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| 02-04-09 03:48am - 5762 days | #51 | |
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jr2375 (0)
Active User Posts: 21 Registered: Jul 23, '08 Location: North America |
That is a bit steep. However, I remember the time when hard drive storage went for $1000 per Mb. | |
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| 02-04-09 10:30pm - 5761 days | #52 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User  Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
I am damn glad they are not that high now. Hum....perhaps I should go back in time....think about it, a 1 GB drive would b worth a million at that rate. I could have over 22 billion dollars!!! Hell yeah!! Where is my time machine? :) Dont worry though, these SSDs will come down in price. They would be ideal especially for laptops and such. But for a normal desktop I do not think the demand will be there for a while, particularly for just storing bunches of porn and other stuff (porn). Unless you do some hardcore HD video capturing and such it really is not necessary to speed up the drive's capabilities. Obviously they are more than fast enough to read 8 Mbit videos and write at the same time. Basically, for as long as there is a cost difference between the two, I will be sticking with the normal drives for simple storage. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-05-09 09:25am - 5761 days | #53 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User  Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
My first desktop (1980) was an IBM 8088 with dual 5-1/4" floppy drives, 640Kb of RAM and no hard drive. My employer agreed to buy me a 20 Mb external Winchester hard drive for $500. This capacity was so far beyond my comprehension that I figured it would be sufficient for the next several decades. Right now external drives are getting cheaper very quickly. A 1 Tb 7200 RPM drive is available today for $119.95 when as recently as 4 years ago you'd be looking at close to $1,000 for the same capacity but a 5400 RPM drive. The reason? SSD's will probably be the standard by 2010 which will make prices even lower. That's a good thing for us horn dogs who can store our stash, even on redundant hard drives, at a relatively low cost. | |
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| 02-05-09 12:17pm - 5761 days | #54 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
That's pretty funny, but we are all guilty of thinking we somehow outsmarted the inevitability of obsolescence. Every single time I buy some sort of electronic I always think "I am so smart, this is more than enough space/speed/coolness to suit my needs." Then a few months later reality slaps me in the face for being such a know-it-all ass. It's kind of a reverse of when you're hungry and your eyes and brain are bigger than your stomach, so you take more than you can eat. (Actually, I tend to have this problem with big sites, but instead of my stomach it's my hard drive.) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 02-05-09 01:21pm - 5761 days | #55 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
I kinda like your analogy TurboShaft. I have solved the too much food you my stomach issue. Doggy-bags! Basically, keep it around for later. there is nothing wrong with porn leftovers. They keep better than real leftovers too! "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-05-09 07:32pm - 5761 days | #56 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Thanks! You are definitely right about the porn leftovers; I am still enjoying a few things from the '90s. Granted, it's not much, but some porn can age quite well, while a lot can get stale really quickly. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 02-05-09 07:59pm - 5761 days | #57 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 02-05-09 08:23pm - 5761 days | #58 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Oh WittyGuy, you gotta stop it! You are cracking me up! I guess I would be anal about others having porn too if I could not keep it. Imagine having to search out sites that have been ideal for 10 years just to find content that you can actually load up on your machine. I remember using a Commador 64 way back when I was a young pup who did not know porn existed. Now my calculator could beat the snot out of that machine. Back when floppy disks where actually floppy. Yup, I will not not be trading in my stuff to get in touch with my "root" anytime soon. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-05-09 11:40pm - 5760 days | #59 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Alright. This is getting a bit ridiculous. I have had an ongoing project for the longest time to come up with a scalable, economical solution to storing all my hard drives. I believe I have found a decent solution and am currently putting it together, hopefully will be testing it this weekend assuming UPS meets their delivery schedule. While getting the drive set up in these new rack-mounts I just got I notice that I have a 1 TB and a 750 GB drive that I did not even know I had. Of course they are already full, but that is 1750 GB that managed to go unnoticed during my last count a week or so ago. This brings the count up to 24 TB with about 4 TB of free space. I was also thinking about how to back everything up, or if it is even worth it. Anything would be expensive, but dvds would be the cheapest. Of course with would take about 4000 dvds at $0.20a piece and 8 minutes to write, which is over 500 hour of solid writing. Hard drive backup would be ideal, but even at best prices per GB it would be $1850. Blu-Rays are down to about $3 for a 25 GB disk. Which would cost a bit more than the hard drives. About $2400. However, the price of Blu-Ray has been dropping. If we say it gets down to a dollar per disk that is only $0.04 per GB which is about the price of a dvd per GB. Or course 25 GB is a lot better than 4.7 when writing many TB worth of data. If the 50 GB disks become reasonably priced I would not be surprised to see people using them in place of hard drives for porn and such. Perhaps soon massive storage will become much cheaper, assuming you do not mind changing disks to get to different parts of your collection. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-06-09 01:03am - 5760 days | #60 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
The most reliable way to back up a hard drive is usually with another hard drive - mirrored drives keep you safe. The problem with DVD or CD backup is that without investing in Archival Gold Grade discs (Rated for 100 Year Lifespan in optimal conditions) is that you have no idea how long the discs will last before their layers separate and become useless. Taiyo Yuden discs manufactured in Japan (they do use factories in other countries, but you can only trust the Japanese factories for top quality) make a few lines of reasonably priced discs that will probably last you at 20 years. But again, that raises the price from that market bottom of 15 cents a disc. Gold rated discs are way more expensive. Not to mention you'll be storing 513 lbs of DVDs - even if you only have them stored in slimline CD cases. (That's from 50 DVDs weight 910 grams and 200 slimline CD cases weight 8 kilograms.) "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 02-06-09 11:00am - 5760 days | #61 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 02-06-09 11:30am - 5760 days | #62 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
WittyGuy. That is not a bad idea at all. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-07-09 02:25am - 5759 days | #63 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Carbonite. badandy400 could really make them really regret their policy of unlimited backups - not to mention really test their infrastructure. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 02-07-09 03:23am - 5759 days | #64 | |
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morgentau (0)
Active User  Posts: 7 Registered: Nov 24, '08 Location: Germany |
The Thecus N7700 NAS holds up to 7 disks and supports different RAID levels. http://www.thecus.com/products_over.php?cid=11&pid=82 You can also connect several of them into some uber-cluster-thing. | |
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| 02-07-09 10:04pm - 5758 days | #65 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Morqentau. That systems looks pretty cool, but is very expensive. $700 is hardly worth an enclosure with no drives. If the thing was loaded with at least 750 GB drives it might be a little different. Creating multidrive enclosures is not an expensive thing to do, buying them ready to go is. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-07-09 11:21pm - 5758 days | #66 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Toadsith, I checked them out. I am thinking of giving them a call and seeing what they would say. I bet they would not be willing to accept my system. They would likely call it more than one computer. I am currently at 18-20 TB of porn alone. At $50 per year and unlimited space they would never recover even the hardware cost, even if they use lower end consumer class drives. I believe part of what they do to limit the volume is limit the connection speed. They even state on the site that it will be slow due to "current DSL and Cable speeds"....? Plus me being on asymmetrical DSL I could never get it uploaded with out going somewhere else to do it. It would still be pretty funny though. It seems like they want to keep people limited to a few dozen GB by limiting the upload speed. Since the program runs without user input I do not figure I could tell it to use several connections. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-08-09 09:07am - 5758 days | #67 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
The way that system works is that the program monitors the drives / files you tell it to - and uploads as necessary. Most DSL/Cable upload speeds gives you max 150KB/s sustained upload, so if you are uploading gigs, well it takes a while. My work computer uses Carbonite and it took near on a month for it to finish backing up, but the work connection is really slow (25 KB/s up) and I was backing up 70 gigabytes. When they say unlimited, they do mean it, just to get it to work, you'll need to be able to access all of your drives at the same time. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 02-08-09 09:17am - 5758 days | #68 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
I am a Carbonite customer right now and you nailed it. I use it to back up my 900 Mb "My Documents" directory that contains all of my basic stuff (tax files, correspondence, spreadsheets, pdf's, etc.) I do not include the My Pictures and My Videos directories. The process starts with your designating the files/directories you want to back up, then starting the upload process. The process all happens in the background but you can check periodically to see the progress. If your computer goes into hibernate or you log off completely, the upload is suspended and will resume with no user intervention required once the computer is back on line. The initial backup process, for me, took about 3 days to complete. In other words, the slow upload speed is the primary limitation imposed by Carbonite. I also used the restore backup procedure to download my backup to a new computer. That process is just about as slow as the upload. Therefore the Carbonite idea should be looked upon as the cyber equivalent of having your stash backed up on CD's or hard drives that are stored in an offsite Public Storage facility that you'd need to spend a lot of time accessing. Their business model, clearly, involves huge amounts of high capacity storage but relatively little bandwidth, and is useful only for ensuring that the stash is not lost through accident or error. It's not a way to secure stuff to which you would like quick access. | |
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| 02-08-09 09:20am - 5758 days | #69 | |
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kkman112 (0)
Active User Posts: 56 Registered: Mar 31, '07 Location: United States |
I have: Generic Barebones Case Intel Core 2 Duo E5200 2.5GHz (45nm) 4GB OCZ DDR2-800 (PC2-6400) ATI Radeon HD 2600 (PCI-e) Creative Labs Audigy 2 2x WD SATA-2 160GB 2x WD USB2.0 80GB I plan to get a new computer probably 2010. I am waiting for 2 things: 1. Next generation processor (after the current Intel i7 / AMD Phenom) - eg. Intel Sandy Bridge / AMD Bulldozer (32 or less nm) 2. Next generation flash MLC (or equiv nano-memory) capable of at least 2x hard drive sustained speed and operating time. | |
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| 02-08-09 09:32am - 5758 days | #70 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Well flash memory drive designs with performance on par with that do exist today, but they simply cost near on 2 grand. As their popularity increases, the prices should come down, which will be nice for those of us that can't write it off as a business expense. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 02-09-09 06:05pm - 5757 days | #71 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
That sort of speed simply is not worth that kind of money, especially for porn. It would be much cheaper to use a striped raid set. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-10-09 05:59pm - 5756 days | #72 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 02-10-09 07:59pm - 5756 days | #73 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Of course you can paint your hard drive, although that might not site well with the warranty. Hard drives have a rotating disk. It is basically a glorified CD. Since it is rotating it become more susceptible to physical failures. Bearings go bad and people drop them on the floor while rotation at 7200 rpm. Just like a record spinning, if you tap on it, it will rub and do things you would rather it not do. Also, their is a mechanical arm that must move across the disk to access data, just like on a record. There is a time lapse (although short) between the drive reading data from one part of the drive to another. Flash storage is storage with no rotating mass and no seek arm, thus all else equal, a fast drive. In portable devises these are nice because moving around does not harm them. In desktops they are nice because they have more speed. Striping a drive set is a RAID function. There are a handful of functions now. Lets say for a moment we have two 500 GB hard drives. Normally when we plug them in they show up as two separate volumes. We have the option of making them show up as a signal drive, a spanned volume. Doing this will make them show up as a 1 TB drive, and as we download porn like no tomorrow the first drive fills up and then spans over to the second without interruption. Spanning actually is not necessary a RAID function. Mirroring a drive set is just as it sounds. We take the two 500 GB drive and end up with 500 GB of total storage. We see a single 500 GB volume on the computer, but everything we do to that drive is copied verbatim to the second. The point being if a drive were to fail the other drive would till contain all our porn, exactly as expected. This is a live backup, which means it is absolutely current. The trouble with these set ups is that they require you to buy twice as much drive space as needed, and of course offer no protection from the wife deleting the porn collection or a virus from giving all our favorite picture the HIV and herpes. As I said, it copies EVERYTHING. Now to your specific question about the Striped sets. This is like a spanned volume in that if we use two 500 GB drives we end up with 1 TB. But this set up is for performance. Instead of writing to one drive until it files up and then moving on to the second it write to both drive simultaneously. So if we download a 500 MB video half goes to the first drive and the second have goes to the second. Now for simple download thing make no true difference. but for video capturing and higher intensity processes this can be extremely useful because it raises the write speed of the drive. I do not believe it is actually double in a two drive set, but it does increase. Of course the more drives introduced the faster the set can perform since the drives share the load. One of the issues with a raid set such as the striped set with 2 drives is that if you lose one of the drive you likely lose most of your data because it was split up and now each file only contains half the data. The more drives used in the set the more likely you could recover damaged files due to a failure. To solve this issue they simply set up a mirror-strip set that acts just as a strip set in performance, you just have an extra set doing the exact same thing all the time. Some people use a Raid 5, and a few 6. This is a striped set that uses all but one drive, or 2 in a raid 6. The extra drive is called a live backup. I do not truly understand these set ups. But the idea is that if a drive fails in the set the backup drive become active and the missing data is restored to that drive. Once that happens the performance of the set drops off, and we simply replace the bad drive and act like it did not happen. Raid 6 is just for paranoid people who worry that 2 drives could fail simultaneously. For a Raid 5 you need at least 3 drives and there is always 1 drive unused. Say we have four 500 GB drives, we would see 1.5 TB on the computer. There are some others out there, but I doubt anyone cares to hear about them. These were the main ones you may hear about. Thing to keep in mind to is that generally once a raid set is made all the drives need to be present for it to work properly. Some set up allow more freedom, but this comes at a price. Basically: Spanned equals bigger, capacity of both drives Striped equals faster, bigger, capacity of both drives Mirrored equals safest, half of capacity of total drives Raid 5 equals speed and safety, capacity of all but one drive I recommend a mirrored striped set. That would look the coolest. PU green strips and mirror finish in between them. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-10-09 07:59pm - 5756 days | #74 | |
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plan b (0)
Active User Posts: 15 Registered: Apr 25, '08 Location: Oregon |
Dontcha love it when almost-year-old threads come back to life? I think badandy400 needs a new pseudonym: bad_ASS_andy400. Seriously, that's some serious storage there, I bow down to you. Seriously. :) My current setup is a 24" 2.4ghz iMac. But I've got like 4 laptops and 3 other desktop computers (most of which sit in my basement gathering dust). I thought I had an unjustifiable amount of porn storage, but now... not so much. 1 320GB internal, everything else external 2 LaCie 500GB FW800 drives (both have dual 250s in a striped RAID) 1 LaCie 500GB USB 2 Seagate 750GB Freeagent drives one USB one FW400 1 Seagate 300GB FW400 1 Maxtor 1TB Onetouch USB 1 Maxtor 120GB FW400 1 Cavalry USB SATA dock with a pair of WD 1TB Green drives 1 Simpletech 320GB 2.5" portable USB 1 WD 80GB Passport 2.5" portable USB 1 Iomega 250GB eGo 2.5" portable USB That all adds up to something close to 7.4 terabytes. I haven't done all the math but I probably have about 2 to 3 TB unused across all the disks. I'd estimate about 2/3 of what I have stored is porn with the rest being music & mainstream movies. | |
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| 02-10-09 08:07pm - 5756 days | #75 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Plan B. Seems like you have a thing for external drives! 7.4 TB is not chump change. LaCie drives tend to be a little above what I am willing to pay for them. If you want to expand in the future I would recommend using internal drives in the new $20 Sans Digital 5 HHD rack and using a Raid controller. It would be cheaper this way, although possible not as neat as true external enclosures. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-10-09 08:16pm - 5756 days | #76 | |
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plan b (0)
Active User Posts: 15 Registered: Apr 25, '08 Location: Oregon |
You get used to having externals when you have a Mac. It's one of the prices we learn to pay after drinking the kool aid. Brainwashing does have its associated costs after all. I did a quick search for that rack and I must say, if they ever made one like that with a FW interface and the ability to span them JBOD style, I'd be all over it. | |
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| 02-10-09 08:38pm - 5756 days | #77 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 02-11-09 01:13am - 5755 days | #78 | |
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shooterbo (0)
Active User  Posts: 185 Registered: Apr 25, '07 |
Hey guys, since we are on the ext. HD topic, both of mine are connected to USB slots on the rear of my desktop. I dont see anymore available back there. Now there are 2 on the front behind a flap. I have used them to DL camera pictures. Do you think they will work for additional ext. drive units? | |
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| 02-11-09 01:21am - 5755 days | #79 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Of course they will. USB is USB. Just want to be sure that it is USB 2 otherwise it might be a bit slower than you would like. Actually, some devices yell at you if you plug them into USB 1. Most newer computers are USB 2 pretty much everywhere. The only problem you can run into is it may look a little less attractive if that is a concern to you. You could also look into a cheap USB hub to keep everything tucked away neatly in the back. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-13-09 04:42am - 5753 days | #80 | |
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shooterbo (0)
Active User Posts: 185 Registered: Apr 25, '07 |
The female receptacles in front are identical to the USB 2's in back. I would assume USB 1's would not accept USB2 males, but they do. | |
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| 02-13-09 11:51am - 5753 days | #81 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Indeed they do. The speeds will of course conform to the weakest component. It is almost never safe to assume things about computers anymore. Everyone likes to do things differently and as soon as you get used to one way of doing things someone comes along and changes it. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-13-09 04:02pm - 5753 days | #82 | |
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shooterbo (0)
Active User Posts: 185 Registered: Apr 25, '07 |
So then, the fact that the front connections will accept a USB 2 male means they are, in fact, USB 2 receptacles and not USB 1?? | |
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| 02-13-09 06:42pm - 5753 days | #83 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
It means nothing. USB 2 is usually backwards compatible with USB 1. I hard drive usually will work no matter what type of USB port it is using. The difference is the speed that the data will travel. If I plug a USB 2 hard drive into a USB 1 plug, I get data transfers at a USB 1 level. Of course it is not forward compatible. A USB 1 device will will not run at USB 2 speeds when plugged into a USB2 port. There are come devices that require USB 2 to operate. Web cameras are a good example. They require a certain amount of bandwidth to send the data through. Unlike a hard drive this data must be sent in real time for it to work properly. A hard drive usually will operate slower if need be and the only effect is that speed. So a 10 minute transfer takes 30 minutes instead, or whatever the ratio is. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 02-13-09 06:47pm - 5753 days | #84 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
While there certainly no guarentee, there's a *very* good chance that if the back ports are USB2, then so are the front ports. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 02-13-09 07:10pm - 5753 days | #85 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 06-13-09 12:44am - 5633 days | #86 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Just want to bring this thread back to the front. See if anyone has any update or if any new members want to tell us about their porn-rig. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 06-13-09 01:15am - 5633 days | #87 | |
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Colm4 (0)
Active User  Posts: 117 Registered: Sep 22, '07 Location: Holland |
Well got a new pc a few weeks ago: Dual Core 8500, 4Gb Ram, 9800GTX+ 512Mb video. About 1,5 Tb in external drives. | |
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| 06-13-09 01:43am - 5633 days | #88 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
-AMD Phenom 9600 Quad-Core -500 GB RE2 WD harddrive -Vista 32 -Antec Nine Hundred -4 GB Corsair PC6400 RAM (Stole from my other computer) -Vortex 700W modular power supply -ASUS M4A78 PRO AM2+/AM2 AMD 780G HDMI ATX -22x SATA DVD writer -ZOTAC ZT-96TES3D-FSP GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP I had to build this computer fast. I had a project for college using SolidWorks and my older computer completely crashed on me. Terrible timing. I wanted something stronger than my other dual core machine, but on a budget for time and money. So items such as the RAM is from my another computer and power supply is one I already had. The hard drive I already had as well, but had to move the porn off of it. I did get my oldest computer running again. The motherboard was fried, and the OS was very corrupted. I replaced the motherboard and restored the hard drive to a previous backup image. Oh yeah, just ordered more hard drive space. I will now have 8 1.5TB Seagates. So my total is now just over 31 TB. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 06-14-09 02:35pm - 5632 days | #89 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
I just bought my first 1.5Tb Seagate ($139.99 at Office Depot...on sale - $10 off) and am very happy with it. It is preformatted with NTSF (most are still FAT 32), is 7200 RPM and comes with automatic backup software if you want to use it for backup. I'm moving my stash currently loaded on a variety of 5400 hard drives ranging from 80Gb to 500Gb to the Seagate and have it almost full already. No idea what the next generation of solid state storage will be able to hold but until they arrive. I see this drive as being the best for function, capacity and price. | |
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| 06-14-09 07:11pm - 5632 days | #90 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
I'm curious how many of these drives are online fulltime. As in, what's your total drive space at bootup? Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 06-14-09 08:04pm - 5632 days | #91 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Having them all connected is an ongoing project. I have have the ability to connect 36 at one time to the same, two through USB and the rest through SATA. However this is on ongoing project to get everything. The computer I use for porn storage, among other things, has a 250 GB drive for the OS. I will be upping that simply to increase speed. Then I have 5 other SATA connection on the motherboard which is where the 1500 GB drive connect and are always live. I have a 16 port SATA control which I am not using because it is extremely large and messy. It works but I prefer not to use it anymore. Currently there are two PCI-E eSATA controllers that have two ports each. These cards are nice because they are very cheap, small, and best of all they support port multipliers. Each port can be use a 5x1 multiplier. Since I have two card this adds 20 more drives. Unfortunately the port multipliers are expensive, $73 a piece. I currently have 2. So these two cards are currently adding 12 drives, but will handle 20. Plus I can add more cards. At this exact moment that machine is carrying 3.25 TB always live. This is because one drive is unplugged because I am adding to the system and moving this around. Most of my hard drives are held externally. I have five 5-drive mounts that simply hold the drive and provide cooling. I am using additional power supplies for power. These drive are connected to the eSATA controllers. I went this route because I use this computer for more than just porn. I really do not need all these extra drive running when ever the computer is running. So I can control these power supplies separately. Everything is hot-swap so all I need to do is flip a switch, wait a few seconds, and they all show up. So to answer your question, my max for that computer is currently 20.4 TB. This is without adding my 16 port card. Hopefully I can get another raffle win soon so I can get two more of the port multipliers. So far a lot of my raffle winning has gone into this project which is nearing completion. My goal is to add one more of those controller cards and a set of multipliers which would make 36 drives total without using USB. Then shuffle everything around and start using spanned volumes. Just a total update: 1x60 GB 1x250 GB 1x120 GB 1x300 GB 2x400 GB 6x320 GB 12x500 GB 7x750 GB 4x1000 GB 7x1500 GB Grand total of 31+ TB "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 06-16-09 09:10am - 5630 days | #92 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
Now I'm really curious how you're doing this. If you run the multipliers and/or controller cards in RAID, you lose real estate. If you run JBOD, you rack up drive letters and, to the best of my knowledge, once you hit drive Z, you're done. I might be next in line with drive space - with my externals running, I'm sitting at drive T for a total of 11.2 TB. And I'm getting a bit nervous because I'm coming up on that dreaded Z. My system is old and the majority of my drives are still IDE which, unfortunately, no one is making anything larger than 500 gigs anymore - and even those are getting scarce. To continue as I have in the past, buying drives as needed, I have two choices. With all my PCI slots filled already, I can either continue with USB externals, which I hate because they're horribly slow, or upgrade my motherboard to something that'll handle a bunch of SATA drives. That also means upgrading my video card, memory, CPU and fan. And I definitely don't have the money to do that anytime soon. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 06-16-09 01:15pm - 5630 days | #93 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Holy shit, that's a lot of drive space! And it just keeps growing (insert bad joke here)! I am sure you have proper cooling so as not to a have a porn-fueled fire hazard, since explaining that to a fireman would be a little embarrassing: "Uh, you see, I was trying to build a library of porn, and, well, I had all the drives running and..." "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 06-16-09 01:29pm - 5630 days | #94 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
RB. Might I recommend NAS (network attached storage) to be a solution to your issue. This would get you around your many of your problems. You could use SATA drives this way and be ab able to expand indefinitely. The trouble is that this can be expensive to buy the NAS equipment. The second option is to make your own file server. Build a cheap computer and network it. I did this for a while and it worked. I have not hit z yet, but have come close with w. The five 1.5TB drive I just bought will likely be a spanned volume, but I will have to see how large of a volume my system will allow me to have. I really do not have experience here, yet. I have a few USB externals and even my old 400 GB IDE drive transfers 30 MB/s on my new machines. Of course my older computer do not do that. So it is not the USB drives themselves slowing you do, it is likely the age of your system. It might be time to bring in a newer machine for all your storage and viewing. Get yourself a few raffle wins and have at it. That is where a good bit of my stuff has come from over the past year. Turboshaft. Each of the 5 drive racks have a 140mm fan blowing right through them, and the drives in my cases are also cooled. I do not allow my drives to get hot to the touch. Of course I do not keep the on all the time and they do not even have to be on at the same time. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 06-16-09 01:36pm - 5630 days | #95 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I am sure you know what you are doing, just be careful having a congratulatory cigar whenever you reach a petabyte of hard drive storage. :) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 06-18-09 09:37pm - 5628 days | #96 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
AAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!! I just lost a hard drive. A full hard drive. A full 1500 GB hard drive! It makes a clicking noise now. Same as it does when it starts up. Correction, it was making a clicking noise, now is spins but is still worthless. DOS SeaTools can see the drive but can not make sense of it. Obviously being a 1.5 TB Seagate it is under warranty so I can get a brand new drive for shipping cost, but the data is GONE! Worst of it is I am not sure what all was on the drive. And even worse was this happened right as I was getting ready to make a large RAID 5 array which would have protected against this. Terrible timing. I really have tried everything, hell it is in the freezer right now! I have tried different computers, switching the controller card, and using SeaTools on it...and nothing! A sad day in my porn world. Then to top it off, I heard on the radio today that the porn shop I always went to on my way home from campus burnt down! Yup, a sad day. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 06-18-09 11:44pm - 5627 days | #97 | |
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shooterbo (0)
Active User Posts: 185 Registered: Apr 25, '07 |
How old was it and how full? Also interested to know if it was one that you occassionally turned off thinking you were saving some of its useable life? | |
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| 06-19-09 11:49am - 5627 days | #98 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
My collection is about 750mb small compared to some of you, but I do have 3 tb worth of drives. I use one as a main drive one 750 as active drive for which I use to view and is the fastest of my drives runs movies only. I have two backups on of this drive and one of my music which is quite exstensive. And then I have a work drive I use for graphics and pics. I learned long ago to make backups, as we speak I am backing up 58 gigs from last nights dl's. There is a duplicate drive of everything I have. Since 2007 | |
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| 06-19-09 09:43pm - 5626 days | #99 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Well, it was mostly full. It has over 1200 GB when I lost it. It was not an old drive, less than 6 months old. It was a secondary drive used in a computer that has on an average of 6 hours per day. Obviously some days it was on all day and others not at all. It always had good cooling on it and never got hot. Cybertoad. The issue with backing everything up is it would be extremely expensive for me. I have some things backed up on DVD but it would simply be overwhelming for me to back up everything. I would like to make a large RAID 5 array, and am working out the details of doing just that to save myself from this sort of issue. I was considering putting everything onto DVD but hard drives are almost the same price as DVDs per GB. The 5 drives I just bought actually where the same price. So if I were to make a one for one back up of everything that would be the way to go anyway. Plus it would not take anywhere near as much time, effort and space to use HDD to back everything up. I have been trying to figure out what method to use for a while now. What I am thinking is smaller site to be backed up on dvd for now and larger, easier sites to download do not get backed up. Since this material is cheaper and easier to redownload it makes sense to prioritize in that way. I guess I will just have to see. If I only had a billion dollars! "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 06-20-09 09:59am - 5626 days | #100 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
If I had a billion dollars I wouldn't buy more storage, I would buy the whole frigging studio. ;-) | |
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