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02-08-19  04:52pm - 2144 days #487
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I can't think of even one reason to trust a yelp review.

You have no idea who wrote the comments, often are just venting, and usually focus vary narrowly on only one aspect. "My soup was cold and I had to return it to be warmed up. The waiter looked at me funny." You have quantity to such an extent that the reviews can't ever be useful. If you have 1500 two sentence reviews of a restaurant, would you read more than a small handful?

Yelp has almost zero requirements to post a review true. PU is easy to post on if you meet a few simple requirements. PU does not even charge-PU will pay you for your opinions.

By the way reviews on Amazon are a joke. There have been numerous cases where people have been paid to post fake reviews.

02-08-19  04:33pm - 2144 days #485
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I would also want more webmaster participation. That was always a plus here.

02-08-19  03:12pm - 2144 days Original Post - #1
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I have been thinking a lot about how the raffle works and how to make it better.

1) If you want reviews of sites that have none, make them worth three points instead of two. If it is part of a network, it should not be a network review, but one that fully describes the value of that individual site.
Far too many reviews are useless as the network already has reviews.

I also think that a lot of new sites would be too small for us to normally pay for. Periodically raffle a free membership to generate publicity. I would expect that there are webmasters who would love that idea.

2) If you want more new faces to review sites, make newbie reviewers excellent level reviews worth three points also.This would apply to the first five reviews and would give them an advantage.

3) To avoid overly rewarding frequent reviewers, make the raffle once a month. In a normal four week period there would be 12 prizes right now. Give fewer, say six, and increase their value.

Maybe?

02-08-19  01:52pm - 2144 days #483
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I am not sure I get your drift.

Yelp has very biased, relatively incomplete and unbalanced reviews. So? Bad for them and I don't trust what they have as reviews.

Many times PU has the only basic information you can find let alone is not conflicted by the fact that porn review sites live on referral fees. That has been true from day one and is still true.

Never say the risk is low nowadays. There are big sites that are honest to be sure, but anyone can start a website.
I find it hard to feel that an unknown website is worth my money.

02-08-19  01:38pm - 2144 days #85
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Originally Posted by Shen:


Hello everyone, thought I might as well drop my first post here. I did a review around two weeks ago and intend to push for more, if I have any spare time at all. I am in my formative years so please cut me some slack

Thanks lk2fireone and mbaya for welcoming me through my review and I hope you are all well.


What kind of sites do you like?

02-08-19  01:11pm - 2144 days #3
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I have several reviews ready to go.
I am waiting to see if PU has any serious changes in store.

02-08-19  12:33pm - 2144 days Original Post - #1
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As it is now Friday afternoon, I will go out on a limb and say that the raffle winners got theirs.

The other day I sent an email to the winner/shill. No response. No surprise there as would expect someone to use a fake email that is not even valid.

I propose that the winners prize to towards a fourth winner next week. To avoid even an appearance of a conflict or interest, I don't want to be considered.

This is not about me winning. It is the integrity of PU.

Will this thread get a positive response?

Will it even be read?

02-08-19  11:56am - 2144 days #94
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Looking at several threads on the difficulties lately, it seems to appear that the operators of both these websites have an extreme difficulty adjusting to any changes.

Looking back even 10 years, there was ideas, projects, and other changes that would be done to the website, or the procedures and time and time again staff seem to have huge amounts of difficulty adjusting to the changes. Not so much the members they seem to be able to roll with it
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So I think having a post like this discussing what is needs to be in the review is not the problem. It's the problem is the staff does not know what is supposed to be in a review apparently based on some of how past reviews that we've been seeing for quite a long time, staff is not aware of their conduct that's needed. We can hardly start a thread to help staff since they are not aware of the difficulties they are having. It's not the members here that have a problem. It's the staff that can simply not adjust to the changes they are making. Which makes no sense at all.

It may seem that I am not very forgiving our understanding, just the opposite if this was a brand-new website starting out for the first time I would be very helpful in understanding about any problems of fledging company has. But this particular company has been around for very long time I am not confident in the way it's being run personally myself right now. I don't trust the reviews because they are spotty and obviously filled out by trolls. The staff is not reviewing the reviews like it should be done. So why would somebody put trust in the reviews that are being done here?

If I look at all the regular members, that you reviews they do them quite well. Always exceptional and detailed. Why staff members could not see the other reviews that vary so greatly that a monkey could fill them out. Yet they don't notice it. Yet now we're supposed to just simply understand that they don't know what they're doing? They forgot what they were supposed to do? I have no idea where this is going. Everyone keeps blaming it on the changes? Meanwhile most of us are simply adapted to it easily. So it's not the process of reviewing needs to be taught to members, the staff also needs to know what is proper in a review and how to identify that quickly.


I could not agree more. There is a comment written by an obvious out in the open troll. What does it take to get it deleted? I added a reply that said exactly that.

It was approved, but no action was taken. WTF? Was the comment approved without even reading it?

Another point that I feel obligated to make is concerning complaints that PU is too inclusive. Ok, I get it, lets do what we can to make the site more open.

I revived a thread for new members to introduce themselves. It used to be pinned to the top of the forum listings. Why it is not now is completely beyond me.
Both Mike C and Freddie seem to be committed to rewarding new members to get them to stay and contribute.

Nether one replied to a member who has contributed a first review that was excellent and then took the time to get on the new members thread. WTF? Why not?

You cannot let the site slide downward and then complain that it is not what it should be. Edited on Feb 08, 2019, 12:08pm

02-07-19  10:52am - 2145 days #478
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What is also true is that many many sites that are listed will never get a review. They have been listed from before the days of HD.

The reason for the appearance of insularity is that we do not have enough active members, not that we are no welcoming and tolerant.

02-07-19  10:02am - 2145 days #474
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Originally Posted by merc77:


I would contribute more reviews but many of the sites I want to review aren't listed here. They have tried to contact said sites but to no avail.

I also know this site is tilted more toward straight porn as 95% of the sites out there are geared for them so I understand it. I do wish the sites I want to review would at least reply with their reasons for not wanting to be posted here.

As for the raffle and the controversy, I understand the frustration of those who have been members for much longer than me.

I enjoy this site as it is also fun to communicate with other porn enthusiasts such as myself.



Requests for new site listings have often gone unnoticed.
Management should update us on what is going on. Otherwise, it looks like no one is minding the store.

02-07-19  09:38am - 2145 days #81
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This thread is still open for new people to introduce themselves.

02-07-19  09:36am - 2145 days #89
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Well worth reviving, no?

02-07-19  09:29am - 2145 days #13
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I think this is worth restarting. Please feel free to suggest other ways to get new participation.

02-07-19  09:23am - 2145 days #472
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I am glad to hear from you. When I first joined Rick owned the site and was fairly active. He occasionally started threads and reacted to problems/comments/concerns from members. Hint, be like Rick. Yes we are not going back to the past, but that doesn't mean there are no lessons to be learned from it.

One lesson we all learned from is that trolls or shills can ruin PU and make it die. Not only that, but some really unpleasant things were said here by some of those unwelcome destructive guests. I remember one webmistress who called several of us degenerates and worse. I was singled out by name on her website. Sometimes these shills or trolls work for a site and sometimes they have been known to reward their members if they open a PU account and talk up their site. I was afraid this would be the end of PU and it most definitely hurt our membership.

This same webmistress had her members go on RabbitsReviews and vote her site the site of the year. At that time PU and Rabbits were separate.

Some crap reviews are written by well intentioned, but lazy people. Both Khan and Amanda sent them advice and there used to be a forum thread specifically on what to do. RA remembers it-it was pinned to the forum to provide easy access.

Bottom line though, rarely or never do crap reviewers ever come back for a second review. I speak from 10 and a half years of watching.

You want more participation and I could not agree more. I wrote a forum thread called "help wanted" and it was renewed several times. We used to have an unofficial policy of welcoming new reviewers who earned at least a single point. We gave positive trust ratings and sent a reply of welcome to their reviews. I was once a newbie and got a lot of encouragement from those already here.

The raffle though, has to remain based on minimum merit. Without standards, the reviews are not going to be useful or respected. Edited on Feb 07, 2019, 09:59am

02-07-19  09:04am - 2145 days #471
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Thoughts I try typing it shorter.

1. New Staff should be a member no less then six months to learn the ropes.

2. Make raffles 2x a month, with a higher prizes, have 5 winners. Make it easier to have time to review the qualifying reviews.

3. Members can only win once a month, changing the above will help rotate members reviews and encourage reviews.

4. Put a word minimum that make sit hard to have trolls like we just did.

5. Pick 5 sites you would like to see reviewed each month, this will encourage members to review less popular sites. Removing the sameness.

6. There needs to be a better reporting system, members caught all these mistakes, not staff and a better reporting system could have avoided this and if you take my ideas on every two weeks it will allow more time to investigate potential fraud/troll.

7. Cut off for reviews in the week prior the Tuesday that had no raffle, that give staff a full week to evaluate the reviews.


My other post had longer explanation, have any questions let me know.


Point one-I agree.
Points two and three-twice a month drawing with winner only once a month is fine with me. Hell, I contributed even after the raffle was suspended a few years back.
Point four-We already have a rule about the minimum words needed for a qualifying review.
Point five- I think this is a good idea. You could even give a free membership provided the winner writes a review. Let me also suggest three points awarded for a review of a site that has none.
Point six-Part of a reporting system should include a way to give negative feedback. Staff should look into any examples where negative feedback is on file.
Point seven- Your choice as I have no opinion. Edited on Feb 07, 2019, 09:49am

02-07-19  03:21am - 2145 days #465
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Exactly what happens when management sends the wrong signals.

02-06-19  08:22pm - 2145 days #463
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Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


Hey guys!

We have the winners for this weeks raffle! Exciting stuff!

1. Cybertoad
2. Rearadmiral
3. mbaya
Congratulations!

Cybertoad proved he was a real Shakespeare with his Met Art review - thank you very much!

Rearadmiral coming in strong with his fantastis B Skow review

Shout out to mbaya for his poetry on the Pretty Dirty Review

Thank you all once again and see you next week!

Edit: Sorry, we had to move dracken out of the raffle due to rule 2 . Apologies for the inconveniences and hope to see you back here next week


On your first drawing you established a precedent for withdrawing a raffle winning because you made a mistake by not following the rules.

02-06-19  12:38pm - 2146 days #458
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[QUOTE=FreddieAdmin]
Yes because I already announced it and I don't want to set the precedence of going back and changing the results. I can promise it won't happen again, though.

Not an adequate answer.

02-06-19  12:31pm - 2146 days #456
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What does noted mean?

Are you still sending out the winnings or not?

02-06-19  12:29pm - 2146 days #454
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Don't reward the shill.

02-06-19  12:22pm - 2146 days #452
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I blame you as you are the one who is responsible. Your intentions were never the issue.

I will be back periodically to check to see if you have gone yet.

02-06-19  12:09pm - 2146 days #449
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Freddie,

I think that I will get myself a new id and then make useless five minute reviews. Why should I spend hours making better ones?

You should not send a prize to a shill this week or any week. You have a chance to correct a mistake and you made your choice. You have a hard time admitting you are in error and then acting to rectify the situation.

After you are gone, I may yet post reviews. But, for now my participation has ended, as well as my respect for you.

02-05-19  01:34pm - 2147 days #442
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Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


Hey guys!

Always appreciate the feedback. Still learning the rules and ropes here, so always appreciate learning more!

As a general rule, we always lean towards inclusivity. I aimed to give a shoutout to a new member in order to promote more engagement, more dialogue between members. My goal is to attract more members, more reviews and more fun. By spotlighting new members and new reviews, I hope for them to return and post new stuff.

In a similar vein, we are looking to implement new initiatives. This is why I asked a while back feedback on the new idea of putting the prize for third place as a new membership instead of the $50.

I, and everyone here at PornUsers, appreciate and adore all the hard work you guys are putting in. I read all the reviews and am astounding by the indepth research, passion and love you guys put into it. You guys are the lifeblood of the forum.

In the future, I'll be reviewing the rules and the reviews more carefully. If you guys feel like making a blogpost of all your concerns, feel free - like I said, I always appreciate the feedback so it's good to know what you guys feel


Part of being a leader is to admit when you are wrong and then correcting your mistakes.

Several weeks ago I told you that there was a rule about members winning in two consecutive raffles. Your response was to laugh me off. You could not say that you missed the rule, you said it was suspended retroactively. I was very insulted and put my account on hold.

You did not even notice or care.

Now you say you need time to learn the rules. You could try reading them. it takes less than five minutes.

02-05-19  11:23am - 2147 days #437
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[QUOTE=Cybertoad]
Winning member Joined two day in, short review, reviews a site with no reviews, then two new users give a review on the same site. And being trusts are disabled to give others a warning, this really sets a precedence for abuse. Not too mention, really both new reviews were only 30 minutes apart, by two members, that just joined and they win. Who over sees these things ??



I wonder about the future of PU. The site needs hands on management that acts with maturity and integrity.

02-05-19  10:58am - 2147 days #435
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I don't have to win, I understand how this works.
Thanks Cyber.

Recently I disabled my account because the rules were suspended to have a member win in two consecutive drawings.
This not right.

02-05-19  10:31am - 2147 days #433
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A review that should have earned zero points should not ever win anything. Sorry. Ban me if you want but this is a shameful disgrace.

The raffle rules explain how much content is needed for a one point review. This has close to zero information and only 97 words of content. The raffle rules state 150 words minimum. This review says almost nothing and may even be written by a shill.

Are there rules any longer? Apparently not. Edited on Feb 05, 2019, 10:49am

01-10-19  12:14pm - 2173 days #413
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I like the idea of a free membership and that topic has come up in the past.

I am not so sure that will generate diversity in reviews of sites to any great degree. Giving away memberships at the end of last year created a lot of reviews, but many were of the same sites as they are part of Adult Time.

Do the third prize free memberships have to be used on sites listed on PU? I would go back and rejoin Premium Bukkake, but it is not listed any longer.

12-15-18  09:04am - 2199 days #331
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Premium Bukkake. They are still accepting memberships.

12-11-18  04:16pm - 2203 days #10
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Originally Posted by dracken:


Got a similar membership via 21Naturals, but with a few less sites (evil angel is missing for example). I wonder what determines what sites you'll get.

This is a completely different ball game


I logged into Evil Angel on their site, not on Adult Time and got in. Mailkstarks tried that and did not get in.

12-10-18  02:35pm - 2204 days #324
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Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


Thank you for the warm welcome!

We've been in touch with Adult Time and they're currently in beta and are waiting to launch next summer so we'll be reviewing it then - keep an eye out for it!

Can we get some basic information now?
It is not easy to decipher what the rules are for access.

12-10-18  01:11pm - 2204 days #321
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Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


Hey guys! New admin here, Freddie!

We're still here - definitely not ignoring you guys 😄 Thank you so much for contributing to all the threads. You guys are the life and soul of this forum.

A warm welcome. Can Adult Time get a listing? It would be great to get answers as to how it works!

12-09-18  08:48am - 2205 days #7
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Problem solved. My membership to 21sextury got me into Adult Time.

12-09-18  04:57am - 2205 days #4
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It was under my user profile at Adult Time. I think that AT should have its own listing here at PU.

12-09-18  04:55am - 2205 days #3
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It was under my users profile. I think that Adult Time should have its own listing here at PU.

12-09-18  12:43am - 2205 days Original Post - #1
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I have not noticed pre checked cross sells and got stuck with charges that were difficult to dispute.

When I see them I mention them in my reviews as a negative. I think we all should.

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Yujin, This is obvious spam and should be deleted.

10-26-18  12:42pm - 2249 days #4
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Originally Posted by yujin:


Hahaha, I'd say you have to talk to Mike C. He's 'the guy that knows a guy' around here


I am waiting to correspond with Mike C for several days.

10-25-18  09:52am - 2250 days #371
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Thanks Yujin it is much appreciated. Have you asked Mike to contact me?

10-22-18  04:26pm - 2253 days #24
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


@mbaya,

Did you get a recent email from Mike with your login details?

If yes, the login details should be shown clearly.
username: password:

If not, email Mike for the login details (using your confirming email).

I got an email today (found it in my spam folder) with the login details shown clearly.

Hope this helps.


Of course I got it as that is what I said. The site tells me that it already is in use, but not by me.

10-22-18  01:13pm - 2253 days #22
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My log in does not work. Mike?

10-21-18  08:16am - 2254 days #16
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Hi Mike,
Thank you for the log in information. However, it does not let me into the site. Please advise.

10-21-18  05:33am - 2254 days #15
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I see a list of addresses on the mailing list for the current winners.
Some of these names are probably aliases.
Will PU staff investigate further, to see if any are wanted?

And if yes, these names should reply to the email they should have gotten, to claim their free membership.

rearadmiral
mbaya
marcdc1

Check your email for the subject:
Re: RabbitsReviews/TheBestPorn - Membership Giveaway2

Email sent by:
Michael

My congrats to the winners.
(You need to reply to the email you got, with your top 5 picks, to claim a membership.)


I would be interested in Team Skeet, Shoplyfter, 21 Sextury, Fantasy Massage and then Mr. Skin. Thanks

09-18-18  07:20pm - 2287 days #4
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I have to add that I was hoping to see new names among the winners.
New blood can help PU grow into the future!

09-15-18  12:41pm - 2290 days #15
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Any news yet?

09-01-18  03:12pm - 2304 days #12
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Originally Posted by MikeC:


Hi all,

It's been a minute since I last posted to the boards. I wanted to send along a proper notification discussing the the 15th Anniversaries of RabbitsReviews.com, TheBestPorn.com and, by extension, PornUsers.com

To celebrate, we're doing a number of things to show thanks for all of these wonderful years. The big thing is we're giving away memberships.

https://www.thebestporn.com/announcements.html#89

What Can I Win?
Some of the prizes we’re giving away include free year-long memberships to:
Brazzers
Team Skeet
Reality Kings
Digital Playground
Pure Taboo
21 Sextury
Twistys
PornDoe Premium
Puffy Network
BaDoink VR
Tokens for Chaturbate
Plus many more!

How Do I Enter?
Entering our contest is incredibly easy! All you have to do is register for an account on PornUsers.com (our message boards) before Sunday, August 26, 2018. Already have an account with us? Even better. Just sign in before that date. Really, it’s that simple.

When are Winners Notified?
Winners will be announced on Tuesday, August 28, 2018. So, keep a close eye on TheBestPorn to see if you’ve won!

We are using this giveaway as an opportunity for a membership drive and get more registrations to PornUsers.com. We are also working with an outside company to coordinate an ad campaign over the next couple weeks to bring as many eyeballs as possible to RabbitsReviews and PornUsers

If you guys have any questions, feel free to leave them here.

Were the winners announced?

08-26-18  06:18pm - 2310 days #12
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


That sums up what most reviews should be.
Except that some reviewers, like mbaya, for example, can make their reviews not just complete, but easy to read, and with good details that give the flavor of the site.
Some reviews are not just instructive, but a pleasure to read.
(I can't write reviews like that: it takes talent, plus time and patience to write them.)

Even though we don't or can't write gem-like reviews, I think a lot of reviews are instructive, giving the reader a general idea of the pros, cons, and bottom line (see how easily I remember the basic form of the review--I think my mind is slipping down the slope of old age).
LOL.


Thanks for the compliment. You made my day!

08-21-18  05:48pm - 2315 days #303
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Dadcrush is listed on Rabbits, with a discount, and not on PU.

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