have my own vision of justice that should befall every last one of those pieces of  that were involved in any way concerning the stoning of that young, frightened, and helpless girl.I'll refrain from posting the "justice" I have in mind, lest our esteemed and omnipresent overseer (Kahn) accept the invitation I gave to the stoning perperators about coming after my head. | |
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| 09-11-10 03:31pm - 5216 days | #70 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Most likely because of the severity of events in the past few years; 9/11, the attacks in Spain and Britain, the violent reactions to the Danish cartoons. These were are all perpetrated, at least so far as the evidence shows, by Muslims. Regardless of whether or not they were motivated more by politics than religion, it's very easy to blame these things on 'radical Islam.' Yes, 'radical Christians' have had their share of violence in the same time frame but not quite on the same scale and usually more specifically targeted violence--abortion doctors, gays, blacks, etc., not terrorizing a general population. Of course if you view recent U.S. military action as Christian-based than obviously that changes things, but I think most reasonable people would call that nonsense. The problem is these radical Muslims may not even being doing things for purely religious reasons. They never attacked on 9/11 because they "hate us for our freedom" as W. liked to remind us so often. Unless the "freedom" is referring to how our (U.S.) actions overseas affects people's lives around the world, then yes, they hate us for that freedom. But I betting most of these people are upset and resort to violence because of our foreign policy. In fact if you ever read or watch any of those '90s interviews with Bin Laden his anger is over the U.S. keeping a military presence in Saudi Arabia (which is considered a holy land to Muslims), our support for the Saudi royal family, which he considers corrupt, as well as our support for Israel. He does constantly invoke god into his ranting but his motives all go back to American foreign policy in the Middle East. His fatwa from the mid-'90s does target all Jews but also all Americans, not just Christian Americans or Christians in general. But to the topic of the (postponed? cancelled?) Koran burning, I think it's pretty obvious why Muslims everywhere would be so upset and offended, even if Jones' intent was to specifically protest radical Muslims. He could have instead planned to burn photos of the 'top' wanted terrorists or an effigy of Bin Laden to make it a little clearer--okay, a lot more clearer--who he and his church were protesting. Hell, I have never even see those angry crowds in Middle Eastern countries burning bibles, they torch effigies and flags and I think the message is pretty obvious. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Sep 11, 2010, 03:35pm | |
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| 09-11-10 03:53pm - 5216 days | #71 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Iran is sort of a sticky situation because it's a theocracy, so to be angry over Iranian law could be seen as being angry over Islam. That is, it's not purely politics in Iran, but religion plays a major role, if not the only role in legal cases such as this. It's really just extremism though, like the child rape scandals of the Catholic church. To be upset over those crimes is I think the most natural and humane reaction, but it's not a condemnation of the religion as a whole. Sadly, Iran is probably not the most conservatively Muslim country in the Middle East. Read up a little on some of Saudi Arabia's laws, specifically how they relate to the freedoms, or lack thereof, of women--they are appalling by any modern, progressive standard of the West. But the West has a fairly good relationship with the Saudis so that discussion is over before it's even started.  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 09-11-10 06:51pm - 5215 days | #72 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Thanks, turboshaft, for a very astute and informative analysis having to do with this sensitive matter. Contrary to my precipitous forum action resulting from a belly-full of all the Un-Godly, cruel and barbaric treatment brought against women having the brutal misfortune of living in that satanic region..(unlike me)...... It's clear you did your homework. I couldn't look at the video, of what was discribed as a wild, frenzied slimly, reptilian bunch of brain-rots getting off servicing their bloodlust upon a young, frightened girl. Edited on Sep 12, 2010, 08:54am | |
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| 09-12-10 01:17am - 5215 days | #73 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
True Turboshaft, and I agree that there are many countries that would have what we consider backwards policies with respect to women, however this is not a strictly Islamic issue. Just like with the Saudis there are many developing countries which have subpar women/human rights records, however we are all too willing to not raise a stink because they help our big corporations make money. graymane, to blame and entire country's population for any misdeed is almost always misguided. I'm sure you are exaggerating to some extent, but this type of logic is what a lot of extremist groups use to turn people (your father was killed by an American bomb, you should go kill Americans). Also, history has shown that violence rarely solves anything. We should be trying to teach the value of life, rather than preaching destroying it. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 09-12-10 08:35am - 5215 days | #74 | |
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Monahan (0)
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| 09-12-10 09:45am - 5215 days | #75 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Of course I'm exaggerating....I guess I should've choosen my word more carefully by narrowing my implication specifically to extremist and the corrupt leadership. "Nuking" was a figure of speech I've since dropped, subsequently I would hope those, like yourself, didn't interpret it to mean we throw the baby out with the wash-water. I'm certainly not seriously suggesing we take out innocent women and children Edited by Staff on Sep 15, 2010, 01:51pm (Khan: fixed quoteback) | |
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| 09-15-10 12:56pm - 5212 days | #76 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
I figured this was a good way to close out this topic: | |
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| 09-16-10 08:37am - 5211 days | #77 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Nice final to this thread.....guess that's the very bottom line: "Don't show it off in public"!!!! "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 09-16-10 07:17pm - 5210 days | #78 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I'd still be less offended if people replaced all their Jesus and cross merchandise with penile symbols, though I'd think Pfizer (Viagra manufacturer) might get in on that business too. Also to compare religion to a penis...well, that just insulting to penises everywhere! Of course it's already happened with the sex toy companies; just check out the Jackhammer Jesus, or probably the ultimate in anal-Christian blasphemy, the Baby Jesus Butt Plug. "South Park" has nothing on these guys. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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