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09-16-08  01:59pm - 5941 days #6
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The only time I use "negative trust" is when I have the feeling that a first time reviewer might be connected to the site because he is so effusive in his praise (99 - 100) in a a very sketchy review.

Because I received a negative trust rating on my very first review I've been careful about handing them out. The review pretty well must shout "shill" before I give one nowadays.

09-16-08  01:39pm - 5941 days #9
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To Drooler:

I knew the title of this thread would catch someone's eye! :-)

09-16-08  10:59am - 5941 days #27
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Originally Posted by pat362:


The only one I've ever been a member is Strapon Lesbian but their videos are not in HD, at least they weren't the last time I was there. I am thinking of joining either Lez Cuties or something similar. Most of my lebien porn is from DVD's.



Thanks, Pat. I got some lesbian porn from video box but the quality wasn't great so I was hoping an HD rich site existed somewhere!

09-16-08  10:55am - 5941 days #15
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Originally Posted by Khan:


Actually, I'm pretty sure the laws were recently (w/in the last few years) changed to make it illegal to portray a model as being under age.


Thanks, Khan. I thought I read that somewhere!

09-16-08  10:49am - 5941 days #14
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Not that I'm an expert but I've never heard of a law about
pretending to be underage. If it exist, then I've never read a single article or seen a TV report on someone being accused of this crime. I've never had any problems bringing movies into Canada, and most if not all of the material available here is the same as in the US.


Thanks, I remember vaguely reading about the subject of pretending to be underage somewhere but wasn't quite sure if my memory served me right. As to bringing material across the border it wasn't always so. Twenty-five years ago it was almost impossible to get any porn through the mail and if you wanted to bring it across in your car, customs officials were very eager to confiscate it so they could add it to their stash. :-) Times changed for the better with the borderless Internet.

09-15-08  08:21am - 5942 days #3
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I'm not quite certain about this but I think in Canada it is even illegal to pretend to be underage when it comes to porn. Maybe our other Canadian PU might know more about this.

09-15-08  08:12am - 5942 days #6
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mr. smut wrote:

"I think it's more than polite to not come up with a sentence like "xyz is ugly as hell I don't want to see her again!". I know that some porn addicts act like that" :-(


That would have been a polite statement in the two review sites I visited. Because I'm a porn user with class, I can't repeat what they wrote! :-)

09-15-08  08:07am - 5942 days #5
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Wow! You found another review site that would say something negative about a site they were reviewing? That's an achievement in itself. The ones that I have looked at all seem like they are just trying to earn the referral dollars by saying nice things about every site they review.


Both review sites (forgot their names already) actually gave the mature site I was interested in an 8.5 out of 10 but their description of the older models (and certain parts of their body) was disgusting. The reviewers must be very young.

I know that when I was 18 a woman of 30 looked old to me and a woman of 50 would have looked absolutely ancient .. but why use highly offensive terms about this age group in a review if that's the niche of the site?

09-14-08  06:24pm - 5943 days #21
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


this, frankly, is the one thing that puts FTVGirls over the others in its genre...real babes in real situations with normal attire. Yes they get into fisting, lots of toys, etc., but the tease stuff with a peek at PTA* is really fun.

*Pussy, Tits and Ass.


I agree. My only problem with FTV is the fact that the older material is not very good in quality and I'm almost through with the newer stuff (HD at 8000 or wmv at 2000 bitrate). But I'll definitely return to the site after I give them enough time to acquire more updates that will make it worth my while.

09-14-08  06:17pm - 5943 days #20
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Here is another thing that a modern filmaker could add in his movies to get tons of customers. I'm stuck at having to look at porn that's nearly 20yrs old to get that, or lesbian material. Why is it that most lesbian porn still involves a scenario, kissing, undressing, foreplay, and plausible sex??? Mindf you I love lesbian porn, so I'm not complaining. I just wish that straight porn would have that as well.


What, in your opinion, is the best site in lesbian porn where the videos are in HD, or very close to it in quality?

09-14-08  03:50pm - 5943 days Original Post - #1
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I had a look at other porn review sites and after that one look am glad we have TBP and PU. :-)

One thing that really annoyed me about some of their reviews was that they were so contemptuous of older women, calling them absolutely disgusting names that I don't care to repeat.

This is something I've never experienced on these two sites of ours. Some young 'uns may be turned off by wrinkles but they are tactful and restrained in their comments and reviews, realizing there are all kinds of Porn Users of all ages, so three cheers for us!

09-14-08  03:39pm - 5943 days #16
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I agree that they offer more tease. The problem is that for the most part the girls usually wear tramp clothes, and the tease is pretty short. I want to see the girls wear a nice sexy dress or some nice pants and underwear (Commando style is not a turn on). I want the girl to slowly undress on the screen. You can't tease us with a girl wearing clothes in one scene and the next she's naked.


I absolutely, completely agree!!! That's what I keep looking for and never seem to find.

09-13-08  01:52pm - 5944 days #13
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I never did mention my biggest turn on, and that is to see a girl undress slowly, with lots of "intimate apparel" to get rid off. That's with pictures.

In videos, my biggest turn on is a) to have a lead-in story followed by b) a girl undressing slowly with lots of "intimate apparel" to get rid off before the main action starts. :-)

09-13-08  01:46pm - 5944 days #12
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


It's so true about porn movies. It's not as true as it was before Zero Tolerance, Jules Jordan and Third Degree brought back extended tease sequences, but for a while you would see a hot girl come out in a hot outfit and within 15 seconds, all you would be seeing was her vagina. I'd be screaming "This could be anybody you morons! I want to see this woman!"


My sentiments exactly, PinkPanther!

09-13-08  01:44pm - 5944 days #11
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Originally Posted by pat362:


Our discussion on eating lunch made me think of a major turn off. Whenever the girl is chewing gum. Is there anything less sexy than a naked girl chewing gum during sex.


You are so right! To me the chewing of gum is an obvious sign of indifference on the model's part to what she's doing. We all know it's mostly for the money (forgetting some exhibitionist amateurs) but couldn't the girl try to look a bit more enthused if that's the living she chose?

09-12-08  09:20am - 5945 days #7
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Originally Posted by pat362:


It's a big turn off for me as well this unconceivable need to concentrate on only one body part at the expense of the rest, or to zoom so close that you can give the model a clean bill of health.

Are there no professional photographers left or is it just that every guy with a camera thinks he can take pictures?

A major turn off is something similar happening in videos these days. The need for directors to concentrate on a specifc section at the expense of everything else or to keep on zooming to the genitals. I believe that it's the same thing that's happening to pictures. Now everybody that has a video camera thinks he's a director. Hell these people couldn't direct traffic let a lona a porn movie.


Maybe they are zooming in on the genitals because the model is reading a book or having her lunch while making some enthusiastic noises just to keep us fooled. :-)

09-11-08  03:01pm - 5946 days #28
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:



A common theme that I've seen repeated is that the Porn Users community is one of an ever present self depreciating tone that disinclines users to state their opinions loudly with the exception of a numeric score. An oft heard comment is "everybody has their own tastes". Truth be told, a good reviewer needs to be a confident, self-righteous bastard that will stand up and say "I'm right, I know what is right and this is what I think." Most of our users are too polite to do that.


Thanks, Toadsith, for giving me a well-deserved (if unintentional) kick in the pants because that's exactly what I tend to do. I'm so afraid that my review might cost someone $29.95 that I tend to come across almost apologetic for liking things that a younger generation (the majority) seems to dislike, and it shows in some of my reviews. PU watch out, self-righteous and confident it will be from now on. :-)

So, for me, your post made the thread indeed worthwhile.

09-10-08  09:45am - 5947 days #14
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


I had a problem with Sea Monkey on here as well, about 2 months ago, it would sign me in, but it would leave off the sidebar on the right of the site that has "Home Page", "Browse Sites" and the others, it was completely gone. It didn't hit me at first, until I started to look for a site. I tried just now with Sea Monkey, and everything is fine, if someone mentioned this, look over it, could it be the build of Sea Monkey? Every time I open it, there is a new build available. I hadn't been using it much lately.

I have downloaded Chrome, but only tried it a few times yesterday, I like what I see of it so far. And the other, I really like Flock, it is a variation of Firefox, and so far, I have had no problems at all from it.


Hey, exotics4me, I'm a collector of free software as well. :-) I must go and try your "Flock," thanks for the tip.

09-10-08  09:41am - 5947 days #7
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Williamj, I won a raffle after about twelve reviews, so that shoots your theory down. You manage to question the reviewers' integrity as well as that of the PU staff. As for me, I like to review sites and wouldn't care if I ever won anything. If I can steer anyone away from a horrible site and help them save their money, that's reward enough. I think the overwhelming majority of reviewers do it either because they want to share their enthusiasm for a site with others or because they want to clue them in on some of the pitfalls when it comes to Internet Porn sites.

09-09-08  11:01am - 5948 days #64
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


You can browse stock.xchng without logging in, you just can't get the full resolution images without it. However, since our avatars can only be 100 x 100 pixels max, that shouldn't be a problem.


That's strange, I tried to browse but the link didn't work. Of course, it's also possible that I took a high lighted word for a link :-) and didn't look far enough. Back to stock.xchng. Thanks!!

09-09-08  10:55am - 5948 days #11
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


I'm pretty sure the "Incognito Browsing" feature on Google Chrome will achieve that function for you. I just like how fast and cleanly designed the browser is. It loads pages considerably faster than Firefox.

As for password encryption - I don't know how encrypted Firefox is on that - Chrome pulled the passwords direct from Firefox without even asking directly (it said something like, Get settings from Firefox?). It is partly based off of Mozilla's code as well as other open source code, so that might be why.


To me, it looked too clean, Toadsith. :-) When they asked me why I was uninstalling I mentioned the lack of a menu bar as one of the reasons, the other was the lack of a master password. Another reason was the inability to tweak things to meet one's own tastes, e.g. I don't like underlined links but found no way to adjust that. As to the transfer of passwords from Firefox, I think that they transferred the urls of the password using sites but not the passwords themselves. Maybe it's because I am using a Master Password in Firefox.

09-09-08  10:04am - 5948 days #62
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


The avatar can be pretty much any picture you want - the restrictions are listed pretty plainly, but I'll repeat them here:

File Formats: .gif, .jpg, or .png
Max. File Size: 15 Kilobytes
Min. Dimensions: 50 x 50 pixels
Max. Dimensions: 100 x 100 pixels
NO Hardcore Content: Boobs are ok, genitals are not.
NO Illegal Content: no child porn, bestiality and other illegal material.
NO Animated Avatars: considered too distracting
Warning: Copyrighted material may be removed if requested by the copyright holder.

In the case of the file format, I personally used a .png file so I could have a transparent background that wouldn't clash with the two possible background colors (white and the normal beige-ish color. Gif can also do transparent backgrounds, but can only support 256 colors, as opposed to 24-bit color capable with .png and .jpg. JPEG (.jpg) cannot support transparent backgrounds.

The content of the avatar can be just about anything - most people have gathered an image or compilation of images via Google Images. If you are worried about Copyright issues, try some of the free stock images sites - my favorite is stock.xchng out of Hungary. Or you could just photograph or draw your own.


Thanks, toadsith, I went to stock.xchng but they want way too many personal details before they let you look at the pictures, so that one is out. I'm going to have a look through my personal pix and see if I can use something from there. Or, better yet, maybe I'll try the Google Images way.

09-09-08  09:43am - 5948 days #2
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Are some models getting too old ?

I was a member over at video box and was surprised at some of the models, that were not milf's just getting a tad ratty compred to their hay day.

Jill Kelly hold her own well ( wish shed hold mine)
and seem the exception of the aging porn queeen.


SO.. who do you think should hang up the Dildo and get a day job?


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I wish more of the models in the videos offered by Video Box were turning a "tad ratty." I am not looking for older porn stars because once they've been in the business about 20 years I tend to get tired looking at them. I'm looking for more older women, closer to my age and that is a niche that's almost empty. I wish I could give you a name as to who should hang up the Dildo, but I never had a thing for "stars" so I don't know too many by their names. There's an older blonde that seems to be in half of the MILF movies, I know I'd be happy to see her retire .. nothing personal, some faces just become too familiar.

Added later: just remembered the name: Nina Hartley (sp?) Edited on Sep 09, 2008, 11:06am

09-08-08  01:39pm - 5949 days #57
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Hey guys and Lady J, I am still avatarless after all this time. What's a good site to pick one up. I tried to google one but didn't find anything under their listed sites that suited me. Chances are somebody listed a url somewhere in this conversation already but there are so many posts I don't want to read through them all. :-)

09-08-08  01:13pm - 5949 days #9
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


I'm not familiar with Sea Monkey, but I wanted to point out on a positive note that Google Chrome Beta works fine with this site. :-)


That's another one I installed yesterday. Yep, as I said, I love trying out new stuff, especially if it's free. But I uninstalled it immediately after I found out that I couldn't use a master password, or eliminate all traces of my web activities when leaving the browser, yet keep my passwords (which are encrypted and protected in Firefox).

It's the same reason I don't use Internet Explorer, no matter how often they improve it. Until they come out with private browsing that leaves my passwords alone (and encrypted) I'm not using it. I realize there are plug-ins, I just like the feeling I get from Firefox that when I close the browser the history is wiped out, the cookies are destroyed, and by using a master password I can protect stuff that I'd rather keep private.

09-08-08  01:05pm - 5949 days #8
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Originally Posted by Kevin:


Hey messmer,

I downloaded Sea Monkey and tried to recreate this problem you were mentioning. It seemed to work fine for my, logged in right the first time without having to refresh to another page.

Does anyone else have Sea Monkey and can confirm this problem?


Thanks for trying, Kevin. I re-inserted my usual password and user name three times, just in case I had made a mistake, and Sea-Monkey still wouldn't log in properly. I'm going to blame everything on Vista again. Can't go wrong there! :-)

09-08-08  07:43am - 5949 days #4
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Originally Posted by Khan:


If you continue to have problems, you're welcome to send an email to "technical [at] pornusers [dot] com" with the specifics and we'll see what we can figure out.

For now, based on your last massage, I'll assume your problem is resolved.


Thanks, Khan. And, yes, my problem has been resolved, permanently, because I uninstalled Sea-Monkey. It was my compulsive need to try the unfamiliar that made me install it in the first place. It was okay but Firefox has done me no wrong, so I've returned to it! :-)

09-07-08  05:16pm - 5950 days #2
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Forget the above. Sea Monkey seems to be a bit quirky. When I try to sign in all I get is "Welcome guest," no: "you are logged in as messmer." However, the moment I start moving around in the site the top shows that I'm logged in.

09-07-08  03:56pm - 5950 days Original Post - #1
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I thought I'd throw this out to the members rather than ask Khan because it's probably a browser problem but Firefox and Internet Explorer let me in with my usual user name and password but Sea Monkey won't. I just installed it to try it out but can't get into PU.

09-06-08  02:37pm - 5951 days #10
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Thanks, toadsith and atrapat I think atrapat nails it with his observation of Windows (in my case Vista) making mistakes. That is the most likely explanation because I've tried the sample video off-line and it doesn't attempt to link to any streaming site and works perfectly with modem in sleep mode. I also find that while I would get the duration of a wmv video listed when I still used Windows xp I no longer get it with Vista. So let's blame Vista and Microsoft. Thanks, guys!

09-05-08  01:15pm - 5952 days #7
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


There is something seriously wrong with that number. Is it some sort of link to a string? If you said 472 MB it would believable. Where did you get this video from?


I forgot to mention that this low number only shows up on avi and rm files, badandy.

09-05-08  06:54am - 5952 days #5
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


192 is likely the audio bitrate. Make sure that is not what it is. How big is the actual file and how long is the video? If it is the video bitrate that would mean that a 10 minute video would be 14.4 MB. 192 is a typical bit rate for MP3s and other audio files, a video with that bitrate would be practically unwatchable.


The video I picked at random this morning is 472.011 KB in size and about 55 minutes in length with a bitrate around 380, badandy.

09-04-08  06:00pm - 5953 days #3
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


It really depends on how it is shot and how it is filtered and compressed. That really is all there is to it. It is kinda like comparing a barrel of gun powder to a small nuke. They are the same size, but because someone put better stuff into the nuke it is significantly stronger. So you are correct about a 2 MBit video looking better or worse depending on where you get it.

When something is compressed they are basically removing information from the picture, ideally it is information that is not needed for the picture to maintain quality. If the visible light spectrum is between 400 and 700 nanometers than data on "light" at 780 nanometers is worthless to us humans, therefore it should be removed. Since not every bit of data goes into making a visible picture it depends on how much of that inert data is removed. Someone good can remove enough to make a 2 MBit video look as good as someone else's 3 MBit video for example.

Then there is the matter of filtering. Filtering videos correctly can yield a nicer picture by removing "noise" from the video.

I am not an expert on any of this, so if someone has a better explanation please provide it! Basically what it comes down to is how much money someone is willing to spend on creating the picture and how much effort they are will to put forth.


Thanks a lot, badandy, that explains a lot about the differences between videos who are superficially of the same quality, 2000 kbps. I am still curious about the avi video. Why such a dramatic difference and how can the picture be crystal clear at 192 kbps? Any idea?

09-04-08  01:56pm - 5953 days Original Post - #1
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How come an HD video in wmv can be at 8000 kbps while an avi video also in HD can show a bitrate of only 192 kbps. And why can some wmv files weighing in at 2000 kbps look like crap while other wmv files with the same bitrate look like HD? I am baffled and am looking for a layman's answer as to the function of a bitrate. I think someone in this group took on the impossible task of enlightening me a couple of months ago and it didn't take .. but maybe if someone else kept it real simple. Thanks! :-)

09-03-08  07:51am - 5954 days #21
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Maybe I'm a childish over-50 guy, but tattoos aren't an automatic turn-off for me - one of my all-time fave strip club babes had tattoos like crazy - fun ones like pin-up girls and things - and the combination of the artistic tats and her kittenish personality - ooo la la!!

And thongs - hot! Fake boobs are so common that they're not an automatic turn-off if they fit the bod, but you can't do better than great naturals - Katie Fey and Amy Reid are two of the hottest women alive as far as I'm concerned.

Shaved vs bush? Well, considering that ALS Scan is my favorite site, I'm clearly not against shaved. Bushes can be quite nice, as with Japanese women in their porn, but with women in their 20's or older, I prefer a trimmed pubic area - no designs, please - with shaved lips.

Full satin panties do nothing for me. Full hosiery even less.

So does age dictate tastes? Ehh, don't really think so.



You are the proverbial exception to the rule, Pink Panther. Maybe there is also a bit of a misunderstanding. When I talk about hair and bush I do include trimmed. It's the reaction to any hair at all by the young 'uns (see remarks in Video Box) that's the baffler. And if by "full hosiery" you mean pantyhose, I'm with you all the way.

09-02-08  02:30pm - 5955 days #17
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


In regards to finding proper natural women on Video Box - while they don't have a "hairy" category, their "Classic" section is pretty large now and I'd say about half the classic movies contain both plot and some (if not all) models with trimmed or natural pubic hair.

As for the main topic - I'm sure if you group us users in age categories you'll find a definite statistical trend of preference towards specific porn categories. Of course, as always with Statistics, it is good at telling you things only about a group. It is useless with individuals. I, for example, have a very eclectic taste in porn - varying from softcore photography to bondage and extreme S&M themes. However, if I were to pick my absolute favorite porn, it would almost certainly hail from the 1970's. Also, my listed age is accurate - if I recall correctly it is required to retrieve our forgotten password (if ever forgotten) so I wasn't remotely inclined to lie.


You are right, of course, Toadsith, I forgot about their classics section. I remember watching and enjoying "Deep Throat" wishing they made the same kind of video in 2008 and in HD.

Because I seem to have a lingerie fetish my favorite porn would be solo women or g/g, age 30 - 50, dressed in 60s, 70s, 80s undies! No thongs or pantyhose, please. :-)

I found a very good site recently but they never get completely undressed in that one so that's no good to me. I like to see the progression from completely dressed to completely nude with a bit of lewdness thrown in at the end. Come to think of it, this might mean that my "fetish" isn't full-blown otherwise I would only be interested in the lingerie! :-) Yay, there's hope! I'm normal after all .. or maybe not!

BTW, good to see you again, you've been goofing off too often lately!

09-02-08  11:38am - 5955 days #15
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Originally Posted by Toadmix:


Good topic and I never thought of looking at it that way. But if I look at my own reviews, sites that reflect my age ( mid 40's) also reflect 80's early 90's porn and what was norm. Remember seeing Anna Nicole when I first had playboy on cable back in the late 80's and there was a light bush but none the less it was. Looking more today there is not so much the norm. True.... I was in the reviews poking around at VIDEOBOX, and saw many going yuk to a nice manicured bush saying ewww why isn't it shaven? I was like why shave it, its nice. I felt like I was in the twilight zone.
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I kept shaking my head in the same place (Video Box), to the same remarks re. bush. How could, within one decade, tastes change so much that something that was considered to be erotic throughout history all of a sudden become "yuk?"

I think I found about three videos on that site that featured models au naturel, the rest were shaved.

I'm getting used to the shaved look but can't understand the revulsion shown by younger PUs. It's a puzzling phenomenon. Same as I'll never understand their desire to get right to the action and skip the "boring" introductory parts. Without context doesn't a video just become three or four basic scenes of raw sexuality (bj, anal, dp etc.) endlessly repeated? Edited on Sep 02, 2008, 11:43am

09-02-08  08:02am - 5955 days #13
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Originally Posted by Khan:


Wasn't trying to discourage the discussion. Was simply pointing out the profile field for those that might not remember its there.

as far as your discussion ...
A psychologist friend of mine once told me *most* people are drawn to the type of erotica (porn) that they enjoyed when they were young. He said while people's tastes would develop some, for the most part, they'd most enjoy the same kind of stuff they did when they first started exploring their sexuality.


Exactly, re. being drawn to the type of erotica one enjoyed in the past. Too bad so few sites recognize the potential when it comes to catering to different generations. It's not only the young that have the money for porn. And it's not only the erotica .. it's also the memories.

09-02-08  06:43am - 5955 days #11
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Originally Posted by Khan:


I don't know if it's occurred to anyone but age is one of the fields in the user profiles. Though, personally I suspect many user are less than honest about theirs (thought I can't imagine why). But, if they'll lie there they'll lie if they include the info in a review as well.

The point of all this being, if the user chooses to make their age known (to aid others in evaluating thier remarks), then PU already has a vehicle in place for that.


You're right, Khan. The vehicle is already in place and I even use it on occasion when it comes to the review of a site that looks promising. The article was written tongue- in-cheek to express discontent about how many porn users seem to be happy with the "bare bones" of sex, and to promote a bit of a discussion about the present state of the industry. I am glad to see that some of our users in this forum are already doing that, expressing the same frustrations and yearnings I do. I keep waiting for some smart entrepreneur to come up with a retro-site once they realize that there is a market for it. Not real retro with its faded, yellowed pictures etc. but a site imitating in story line, in development, in the teasing factor, in manner of dress the porn of yesteryear.

09-01-08  07:44pm - 5956 days #7
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Age may be a factor, but I don't think it's "the" factor in a user's tastes. The polls and discussions here have shown that the majority of "users" prefer natural breasts, even if they're small, and dislike implants, piercings, and tatoos.

As for me, also past the big 5-0, it's the same. But I also prefer shaved pussies. I like to see them unobscured by the fabled bush, and the ones we see in porn and nude modeling are often very pretty! (Sometimes the ones in real life aren't as nice.)

And silky undies, yeah. Can't go wrong with that.


There you go, the lack of silky undies, Drooler! That's what I really miss. The models whip off their tops and no bras, then unzip their denim shorts and show the world that they prefer to go commando! Sigh! Where's the suspense, where's the mystery? :-) And it is a hopeful sign that so many of our members prefer natural breasts .. could that be a trend? I seem to be seeing less silicone lately.

09-01-08  07:34pm - 5956 days #6
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I agree that our taste change with time. I think that it's even truer, where porn is concerned. If you are over 40, then you remember a time where bush was not the name of a President, Whore was a profession and not something you called a female performer, blowjobs were for getting the guy hard and not just so we can hear slobering and see drooling, fake breast were found only on inflatable dolls, dialogue was part of all movies, 35mm was the standard for filming movies, and I'm sure you can add to the list.

The fact of the matter is that most if not all of these things no longer exist, except from movies before the mid 80's. I actually believe there is an untapped market for that kind of porn.

The age thing isn't really important to me, because there are many reviewers whom I trust, but that doesn't mean that their porn likes are the same as mine. I look at their other reviews, and if I find that they have similar porn interest to mine, then I'm more likely to enjoy their choice. Their age is never an issue.


LOL. You put it well re. past vs. present tastes! And I, too, believe there's an untapped market. I've been ready to subscribe to a new site and have a hard time finding one that meets my tastes. And, yes, I have found quite a few reviewers who mirrored my feelings on various subjects as well and trust them in their comments even if they are younger than I. Take the post as tongue-in-cheek with a bit of subconscious wistfulness making its way to the surface at the same time. It's that "untapped market" business!

09-01-08  07:20pm - 5956 days #5
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I agree with your statement as to an age gap. I am also over fifty and all that you say describes my taste as well. However, I don't think it is necessary or desireable to publish that information. We will always have individual tastes for reasons other than age. Just state your viewpoint and let the reader agree or disagree.


I can't really disagree with you, mbaya. The thread above was made tongue-in-cheek because I've been burned quite a few times lately when it comes to highly recommended sites. Twisty's especially comes to mind. I was initially enthused about the wealth to be found when I looked through the site and then got bored very quickly because there was a cookie cutter quality to it all. No excitement for anyone over forty, I shouldn't think. But, as I said, I'm just having a bit of fun with a subject (along with some wishful thinking).

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If advertisers are right in assuming that people of a certain demographic will basically have the same taste, even though those tastes may vary when it comes to small details, then maybe listing one's age in a review might be helpful.

This is the motivation for my post: I've responded on quite a few occasions to favorable reviews by trusted folks in PU only to find hours into a new subscription that the site totally leaves me cold.

I think the age gap should be taken into consideration in every review, possibly by the reviewer stating his age at the end of the review so that the various age groups could find a site that suits their age.

Age gap, you say? Porn is porn is porn! Not so, say I! :-)

I'm over fifty, for me pubic hair is the normal look not a fetish, thongs (as one of our members puts it, is it www?) are meant for feet, natural breasts are preferred, so is a body unblemished by piercings and tattoos. Slinky, silky underwear is greatly appreciated.

For those from 18 to, let's say, thirty-five the shaved look is natural, hair below is a turn off, big breasts even if false are greatly desirable, cotton and denim are in, thongs and pantyhose are droolable items of apparel etc. etc. I could find tons of other differences in taste if I stopped for a minute.

As usual one has to generalize to a certain extent and it might very well be that a twenty year old has tastes similar to mine while a fifty year old likes cotton and denim and thongs.

But, generally speaking, if someone wrote a review and I read "Age 47 or Age 21" on the bottom of his effort I feel I would be better guided when looking for a site. What do you think? Or would it be easier just to read my post and memorize my likes and dislikes and make a little notation: Not suitable for messmer! Aw, just kidding!!

08-23-08  03:54pm - 5965 days #10
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I can't say that I'm getting tired of my favorite models but, being a picture collector, I leave many of their sets on the site because I get bored with what they wear or with what they do in a particular set.

To me, a woman in order to be truly erotic, has to be sensuous, sensuously dressed and preferably in a bedroom environment. I don't download cotton or denim but when it comes to sheer nighties and panties and other good stuff like stockings and garter belts .. yum!! It's not only the girls but the girls plus packaging and as long as one of my favorite models throws me a lingerie bone now and then I remain her devoted fan! :-)

What I *do* get tired of is to see the same old sets used over and over on sites like Aunt Judie and Older Women: An Office Scene, a teacher in her classroom, a housewife ironing a shirt in the kitchen, a Gym scene, a bathroom scene .. etc. The sameness really gets boring, to the point where you no longer look at the model because the surroundings have become so ho-hum and the set of pictures so predictable.

08-13-08  11:07am - 5975 days #7
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Amazing! It seems all of us have quite a bit in common when it comes to dislikes .. like all things fake, from breasts to orgasms. Plus over sized tattoos, plus the doctoring of pictures with Photoshop etc. until the girls all start looking like Barbies (my constant complaint). So how come there are so many successful sites out there that specialize in "fakery" and why do so many of them get high ratings? Webmasters, pay attention, there is a potential huge market for the natural!

To answer wittyguy's question: I never, ever download a video or a set of pictures that contains fake breasts .. for me that is the worst offense of them all!

08-07-08  07:38am - 5981 days #3
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Originally Posted by ponchoo:


Videobox does recommendations and reviews, no public 'best of' lists, but they do have a 'Favorites' function that allows you to create your own lists for personal use.


You can also get a good idea which DVD or Scene is hot by clicking on: "sort by favorites."

07-28-08  12:29pm - 5991 days #8
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Amelie of ATK Natural and Hairy. She's not my favorite because I prefer mature but what a sweet smile on that
girl!

07-21-08  02:58pm - 5998 days #17
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Originally Posted by Khan:


Here's the problem we ran into ...

We went searching the site for their download limit information, and found comments inside the member area at http://www.digitaldesire.com/members/sta...c/support/zipped.php It states, in part: "
When a user downloads more than 1 gigabyte (1000mb) per 24 hour period. Our systems automatically block that user for 24 hours from being able to download video or zip file content. "

So ... regardless of what the WM tells us/you in a reply, as long as they list that limit on the site itself, that's what we have to show in the listing. When/if the webmaster makes the change on the site, they're welcome to notify us and we'll update the listing accordingly.

Hope that helps explain why what you see in our listing doesn't always match what the WM will tell you in a reply.


Thanks, Khan. In that case your staff is certainly following the right procedures in order to get their information and the webmaster is clearly wrong by not removing information that is either outdated or by providing false information. Other users yet have stated that they never ran into any limits which adds another probability: maybe they don't want to encourage their members to download too much at one time. In any case, thanks a million, I knew I could count on you to follow through!

07-21-08  02:49pm - 5998 days #5
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Haha - sorry for my absence :-) I generally don't check PU on the weekends due to other activities and as crazy as it seems, I've been sort of running out of things to say in the forum - perhaps I need to come up with some new topics myself, rather than sitting in the eves and waiting for a new thread in need of one of my typical e-novels. I'll admit I've been putting off doing reviews because they are so bloody time-consuming, but perhaps I'll set aside a few hours and put up one or two tonight. I'll try to chime in more readily - after all, I haven't broken 200 posts yet!


Yayyyy! Glad to see you didn't take off in a snit, toadsith, because I really missed your posts. But you are right when it comes to running out of things to say .. I find myself starting to lag because we seem to have discussed everything under the sun already, either in a review or a remark or in the forum.

One thing I've noticed, compared to other forums we seem to be pretty civilized. I have yet to see a flame, which is truly amazing! Does porn take the edge off an angry, confrontational spirit, I wonder? Could porn be the cure to war? :-)

07-21-08  08:11am - 5998 days #14
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Originally Posted by IKnoPorn:


I was a member of this site several months ago, see my review which is linked in Denner's orginal post. I never encountered any download limit issue, and was not even aware of one. Where is the limit indicated on the site? I have a feeling I went over 2 GB per day on several occasions, and never had a problem. Is this limit new?

Anyway my review still stands, I gave them an 84. I agree that TBP review score of 91 is too high, however for fans of glamour content this site is pretty good. And right now they have a price of $18 which is an excellent deal for what you get, IMHO.

Also another fact: DRM is no longer used by the site.


The download limit of 2 Gigs a day is indicated by the webmaster himself in a reply to toadmix' review in April. See original remarks above. The 1 Gig limit is listed under the TBP reviews for the site near the bottom of the review.

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