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| 01-27-14 07:40pm - 3981 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User  Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
Hard drive quality comparison I appreciated this article, so I thought I'd share it here: http://arstechnica.com/information-techn...all-disks-are-equal/ Here we have a rare, head-to-head comparison of consumer drives operated under server conditions. Apparently I got what I paid for with my three 4 TB and one 2 Tb Seagate drives. Actually, I suspected as much when they cut their warranty from 5 years to 1 year. Luckily I have everything backed up, and I did save a lot of money on the Seagates. In the future, I might switch to Western Digital for my primaries and just use Seagate for periodic backups. In contrast, Western Digital also cut their warranty to 1 year, but their quality seems not to have declined. They are pricier though. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 01-28-14 08:01am - 3981 days | #2 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Very Good - thank you. Still, the end results leaves the issue muddled. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! Edited on Jan 28, 2014, 08:10am | |
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| 01-31-14 03:03pm - 3978 days | #3 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
Right on cue, my #2 Seagate 4Tb drive is starting to fail. Seems to be a problem with the USB interface not the drive itself. I'll pop it out of it's case soon and see how it does in my dock, once I've finished updating my backup copy. Here's what I take away from this article - Seagate is cheaper but lower in quality. It is probably more economical to buy Seagate regardless, as long as you dutifully back up everything. If you don't back up, or if you have a primary drive under heavy use, consider investing in Western Digital. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 01-31-14 04:56pm - 3978 days | #4 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I don't think of Western Digital as being that much more expensive than Seagate, especially if you shop around and take advantage of sales. But either way you're buying a consumer drive, not a Rocstor or G-Technology drive, which have better reputations and correspondingly higher prices. But the price per GB on hard disk drives is still a crazy good deal today compared to what it was only a few years ago. Until solid state drives become as economically competitive (and we'll still need them for all the things that cloud storage can't replace) the risk of a hard drive failure can be mitigated with regular backups and vigilance. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 02-01-14 12:08am - 3977 days | #5 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Interesting article, but unless you buy a WD/Seagate branded external, how do you know who made the actual drive inside it? I have often tried to find this information, as I prefer Hitachi/WD over Seagate based on past experience, but it seems they never list it anywhere (I would assume probably because these companies use whichever they want at that particular moment, Rocstor for example lists all three drive manufacturers as strategic partners). Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 02-02-14 09:39am - 3976 days | #6 | |
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otoh (0)
Active User Posts: 159 Registered: Sep 17, '10 Location: UK |
Good question! You don't... WD, Seagate and Hitachi are the only companies actually making them now, so as you say, if you buy another branded drive, you don't know what's inside - likely whatever they can buy cheapest at the time. The other route is to buy a hard drive enclosure - an empty box with the USB interface, etc - and buy whatever internal drive you want. Just plug it in. | |
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| 02-03-14 02:10pm - 3975 days | #7 | |
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Marcus (0)
Active User Posts: 52 Registered: Dec 31, '11 Location: London |
I bought a WD Mybook World Edition and it was honestly one of the worst purchases I have ever made. It was pretty much problem after problem, day after day, both with the hardware and with the Mionet software. 50% of the time Mionet didn't load until I restart. If it does work, the drive is 'offline' so have to reboot drive. Sometimes have to reboot a couple of times just for Mionet to pick up the drive. Often when I reboot it then won't mount. If Mionet goes down for maintenance, you can't access your own drive. The drive also often overheated, made a clicking noise and needed rebooting, and then after a few years it just died all together. The thing that amazed me was just how many problems there were - I lost count of how many different error messages and dodgy things the drive did. I'll never buy WD again. | |
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| 02-03-14 07:05pm - 3975 days | #8 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
You can always open up the case, and immediately void the warranty. Though to be fair manufacturers have become so picky it seems that just taking the hard drive out of its original packaging voids the warranty.  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 02-04-14 12:05am - 3974 days | #9 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
I have a WD MyBook Passport and it operates fine, although it didn't require a software install to operate which I honestly prefer, is there a way to operate your drive without the software? You could always pull out the drive and get a new enclosure for it. Its funny how these things taint one's experiences of tech companies, I will never by Seagate again due to one bad experience like 8 years ago, probably should give them another shot, but I guess I hold that grudge. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 02-04-14 12:08am - 3974 days | #10 | ||
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
Best I can tell from some Internet searching, Toshiba is still in the hard drive game, although not as a major player. It wouldn't surprise me that they would give a low bid to an external manufacturer just to stay afloat in the industry.
I've returned so many drives over the years that I can't remember which company it was, but I was in the process of returning a drive under warranty when I read that even marking one with a magic marker would void the warranty. Aside from the fact that I thought that that was over the top ridiculous, they actually had me wondering if they'd go so far as to do some forensic tests to see if a drive had ever been marked. I wondered because all of my offline bare drives are marked with a letter so I can tell which one is which. Turns out some alcohol and a paper towel removed enough of my "maliciousness" to pass their scrutiny. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | ||
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| 02-04-14 12:16am - 3974 days | #11 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Toshiba is still in the business, Hitachi got rolled into WD and Toshiba as I understand it, for some reason WD still uses the HGST label that Hitachi used on 2.5" drives (my laptop has one), but it is a WD company (I assume perhaps made at a different plant). Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 02-04-14 08:30am - 3974 days | #12 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
You can just reformat the drive the first time you power it up and plug it in, in fact this should always be done. I've lost count of the number of hard drive reviews that have mentioned the sheer shittiness of the preloaded bloatware manufacturers infect their products with--something that could have been avoided with the extra few minutes that the quick formatting process takes. You can also partition the drive if you want or give it a different file system (NTFS vs. FAT32, for example). "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 02-04-14 09:57am - 3974 days | #13 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
Just a bit of history I found interesting. (Yes, pretty bored these days) Defunct Hard Drive Manufacturers Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 02-04-14 01:26pm - 3974 days | #14 | |
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otoh (0)
Active User Posts: 159 Registered: Sep 17, '10 Location: UK |
You beat me to it, I often refer to that page  As you say, Toshiba is still making them also - but only 2.5"... although now they have 3.5" but branded Hitachi... hard to keep up! | |
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| 02-04-14 01:53pm - 3974 days | #15 | |
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Marcus (0)
Active User Posts: 52 Registered: Dec 31, '11 Location: London |
If it was one recurring problem I would probably be more willing to try WD, but it was just problem after problem. I could access files without Mionet, but had no write access. The hard drive is a brick now so I took the HDD out of the enclosure but don't have the cables etc to plug it into my computer to see if it works. | |
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| 02-04-14 03:09pm - 3974 days | #16 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
Issues like this are why I think most of this proprietary backup software is actually bad for archiving data. It's OK if you want to restore your primary drive after a hardware failure and you don't have the inclination to do manual backups regularly. But imagine putting that drive on the shelf, letting 10+ years go by, and then trying to read it. The actual backup files will often consist of some unintelligible, obscure, proprietary format from a company that is long gone. That's why backing up manually still has its advantages - hopefully we can still read JPEG's and mp4's in the future. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 02-04-14 04:10pm - 3974 days | #17 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
LPee23, I don't think different file formats will go away anytime soon, at least not in terms of readability, and maybe not even in "writeability" due to older versions of software sticking around forever on the Internet. And if anything I'm sure updating things won't be totally impossible if enough pervs deem it necessary.  The only backup software I ever use is Apple's Time Machine, which is part of their OS, though you don't have to use it, and is really just to backup the main internal hard drive. For manual backups I only copy important folders, and in the case of porn the stuff I really don't want to lose. Go through your collection and there is plenty you could live without and that isn't exactly rare either. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 02-05-14 12:38pm - 3973 days | #18 | |
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jook (0)
Active User  Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
I've come to the very unscientific conclusion that all the drives from the major players are about the same. All drives go the way of computer heaven one day and I don't know that any one particular brand is more reliable than another. There are premium drives available from your not so everyday players that pros use that are more reliable, but you'll pay the price. I think if you ask 10 people which drive they like the best you'll get almost as many answers. Personally, I like WD because of the customer service and no hassle warranty. Some of their drives are warrantied for 5 years. Over the years, I've had 2 WD drives go on me and they were replaced at no charge, one after almost 2 years. To digress a bit, I found myself running out of space. It was kind of shocking since I have a 2TB internal drive and 3 external drives sizes 2TB, 2TB and 1.5TB. 7.5TB was not enough! Well, to be fair, I back up everything twice, paranoid sucker that I am. Thanks to this site, my video collection grew astronomically. I have 1.7TB in videos and it's growing. I had no room to back the videos up even once. So, I needed a solution. I didn't want to add a 4th external drive; that just seemed too over the top. Here's what I recently did and I couldn't be happier. I bought a docking bay station that holds 4 drives of up to 4TB each. I am selling my 1.5TB drive and the docking bay station took its place. Only 1 USB port for the docking station. It comes in USB 2.0 or USB 3.0. I initially bought 2 WD 3TB drives for $130 each. Problem solved for the moment and I have plenty of room for expansion. I could probably sell one of my 2TB external drives but I recently bought it and these things sell for a fraction of the price used. Edited on Feb 05, 2014, 01:27pm | |
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| 02-05-14 02:08pm - 3973 days | #19 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
One of the best investments I ever made for working with bare drives. USB Hard Drive Adapter Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 08-25-15 03:58pm - 3407 days | #20 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
Anyone have any experience with multiple hard drive enclosures? Any models to recommend or avoid? Up until now, it seemed more trouble than it could be worth. Now with four 4Tb drives on a USB splitter and a 5Tb drive on its own USB port, I think I am getting to the point where an enclosure makes sense. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 08-27-15 01:08pm - 3405 days | #21 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
I see that Samsung is about to release a 16 tb flash based hard drive (similar to a solid state drive) which, if it's not outrageously priced, could end a lot of peoples worries over storage and linking drives together. | |
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| 12-14-16 09:38am - 2930 days | #22 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
I learned today that overheating is more than a theoretical concern with desktop external drives. I have a 2TB Seagate Barracuda that I used heavily for a while before moving it to triplicate backup duty. Today I pulled it off the shelf to update it and break it out of its desktop case to move it to an enclosure. The drive spun up but it was not recognized by the OS. When I looked closely at the logic board on the underside, this is what I saw:  The black discoloration on the conductors is heat damage. You can see that it is worst near the metal screws that connect to the often hot metal case. So I used Hard Disk Sentinel to check the S.M.A.R.T. data, and found that it had reached a maximum operating temperature of 61 C in the desktop case. As a general rule, running drives at over 50C can reduce their life expectancy and over 60C can cook them. As I write this now, I see another drive in a desktop case hitting 50C as I format it. My recommendation for all of you who want to avoid HDD failure is to check your hard drives' health from time to time. I am using Hard Disk Sentinel, which can even send emails, network alerts, or shut down your system as soon as a drive begins to fail, but there are many options out there. If you have an external HDD in a desktop case that sees heavy use, definitely consider breaking it out to an enclosure if it is running too hot. Most drives are going to be fine, but why risk it? Edit: That drive that hit 50C during a format was stacked on another drive. The drive that cooked could very well have been in the middle of a triple stack of drives at some point. Drives alone seem to stay under 50C. So don't stack your desktop external HDDs! Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. Edited on Dec 14, 2016, 01:52pm | |
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