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04-11-10  08:01pm - 5369 days #19
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I know trust votes are set up to encourage better reviews. However, how about something like that for webmasters? I think a positive vote tells everyone something and a negative one shows disapproval. Yes I am thinking of recent events.

04-11-10  07:48pm - 5369 days #32
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Squirrel I have you beat by nine years. I would like to hear more from graymane also. I would hope he has an interesting perspective. A lot has changed in my time, so I can just imagine what he would have to say.

04-11-10  07:44pm - 5369 days #18
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Welcome back to the forum. It has been awhile. I'll ask Ken to send you some shoes. Does he know your size?
Getting back to the original topic, do you have any ideas about women and their attitudes about porn? Is it hopeless to think we may ever get any women to post on a regular basis? Edited on Apr 11, 2010, 07:54pm

04-11-10  04:25pm - 5369 days #9
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Capn,
More attentive moderation as you call it, may possibly have fanned the flames even more.

04-11-10  03:13pm - 5369 days #7
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You have a good point. I am concerned about the consequences of doing nothing though.

04-11-10  02:12pm - 5369 days #4
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RB, I am reacting to your mentioning of rules. The problem as I see it is that Khan can't make tough rules that are explicit about exactly what is unacceptable. We are in a gray area here regarding exactly what is inappropriate.

Khan's other problem here is that if he cracks down on offenders, we can expect to hear from other members of the same website. This time it was three members, what would we do if it were three dozen or even a hundred?

I don't see how Khan can do much here, as this is a site about opinions. Also, we can't and should not forbid or even discourage newbies from raving about a site they genuinely like.

Unless someone has a better idea, we have to let anyone and everyone express opinions, even if we suspect they are shills or for some other reason will never be sincere members of PU. How they handle our questions, I hope asked tactfully, will tell all of us how to react to them. Just because Khan and company have a hard time making rules doesn't mean we have to simply stand by and accept behavior that is against what we want the site to be. I liked WG's post about the unwritten rules.

Another point I feel strongly about is that we should give positive trust ratings if their reviews deserve it. Maybe some will stay and review other sites. I for one had hopes that larss might become a real PUer as he is a major contributor to freeones. We have to avoid coming across as being a closed club that others cannot join, even if they join to review and promote only one site. Lets try to convert them, which I know is not possible very often. It certainly was not possible in the recent disaster. Edited on Apr 11, 2010, 02:17pm

04-11-10  12:23pm - 5370 days #57
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Hi Pat, Congrats on reaching the posting milestone. I did not want to use her post to say so.

04-11-10  12:20pm - 5370 days #13
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RB, no complaints regarding you, so sorry for any confusion I may have caused. What I was referring to was the latest debacle we had here with MH and her followers. She insulted me personally twice and waht I meant to say was that the effort to answer her ridiculous insulting behavior was a group effort. PS I love fish, save me some.

04-11-10  11:02am - 5370 days Original Post - #1
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It is obvious that webmasters can and do come here with an agenda. Further, that is not really wrong. I think we all agree that we have to keep their input at a level that doesn't damage the integrity of PU. That being said, I see nothing wrong with responding to them or their members if they cross the line of blatant biased commercialism and/or civility. However, I have seen posts recently about preferring not to respond. If we don't, they control this site. I think we cannot let another similar situation get out of hand as this one did. If we don't support the site as well as each other, we cease to have a community here. I know most of us do not want to rehash recent events, but if we don't discuss this topic now, will we do it in the middle of the next controversy? I propose polite questioning of what seems to be shills and let them act immaturely if they want to. If they do, we MUST support each other. Yes?

04-11-10  10:53am - 5370 days #10
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Dear RB,
I beg your pardon. Tongue in cheek I mentioned that I wanted to give you a second trust vote. I think that was a thank you. There were several who repeatedly posted responses. I for one was also insulted personally twice. This was a group effort, each in our own way. On a postive note, yes to PU power! RB for president!

04-10-10  03:02pm - 5370 days #42
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I for one will not miss this ridculous attitude shown in this post. I never expected in all my life that I would be happy to learn that anyone was disabled. Maybe now we can legitimate differences of opinion without name calling. RB can I give you a second trust rating? Edited on Apr 10, 2010, 03:06pm

04-10-10  11:13am - 5371 days #33
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Hi Squirrel,
I am not sure what you propose as our future plan. Maybe I am being dense today, but do you mean not reply to craziness?

04-10-10  11:10am - 5371 days #31
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Ed, You are ok in my book. Yes!

04-10-10  11:07am - 5371 days #32
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If this is indeed the end, I am truly ecstatic. I want us together to offer suggestions as to how to avoid such problems or should I call them organized attacks? Khan, what do you suggest?

04-10-10  04:39am - 5371 days #26
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Dear 350Z,
I gave you a trust rating and thought your review was well done. Arguing the merits of a site is fine, hitting below the belt is not. Even if you don't like what someone said, in this case exotics, doesn't make it okay to say something that is overly personal. As for myself, I don't care if you or anyone else likes HB's site, likes her, or flirts with her. It just is none of my business. However, I know exotics from his posts and reviews here. I am positive all of his reviews are from sites he has joined and every review reflects his own true feelings. He has a postive outlook on porn sites, so he gives high scores. That is it, period. You may not care about getting respect from me, but are losing mine. I have reviewed 141 sites and my reviews are most definitely reflective of my own opinions. My scores are all over the place and average about 75. I further suggest that if you want to get PUers to respect your opinions, you either review a few other sites that you have been a member of or post comments about them. You have read others post recently that they have doubts about the sincerity of new reviewers coming to PU, reviewing only site, and then giving scores over 90. Prove your sincerity by acting like an adult and apologising to Exotics. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS! Edited on Apr 10, 2010, 04:43am

04-09-10  03:31pm - 5371 days #15
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Larss,
I trust your review to be about your true feelings and gave you a trust vote. I think you would be a good candidate for an interview as you have contributed a lot at freeones and now here. I don't think you have anything to hide. I want to know about jokes about PU, not about flirting between you and MH. Please don't overreact as we have more than enough already. In case you are unaware, Exotics is very low keyed and never gets involved in anything petty or negative and always has a postive attitude towards everything. Just the fact that he looked at twitter tells me something significant.

04-09-10  03:26pm - 5371 days #14
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I have given larss and 350z positive trust ratings. They both wrote well founded reviews with enough information to deserve our trust. Lets not get carried away here.

04-09-10  02:51pm - 5371 days #10
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Exotics,
I found your post interesting but tantalizing. Please let us know a bit more about what the posts are. By the way, what is she referring to about your review at the best porn review?

04-09-10  02:47pm - 5371 days #9
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I am sorry you feel this way. This crap can turn anyone off. We need to get all of this resolved.

04-09-10  02:42pm - 5371 days #24
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Hi Ed,
A while back I wrote a review of your site and didn't really care for it all that much. While that is how I feel quite honestly, I do like that you have participated and contributed to PU. I would prefer to have given you a higher score after how nice you have been on PU. I feel conflicted as I feel you are an asset to PU and thank you for your contributions and insights. Thank you for your politeness as well as good attitude.

04-09-10  02:23pm - 5371 days #19
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I proposed the three webmasters and thought I was being polite by including MH. If others, including Khan, feel this is not appropriate at this time, I definitely agree. No argument from me. PU is for users, not blatant commercialism. I agree with RB about snide comments too. I did not appreciate being described, as well as other PUers, as testosterone engorged. The meaning was quite clear. We have rules here as well as expect politeness even if we disagree.
On the other topic, I was suggesting both turboshaft and larss as interview subjects. That is up to Khan and company to do as they please, only a suggestion.

04-09-10  06:16am - 5372 days #19
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I agree with Denner here. Webmaster/mistress input is interesting and invaluable, but constant marketing is not how I see PU.

04-09-10  06:12am - 5372 days #11
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I agree about MH. I think we need to hear from webmasters/mistresses that we know a lot less about. Denner, please explain further what you meant when you mentioned those sites.

04-09-10  06:09am - 5372 days #10
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Originally Posted by Denner:


OK, Mbaya got a point - except I'd really do not care to read an interview with miss Hybrid - no need anymore - enough have been said here!

But - IT COULD/MIGHT BE INTERESTING - to get some details from some of the most joined sites (as a start).

Like MetArt - because of the incredible amount of new models, VideoBox - because there's been A LOT of both pros and cons here, how 21st Sextury did the new network, the problem at first and so on - just take a pick from TBP: Top Porn Sites....

AND maybe later on - if this hits the fan: A PU-voting for some special sites....

04-09-10  06:07am - 5372 days #9
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I would like to hear from turboshaft and larss. Both have made a lot of interesting points.

04-07-10  08:52pm - 5373 days Original Post - #1
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I would find it interesting if we had some interviews, as we had in the past. I nominate the three active webmasters/mistresses Advent, Miss Hybrid and Ed2009. We know them as representing their sites, but I want to know more about them as people. What do others think?

04-07-10  07:15pm - 5373 days #15
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I started a thread on this a while back. https://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...ad.html?threadid=814.

04-03-10  07:47pm - 5377 days #7
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Any ideas about how to get more women to contribute to PU?

04-02-10  03:09pm - 5378 days #38
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Sounds very typical of kitten behavior. I have three cats but they are all close to ten years old. They don't do much now, but when they were younger! Car wrestling, cat gymnastics, non stop every day. Very entertaining to watch.

04-01-10  04:01pm - 5379 days #28
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Messmer, it is very true that on Britishtease you DO get yesterday's quality. The pix are not up to todays standards and the videos are unwatchable. But, I did like the content of the photo sets.

04-01-10  03:59pm - 5379 days #11
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Way too wierd for me. I would still know it was a doll no matter how realistic and life like it was. Reminds me in a way of people who set their watches ahead so they would think it was later. How could you forget that it was you who set it ahead?

04-01-10  05:31am - 5380 days Original Post - #1
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As is always the way, when I was looking for something else I found that Oprah's magazine website has several articles about women and their attitudes towards porn. One interesting link is http://www.oprah.com/relationships/Lisa-...lms-Porn-and-Erotica. This is about the modern evolution of porn and how it has changed womens attitudes. Another link I enjoyed reading was http://www.oprah.com/relationships/What-...archers-Find-Answers. My kind of question-what kind of woman watches porn? Another interesting read is http://www.oprah.com/relationships/Do-Women-Watch-Porn. It advises women that watching porn is a kind of foreplay that will keep them focused and not get distracted during sex. Great idea that works for me. An online poll is to be found at http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/How-Do-You-Feel-About-Porn_1. The answers are surprising, but very pro porn. Check it out, especially if your woman argues that women don't watch porn.

03-30-10  06:02am - 5382 days #30
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I like the idea of a uniform site, but have never actually joined one. Any suggestions?

03-30-10  05:55am - 5382 days #35
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Squirrel,
Calling someone a lawyer is a horrible insult. I am surprised that Cybertoad could forgive you. On the other hand, being called an elitist scumbag is a compliment that comes directly from the heart.

03-29-10  10:37pm - 5382 days #49
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I have been deliberately hanging back on this thread. I agree with Ruck that it is a good idea to improve TBP reviews, but I seldom care what they say. Honestly, I feel that the best reviews are written by those of us who care about a site one way or another. Most TBP reviews sound mechanical and uninvolved and read like a checklist. I am sure we all have favorite reviewers who we feel comfortable with. I for one trust Denner and Drooler's opinions the most, although they are not the only ones I would say that about. As far as the fab four of TBP, they are not on the list in my opinion. I am glad we have them as regards site facts, but to me their opinions are quite irrelevant. I do like the idea of guest reviewers though. Variety is the spice of life.

03-28-10  07:40am - 5384 days #30
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I suggest that we change the name from PU to An Elitist Clique of Scumbags (AECS).

03-28-10  07:02am - 5384 days #64
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Larss,
I am happy to see you posting and were not turned off by the initial negativism.

03-28-10  07:00am - 5384 days #41
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Thanks to everyone for their ideas and positive input. I am leaning towards a Hyundai at the moment. I probably will be ready to buy over the summer. For now I am still driving my car from 1999 that still runs.

03-28-10  06:59am - 5384 days #28
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Gcode,
You have done the impossible. I never thought being called a scumbag could be taken as a compliment. I am truly honored to be called one by you and to be lumped together with the other PU scumbags. (I hope you realize I am taking your word in the spirit you meant it and not being sarcastic).

03-28-10  06:53am - 5384 days #30
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GCode,
Thanks for the nice mention of credit for the meatloaf. If it breaks, it probably is due to not enough bread soaked in milk, or even not using an egg. As if that is not enough to think about, if you mix them in, you must make sure it is mixed enough. If you overly handle the loaf mixture you get rock hard results. Great for porn, but terrible meatloaf.

03-28-10  06:50am - 5384 days #14
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Hey Squirrel,
I agree that there are too many scores in the 90's, but I think there is no other way. How people feel is how they feel. I would not overhaul the review system either. The score represents a total overall impression that summarizes all the individual pros and cons. We need that and we need opinions. By the way, I thought that maybe I have been too hard on a lot of sites when I review, but you may have a point. It may be that too many of us give higher scores than are actually deserved.

03-25-10  01:46pm - 5386 days #26
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Yes. "Fucking hell"?

03-25-10  01:32pm - 5386 days #24
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Please explain what you mean. I am curious how you meant your comment.

03-25-10  01:25pm - 5386 days #2
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I agree with everything you said. We need a bit of perspective. Sit back, relax and take a big breath.

03-25-10  01:00pm - 5386 days #21
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Don't get personal, be civil. This thread is about cars, not an excuse to flame inappropiately. Don't ruin PU or we will all suffer.

03-25-10  10:21am - 5387 days #43
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Larss,
I checked out freeones. I see you are a big contributor there and I hope you can become a contributor here as well. By the way, here at PU I and many others review sites that are in the middle, not only our favorites and sites we hated. Any information is helpful to those who have never been a member.

03-25-10  10:16am - 5387 days #86
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Welcome Robin. I am an old fart as well as a fan of trimmed beaver also.

03-25-10  10:14am - 5387 days #8
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Hi RB, I amc hecking out the Mazda. What trucks have you bought? I used to drive a real truck, specifically a Grumman delivery truck. Comparing that to any car is apples and oranges.

03-25-10  08:32am - 5387 days #5
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I like the Golf and the Rondo. I have asked for price quotes on both. Thanks so much for your help.

03-25-10  08:04am - 5387 days #3
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I want a compact or even a subcompact under about 25,000, but am flexible up to 30,000 if it makes sense.

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