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| 08-15-13 05:13am - 4147 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Still too much wham-bam-thank-you-mam in porn Why, oh why is it so rare (still) to watch vids without a little strip or at least posing before the act/acts. Is the majority of porn-fans into just suck, fuck and close-ups? Way too few producers tend to the foreplay, the showing of the female body as mentioned above.....too many scenes are a little fully clothes cuddling on a sofa or bed - then focusing on the act....... Let's have more posing/strip - and I don't mind if it's half of the vid........  "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 08-15-13 09:51am - 4147 days | #2 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Hear Hear, Some feels like a circus act now days. And now here they are for your pleasure two people having sex. ENJOY  Agree 100% Denner. Since 2007 | |
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| 08-15-13 12:28pm - 4147 days | #3 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thank you for posting this, Denner. This is exactly the way I feel. Trouble is porn is headed the other way. There is one forum participant right here who likes to edit all the "unnecessary stuff" from a scene and just keep what's "important!" iow, the sex part only and I am sure he is not the only one, my friend. Times have changed. This is exactly the reason why I have not been interested in porn for months. Preludes to sex, or teasing, or postludes are no longer wanted by the majority and cowardly (or financially scared) webmasters are giving in to the "all I want is the good stuff" crowd for fear of going down the tubes (no pun intended.) I wish there were such a thing as "chick porn" where things would be less crass and tasteless. I like sex scenes as much as the next guy but in order for me to enjoy them there has to be more to it than a blow job starting with the first frame of the video.  Talking about frightened webmasters. One who runs one of my formerly favorite solo sites has just announced that his subscribers can expect b/g picture sets and movies in the future. Yipee .. just what I didn't want to see. The b/g crowd is driving me crazy. What the hell is wrong with a beautiful woman doing a solo and sticking to that format (as a webmaster/owner) if that's how you started. There is more than enough b/g content already in thousands of other sites. Why ruin the few softcore/midcore sites that were left? I look at hardcore but mourn the passing of the pure (with leisurely stripping) solo sites. Edited on Aug 15, 2013, 10:41pm | |
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| 08-15-13 01:55pm - 4147 days | #4 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I have a few videos from the original ddgirls when they first started. The ladies seemed innocent and sexy as soft and lezbian scenes seemed almost like they cared about each other. I saved them because of the intensity with out the roughness was a wow moment in the site. They still do well at quality but as I have seen much was missing. After I last joined 21st Sex websites I was taken back on some of the videos that the foreplay was less then 2 minutes. Some solos were good but sex scenes are rushed. I hate when you can tell some was left on the cutting room floor. I have a keen eye and can npt watch any regular movie or porn without catching inconsistencies. Or when they move scenes around to put something somewhere else, when it can be seen lighting outside changed dramatically. Or stuff moved in the rooms. and then is back a few minutes later. There are a few out that that remain my favorites and most are more erotic then sex, I have some nude dancing of well known stars that is really good an a nice grind and shake goes along way in my book. Since 2007 | |
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| 08-15-13 02:11pm - 4147 days | #5 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
^ What's the full name of ddgirls, ct? Is there anything of the "innocent, sexy, soft" left in the present site? Thanks. | |
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| 08-15-13 06:05pm - 4147 days | #6 | |
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Marphel (0)
Active User Posts: 10 Registered: Mar 08, '11 Location: USA |
Excellent thread Denner, I agree with you 100%. I want to see more posing, stripping, and teasing in videos with the camera focused on the FEMALE performer(s). I subscribe to porn sites for one reason: to see beautiful women in erotic/sensual performances. But, it's becoming impossible to find that these days. Besides the "suck, fuck, and close-ups" formula so many porn sites cling to, there is way too much attention paid to the male performers. Too many picture sets and videos are ruined by undue attention given to the males. I hate the repeated close-ups of male faces, male ass cracks, hairy legs, hands constantly grabbing pawing and blocking your view of the female. My interest in porn begins and ends with beautiful women. I wish there were more porn sites who share that interest. Edited on Aug 15, 2013, 06:09pm | |
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| 08-15-13 06:16pm - 4147 days | #7 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I agree with you guys and I wish we'd see more of that but sadly we live in an era when a woman like Bonnie Rotten is considered the epitome of beauty in porn. She has a very beautiful face but you are either a die hard tattoo fan or you are blind if you think the rest of her body is remotely close to beautiful. How can you expect anyone to bother with stripping and teasing when all the studios want to hire her to get fucked in every orifice her body has. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 08-15-13 06:51pm - 4147 days | #8 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User  Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
I tried this once years ago, because I was running out of hard disk space. I would strongly advise anyone against doing this. I now view the few hundred clips that I cropped as basically useless, and I have gotten most of the originals back. Here's the biggest problem with cropping - you are destroying the quality of the part that you save too!!! Unless you have the original uncompressed video file, and you probably do not, you cannot crop without degrading the quality of the video! That is because cropping cannot be done on a compressed file like an .mpeg directly. Software that does cropping works by converting the compressed file back into an uncompressed file, making changes, and then re-applying compression. Because compression is applied across frames, the part that you save will be compressed differently, even if you use the exact same type of compression. It is like compressing the video a second time - more data is lost, and the picture quality becomes less clear. I also agree with you guys that the soft stuff is often the best. Sometimes all the action seems like noise when you just want to spend some time admiring a model's body. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 08-15-13 07:27pm - 4147 days | #9 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I think now its Digital Desire, Messmer. Since 2007 | |
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| 08-15-13 10:47pm - 4147 days | #10 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
AMEN, BROTHER!  | |
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| 08-15-13 10:47pm - 4147 days | #11 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, CT!  | |
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| 08-15-13 10:51pm - 4147 days | #12 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I've never heard of Bonnie Rotten, Pat. What sites does she appear in? Just curious. | |
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| 08-16-13 12:03am - 4146 days | #13 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Another timely thread from the master....... From which I hardily applaud those who're in steadfast agreement with this sagely, important message... And one who fiercely echoes the mournful plea from all who're in harmony with what you're so valiantly keeping alive commencing with reminders relative to this unattended yet vital requisite. Speaking of echoes, I couldn't resound one any louder than these coming from posts featured herein by PU's grand consummate of eloquence ...... our inimitable messmer. Also, I might add, flagrant absentee and abusive practitioner of periodic stints of AWOL and isolation unbecoming a PU Award holder..  | |
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| 08-16-13 05:07am - 4146 days | #14 | |
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marcdc1 (0)
Active User  Posts: 139 Registered: Jan 10, '07 Location: New York |
Thank you for a very clear explanation. I of a process I've been using for years. While I haven't noticed much loss of quality, I bet I will when I upgrade my monitor.  | |
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| 08-16-13 07:13am - 4146 days | #15 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Yes some of my older video from the old monitors get so outta sync they look bad and take some edits to show up ok. Since 2007 | |
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| 08-16-13 11:30am - 4146 days | #16 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
LOL. Thanks for the compliment, graymane. However, I am never "flagrantly absent." I am always here, every day. But the subject has to be of interest to me before I put my two cents worth of opinion in. I could treat you to a daily post on how there should be more sites with mature women shedding their clothes slowly, revealing erotic lingerie in the process of getting nude .. but then the crowd would start throwing rotten tomatoes at me.  But, thanks friend for noticing my periodic absences. I am touched! Truly! | |
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| 08-16-13 02:44pm - 4146 days | #17 | |
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skunk (0)
Active Webmaster  Posts: 56 Registered: Jun 21, '12 Location: UK/london |
Hi you need to look for erotic films for that or porn made for females by females for a little fully clothes cuddling on a sofa or bed - then focusing on the act porn is about suck, fuck, fisting,ws and so on, it not about loving relationships bit now. 
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| 08-16-13 06:03pm - 4146 days | #18 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Commendable observation, Sir messmer. So Again ..... You are, indeed, entirely correct at being correct. Allow me, if you will, my good man, joining thee to cease and decease the ill-defined word "flagrantly" as it has to do with an ill-fated attempt to vent our concerns of your recent absence by injecting some drama where it's now proven not to fit . I suspect the word unthinkingly materialized out of an unsettled feeling concerning your current inactivity, the consequences of which we who know you being rendered a blow more felt than we care to admit. | |
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| 08-16-13 06:21pm - 4146 days | #19 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Here's her data 18 page. It probably doesn't have all her stuff but it's a decent start. http://www.data18.com/bonnie_rotten/ Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 08-16-13 11:55pm - 4145 days | #20 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I know how you feel, friend. It is the same unsettled feeling I get when I don't see your name for a while. I am also terribly sorry about the misery you've gone through in the recent past. Hope you are feeling a bit better. The golden age isn't what it is cracked up to be! | |
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| 08-17-13 01:27am - 4145 days | #21 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Rotten tomatoes if you're lucky!  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 08-17-13 01:29am - 4145 days | #22 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Who's to say you can't have all those in a loving relationship?  (Besides the girlfriend!  ) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 08-17-13 09:22am - 4145 days | #23 | |
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thirstyfish (0)
Active User  Posts: 30 Registered: May 20, '13 |
Porn does seem to be a lot of wham/bam macho stuff. Especially agreeing with Marphel regarding scenes that focus too much on the male performers. Perhaps this is because too many of them are pretending to be 'directors'. I don't like scenes that are little more than insipid, stunt-ridden performances by the guys with the women relegated to being sockets. These scenes (of which there are way too many) seem like pro wrestling: obviously scripted, staged, and entirely predictable in outcome. Porn happens because a large number of things amazingly fail to go wrong. | |
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| 08-17-13 11:12am - 4145 days | #24 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
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| 08-17-13 12:54pm - 4145 days | #25 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Thanks for the kind words, Partner. The way I see it, you and I seemingly being the oldest perverts around here, an' all .....it only makes sense we stick together. And yeah, this cervical surgery I recently had, having left me in a world of pain, and what with the hardware replacing a section of my spine consisting of nothing but wires, rods, nuts, bolts and screws, supposedly to prevent my head from rolling off my shoulders, actually, feeling night and day its going to do just that. And if that isn't bad enough, my surgeon has a bedside manner that gives new meaning to arrogance, as well as heavily overdosed with Delusions of Grandeur. So, With one foot in a grave and the other on a banana peel, it follows inasmuch as no one in my sehere of friends or relatives are about to log onto Porn Users to inform them of a sudden demise, I've asked Khan that should my activity in this site stop long enough to leave no doubt of my return ..... then it can mean only one thing, that I'll likely be in the company of previous earthly perverts on the other side. | |
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| 08-17-13 01:05pm - 4145 days | #26 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Yeah, the POV of the kind where the girl strips and talks as if to only the viewer, followed by sex with a real one (face never shown) would be OK. I think there's been some of that around, perhaps, but I can't recall any off hand, if you'll pardon the expression. And none of the girl's ass being smacked red and her neck being chokeheld. I really HATE that kind of crap. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 08-18-13 12:15pm - 4144 days | #27 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Man, I can't begin to tell you how sorry I am about all the misery you've had to go through. I suppose I will have to face the same thing sooner or later if I live long enough. I have had a narrowing disk in my neck for years that has caused me a lot of pain and misery but after a visit to a neurologist who told me: "Well, we'll have to enlarge the opening to give more room to the nerves going through, then we'll have to take a piece of bone from your hip to fuse it with the disk .. that might do it." Then his parting words of wisdom: "Of course, there's no guarantee!!!!????" So I asked him, "what's my second option" and he said "pain relievers" and that's what I have been taking for the past 30 years! Sometimes they help, sometimes they don't, but better than his scenario. At least until I get to a point where paralysis becomes a possibility because the narrowing disk now chokes the bundle of nerves going through it. Aaaah, life!! | |
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| 08-18-13 10:23pm - 4144 days | #28 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Not to minimize your cervical problem, my good man, but let me say what I had done was about as aggressively invasive as it gets. It's termed as major surgery with a nine-plus on a scale from one to ten in rank. post surgical expectation of complications ranks way-up there. I should know, because it awarded me a massive life-threating blood clot in my left leg ... as well as the onset of unrelenting and severe lower back pain. Called "Cervical stenosis" mine was a degenerative disease where the spinal canal and neural framing narrow and compress the spinal cord and nerve roots. Wherein my spine was actually sawed through and metal replacing and supporting the damaged area (a six hour procedure) In contras I'm guessing your neck situation is a classic cervical condition (common to the elderly) where nerves are being crunched from bone loss -- requiring simply replacing the vacancy with bone from another source, wherein it roots into permanently becoming that missing part -- taking pressure off the effective nerves. From what I hear, bone taken from the hip presents more pain than one experiences from the actual implant. But hear this ....Now, one can forego going to the hip by getting a compatible match from a bone bank. From what you've related already, it appears to me you have a dammed good surgeon. By that I mean (contrary to my case) he's completely up front with the good-bad-an-the-ugly......... the guy who took me on said only I would have some pain. It's clear to me he wanted to go right in. Maybe it's the $50,000.00 plus I suspect he'll pocket from my insurer. | |
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| 08-19-13 08:31am - 4143 days | #29 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Greymane I for one appreciate your unique perspective that you bring to the forum, I know I am happy to see you post and that tells me that you are doing ok. There is a certain comradely in that exists around here. Perhaps that why the website changes have my not happy as it may take away from a very unique set of standards I for one have not see anywhere but here. We are all private people but seem to have some insight into each others lives. I think I speak for many when I say, we are pretty blessed to have you be a real person in this group. I would have to say you have to be the most open person on here about whom you are in real life and that pretty cool. So I for one hope that the one foot on the banana peel and one in the grave is along way off from now I think we all benefit having you hear I know I do . CT Since 2007 | |
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| 08-19-13 11:45am - 4143 days | #30 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Man, all I can say is that my troubles are as nothing compared to yours and I can only sympathize from the heart. Your story sounds absolutely horrible. If this happened to me it would depress the hell out of me. As to my surgeon: Canada's universal health care system (as shaky as it is at the moment) took care of the greed factor and has given us priceless peace of mind. My wife has been chronically ill for years and the only expense we've had after all her operations and treatments is the medications. | |
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| 08-19-13 04:39pm - 4143 days | #31 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Aww shucks, CT ...... now you've gone and got me all choked up. My appreciation for those kind and well chosen words are hard-pressed to reach the real depth and magnitude of how heartfelt and feel-good of an impact it's made. It is a joy and a proud privilege for me to serve with you among this site's great features and it's wonderfully unique crowd that makes it what it is. | |
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| 08-19-13 07:46pm - 4143 days | #32 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Depression? Oh yeah! Surviving my mom's demise (to whom I was very close) was a father who's history of general meanness, physical and tortured mental abuse to his only child, was so bad my mom's side of the family refused any and all visitation or verbal communication us what-so-ever. A worthless bum before he married my mom -- who, BTW, was fully responsible for his conversion that led to them amassing a respectable sum of money. Frugal during his marriage to mom, he became a switch-hitter after she passed ... meaning which he went on a spending frenzy after discovering the delight his money could afford him with the approach of his new-found pleasures ...which included the company of beauties there-to-fore he'd never experienced. His year 2001 passing, from complication bought on by Parkinson, a debilitating and later three year bedridden condition to which I was his caregiver 24-7, however never thwarted his interest in the ladies -- one of whom wiggled her way into becoming his bookkeeper, and the couple or more others who (like circling vultures), knowing about his hefty holdings and penchant for wielding a check-book, visited him from time to time just to stay in his good graces. OH YES, we were talking about my depression! Upon the reading of his will -- discovering his "praise the Lord" self proclaimed Christian bookkeeper was instrumental in diverting his entire estate to her ...... leaving his war-torn, caregiver son with an infinitesimal fraction of the bulk of his estate. So, not only was I bilked out of my inheritance of probably over a million dollars, I was further given notice I had thirty days to leave our palatial home. She had already put it on the market. Oh, one more thing ...... Unbelievable as it may seem -- but I swear its the truth: After three months wearing a cumbersum neck collar and my neck fresh into the healing process; And finally given the green light to drive ....... For the first time in my life, at 9:00 pm on the 5th of August, my car was rear-ended ... giving me a whiplash that conceivably may send me back to the hospital to go through the same ordeal. As I'm now about to get out of my chair, after the long seating to write this.... the first thing I'm doing is reach for my neck collar. something I now need but normally wouldn't be necessary and abandoned. My lovely primary-care physician tells me I'm depressed and wants to prescribe some moodie pills. Me, depressed? why would she think that? | |
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| 08-20-13 12:07pm - 4142 days | #33 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Graymane, my friend, the things that happened to you are like things that happen in horror movies or books. I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy! For once I am extending a manly hug of sympathy to a member of my own sex! You not only had a terrible operation and its painful consequences but also an unimaginably hurtful life. Your cynicism threshold must be awfully high because you come across as a very positive and caring person who always gives others a little boost in his posts. I always thought that Nietzsche's: whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger was a bit of a platitude and not applicable in my case but maybe it was true in yours. | |
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| 08-20-13 12:26pm - 4142 days | #34 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Thanks, my friend ....... those are very comforting and uplifting words, and I will add that they're infinitely more therapeutic than your $160 per hour shrink or what they put in pills and bottles. And WOW! that hug was something else. | |
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| 08-20-13 02:56pm - 4142 days | #35 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I can only hope that the moral support engendered by sharing this with your virtual friends, goes someway to mitigate the suffering & raise your mood. You have many friends here, G. Oh and congrats on your millennium!  Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 08-20-13 08:25pm - 4142 days | #36 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Many thanks, Cap'n. Most assuredly, I can say without reservation that my more happier moments during my waking hours are derived focused right here in the PU arena, locking horns and throwing high-fives with the finest bunch of guys on this planet. I regret that I don't buy into as many pay-sites as most of my fellow members here do, hence the low number of reviews I summit .... but I do make it my business to stay on top of things via a couple permanent memberships to sites that provide smaller bites of the same stuff we get from many of the more popular sites. Now you know why I spend so much time on the forum. As far as hard times go, what little you've seen so far is but the tip of the iceberg. If I were to open up and continued feeding this thread with but a fraction of what people here would label horrible and disbelieving that I've gone through .... I then suspect it would bring you right up out of your chair. Those few who currently surround me, whom I'd consider close, who know very well about my increment, rocky trek from childhood on up, all have urged me to write a book. I think its a little too late for that, however. So, my good friend, in light of a book still on the back burner, you and all others who tune into our little community here at PU can be recipients of further excerpts of this morbid little saga if they think it worth their while to follow it. Thanks again Capn for taking the time to express your thoughts. | |
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