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03-10-12  09:17am - 4670 days #769
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It makes sense that Norman's Gor series would ressemble in some ways Burrough's Carter since John Norman was inspired by Burrough's work. He's not the only author to have taken some or many of Burrough ideas and incorporated them into their own work.

I saw John Carter yesterday and I loved it. I know that some people didn't and I think part of why they didn't may be because I hadn'r read the books so I had very little knowledge before going into the movie. I looked up a quick synopsis of the books prior to writing this so that I could give you an heads up about what you'll see. The movie mixes elements from the first three novels so it's not like they made A Princess of Mars but that's still the novel that inspired the thrust of the story in the movie.

I think that if the movie does well then we could see more adventures of John Carter but I suspect that subsequent movies will move further away from the novels because the first movie stole some of the plot lines from the other novels. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-10-12  09:36am - 4670 days #770
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Has anyone been to see "The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo?" It doesn't appear to be doing that well at the Box Office. My daughter and son-in-law loved it .. did you?


I thought the US version was far superior to the Swedish film. Fincher is a great director, and he's got great actors. The performance that he got out of Rooney Mara as Lizbeth is extraordinary and he allowed the character to be much more multi-faceted than the character was in the Swedish films.

Overall, I thought that, while they did some condensing to make the story fit the length of a film, they did so without changing the outlook of the book, unlike some of the changes made in the Swedish films, particularly the 2nd one, which I disliked quite a bit - as a film and for changing the ideology of the book.

The Fincher film also has a unique and very cool structure - it's bam-bam-bam rushing headlong into the story from the first moment, and then, different from most films, it's much more placid in the last 1/2 hour - and by that point, you like the characters enough that it's fine to spend that extra time with them even if there isn't a lot of action.

I highly recommend it. I suspect that it's a film that will be increasingly valued over time. I'm glad that the studio committed to the sequels, despite the fact that it didn't make a ton of money.

03-10-12  01:25pm - 4670 days #771
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^The good news is that the film seems to have made enough money at the box office to guarantee that you'll at least see a sequel. Since you saw both versiosn then maybe you can answer this one. I read that some people found that Fincher/Rooney's versions of Lisbeth makes her look more weak and needy and daniel Craif character stronger versus the ones in the original movie.

I'll still see the movie once it's on dvd because I never saw the original and may never if I like this one. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-10-12  01:34pm - 4670 days #772
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I forgot to add that I saw John Carter in 3D because it was the only versions playing in the afternoon (fucking theater chain with their greed) but the movie is not worth seeing in 3D. The 3D doesn't add anything to it. Luckily the scenes shot in darker enviroments aren't too bad but this is still another great example of Hollywood stealing our money with useless 3D.

I checked box office earnings and the movie has only made 9 millions so far and although it's only for yesterday's domestic take. I don't hold a lot of hope that it will make enough money to justify a sequel. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-10-12  02:04pm - 4670 days #773
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03-13-12  07:06am - 4667 days #774
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^The good news is that the film seems to have made enough money at the box office to guarantee that you'll at least see a sequel. Since you saw both versiosn then maybe you can answer this one. I read that some people found that Fincher/Rooney's versions of Lisbeth makes her look more weak and needy and daniel Craif character stronger versus the ones in the original movie.

I'll still see the movie once it's on dvd because I never saw the original and may never if I like this one.


I wouldn't agree that the Rooney version of Lisbeth Salander was weak & needy, but her character was definitely more multi-faceted and more vulnerable than in the Swedish film, where she was more stone-faced and one-note. She was more of a real human being in the US version, in my opinion, and the audience was invited to like her more. Craig fit the Blomkvist role well, I thought. It wasn't James Bond playing Blomkvist, or anything like that.

03-13-12  07:09am - 4667 days #775
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I forgot to add that I saw John Carter in 3D because it was the only versions playing in the afternoon (fucking theater chain with their greed) but the movie is not worth seeing in 3D. The 3D doesn't add anything to it. Luckily the scenes shot in darker enviroments aren't too bad but this is still another great example of Hollywood stealing our money with useless 3D.

I checked box office earnings and the movie has only made 9 millions so far and although it's only for yesterday's domestic take. I don't hold a lot of hope that it will make enough money to justify a sequel.


I saw John Carter in 3D this weekend. It was an old-fashioned Space Opera. I liked it more than the reviewers did by far, since I haven't read a favorable review of it, but the acting by the lead male character was wooden in the extreme and the film suffers because of that. He reminded me very much of the male lead in the 80's film "The Perils of Gwendolyn", same monotonous voice, like he had taken his acting lessons at a lumber mill.

03-13-12  12:05pm - 4667 days #776
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^Do you think that part of why he appears so wooden has less to do with him and more because the other actors are so much more expressive. Lyn Collins was amazing in that movie. I really enjoyed the use of CGI characters. They are really well blended into the story and unlike any of Lucas prequel crap. They have distinct personalities. Long live the Brown Coats.

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I just saw Safe House with Denzel Washington. It was a good action movie.

03-19-12  06:05pm - 4661 days #778
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^Do you think that part of why he appears so wooden has less to do with him and more because the other actors are so much more expressive. Lyn Collins was amazing in that movie. I really enjoyed the use of CGI characters. They are really well blended into the story and unlike any of Lucas prequel crap. They have distinct personalities.


I thought it had more to do with him being a terrible actor. Lyn Collins was very good, and very fun to watch. And I agree that the CGI characters were used MUCH better than Lucas used his. Lucas seemed like he was more interested in merchandise licensing than he was having good characters in a film.

The only Star Wars film that I really care much for is The Empire Strikes Back, which I think is very good and has a strong emotional core throughout.

Speaking of actresses that are a joy to watch on-screen, I finally saw The Artist. It's a brilliant film and earned its Best Film and Best Actor awards - I didn't see a better overall film made in 2011 or see a better performance by an actor than Jean Dujardain's in that film - it was exceptionally moving. But what really put it over the top for me was the sheer pleasure of watching B�r�nice Bejo, the lead actress. She was astonishingly magical to watch, had more charisma than any other 10 actresses I can think of, and she did a solo "dance" with a man's jacket that was one of the most beautifully erotic things I've ever seen - and shows why I like tease so much. No nudity at all, not even implied nudity, but it was SOOO sexy!

03-20-12  07:41pm - 4660 days #779
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Just saw The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011) on DVD. This is the remake with Daniel Craig. I enjoyed it thoroughly. I also saw the original Swedish version and liked that one as well. I can't really compare the two versions very well, because my memory is poor. But I thought the remake made the lead characters (Daniel Craig and Rooney Mara) more human, more appealing and approachable.

03-21-12  11:15am - 4659 days #780
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^I will definetely be watching that movie soon. I won't be able to compare it to the original because I never saw it and probably won't unless it winds up on TV. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-21-12  11:23am - 4659 days #781
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I don't know exactly who the people behind John Carter pissed off. I can't help but feel like there's a strong movement to make the movie appear like the biggest bomb in the history of movies. It has ben out for less than a week and already they are writing that it will lose 200 million.

It's true that domestic box office takes are pitiful but the movie has still managed to make 180 millions when you include foreign box office takes. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-21-12  06:08pm - 4659 days #782
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While that's true, the analysis like this:


"Disney said “John Carter” has brought in about $184 million in ticket sales worldwide so far. But ticket sales are split roughly in half with theater owners. The movie’s production budget is estimated to be about $250 million with about $100 million more spent on marketing."

$350 million - $92 million = One freaking big hole that they need to climb out of - with mainly poor reviews - in order to break even. Will that happen? Highly unlikely unless it catches fire as a cult film somewhere down the line.

03-21-12  07:27pm - 4659 days #783
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I don't know exactly who the people behind John Carter pissed off. I can't help but feel like there's a strong movement to make the movie appear like the biggest bomb in the history of movies. It has ben out for less than a week and already they are writing that it will lose 200 million.

It's true that domestic box office takes are pitiful but the movie has still managed to make 180 millions when you include foreign box office takes.


This is what I read today, Pat:

http://business.time.com/2012/03/21/the-...st-box-office-duds-2

03-22-12  07:03am - 4658 days #784
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"Disney said �John Carter� has brought in about $184 million in ticket sales worldwide so far. But ticket sales are split roughly in half with theater owners."

$350 million - $92 million = One freaking big hole that they need to climb out of - with mainly poor reviews - in order to break even. Will that happen? Highly unlikely unless it catches fire as a cult film somewhere down the line.


I agree that it`s going to be next to impossible to climb out of such a huge hole but to say that the movie is going to lose 200 millions when it hasn`t been out for less than a week and is probably still not released in every market yet is a big exageration.

I`d also like to add that I read quite a few negative reviews that used the movies budget in their reason for why it`s a bad movie. When has that become the reason why a movie is good or bad. I didn`t particularly like Cowboys and Aliens and no amount of budget would have made me think otherwise. In return I wouldn`t have given the movie a better review if i had known that they had a reduced budget. I judge the movie based on my enjoyment and not what it cost to be made. Any of the Star Wars prequel are one of the best example. They cost a lot more to make than any of the first 3 movies and yet I`d rather watch any of those comnpared to the huge turd Lucas made. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-22-12  03:15pm - 4658 days #785
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First of all, the release date of the film was March 9, so it will have been out 2 weeks tomorrow.

Secod of all, far from this "loss of $200 million" being some back-stabbing figure put out by some out-to-get-the-film websites, that figure was put out by Disney, the studio that put out the film, after looking at the film's global performance with 9 days data in the world market.

Disney has put out a film or 2 over the past several decades, and I'm sure that they've got their projection methods pretty well honed. They also have a few balls spinning in the air, and taking a write-down of $200 million on one piece of their fiscal pie is probably not such a negative thing to do, since it cuts against their tax bill, etc.

Hell, Terry Gilliam had to fight like mad to get Brazil released because the studio that had the rights to it was going to just junk it and take the entire cost of the film as a tax write-off - and they would have been quite happy to have done so.

03-22-12  06:20pm - 4658 days #786
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^It's true that the movie will have been released 2 weeks tomorrow but that's only in North America. I know that's very important when studios consider a movie a flop but the days when studios considered a hit or fail at the box office based only on North America are over. The rest of the planet still goes to the movies and it's quite common for movies to make huge profits with Foreign box office takes.

It's true that Disney aknowledged that they would lose 200 millions on John Carter but for some reason I just don't believe them. I think, and this is just my theory, that they are using this to their own benefit. The reason why I say that is that a movie today can only be considered a total bomb if DVD, Blu-Ray and TV/cable rights are so low that they don't cover cost of production and we won't know that until the movie gets released later this year. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-24-12  10:57am - 4656 days #787
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Hunger Games serves up huge opening day at $68M


LOS ANGELES (AP) — The feast is on: "The Hunger Games" has taken in $68.25 million domestically in its first day, a record for a non-sequel.

The Friday total for Lionsgate's "The Hunger Games" was the fifth-best opening day ever and puts the movie on track for the best debut weekend ever in March. That record is held by "Alice in Wonderland" with $116.1 million.

The big start should translate into an opening weekend of as much as $140 million domestically, according to Paul Dergarabedian, analyst for box-office tracker Hollywood.com.

First-day revenues for "The Hunger Games" were well behind the record $91.1 million for last summer's "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2." But "The Hunger Games" came within a few million dollars of each of the last three "Twilight" movies, whose opening days ranged from $68.5 million to $72.7 million.

"The Hunger Games" stars Jennifer Lawrence as a teen forced to compete in a televised death match against other youths in a future North American society where a privileged capital city oppresses the people of 12 outlying worker districts. The film is based on the first book in a best-selling trilogy by author Suzanne Collins.

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I heard an interesting piece on NPR the other day, comparing "Hunger Games" with the Japanese film "Battle Royale". I had been turned onto "Battle Royale" a few years ago in an interview with Quentin Tarantino - it's a really powerful film made by a director who, as a teenager, worked in a factory during WW II where part of his job was going around with a wheelbarrow after bombing raids to collect body parts.

The commentator was worrying that, by toning down the violence, "Hunger Games" might wind up glamorizing it while "Battle Royale"s intense violence was anything but.

Suzanne Collins claims to not have been aware of "Battle Royale" when she did her book, but there are so many similar themes and plot points that she ought to just admit that she had seen it and took off from those themes and plot points with her own vision, which is a completely legitimate thing to do. I plan on seeing "Hunger Games" tomorrow. I'm quite looking forward to it.

03-24-12  06:04pm - 4656 days #789
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Suzanne Collins claims to not have been aware of "Battle Royale" when she did her book, but there are so many similar themes and plot points that she ought to just admit that she had seen it and took off from those themes and plot points with her own vision, which is a completely legitimate thing to do.


Maybe Suzanne Collins fears being sued for copyright infringement.

I've never really understand the way that copyright infringement works in courts.

I remember that James Cameron's The Terminator was sued by Harlan Ellison. And that Orion Pictures paid Ellison money and added a credit acknowledging Ellison at the end of the movie.

I also remember some awards show on TV, where George Lucas and Steven Spielberg were honoring Akira Kurosawa and his influence on them. But then they added that their own movies were their own personal vision. Which seemed a little strange, and made me think they were afraid of being sued for copyright infringement. Akira Kurosawa movies were remade in Europe and the United States without anyone ever paying any royalties to Akira Kurosawa, as far as I know.

The Magnificent Seven was based on a Akira Kurosawa film.

Last Man Standing was based on an Akira Kurosawa film, and there was a Sergio Leone film staring Clint Eastwood in the Man with no Name Trilogy based on the same Akira Kurosawa film.

03-24-12  06:44pm - 4656 days #790
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The commentator was worrying that, by toning down the violence, "Hunger Games" might wind up glamorizing it while "Battle Royale"s intense violence was anything but.


I don't know why he should worry because the slaughter of underage kids whether it be ultra violent or not is still not something that could be called glamorous. The simple fact is that Hunger Games could never have been made if the studio had chosen to go the ultra violent route. The studio would know that showing too much violence would get it an R rating or worse the dreaded X. An R pretty much guarantees crappy box office profits but an X is paramount to box office death. This would especially be true with what a movie that is essentially targeteing teens.

You get an X rating for your movie and you might as well send it straight to video. You'll lose less money that way. Long live the Brown Coats.

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The Magnificent Seven was based on a Akira Kurosawa film.

Last Man Standing was based on an Akira Kurosawa film, and there was a Sergio Leone film staring Clint Eastwood in the Man with no Name Trilogy based on the same Akira Kurosawa film.


Might be a good place to mention a bit of trivia that was brought up in post #614 of this same thread ...

Fist Full of Dollars (Clint Eastwood)
Omega Doom (Rutger Hauer)
The Warrior and the Sorceress (David Carradine)
Last Man Standing (Bruce Willis)

Were are all adaptations of Akira Kurosawa's Japanese classic movie, Yojimbo ... which as rumor has it, was itself inspired by a 1929 detective story, Red Harvest.

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03-25-12  08:03am - 4655 days #792
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^I think you are correct about Kurosawa influencing many movies. Long live the Brown Coats.

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I plan on seeing "Hunger Games" tomorrow. I'm quite looking forward to it.


If you see the movie, let us know how you liked it.
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'Hunger Games' battles to $155M opening weekend


Associated PressBy DAVID GERMAIN | Associated Press – 1 hr 2 mins ago


LOS ANGELES (AP) — "The Hunger Games" has filled fan appetites with a $155 million opening weekend that puts it near the top of the domestic record book.

The huge haul marks the third-best debut ever in terms of revenue, behind the $169.2 million opening for last year's "Harry Potter" finale and the $158.4 million opening of 2008's "The Dark Knight."

"Harry Potter" and "Batman" were well-established franchises. "The Hunger Games" set a revenue record for a non-sequel.

It also was by far the biggest start for a film opening outside the busy summer and holiday seasons. According to Sunday studio estimates, "The Hunger Games" came in nearly $40 million ahead of the previous March record-holder, 2010's "Alice in Wonderland" at $116.1 million.

"The Hunger Games" slid into the No. 3 spot on the domestic revenue chart ahead of "Spider-Man 3," which opened with $151.1 million in 2007. Factoring in today's higher tickets prices, "The Hunger Games" sold fewer tickets over opening weekend than "Spider-Man 3," though.

With a broader fan base than the "Twilight" franchise, "The Hunger Games" pulled in bigger crowds than the top-grossing installment of that series. "The Twilight Saga: New Moon" leads that franchise with a $142.8 million opening weekend in 2009.

Women and girls have made up as much as 80 percent of the audience for the "Twilight" flicks. Though it features a female lead, "The Hunger Games" drew more balanced crowds, with girls and women accounting for 61 percent of audiences, according to distributor Lionsgate.

Despite its teen fan base, "The Hunger Games" also did well among older moviegoers. Fans 25 and older made up 56 percent of the crowds.

"The Hunger Games" stars Jennifer Lawrence as a teen who is one of 24 youths forced to compete in a televised death match in a post-apocalyptic North American society.

The film is based on the first novel in the best-selling trilogy by Suzanne Collins. Lionsgate plans to release part two, "Catching Fire," in November 2013.

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Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged was released last April 15th after more than 50 years of negotiations with the author, and then her estate.

The release was Part one of three. Parts 2 and 3 were due to be released on the next two April 15s (there seems to be some significance to that date) but they're running a bit late, so early fall is when Part 2 is expected.

Atlas Shrugged is by far, the best book I've ever read and I don't think I have never seen a motion picture that followed the source book as closely.

If you haven't seen it, it's worth a look. Or you can wait another year and see them all at once. unless life also gives you water and sugar, your lemonade is gonna suck.

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Did they even make the later parts of Atlas Shrugged? I heard that the first part did so terribly, financially, that even with the Tea Party being whipped up to go see it, that there was doubt as to whether the later parts would be finished. I haven't seen the first part, might watch it on cable if it shows up some day. The most un-intentionally hilarious movie I ever saw as The Fountainhead - I was just howling laughing when I saw it.

I saw Hunger Games yesterday - "Eh" is mainly how I would sum up my feelings about it. The lead actress playing Katniss is the best thing about it - for a young actress to make her dead-eye determination believable was a real feat.

In regard to the NPR's commentator's concern about Hunger Games glamorizing violence by toning it down, I think Hunger Games glamorized the violence by having a definite heroine as the focal point - so you really didn't mind that the other kids were dying so that she could live, unlike Battle Royale where there was no individual focal point - but no American movie aiming for mass appeal would dare do anything as bold as having no hero/heroine to root for.

One thing is for sure - movie theater operator's having got to be head-over-heels loving the movie. I went to a theater that is no longer the top multiplex pick in the area. They were showing the film on 3 screens and selling out or filling every screening - and it seemed to be doing even better with a female hero than a male one, since boys could get into the action while girls HAD to come see a girl get to be an action star.

I'll probably wait for the follow-ups to hit cable to see them.

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I saw Hunger Games yesterday - "Eh" is mainly how I would sum up my feelings about it....

I'll probably wait for the follow-ups to hit cable to see them.


Your reaction just points up how individual tastes can vary.

I don't always agree with your movie opinions, but I think our tastes in movies are more similar than mine is with the average teenagers, who seem to be the target audience for this film. But this film appeals to teens, and people in their twenties.

But the twilight series fan base is mainly females. I saw a couple of those movies on DVD, and could hardly believe how slow and boring they were.

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Well somehow I think we're blaming the movies for making the Hunger Games what it is, but it was a best selling book before it became the movie. And, it appealed to the audience of the books. After seeing it today I think I will have to get the books and see if it makes me feel any differently. I did enjoy the movie, about as much as I did John Carter - another sci-fi movie tilted toward kids but written in the early part of the 20th Century. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

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I don't know why he should worry because the slaughter of underage kids whether it be ultra violent or not is still not something that could be called glamorous. The simple fact is that Hunger Games could never have been made if the studio had chosen to go the ultra violent route. The studio would know that showing too much violence would get it an R rating or worse the dreaded X. An R pretty much guarantees crappy box office profits but an X is paramount to box office death. This would especially be true with what a movie that is essentially targeteing teens.

You get an X rating for your movie and you might as well send it straight to video. You'll lose less money that way.


You get an X rating and you might want to double check what year it is.

NC-17 replaced X in 1990, though it's still basically a box office death sentence, minus small independent films that don't need a certain rating to earn back their minimal budgets.

With the rise of disc and aftermarket sales and rentals the need for NC-17 sounds pointless. Might as well say "unrated" and let audiences know the filmmakers didn't have to get the MPAA's meaningless moral approval. I generally prefer director's cuts myself as I figure the farther you get away from the creative forces behind a film (ratings boards, "family-friendly" review sites, government censors) the less weight their judgement really carries.

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^Thanks for the correction. I guess I'm still living in the past. I'm not sure how the rating system works when the movie gets released on dvd or Blu-Ray because I've always been old enough to buy whichever movie I wanted and i never look at what rating is on the packaging.

I know that movies that aren't rated tend to have a hard time getting shown in many theaters simply because the theater is affraid of the bad publicity they might get if a movie meant for an older audience is seen by a younger one. Another reason is that instead of bad publicity they could get sued by the parenst of those kids. Parents tend to look at the rating before allowing their child to see the movie so an unrated movie means that they really don't know if it's appropriate or not. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-28-12  07:41pm - 4652 days #800
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There have been very few movies rated NC-17 that have gotten any kind of distribution - and I'm not aware of any in the last decade that were rated NC-17 and did any kind of business in theaters. Mainly film-makers want PG-13 ratings if they are doing things that are at all risque because they lose so much of the audience as soon as a film is rated R.

One of the most outrageous current examples of how out-dated and flat-out stupid the ratings are is that there is a new documentary about bullying in junior high and high school called "Bully" was given an R rating - they insisted that the language had to be censored to give the film a PG-13 rating - and all the objectionable language was being said by young kids - and this isn't a "Kids" style exploitation film. Apparently the film-maker elected to release it without any rating and different theater groups are handling it differently. This article talks about it:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2...y-regal-cinemas.html

03-29-12  04:11am - 4651 days #801
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Originally Posted by pat362:


^Thanks for the correction. I guess I'm still living in the past. I'm not sure how the rating system works when the movie gets released on dvd or Blu-Ray because I've always been old enough to buy whichever movie I wanted and i never look at what rating is on the packaging.

I know that movies that aren't rated tend to have a hard time getting shown in many theaters simply because the theater is affraid of the bad publicity they might get if a movie meant for an older audience is seen by a younger one. Another reason is that instead of bad publicity they could get sued by the parenst of those kids. Parents tend to look at the rating before allowing their child to see the movie so an unrated movie means that they really don't know if it's appropriate or not.


I haven't looked at a rating in a while either, except to wonder why they went with a lower given the subject material (answer: make more money with a younger audience, see "The Hunger Games," rated PG-13 while telling a story that's basically about kids murdering each other for a TV show).

I doubt parents would take their kids to see any unrated film anyway, but I also doubt they would sue either. Though last year a woman actually sued over a "misleading" trailer to the film Drive--and why not? What else are the courts there for?--people tend to get out the pitchforks and torches when a film rustles their fragile sensibilities.

Religion generally seems to be the most volatile topic a film can address, except apparently when it goes for the over-the-top approach, like Mel Gibson did with his anti-Semitic snuff feature "The Passion of the Christ." But the less grisly, though generally more sexual, religious films earn a healthy platter of death threats, protests, and outright bans on their own.

I guess some people should just avoid seeing movies altogether--they anger up the blood. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

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"I doubt parents would take their kids to see any unrated film anyway" brings up an interesting situation where the film "Bully" was being rated R for pervasive language, though the film was made for the victims of bullying. To resolve this conundrum, the film gods decided to just let the film release with No Rating.

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Over 18 million young people in the United States will be bullied this year. Here, we follow a disquieting year in the life of several students joining this staggering statistic. As teachers and parents grapple with America's bullying crisis, the students do what they can to survive a school day.

If you had a child who was bullied would you take you child to such a film?

http://youtu.be/W1g9RV9OKhg If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

03-29-12  11:42am - 4651 days #803
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


I doubt parents would take their kids to see any unrated film anyway, but I also doubt they would sue either.


I agree that most parents wouldn't take their kids to an unranted movie but it wouldn't surprise me to hear that parents are suing the theater chain for not advising them that the movie might not be appropriate for young children.
Le me rephrase that last one and say US parents wouldn't have a problem in suing. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-29-12  07:08pm - 4651 days #804
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As teachers and parents grapple with America's bullying crisis, the students do what they can to survive a school day.


"America's bullying crisis"?

Is the situation really that dire? Sorry, but this kind of knee-jerk persecution complex over what is, sadly but truly, a big part of growing up in a world full of assholes who may not get along with one another. It's also political correctness that taken to its extreme gets people in serious legal trouble, like the recent conviction of Dharun Ravi for spying on his roommate.

If anything this documentary seems to point to problems that are much greater than just bullying alone, but larger social and political issues. One of the kids in the film is a girl who was mocked by teachers and students after coming out. Is that just bullying or the symptom of a society where a large proportion of people still defend and masquerade their homophobia as a traditional "value?"

As usual, sounds like the adults need more help than the kids. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

03-29-12  09:08pm - 4651 days #805
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


"America's bullying crisis"?

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If anything this documentary seems to point to problems that are much greater than just bullying alone, but larger social and political issues. One of the kids in the film is a girl who was mocked by teachers and students after coming out. Is that just bullying or the symptom of a society where a large proportion of people still defend and masquerade their homophobia as a traditional "value?"

As usual, sounds like the adults need more help than the kids.


That last point is very much being made in the film - the clip I heard spot-lighted when I heard an interview with the film-maker was one where a school counselor or principal, I forget which, was berating a victim of bullying for not whole-heartedly embracing the apology by the bully, not being willing to shake their hand or declare that bygones are bygones. The kid, reasonably enough, kept on saying, "I don't want to have anything to do with him. I don't want to touch him! I don't want him to touch me!" and the adult was refusing to listen to anything the kid was saying. Adults frequently ARE the problem and they frequently force bullied kids into situations that the bullied kids know beforehand are dangerous for them, then declare it to be the kids' fault for their poor attitude. Then it's some kind of fucking mystery when kids that don't see any other way out take their life at the age of 13.

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An 18 rating in the UK would increase ticket sales. We seem to take the 18 rating to mean it's a proper movie, for grownups, not aimed at children.

I'm not totally certain but I don't think unrated movies can be shown in licenced cinemas in the UK. I could be wrong on that one, but I think it's a stipulation of getting a licence. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity.

04-01-12  12:12pm - 4648 days #807
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I finally saw the Hunger games and I really enjoyed it. I can't comment on the movie vs the book because I haven't read the book. The pacing was pretty good because I never felt like it was dragging and that's impressive when you consider that the movie is almost 2:30 hours. The acting was very good and the effects excellent. My only annoyance is that they shot too many of the scenes with an handycam so you get a lot of jerky motions throughout the film. Long live the Brown Coats.

04-01-12  01:19pm - 4648 days #808
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Pat, I believe I read somewhere that the hand held feel is a quirk of the director and something that is a hallmark of his films. If I'm mistaken here someone let me know because I did not go back and try to verify that, just what I remember.

And you all know what that's like for me. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.

If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat!

04-01-12  06:00pm - 4648 days #809
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^I don't think so because the director has only shot 3 movies. I haven't seen any of them but I read a great review of the movie and the guys were mostly blaiming Paul Greengrass who did the Bourne movies with matt damon and Christopher Nolan of the batman movies with Christian Bale.

I tend to agree with them that Gary copied someone else's style because it worked for them but I found it annoying in those movies and that will never change. In Gary Ross defense. This is only is third directing gig in 14 years.

This movie gets a major positive note in regard to 3D. There isn't any and that is such an amazing thing to say when you consider that every movie released in the last year has had a 3D version. Long live the Brown Coats.

04-11-12  11:54pm - 4637 days #810
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"every movie released in the last year has had a 3D version."

That's a pretty major exaggeration. I would bet that if you actually looked at how many films were made in the past 12 months, the percentage of those films with 3d versions would be 2-5% or so. It's a fad and another way for studios to try to herd audiences into theaters.

The most unique 3D film I saw was Wim Wender's "Pina", about the German dance company director/choreographer Pina Bausch. It was very cool to see 3D technology being used for reasons other than "schtick", and I've been fascinated by Pina Bausch since I first heard of her work when there was a major international arts festival in LA to coincide with the 1984 Olympics. Bausch's company did a few dates, if I remember correctly, and the LA Times arts critic was head-over-heels in love with what they were doing and wrote about it extensively - so even though I was broke at that time and didn't get a chance to see her work in person, the writing about it made it stick with me so much that when I saw the film, I felt that I knew a bit about it. I absolutely love German art from that period - films by Wenders, Herzog, & Fassbinder especially - because the subject matter was very basic and very deep - What does it mean to be human? Because if people could do what Germans did in the Nazi era, then they were very curious and dangerous creatures. Being raised Jewish and with the understanding that the holocaust was the worst thing that human beings had ever done, I definitely was into seeing that subject explored - and post-war German and Japanese film-makers and dance artists did so in the most powerful ways that I've seen anybody do.

Anyway, if you get a chance to see "Pina" in 3D, it's well worth seeing, quite funny in many parts, very disturbing in others. RIP Pina Bausch, who passed away during the making of the film.

04-12-12  10:20am - 4637 days #811
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^I did exagerate the 3D statement because it just feels like every movie is now offered in 3D and really awfull 3D.

I haven't seen any mention of that Pina movie in Quebec so it's quite possible that it will never get a release date. Long live the Brown Coats.

04-13-12  10:32am - 4636 days #812
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Do we really need more tattoos? How about fake ones on movie stars, to encourage teens to get the real ones?

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Emma Watson Flashes "Tramp Stamp" Tattoo in Short-Shorts, High Heels, Bra


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Emma Watson Flashes "Tramp Stamp" Tattoo in Short-Shorts, High Heels, Bra

For her role in the upcoming flick The Bling Ring, Emma Watson has gone through a dramatic transformation. First came the long, brown wig and on Thursday, she showed off some major faux ink!

Clad in Daisy Dukes, a bra top, a leather jacket and high heels, the Harry Potter starlet, who turns 22 Sunday, flashed a large temporary tattoo across her tailbone -- body art that is most commonly referred to as a "tramp stamp."



Directed by Sofia Coppola and costarring Leslie Mann, American Horror Story star Taissa Farmiga and featuring a cameo by Gavin Rossdale, The Bling Ring is inspired by the real-life group of tech-savvy Hollywood-area teens who burglarized the homes of Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, Orlando Bloom, Rachel Bilson and Audrina Patridge between 2008 and 2009.



Watson isn't the only star to have rocked some out-of-character faux ink for a movie recently.

On April 2, Jessica Alba hit up a Beverly Hills park with her two girls, Honor, 3, and Haven, 7 months, while rocking large tattoos on her arm and tailbone.



"A local tattoo artist in Atlanta did it on her," a source told Us Weekly about the actress' faux body art for her role in A.C.O.D. "Jessica thinks it's pretty tough."

04-18-12  10:18am - 4631 days #813
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The Avengers, the new Marvel Comics superheroes film, opens May 4, 2012.

Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Thor, Captain America, Hawkeye and Black Widow answer the call to action when Nick Fury, director of the international peacekeeping agency known as S.H.I.E.L.D., assembles The Avengers team.

With so many superheroes in one movie, it seems much harder to make a good movie instead of focusing on one or two superheroes.

But I like Joss Whedon, the director. So the movie might be good, after all.

04-18-12  10:33am - 4631 days #814
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Watched Horrible Bosses on HBO Sun night. Watching Jennifer Aniston talking real dirty, eg. "tell me you want to slap my face with your cock" and many others was the stuff wet dreams are made of.

Definitely recommended.

04-18-12  11:21am - 4631 days #815
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I'm eager to see the new Avenger movie because I love the stuff Whedon does but I don't think we are going to get a major storyline simply because there are just too many characters in it. Aside from the ones lk2fireone as mentionned. You also have the secondary characters like Agent Coulson, Maria Hill, Erik Selvig and Pepper Potts.
I know Loki is the main bad guy we keep seeing in all the previews but I suspect that there must be someone else if not then Loki must be a super powerfull bad guy to be able to defeat his brother Thor and all the other Avengers. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-01-12  09:32pm - 4617 days #817
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Sexy Baby looks like an intereseting documentary, and porn related at that. Seems pretty interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeD_RztXeko

The clip of the two girls looking at vagina plastic surgeries was pretty hilarious/horifying...

Also, new Wes Anderson movie coming out soon, although I'm probably the only one that is all that excited about that. It does appear to be the most Wes Andersony Wes Anderson movie yet, which I guess some would see as a con, but it is a pro for me! Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars.
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05-02-12  01:17am - 4617 days #818
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I know Loki is the main bad guy we keep seeing in all the previews but I suspect that there must be someone else if not then Loki must be a super powerfull bad guy to be able to defeat his brother Thor and all the other Avengers.


You must be new to comic book movies, pat. No matter how many bad guys or how powerful they are, the hero always comes out on top. That is the unwritten code of the comic book hero.

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05-02-12  01:24am - 4617 days #819
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Not only is there a new Avengers movie this coming Friday, but the next Friday, Dark Shadows with Johnny Depp opens.

Anyone seeing either movie, how about posting your response/review on this thread?

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