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12-23-15  02:16pm - 3287 days #3
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I am glad to hear you are working on it. Can Pantyhose Lane be listed? It used to be. I checked and they are still updating.

12-22-15  02:11pm - 3288 days #17
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Congratulations to the winners. The reviews this week were most excellent!

12-21-15  01:08pm - 3289 days #11
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Keep these in mind for next year, along with National Short Girl Day!

12-21-15  12:00pm - 3289 days #791
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What happend to pantyhoselane? It used to be listed.

12-21-15  09:40am - 3289 days #790
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


Not really a reply, but a note to Amanda. I would be interested in reviewing this site. Can you list it?


Amanda I hope you see this. With all the activity over the past few days, you may have missed my request.

12-19-15  07:40am - 3291 days #789
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


LoveHairy.com is the newest site from the MetArt network.
The site features models with pubic hair, and arm-pit hair.
The sets come from different sites in the MetArt network, so some of the sets might be familiar to you if you've joined different sites in Metart.

A low introductory price of $7.99/month (recurring).


Not really a reply, but a note to Amanda. I would be interested in reviewing this site. Can you list it?

12-19-15  02:01am - 3291 days #12
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You might like Woodman Casting X and FTV Girls. Both sites are big in the niches you mentioned. Czech Casting is also interesting. Edited on Dec 19, 2015, 02:04am

12-18-15  01:18pm - 3292 days #7
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Originally Posted by swh9:


Hello friends

Regular dude, I work a regular 9-5. I was a bit intimidated to come right out a post, so I'm glad I could take some time and drop a line on this thread!

I'm really into amateur and casting type sites. I look forward to chatting with all of you in the future and if you have any site recommendations for me, shoot them over!

Cheers all


Welcome to PU. What sites have you already joined?

12-17-15  06:06am - 3293 days #4
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My thanks as well. I hope that this will make PU stronger than ever.

12-15-15  12:09pm - 3295 days #13
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I see the free download upgrades every time I go on the computer. Has anyone actually used 10 yet? Any opinion on it?

12-07-15  04:13pm - 3303 days #29
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Rabbit,

If you are skeptical that a raffle will bring new participants, do you have other ideas on that topic?

I see a small uptick recently as to new and almost new members getting involved with a posting or two. Can this be a sign of better days?

12-07-15  04:10pm - 3303 days #28
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Originally Posted by rabbit:


Hi everyone, I wanted to jump in and post some updates and feedback.

First off, Exotics- thanks for posting your honest opinion. While we cannot fight the industry trend (less quality sites), there's certainly still enough great sites out there to drive enough new reviews & comments to make this site livelier, more useful and interesting. I doubt anyone would write 12 reviews per month, but if we can get 3-4 new reviews per day from the community as a whole, I believe it would be a win.

I don't see the raffle as a way to drive new members to the site. Rick & his team were very much aware of the fact that participation died off when the raffle was taken down. My primary hope with it is to get back some of the older users and get them sharing again.

My secondary goal is to show our appreciation to you the loyal users. The amount of people still willing to spend on porn is shrinking with time and there were strong wishes expressed by many of you about the raffle. And so we listened.

We have the pages designed and ready to go live Wednesday Dec 9th. The raffle will be somewhat different and more simple, but the idea is the same. Sure, there will be issues with it, just like some valid ones you brought up about the previous raffle. We're aware and ready to face that. Please keep in mind, we will run it as an experiment for a month or 2 and see if it accomplishes the goal of increasing participation.

So please bear with us and of course as it launches we'll depend on your continuous feedback in adjusting and making it successful.

Enjoy your weekend!

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12-05-15  03:52am - 3305 days #24
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Where do we stand with restarting the raffle? It seems that a lot of time has passed.

11-06-15  12:05pm - 3334 days #5
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I have not been to the Pyrenees either. But, I have been to Spain.

If you had to pick a place to visit that you have not been to, where would you like to go?

Related question, have you visited anywhere that you would say was really special? I went on a trip to Israel with my wife and we saw the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem and we also went to Bethlehem. If you have never been to either, I think you would find them to be amazing as well as most definitely unforgettable.

11-05-15  02:19pm - 3335 days #22
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The geisha girl bottle eventually was given to a family member as a gift. I also put up some shelving to showcase more bottles.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask.

11-05-15  02:02pm - 3335 days #2
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Have you ever been to the Pyrenees? Is there a special connection that you have?

11-04-15  03:36pm - 3336 days #4
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Originally Posted by Amanda:


Great idea! If I can be of any help, please don't hesitate.


Hi Amanda,
As long as Pyrenees is agreeable, I would prefer that you send him some questions, create a new thread and that us PUers follow up with questions and comments of our own. Thanks for offering to help.

11-03-15  06:17am - 3337 days Original Post - #1
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In thinking about the recent thread looking for PUers to interview, I remembered that we used to have our own non judgmental interviews.

It was a forum thread where a member was asked to answer questions selected by nomination or by Khan. I know because I was the last one to be interviewed. Khan listed some of the questions and answers that he thought would be interesting. They were mostly about our lives outside of porn and PU, but not pushy and personal. Hobbies and talents were the best topics.

I think we should revive the concept. I nominate Pyrenees for the first interview and also nominate him for something we have never had, an honorary award for contributions by a new member, a kind of Rookie of the Year Award.

11-03-15  05:38am - 3337 days #3
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Thank you for starting this thread. I had no idea this niche was so rich and diverse.

I have a few questions, if you would be so kind.

1) Are the stars found here generally the same stars that do other niches or do you find many who do only this? I would think the usual pornstars that you find doing other non pee videos were doing these for the money and just go through the motions.

2) Are there specific countries that predominate here? That seems to be the case with many niches.

3) Are there any standout, well recognized stars within the niche? A big name here would be?

4) I know you don't want to compare sites, but are there any major names that a new viewer would go to first? If you like BDSM Kink is the place, if you like nude photos you go to Metart for example.

10-27-15  04:59am - 3344 days #3
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21sextury is fairly good and inexpensive as well. If there are any specific things that you like, the range of niche sites is huge.

10-24-15  02:52pm - 3347 days #8
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Under the old system reviews were judged and placed in a category.

The least detailed reviews got awarded no raffle tickets.

The next most detailed got one raffle ticket.

The most helpful reviews got two tickets.

Or did I remember wrong?

10-23-15  04:37pm - 3348 days #2
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Originally Posted by pinkerton:


I've recently posted a review of a site that I'm currently a member of, writing the actual review in a text editor and then cutting and pasting into the PU review entry page. I find the 1000 character limits on the Pros and Cons sections very restricting - any chance these limits could be increased to say, 2000 chars each? Or are my reviews just too detailed?


I would not criticize your review as having too much detail, but it can be done with fewer words. Generally I would suggest that the information you present in the pros and cons be simplified and the detail added to the bottom line line. Your bottom line is well expanded already, so I would say just be a bit more concise and you would be fine.

I don't think there is any necessity to increase the number of characters in the pros and cons.

I would rather see a lengthy review like yours than the simple, say nothing reviews that we often get from newbies.

Overall, I think you made an excellent contribution to the PU information base.

10-23-15  03:34pm - 3348 days #3
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Originally Posted by rabbit:


Hello everyone,
Just a heads up about a small change we did to when reviews become expired. Previously, this was set at 6 months. We've increased it to 12.
I think you'll agree with me that these days most sites change very little. On RabbitsReviews our goal was to get a fresh update every 6 months and we still try to do that for our top sites. But majority of paysites change very little even over a several year period. Sad state of affairs with few exceptions.
We felt there would be value in keeping the reviews active for longer, especially since there are less of them written vs. a few years ago.
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Do you refer to the PU reviews or the TBP ones? If you mean the PU reviews, the time set for their "expiry" is irrelevant. I submit that what really matters is how old they are when they cannot be accessed even as an archive.

10-21-15  04:11pm - 3350 days #5
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We definitely need more reviews, but we also need more comments and replies to liven things up. A poorly written review can be rewarded with no points towards the raffle. Effort should be rewarded, not a review written with no thought and obviously done to get a chance in the raffle.

I feel that the point system is ok to use, but not for trust votes. That seldom meant much in the past and was easy to game. I would like to see likes/dislikes as interesting input instead, but not towards the raffle.

I think the raffle should have points awarded for poll questions as those are part of the intangible factors that make for an interesting site. Edited on Oct 21, 2015, 04:15pm

10-16-15  08:03am - 3355 days #40
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Originally Posted by enjoybucks:


You are not right. For real amateur site low quality is normal. This site updated regularly and from November 2015 BlackNextdoor launched HD updates. About regularly updates..Check screen below:



Also about rates. You can get discount on some review or discount sites.


How about a discount through the Best Porn? This is a review site that does not offer any deals for joining this site.

I see your link still does not work.

You have your chance to make a good impression as well as help promote your site.

10-16-15  08:02am - 3355 days #39
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Originally Posted by enjoybucks:


You are not right. For real amateur site low quality is normal. This site updated regularly and from November 2015 BlackNextdoor launched HD updates. About regularly updates..Check screen below:



Also about rates. You can get discount on some review or discount sites.


How about a discount through the Best Porn? This is a review site that does not offer any deals for joining this site.

10-11-15  07:19am - 3360 days #12
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I firmly believe that some of the improvements that are being discussed need to be prioritized. Deleting links to dead affiliates can wait as they will still be there when you have more time.

Further, participation grows in multiples and is not a matter of addition. An example would be that I am less likely to take a few hours to work on a review when I think that no one will read them or find them useful. As a general statement, the number of replies to reviews is pathetically way down compared to the past.

Along the same lines, we see reviews or comments from newbies that go unnoticed. In the past someone would wish a welcome to PU or suggest improvements to the writers contribution. If I were a first time participant and got no response, I would never bother again. We also see questions going unanswered.

In contrast, my first participation on PU was a comment that drew numerous responses. I complained about a billing problem, and quickly saw this was a much better place to vent than any other. I stayed on and continued participating as I saw what a friendly place this was.

Another issue that should be addressed is that I have seen participation that violates PUs policy of being only about pay sites. NO promotions of free porn were ever permitted in the past.

Lets not lose our way during this time of transition to a new PU. Edited on Oct 11, 2015, 07:49am

10-09-15  05:55am - 3362 days #9
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Originally Posted by rearadmiral:


I appreciate all your efforts in improving the site. Obviously I have no idea how things are going but consider the value of bringing the raffle back. That could be a monumental task and may need to be delayed and maybe it isn't financially viable right now, but consider it for the future. For right or wrong reasons the raffle seemed to drive a lot of participation here. It was unique (I think) among user-driven sites and there were a lot of regulars who made daily contributions. This place was pretty busy with activity. That all stopped immediately after the raffle ended. The site has certainly gained new members, many of whom are genuinely interested in contributing valuable reviews and comments, but the site has never really recovered from the loss of the raffle.

As I said, I don't know the economics of it, but it seems possible that with more traffic that there would be more people buying memberships through TBP/PU to generate income for the site.

I'm not sure that this would even be possible, but what if the raffle wasn't a cash-value gift card outside of porn? What if you were able to get a pool of sites willing to offer a free membership for a month and the winner(s) of the raffle could choose a membership from that pool. I'll admit that there are problems with this, but they aren't insurmountable.

Final note to all the PU members who visit here, whether you contribute or lurk: ALWAYS buy your porn memberships by clicking through from TBP/PU. Those referrals are, I assume, this site's lifeblood.

Thanks again for all the work you're doing to keep these excellent sites going.


I second the idea of a free membership. Is this idea feasible?

10-07-15  04:46pm - 3364 days #6
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I see the edit tool is not functioning.

I want to clarify my point. I think what you guys have been working is great and undoubtedly necessary. Where I think you have been dropping the ball is in not focusing from day one on getting more participation. Witty is completely right when he states the business model of PU is of free honest consumer information, especially reviews.

Without more of what we really need, we will eventually have a well run, greatly programmed site with state of the art servers, etc., but a ghost site that no one cares about even if you get some new interest by using social media.

I have so far avoided being negative about the site as it means a lot to me and I know I am not the only one.

10-07-15  04:37pm - 3364 days #5
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I could not agree with you more. PU as it is needs a LOT more participation or it will become irrelevant.

10-07-15  04:35pm - 3364 days #4
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Glad to hear that things are moving along since there hasn't been much obvious change since August. I can't believe that Rick and Co. weren't constantly updating their code and servers over the years

My on the raffle (or similar project) is this: The raffle drove a lot of participation in the past that went away after it was dropped. In keeping with the original intent of PU (that being a consumer oriented site with consumer feedback as it's primary marketing model), then the raffle makes a lot of sense. It brings back those who don't contribute much any more and it draws in newbies. It goes back to the adage that if you want to draw the masses then nothing is better than free food or beer (or, with the raffle, cold hard cash). In some forum post long ago I advocated the point that participation is really the driving force behind PU because it generates a lot of basically free and insightful content for TheBestPorn that no other site really has.

If you're fine with the current level of participation then skip reinventing the wheel and ditch the raffle (I'd probably ditch the whole badge system as well too). We've learned to live without it.

There has been some talk about doing a big social media and other marketing push. While I expect it will probably draw some more eyeballs here, it probably won't pump up the participation level as much as might be expected.


I could not agree with you more. PU as it is needs a LOT more participation or it will become irrlevant.

09-26-15  01:39pm - 3375 days #4
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Originally Posted by jizzaman:


Do you download torrents? Because Gaytorrent.ru has a HUGE selection with multiple categories.

You cannot link to free sites here.

09-25-15  05:41am - 3376 days #7
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Originally Posted by LPee23:


I can't believe that there isn't an old thread on this to revive, so I am starting a new one. This is in response to the recent poll, and I think the topic is worthy of a thread.

Is female ejaculation fake or real? Is it cum or urine? Is it all of the above?

What makes this a really confusing subject is the way that female ejaculation is shown in porn. Much of what you see coming from some sites claiming to show female ejaculation is actually models either peeing or squirting out a douche. For example April O'Neil talked about a "Lesbian Bukakke" scene she did in one of those 'Ask a Porn Star' videos. The models were told they had three choices - squirt if they can, pee if they can't, or fill up their vagina with water and force it out if they get bladder shy. That sums it up for a lot of the squirting you see in porn - it is really a mixed bag.

If you see a woman shoot a brief but heavy gush of clear fluid from the mouth of her vagina, not her urethra, right after a scene cut, that is a simulated squirt using a douche.

So to clear up the confusion, maybe we can start by agreeing on which hole female ejaculate comes from. This should be easy to establish, but unfortunately different sources are all over the place on this. There actually is a clear answer, but the writing out there just does not do it justice. The most common misconception about female ejaculation is that it comes from both of two sets of glands called the Bartholin's and Skene's glands.



Look at this illustration of Bartholin's and Skene's glands. Have you ever in your life seen a video of a woman squirting from either of these areas? If you have please let me know, because I have seen literally tens of thousands of squirting scenes, both amateur and professional, and I have never seen this. If there is a secretion from the Bartholin's gland, it is only a miniscule amount and part of a larger overall female ejaculation response. The Skene's glands are more complicated, and we will get back to that.

Masters and Johnson showed in their pioneering work on the female sexual response that the Bartholin's glands did not play the role in vaginal lubrication previously thought. They produce a small amount during arousal, and the majority of lubrication comes from the lining of the vagina itself. This once prominent role that the Bartholin's glands were though to have in vaginal lubrication seems to have gotten confused with female ejaculation and perpetuated in much of the writing out there. For example on Wikipedia, the article on female ejaculation states "... Bartholin's gland believed to be important for the phenomenon of female ejaculation," while the article on the Bartholin's gland itself correctly goes over the Masters and Johnson research. So the Bartholin's gland is out, or if it plays any role in female ejaculation, it is a peripheral role involving the release of an almost imperceptible amount of fluid.

The valid anatomic basis for female ejaculation lies in the Skene's glands, also called the paraurethral glands, the lesser vestibular glands, and the female prostate. The anatomy of these glands is really poorly described in most accounts of female ejaculation. They are often illustrated as one hole to either side of the urethra. In reality, the glands have ducts draining into the actual urethral duct in some women, and they are totally absent in many other women.

The thinking is that the tissue that develops into the prostate in males forms these glands instead in females. Studies have been published showing that they secrete many proteins associated with the male prostate, such as prostate specific antigen (PSA). In recognition of this, many scientists in the field are advocating that we clear up the confusion and just start calling the glands the female prostate.

This makes a lot of sense, and it even explains the link between female ejaculation and the g-spot. The prostate in men is a sensitive sexual organ, so why shouldn't it be the same in women? As you may or may not know, men can be stimulated to orgasm through prostate massage alone, done with a finger in the butt hole. It's actually an undisputed medical fact. So no wonder the female prostate, located around the urethra right at the g-spot, can be stimulated to a squirting orgasm in women who possess the glands.

So, if you are staying with me, then we can agree that female ejaculate comes from the female prostate, right? Hopefully, you are starting to get some clarity on this complicated topic? But there is still the question of what actually is female ejaculation, what would fully characterize the response, and where do you draw the line with urination? If female ejaculation is a function only of the female prostate, which is still relatively small, then female ejaculation should be a small, brief, squirt of fluid from the urethra. There are many women who do exactly this, in amateur and professional porn, and in real life.

So what about the women who shoot a full liter out across the room when they squirt? There is only one structure down there that can hold that much fluid, and that is the bladder. So it is just peeing, right?

It is not that simple. What if some cases of female ejaculation involve emptying the urinary bladder and the female prostate at the same time? Who is to say that female ejaculate cannot be a mix of fluid from the female prostate and urine? People tend to dichotomize between the two, but to state what is obvious to me, who is to say that urine does not play a greater role in human sexuality than we think? If female ejaculate contains urine, plus female prostatic fluid, then is that not its true biology?

Now, we are left with some answers, but more questions as a result. Women's advocates are right to support efforts towards a better understanding of female sexuality. The criticism that much prior study in the field has emphasized male sexuality over female sexuality seems to be true.

To end with one final thought, what if urination as part of female ejaculation is not an accident, but really just a variant of female biology? While we are just starting to understand female ejaculation, the role of urination in human sexuality is completely devoid of any formal study. It has been written off as a paraphilia, a sexual deviation, but in reality it is just a variation on a theme in biology. Maybe someday people will know and accept more.


I think it would be very interesting if you were to start a thread about which sites you like and why. I know nothing about peeing videos and I am sure I am not alone.

09-25-15  05:29am - 3376 days #13
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Originally Posted by Pyrenees:


Weewillywinky

I am into the most extreme porn possible. I must humble disagree with you on Ryan Madison scenes. He has some of the most brutal scenes in porn that are both consenting and passionate. If you look at my posts I have seen it ALL. And I love his stuff. Now having said that I can understand he may not be for everyone. But he has some hotter than heck scenes man sooo hawt. I can give you specific instances if you want.


I would like very much if you would start a thread about extreme porn sites that you like and why. I know you like the Kink sites and those by the Adult Doorway, the company that includes FacialAbuse.

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I suggested to Boris that they should have more indoor scenes instead of outdoor. Lighting was sometimes a problem outdoors, but there was also a matter of taste. I think indoor scenes are more intimate and sexy. He disagreed.

I also suggested that he should use some models, both male and female that were a little less perfect. I feel that he had models that seemed like they were not mere mortals like us subscribers. They seemed to me to be gods and goddesses carved in stone. He disagreed.

Just letting you know that the site was a lot of fun and games, but still had some room for improvement.

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If they are using content from Fucking Gamble, then they did not shoot it. They may have bought the site or they may have bought the content. The old FG site was totally independent, not part of any group or network and was Hungarian. If I remember correctly Boris was the owner and webmaster. I wrote to him several times about the content, as well as their use of English. I rewrote some of their scene descriptions for him. I think that the person answering my request at Tainster did not know what they were talking about.

I realize that I am nitpicking, but it would be nice to know that the Tainster website knows about their own product.

By the way, I just cancelled my subscription to Tainster. They responded with an offer of a discount-too bad I paid less than their offer when I first signed up. Not exactly inspiring my confidence.

Continuing with my Tainster experience, the videos were nearly all well below HD quality as well as having very poor camera work. It was just boring, even though they had the type of content that I usually like. Edited on Sep 23, 2015, 03:56pm

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I wrote to sexgames. info@groupsexgames.com is the email address.

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Originally Posted by Divinx:


GroupSexGames is one of the sites at the Tainster Portal. It has some of the content of FuckingGamble, but not all; perhaps they intend to keep adding more content in a future time? Hope so.

I liked Fucking Gamble, and every game was divided into a lot of parts, had photos, and many unique good features. GroupSexGames, at least when accessed within the Tainster Portal, does have no photos, lack of information on performers, and the whole game in one long clip (mind, they can be hours long). So all in all, they provide a cut out version of FuckingGamble, with just the basics.

Let's see if they update with new games, that would be great!


Thanks for the information. This is very interesting as I knew the content looked familiar. I asked them about this and this is the response:
"Dear Sir,

We don't buy any content. We shoot our own content exclusively for our sites.

Kind regards,

Simone".

From what you report, this is not true.

09-21-15  01:16pm - 3380 days #779
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Originally Posted by Amanda:


Hi mbaya!

We don't have it listed any longer since we were getting a security certificate warning when trying to join.


What about groupsexgames? I see it listed, but is it a new site that bought their content? Is it a total coincidence that it looks like the same content? It is not a member of the same Tainster network although it is owned by the same company. Edited on Sep 21, 2015, 01:28pm

09-21-15  08:44am - 3380 days #777
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I reviewed fuckinggamble.com several years ago. PU used to have it listed as inactive and now it is not listed at all. I found at least some of its content on groupsexgames.com.

Have they changed names or ownership or did someone buy their content?

Should TBP have it listed? It was an interesting site with several very positive reviews.

09-18-15  05:28am - 3383 days #7
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Originally Posted by elephant:


Yeah I've never been very good at explaining things lol, it sounds good in my head but when I read back things I've wrote I often think, what the hell is that meant to all mean. I should of listened more in my English language lessons I guess.

It doesn't make much sense as it is with the thread title as my initial idea to just put more hardcore stuff changed and I wanted to open it more wider.

I guess the thing the sites have in common is that they are not doing porn in the conventional way most sites in their genre are. They are trying to make porn much more beautiful with the backdrops and makeup, ie not dressing in your usual pornstar clothing with heavy makeup. They are being much more creative in their movie output with some having a plot or being more spontaneous and not predictable. I've watched so many movies from so many studios over the years and they often stick to a formula and it all gets very tiresome after a few movies, well that's what I find. I also think that you get to do more about personalities of the models with the style of lots of the sites I mentioned.

Obviously these are all my thoughts on how I maybe hope porn will begin to go down with making high end production porn with a little differnce. Lots of the sites are newish and some been round for years so they are not alike in that aspect I agree, some are just finding their feet and I would love to see grow into really successful bigger sites.

You mention FTVgirls been like many other sites in a more old school, which sites do you refer to. I've always seen them more appealing than most solo sites as you get to know the girls personality in ftv girls unlike sites like nubiles which I find a little boring if I'm honest. I also love the public nudity stuff so thats why I chose them cause they do edgier stuff and great lesbian movies.

Maybe it was a stupid idea for a thread I dunno, I got carried away perhaps.


I don't think it was a stupid idea. I found it hard to follow as you added sites that I was not sure fit your original premise.

You may very well be onto something as to whether this is a trend. Porn needs alternatives if it is to appeal to a broader market.

09-17-15  07:30pm - 3383 days #4
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Let me elaborate for a moment. Do you any of these sites self identify as being of this type? How do they describe themselves and their content?

Further, the only one I was a member of at any time is FTVgirls. It is not new and certainly not small. I think they have a lot in common with many sites that are more old school traditional. What do they have in common with Tushy, as an example?

09-17-15  06:54pm - 3384 days #3
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Originally Posted by elephant:


This thread is work in progress, Please feel free to add your suggestions. Looking for sites that think a little outside the box, modern design orientated sites, high class production, sites that push boundaries, featuring stunners but have a fresh approach to porn in general and that the movies and photos will often appeal to women too.

Update. Can a mod please help me change the title as I now would like to give a roundup of edgy sites and call the thread. 'Sites that are creative, edgey, unique, passionate and favor quality over quantity.'

I know sites broke away into the making porn beautiful and more artistic a few years ago now with the introduction of xart and then lots of sites started to have the white backdrops and dabble into this genre.

Well I'm not going to mention all of these sites as this thread is more about the new breed of this genre I'm calling Beautcore, essentially sites that step out of the making movies by numbers and are thinking about what goes into a movie, quality in every aspect, unique hardcore with an edge, sites that think outside the box and I hope to god this is the way porn is evolving cause it looks great on certain new sites I'm seeing and hope we see more studios actually working on quality over quantity.

Anyway this will be a list I'll add to as I find more sites, I'll also be adding a kind of mini reference guide to say more about the sites, so stay tuned for me adding more to the thread as time goes on.

Hardcore

1. Blacked.com
2. Tushy.com
3. Colette.com (also lesbian)
4. Myveryfirsttime.com
5. Vipissy.com (also lesbian)

Solo and Lesbian

1. Watch4beauty.com
2. FTVgirls.com
3. Yonitale.com
4. Zishy.com


I checked out a few you have listed, and I think they are not for me. I like a harder edge than what they offer.

However, this may turn out to be great thing for getting women and couples into porn. Not all guys share my taste either.

Question simply out of curiosity. How do sites meet your standards to be in this niche? In other words, what do these sites have in common, speaking purely objectively?

I know you have tried to explain with an answer, but what you stated sounds so subjective. I don't mean to sound argumentative, I just would like a little more solid information. Edited on Sep 17, 2015, 06:59pm

09-17-15  06:48pm - 3384 days #7
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WWW,

The best I think is Purecfnm as far as being least fake. If that is not adequate for you I have no better ideas.

09-15-15  07:02am - 3386 days #5
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Originally Posted by Amanda:


I must say I've always enjoyed the CFNM niche. It's very erotic (in my opinion) to see a naked man being ravished by a woman. The female form is beautiful, of course, but there's beauty in the male form too, and obviously a lot of straight porn glazes over that. It's pretty exciting to think about making a man's naked body your playground.


Are there any sites that you would recommend?

09-14-15  10:11am - 3387 days #2
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Can you be more specific as to what he might find interesting? Kink.com has a lot of very highly regarded sites with a BDSM theme. Edited on Sep 14, 2015, 10:17am

09-13-15  04:00pm - 3388 days #3
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Its great to hear from you. It always seemed to me that your presence here was appreciated within the PU community. Maybe your being here will encourage more participation by gay members!

Is there anything further you would like to add about how you see CFNM? The floor is yours. Edited on Sep 13, 2015, 04:15pm

09-13-15  07:49am - 3388 days Original Post - #1
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CFNM is an acronym meaning Clothed Female Naked Male. This is a minor porn niche and there are not very many websites with this type of theme.

The appeal is to a very diverse type of porn viewer. It is mentioned in recommendations of porn for women, on gay review websites and appeals to straight males as well. Some things that are common on all CFNM videos is that the females are the initiators of sex and that the men are treated as sex objects. Nothing misogynistic here and the women are very much into the sex. Another standard feature is that the videos have a plot or a premise that makes it work. These are 180 degrees different from your standard gonzo.

There are basically two types of videos.

One kind is on US websites and appeals to straight men. The women are very nicely and elegantly dressed, with nice makeup, jewelry etc. The sites show women and often groups of women, who are the initiators of the sex, often hand jobs and/or blowjobs. Sometimes there is even vaginal sex, but that is uncommon. Female nudity is not featured, but you may see breasts or panties pulled aside vaginas. The focus is on male models as sex objects. An example is that a group of four very attractive women pass a construction site. One of the men gives them a wolf whistle. They respond by stripping him and then taking turns giving him a blow job. They are very enthusiastic and even vie for their chance. This is pure fantasy and it works for me.

One site I rather liked was CFNMSecret from Reality Kings. Every scene has oral and vaginal and most videos are in 1080P. Another good one is CFNMSpot from Bang Brothers. It is still very small but has worthwhile videos. One I never joined is by Team Skeet and is called CFNMteens. An example of a different style would be DancingBear. It has a large number of women in a room celebrating a bachelorette party, graduation etc. Their newer videos come in at 720P and are very sharp, as are their older ones at 852x480. An interesting twist is that in each scene there are several male strippers, white, black and latino and the women are too. There are even a few Asian women as well. Each stripper goes around the room getting bjs from the women until one of them makes him cum. Occasionally there is a little nudity and even vaginal. Not all the women give bjs and I think that the ones who do are paid. There is a lot cheering and noise making by those who are at the party.

A variation is on UK based websites, such as Purecfnm. The women here are outstanding and the sex is hand jobs and blow jobs. There is a great deal of story and acting and the performers have non sexual interactions as a result. Some of the females are UK porn stars and some are user submitted or genuine amateurs. This can get very hot as often in a group you will find women who do not perform any sex, but seem to greatly enjoy being on the set. It seems very real, not staged.

The other type that appeals to gay men are femdom with humiliation. I am not into that at all, but our fellow Puer gaypornolover is and his favorite site is heylittledick. There are quite a few of these sites and they are primarily UK based. If this interests you, look up his name and the sites he has reviewed.

I realize that this is not for everybody as there is little or no female nudity, but it can be a refreshing alternative to standard gonzo. It is interesting to see women empowered to be sexual. I for one would love the idea of being seen as a sex object. Edited on Sep 13, 2015, 08:00am

09-09-15  01:36pm - 3392 days #2
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I hope this thread reaches out to fill our needs and helps create a stronger PU.

09-08-15  02:19pm - 3393 days Original Post - #1
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1) More female PU comments, reviews and participation in the Forum. Studies show there is a strong representation of women who watch and enjoy porn. On PU we have never had more than a token female here or there. The welcome shown to them has been very warm and respectful. It doesn't matter if your interest is heterosexual or lesbian, as we have had both here.

2) That goes for gay participation as well. I only recall two gay porn reviewers in the seven years I have been here. I realize it is tough to be a minority, but you are and have been most welcome and treated very fairly.

3) Interactive participation by Web site owners, or for that matter other porn professionals. You have a unique perspective and insight that we need. I understand that many are here for site promotion, but I am talking about adding to the conversation.

4) Of course we always need new participation from anyone who is interested.

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