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07-20-08  12:08pm - 6008 days #12
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Originally Posted by Khan:


I'm making the reviewers aware of this thread. Will pass on any remarks they share.


Thanks, Khan. Much appreciated.

07-20-08  09:18am - 6008 days Original Post - #1
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... I miss your input. Always enjoyed whatever contribution you made to any thread. Please nimble up that typing finger again before you are being surpassed as top poster.

07-19-08  06:07pm - 6008 days #10
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I just looked at DD and it's not there. I'd gotten the offer through an e-mail from them. Sorry. I'd just forgotten that. It's for new members as well as returning ones:

"We're offering a special $18 monthly price to all new and returning members that join directly through this mailer. This! is an amazing price compared with our regular $30/month. Simply follow this link and sign up while this offer is available:

http://www.digitaldesire.com/?nats=NzQwOToxODox
"

NB: This was dated June 17th, but it looks like it's still on. Once you click the link above, click on the top LEFT of the page (not the top right) to get the special offer price.



Thanks, Drooler. That explains it. I still wouldn't subscribe for the reasons mentioned above. 2 Gigs a day in this day and age is too little. I've subscribed to quite a few sites since last year, none of them had drm or download limits and I'm gonna keep it that way! :-)

07-19-08  02:04pm - 6009 days #2
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I find both Epoch and CCBill very reliable intermediaries. The trouble could be with the site, something Epoch has no control over. If they experience too many problems with a site like the one you describe they will drop it in order to preserve their good name. Edited on Jul 19, 2008, 06:11pm

07-19-08  01:57pm - 6009 days #8
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Originally Posted by plan b:


Even still... 2 gigs?? I can do that in half an hour if their servers are fast enough. Your reasons still stand.


I agree, one hundred percent! Just pointing out another discrepancy.

07-19-08  10:45am - 6009 days #6
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Hi Drooler, where did you get the $18 per month subscription price from? TBP mentions a special discount for our members at $ 22.90 per month. Just curious.

07-19-08  09:51am - 6009 days #3
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Khan, if you're looking in, could you please get your reviewers to check their facts a bit more closely. I just got finished with my rant in connection with a 1 Gig a day download limit on DD when I came across the webmaster's reply to toadmix back in April proclaiming that the limit was 2 Gigs! That's the second time I am being embarrassed in connection with inaccurate information picked up straight in TBP. Thanks.

07-19-08  09:28am - 6009 days #2
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Originally Posted by Denner:


Friends at TBP and PU....

TBP has today a/another new review for Digital Desire.
But, - I do not get it..
Here at TBP we get a new 91.6 average-score of this site.
What's new - compared to the earlier score at TBP?
That I cannot find either.
Please help me out here, TBP and PU: I'd not like to think, that TBP has economic interests in DD - though I'm not blind for the fact that TBP has to exist someway - moneywise...
But a 91.6 for this site and: why a new review now. Nothing has changed in real life here.
And the "Vanessa-rewiev" at 94 and the words: "You'd be crazy not to join"...
Honestly, folks! This site is JUST average - maybe less...



Only three general comments because I have not, nor will I, subscribe to this site as it is set up at present. For reasons, see below:

a) no mixed site (photography and video) should ever have a 1 Gig a day download limit. You can download a fair (non Hi Resolution) amount of pics for that, but, if you are interested in their videos at all (especially since they offer a high quality option), that would push your frustration level to the boiling point because you'd constantly have to check how close you are to the limit. A 1 Gig download limit with today's vastly improved quality and therefore vastly increased file sizes is ludicrous.

b) there's no way I would subscribe to a site with either drm or a download limit or both ... period ... and

c) two dollars off the regular price ... wow! What a deal! :-)

P.S. Thank God for this forum. This is one of those posts that would be inappropriate anywhere else. :-) Edited on Jul 19, 2008, 10:40am

07-14-08  08:34am - 6014 days #12
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


I'm not a big fan of male cum. I much prefer seeing squirting when it's real, though it's not my favorite thing. The worst aspect of the need for the cum shots is when you have the porn babe waiting expectantly for a long time while the guy is flailing away trying to get it to shoot - hilariously bad and unfortunately common.

If I'm going to watch guy/girl porn, I'd much prefer that the guy spend his attention on the girl's bod, stroking, kissing, licking, squeezing, fucking, and then he ought to pull out and cum when he's ready to cum and not have to flail away making sure he hits the right spot on her face or tits.


I'm with you PinkPanther, you can see that tongue and open mouth get visibly tired as the model waits and waits and waits and then comes the climax as a trickle of sperm finds the left ear or cheek rather than the intended target.

07-14-08  08:23am - 6014 days #8
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


After reading the plausible deniability material, I am with you all the way. I'm a KISS kinda guy - Keep It Simple Stupid.


LOL. Simple always does it for me as well, as long as a given program does its basic job well. In any case, I don't have the sort of material that would make the FBI (RCMP in my case) want to expose me to lengthy grueling examination and arm twisting. I'm simply protecting myself from friendly underage family eyes and True Crypt does that superbly.

07-13-08  02:22pm - 6015 days #6
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


I checked out their site and will try it out after I read the beginner's tutorial.

I really like their "plausible deniability" method. Not only do they lock up your stuff, but they also provide explanations on how to deal with those doing forensics on your computer.


I didn't go their "plausible deniability" route because the simpler way of doing things serves my needs just fine. All right, all right .. I need to keep things simple! :-)

What I really like is that I no longer have to encrypt individual picture sets or videos. All I have to do is put them into my mounted drive .. as is .. and when I want to use them I don't have to worry about decrypting anything. When I'm done I simply turn off the external hard drive and no one who turns it on without my knowledge would ever know that there's anything on it. Just what the doctor ordered.

07-13-08  08:13am - 6015 days #4
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Best thing I ever did when it comes to privacy was to read someone's post where he recommended True Crypt. I installed it last week, encrypted my external drive, gave it a strong password and can now relax about prying eyes. It's a great program.

07-12-08  07:40pm - 6015 days #29
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Originally Posted by Pornjackker:


On tour pages I'd like to see more variety in the
photos representing the scenes. I get tired of only
seeing pics of just girls with cocks sticking out of
all their holes. Who's the guy in the scene? You can't
see his face and very little of his body. This is
totally acceptable for POV content but there are male
stars I like to watch and will factor into my decision
of whether or not I join. Not justthe the appeal of the
girl.


Hi Pornjacker, I was looking in on this dated thread because I remembered making a post here about over-sized logos and was trying to refresh my memory as to what I had written, when I came across your remarks.

I feel completely different about things when it comes to male porn stars. I am quite happy when their faces are kept out of a scene because it tends to ruin it for me. For one thing there are too few of them, for another, let's say you are looking at one of those videos called "I like to see my wife make out with other men," and the wimpish husband who longs to be cuckolded is a porn star you've seen dozens of times in other scenes???!! Happened to me only today on a video site and didn't exactly turn me on. I realize that most of the porn business is make believe but I find it galling when the "husband" is a well-known porn star and the scene is found under "amateurs."

Now if they had found themselves a real husband and wife who encouraged the porn star to do the dastardly deed, that would be a different matter. But porn star as husband under the category "amateur" ... naw!

But I digress, let me just say in connection with the point you made that in general the male "stars" aren't exactly picked for their beauty. Their only requirement is to stay hard .. so from the waist down is fine with me!

Actually, I'd like it even better if they disappeared from the scene altogether and we had nothing but g and g/g on the average site .. but that's me. I can always dream, can't I? <g>

07-12-08  09:43am - 6016 days #3
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The absolutely hottest scene I have ever come across was a lesbian scene between two models named Page and Rochelle on "Girls Out West." Rochelle's climax was the first one I had seen on a site that was totally believable and genuine. There might be others out there but I haven't come across them. You could see that Rochelle was highly aroused from the very beginning. The eyes usually give it away.

An aside to exotics4me, Viv Thomas used to be offered as a bonus site to "Suburban Amateurs" but I went there very seldom because his videos were streaming only. Too bad! I wonder if that has changed in the meantime?

07-06-08  07:56am - 6022 days #3
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It would be nice to see a bit more honesty when it comes to some of the reviews, Denner. You see first time "users" doing a very sketchy review of a site, giving it extremely high marks, and it does make you wonder. Don't know how it could be stopped, though. Hard to tell who's legitimate and who isn't. It could really be a first-timer being gushy about a new site he's discovered. So, buyer beware!

07-05-08  02:03pm - 6023 days #9
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Gee, I feel pornstarly challenged because I don't recognize a single name. Must be because I prefer amateurs at the pre-pornstar stage. Or ladies so mature that no one is interested in their names! :-)

07-01-08  12:32pm - 6027 days #4
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Strange how tastes differ. I, in my jaded world, believe that every body needs a bit of adornment in the form of lingerie to make it more alluring. Just plain nudes right from the start of a set would be a sure-fire way to keep me away from a site.

This is just a casual remark not meant to offend, horndog, because I do realize that it's different strokes for different folks and wish you luck in your search, just as I hope you will wish me luck in finding a site in which the model starts fully clothed until she's down to stockings and garter belt and nylon panties which are hopefully gone by the end of the set. Cotton and denim are outlawed in my dream site and oh, yes, the sets have to be in "landscape" format! :-)

And welcome to the forum, horndog, with the sincere wish that both of us will find what we are looking for.

06-23-08  12:42pm - 6035 days #5
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Originally Posted by Kevin:


I've made some changes, and I think it looks good in FF3 now. Please check it out and confirm!

Thanks.


I run Firefox 3 and Vista, just checked it out and things look fine now, Kevin.

06-05-08  09:47am - 6053 days #25
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


I gotta say - despite being in the age range you mentioned - I'm a bit perplexed by the shaved phenomena. I grew up with 80's porn - that was what was accessible to me. So trimmed or hairy was what was in vogue in the 80's and early 90's. Then it is as though a switch was flipped and now one has to go on a safari expedition to find hairy girls - especially if you want them to still have that professional model look.

I suppose that is one of the reasons I admire Eastern European models - they don't believe shaving is always a requirement for the job. Trimmed models are very common. I suppose it is all fashion. Hair ruled porn for a 100 years - but I hope it comes back again soon.


We appear to be on the same wavelength. I shall trust all your reviews implicitly from now on. ::smile::

06-04-08  06:30pm - 6053 days #22
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


ALS Scan appears to aim more for the natural bodied teens look - but if you are interested in the toys and lesbian aspect of the site - Simon Scans does a very similar thing. They feature a wider range of body types and do have hairy models as well - though they admit that they prefer shaved and usually try to get the model back for another shoot in shaved form. I apologize if this a repeat - I can't always remember to whom I've recommended what sites.


Thanks, Toadsith, I too can't remember everything that everyone told me or recommended. Or what I wrote and recommended! I've heard good things about Simon Scans, probably from you but haven't checked them out yet .. so here I go before I forget! As an aside, there is a definite age barrier when it comes to tastes in porn. Most users 25 and under seem to consider hair to be almost a fetish while my generation looked at a shaved pubes as something daring and unusual.

06-04-08  04:15pm - 6053 days #20
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Now here is exactly the site I'm looking for ... but! I've seen their preview, read the reviews and comments, ALS Scan has everything I want except: I don't like the All Ladies Shaved part. I know that's what it's all about but I like hair, too. Help!

06-04-08  04:09pm - 6053 days #14
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


To give you some idea of what's on Met-Art, drill down into their free website to page 4 or 5 and go to the bottom - "subscribe to our newsletter" - and you'll get a good idea of their stuff. (Be patient. The javascript for the subscription template is rather draggy.)

To summarize the content,
1. It's all young women. Only. On the Met-Art Planet, there are no men.
2. The shoots range from partial nudity (some but not that many) to legs wide open gynecological examination shots.
3. The only self touching, curiously, is a very casual hand drop that might brush a breast or the labia. Definitely no insertions of anything; not even labia lip spreads.
4. There are several lesbo sets where the sexual contact is far more suggestive around the breasts (licking, kissing, etc.) as well as 1980's Playboy style "close call" shots around the labia.

In shorter terms, I recommend that you try the free newsletter samplers first because I suspect you'll be disappointed when you see that Met Art is, indeed, nothing but naked

BTW, if you are into video stuff, Met Art has video but don't join for that. The resolution isn't great and manyu times the video is just of a photo shoot and nothing else.


Way ahead of you, Monahan. Just got my first newsletter this morning. I was a bit disappointed that they didn't include a couple of high resolution pictures. In vain hope I clicked on the first couple or so but only got the sign up form instead. :-) The models are indeed as gorgeous as the preview led me to believe!

06-02-08  07:15pm - 6055 days #11
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


MET Art will definitely set you up with a plethora of models and photographers to choose from - and you will find some exceptional examples of both. But do note that sexually explicit photography is pretty minimal - the models aren't usually all that shy, but they are generally just posing and not fiddling around with the naughty bits.

Also, many of the models are close to exclusive with the photographers they are with - rarely do you see a model shot by lots of different people. Due note that it has been a while since I've been a member, but MET has some pretty strong principles, so I doubt too much has changed.


I am glad you answered, Toadsith, because I had a question about the site and was going to put it under comments next to the reviews. This way is better:

Are we basically talking about nude photography or are there niches like lingerie, upskirt etc. to be found on the site? I couldn't get that info from the preview.

"Sexually explicit" is not a must but the niches I mentioned are important to me because I get easily bored with plain nudes no matter how attractive the model may be. I appreciate beauty but don't want to look at nothing but naked for a month. Blame encroaching old age for that. One does become slightly jaded after a time! :-)

And Monahan, the models are extremely good looking and the quality appears to be outstanding so I don't blame you for recommending the site.

06-02-08  02:47pm - 6056 days #9
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


The point is that you have been effective in defining your preferences, whatever terminology you use and they pretty nuch match mine.

What drives me nutz with photos is when the photographer is focusing on the labia and the model is in a partial supine position and he pays no attention to depth of field. The result is a sharp pic of the target but an out of focus set of tits and even more out of focus face. This kind of thing is correctible in most cases but when a photoset has a bunch of pics with that characteristic, either the photog is lazy, or the photog is trying to be artsy fartsy.

The technique occasionally is used as well for older women with age lines or young girls with complexion issues, but that's where a little PhotoShop work could preserve sharpess.

Earlier I suggested Met-Art for any and all kinds of photography because the sheer volume of stuff is so big, if you find a saturation level or fuzzy focus issue with one model, you have a lot of alternatives.


I know what you mean about the out of focus problem. You feel like shouting at the photographer: pull back a few feet, take your picture, then crop and enlarge and you'll have everything in focus, not only the labia. I would bet on "artsy" among the reasons mentioned by you.

And I must pay Met-Art a visit. I thanked you for the reference, was going to go there to have a look at their preview and then something else caught my eye and I forgot.
This time I'll do it right after I post this reply! And thanks for the second time!

06-02-08  08:16am - 6056 days #7
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:



Anyway, it sounds like you might not be looking for cool tones per say, but just good photography. That is much less prevalent than people will lead you to believe.


You might very well be right, Toadsith. I'm no expert on photography. When I'm talking "warm and soft" I am referring to all those models that seem to have been dusted with a brownish powder and then blurred slightly with Photoshop in order to hide imperfections! :-) So, maybe I should stop using the term "cool" and replace it with "natural and crisp."

05-31-08  08:43am - 6058 days #4
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Originally Posted by shooterbo:


this would be when I let someone use it to do their own thing, but can't get nosy when I'm away, and start looking into Documents, etc.


I protect all "sensitive" material with an encryption program. Mine is called Kremlin by Mach5. It's a bit time consuming to encrypt large files like high quality videos but rather that than giving access to porn to another user of my computer. When it comes to hiding Porn Sites from inquisitive (read younger) eyes, I use a Portal (eg. iGoogle, My Yahoo, My Netscape), protect it with a master password through Firefox and list all of the sites under "My Bookmarks" in there.

05-30-08  05:53pm - 6058 days #5
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


Suggest Met-Art for virtually all types of photographic styles. I have no particular preference on the temperature so long as the image is sharp and the photography is professional.


Thanks for the suggestion, Monahan. Sharpness is very important to me as well. One big reason why I keep mentioning temperature is because all too often too much color saturation and "softness" (lack of detail)seem to go hand in hand.

05-30-08  01:57pm - 6059 days #3
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Soft and crisp don't need to be tied to color tone. It is just a matter of aperture size when photographing the scene. If you open the aperture wide, you'll get a very narrow focus field, blurring out backgrounds and so on - close it down and everything will be in focus. It is an aesthetic choice. I prefer wide apertures for portraits and outdoors photography and medium to small apertures for everything else - leaning more towards crispness at most times.

Warm colors versus cool colors is any easy choice - humans are largely red based, so a cool color tones (blues) generally don't work well making the images just look washed out and unhealthy. It can work well if you are doing the goth look and want your subject to look like a vampire, especially if your subject already has naturally pale skin. Now granted sites often go a bit overboard on the warm colors - and everything looks like a shade of yellow or red - but generally, a slightly warm color set is much more flattering to humans.

So finding photographers that intentionally aim for cool color tones in standard nude photography sytle like ATK Galleria is going to be pretty hard. I know Sean R. at ATK Natural & Hairy used to do that and also aimed for extraordinarily crisp looking photos - but it laid such a harshness on the photos that they looked less like porn and more like crime scene photography.



I agree with you in connection with SeanR, Toadsith. I took him to task in a comment and review for using too much make-up on his models, making them look more like painted dolls than human beings. His photos were too harsh as well, as you stated. But I find that, lately, I've been downloading a lot of his material because he's eased up on the make-up as well as on the harshness.

But to return to the subject, it's awfully hard to express through words what exactly one is looking for. I simply want pale to look pale and not orange/brownish colored as is so often the case. Surely not everyone is sporting a tan.

I think Abby Winters was one site (so is Girls Out West) where I was quite comfortable when it came to crispness and flesh tone of the pictures. But demanding consumer that I am I got quickly tired of socks and cotton panties and denim at AW and would like to see the same kind of flesh tones and crispness in a more adult site where nylon and silk still reign! All I need to do now is find one! (Goths need not apply) :-) Edited on May 30, 2008, 02:01pm

05-30-08  10:21am - 6059 days Original Post - #1
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I think I discovered why I am disappointed with so many sites that get such high marks (e.g. Galleria) by the majority of subscribers and reviewers. I am a participant in another forum where the subject of "warm" vs. "cool" color tones is being discussed and I find, to my very real surprise, that most of the participants prefer "warm and soft" toned to "cool and crisp."

So, here's the reason for this new thread: In order to save myself further disappointment (and money) does anyone know of any sites where the photographers prefer "cool" colors in pictures and videos? And what is your preference?

05-27-08  06:18pm - 6061 days #12
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Originally Posted by Drooler:



Obviously, it's an empty ruse to treat your download activity as some kind of "Happy Meter." And that e-mail you sent? Negated by the downloads that prompted you to send it? What a load of bullshit.

Thanks for the tip. I'm the wiser for it.


That was ironic, wasn't it? And you're welcome!

05-27-08  08:06am - 6062 days #10
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


I remember getting into a few rounds of e-mail quid pro quo with someone at ATK Premium a while back (before the site took on its plainer current design). It started with me complaining about the many photosets showing the girls doing laundry, listening to music with headphones on, cooking, and other things that I thought were boring, boring in part because the girls were looking away from the camera so much. (Mind you, they've long since stopped doing that kind of stuff.)

Anyway, it got to the point where she was implying that I was some kind of degenerate for thinking so much about nude women (at their site, mind you). I thought, "Well, isn't that just like a woman to say a thing like that?" She was a director at the site!

I've also sent praise to both ATKP and the Galleria site. Sometimes they send a thank you, and sometimes they don't. It isn't like they have to. Either way, it wouldn't make them into degenerates in my mind.

But I think you've touched on an important point, which is that customer service is supposed to stay civil. And this is true even if the customer acts like a jerk. They're not supposed to bring themselves down to that level.

Good managers will deal with problems like that. They can review communications and "refresh" the workforce if necessary. Does ATK Galleria need such for its management? Most of the time, the tone of their communications to me has been either friendly or at least not hostile. But what you said makes me wonder.

I'd like to add a site that has been promptly responsive and friendly to my suggestions, and that's TorridArt. They are growing and seem to be pretty selective about their models overall.


I must keep TorridArt in mind. Courtesy and good customer service should be rewarded. My irritation with Galleria started after I stated that I found too much sameness in the site and asked if I could switch over to a sister site.

This was on the first day and I never heard from them until I wrote another email to support four days later. Their "specialist" wrote (paraphrased): "You couldn't be that unhappy with our site since you downloaded 2 Gigs of material since you joined!"

He did not take into consideration that I had to download some videos from each niche to see what they were like and that it only takes a few to reach that limit. I deleted all of them on the first day because of the boredom factor .. that's why my request to switch.

05-24-08  11:06am - 6065 days #7
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Best customer service: Abby Winters.

Worst (so far): ATK Galleria. I expressed my disappointment with the site on the first day of subscription, never got a reply for four days, wrote another email and the customer service "specialist" replied in a very sarcastic manner. I can understand being defensive about a site you love but aren't you supposed to keep that to yourself and make some soothing noises instead? Still haven't changed my mind, my downloads from there have been minimal, and I'm stuck with a three month subscription. If they had replied within 24hrs a refund might have been possible. I then would have used that to re-subscribe to their sister site ATK Natural and Hairy which I loved and which is far superior in my opinion. No one would have lost. ATK would have got their money back and I would have been subscribing to a site that gives me pleasure.

05-23-08  06:24pm - 6065 days #21
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Originally Posted by mr smut:


If you want to see an interesting city you should go for Berlin, Frankfurt, Hamburg or M&#65533;nchen (Munich). Those are the places to be!


I'm not too keen on Berlin (The Ku-Damm is okay!) or on Frankfurt, because they decided to leave the past behind when they rebuilt after WWII. I do like Munich but love most of all the medieval looking smaller cities and towns with half timbered houses that are still found throughout Germany.

05-23-08  06:13pm - 6065 days #20
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


The wrath is a quality movie, but I'm still a fanboy for IV, The Voyage Home. Something about a Bird of Prey decloaking over a whaling boat - I think that has to be one of my favorite cinematic moments ever. Plus it is such an amusing movie, lots of character interaction, less time spent on blowing crap up.



Episode IV is my favorite Star Trek movie. As a matter of fact I watched it again only a week ago. Save the whales!

05-23-08  06:09pm - 6065 days #19
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Originally Posted by mr smut:


Reminds me of what I heard from people that grew up on the wrong side of the wall that parted Germany for such a long time.

Oh, and b.t.w. Wolfenstein 3D was one of the most played games when it came out. I can't remember how many soldiers of the Wehrmacht or how many SS troopers I virtually killed ;-).


My brother who still lives in Germany told me at the time that the game was forbidden there. He took my copy home with him after a visit to Canada. Talk about guilt, killing all those Wehrmacht soldiers. I felt like a traitor. :-)

05-22-08  08:25am - 6067 days #5
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Originally Posted by biker:


I wish the industry would expand even more. How many bedroom sets can you see? This is why I prefer feature films with a storyline over a gonzo with five scenes of basically the thing. Kitchens are about the only place a have a problem with. To have sex where you prepare food turns me off. I like to see more exotic settings. And of course that also includes exotic outfits. I don't know about baggy sweat pants, but spandex and body stockings are nice to see. So a feature film that finds a couple in a locker room is a nice change from seeing bedroom scene after bedroom scene.

I have explored several types of sites over the years and what I find changing more than anything is the sex itself. It seems the industry wants messier climaxes. Spewing in her bun hole or on her face. This is the trend I am seeing more of as the new sites show up. Even solo scenes require bigger objects for the women to insert. God knows they must be sore after some of those insertions. But to each his/her own.


I'm all for different locales rather than bedrooms only. And I agree with you about the kitchens but for a different reason. It gets boring. In Aunt Judy's, for instance, you have every model a) in the kitchen, b) ironing c) in front of mirrors in the bath room and d) in a Gym locker room in baggy sweats (mostly), hardly ever in Spandex or Lycra! Does anyone really find that sexy?

05-20-08  07:08am - 6069 days #10
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Originally Posted by Goldfish:


The sex slave trade dried up in the US a long time ago. I doubt she was forced into anything.

Lighten up, this is supposed to be a fun site! ;-)


I didn't say she was forced into anything. Nor do I see my reply as a downer. Just a reasonable plea to go easy on the girl! :-)

05-19-08  03:52pm - 6070 days #8
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I didn't even know about this Erica Campbell business until I read the thread about jd1961 a few moments ago. First, I wonder if the site quoted by jd is genuine because I just went to the official site to check and it's still up and that despite the fact that Erica Campbell is listed as owner (at least by TBP/PU.) Now to the point I'd like to make:

if her conversion is real it shouldn't be mocked!

Many of us realize at a certain point in our lives that we've taken a wrong turn and decide to head in another direction. As a new Christian (if the story is real) she would see the Porn industry in a different light .. even we who aren't involved get a glimpse now and then of what's going on behind the scenes on late night TV (Debbie does Dallas, Seymour Butts, Porn Valley etc.). There are a lot of sleazy characters involved in the skin trade and this would certainly cause a certain repugnance in someone who now feels spiritually compelled to turn her back on her former life. She should be understood and forgiven if she comes across a bit preachy!

Let's wish her well and let's hope that the next girl we look at is in it wholeheartedly and not just because she needs drugs or is messed up in other ways (according to Erica).

My porn consuming days would be over if I ever thought that my favorite model was doing what she is doing reluctantly or against her will.

05-19-08  02:37pm - 6070 days #4
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Originally Posted by mr smut:


I noticed it last night and was a bit shocked because I always liked to see his opinion.


I'm really sorry to see that he left. I, too, liked to read his comments and reviews.

And, hey, I love Andie!! If AO30 had more pictures in "landscape" format I'd subscribe today .. just for a few of her sets.

05-19-08  01:08pm - 6070 days #9
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Originally Posted by pat362:


If the buyers/users were a bit more discerning it would have stopped ages ago. I know that I delete a downloaded scene the moment the spitting starts and turn down the sound on most other scenes or DVDs once the model starts her enthusiastic yelps and moans!

Since the kind of spitting we are talking about is quite new to the porn world. It would have been impossible to have stopped ages ago.

Do you suppose that it's one of the reasons why the porn industry is in a slow down?
Many of us have been complaining about certain acts we find unacceptable or unsexy in todays porn? If you take someone like you or me who won't buy a movie because of spitting, then someone who doesn't buy movie because of excessive rough sex, then because of ATM/PTM, and so on. At some point you are left with very few people buying porn.
I like to complain when I'm disatisfied, but if the person to whom I'm complaining isn't listening or just doesn't care, then I simply put my money elsewhere.


I should have been a bit clearer, pat362. I was no longer referring to spitting when I wrote that it should have stopped long ago. I strayed off subject and was talking about the exaggerated expressions of sexual transport on the part of the models. Those loud moans and groans are so incredibly phony that people should have stopped watching the porn stars/movies ages ago. Yet the producers keep turning out the DVDs by the hundreds.

I'm a bit different from you when it comes to contents that is extreme or distasteful to some, it's not exactly what I am looking for personally but I understand that tastes differ. As long as the model is willing to do what she is doing. I just hate phony behavior: the spitting, the yelling, the slapping of her buttock by the model .. all trendy, ridiculous stuff that I hope will go out of fashion soon.

05-19-08  08:09am - 6070 days #7
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Originally Posted by Goldfish:


Thank you messmer for this thread! I've brought up this disgusting trend before in my reviews and a poll once, I think. I've never enjoyed the spitting and it appears from this site those that do enjoy it are in a minority. When is the porn industry going to do a poll and figure it out for themselves?


I have no answer to that, Goldfish, because porn users are so often indifferent to things like spitting, as long as their favorite model is on a DVD or porn site. I don't think anyone enjoys those phony yells of lust and all the exaggerated moaning that comes with all those fake orgasms either, yet they keep on churning out material like that day after day.

If the buyers/users were a bit more discerning it would have stopped ages ago. I know that I delete a downloaded scene the moment the spitting starts and turn down the sound on most other scenes or DVDs once the model starts her enthusiastic yelps and moans!

05-18-08  12:40pm - 6071 days #5
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I was wondering when did the use of lubricant disapear in films? I can remember a time when you could see the performers reaching for it, or could see when a performer
was clearly using it. Today it's spit, spit, spit and frankly it's just not sexy at all.
What I find unsexy and truly offensive is the spitting in faces, or each others mouths. I don't don't know which
mysoginistic person came up with spitting in the face, but he or she needs to get their head examined.
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that Max Hardcore is responsible for introducing the spit blowjob or what I refer to as a drool blowjob. Where is the appeal in seeing a girl drool spit all over herself when giving a blowhob?????


I think there is a considerable percentage of porn users who like to see humiliation and degradation, look at all the web sites dedicated to that theme. Are they truly misogynists or do they like scenes like that for their novelty value, because they have become jaded when it comes to "normal?"

In any case, people are wonderful, diverse critters .. you never know what turns another person on. And that's fine, we all have our fantasies.

When it comes to spitting, I agree, (obviously since I started the thread). I don't like spitting and wish the fad would disappear ... quickly. When women do it to themselves it tells me clearly that they are not in the mood and are doing it for the check alone (of course except for true amateurs they are, but need it be so obvious?) When women do it to men I wonder why the saliva in their mouths wouldn't do the trick without having to spit. It's a strange fad.

05-18-08  12:25pm - 6071 days #4
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Originally Posted by Denner:


The male to female part of spitting probably has a history of lubricating, as messmer mentions - ok, but I agree - too much salvia in that field.
Whats worse - I think - is videos where girls almost seem to "vomit" with spit over a cock - do not think thats a turn-on at all. Man, it so bad sometimes you can't even see the difference in the male cum-climax from spit...


It's the latter that really turns me off, Denner. Since when did men need someone to spit on their cock? As to your last sentence, you are absolutely right! I've often wondered is it all spit?

05-18-08  09:04am - 6071 days Original Post - #1
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I am a pictures fan who only recently started to look at videos and I noticed that a lot of models, male and female now spit on their partners' sex organs. To me this says that the female model is play-acting (and of course in most cases she is) and it takes spit to lubricate her. Couldn't they lubricate her discretely before the shoot starts. Even in masturbation scenes the model will spit on her fingers. Is anyone else turned off by that or are all you video fans used to it by now and don't mind?

05-11-08  07:59am - 6078 days #2
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Originally Posted by Denner:


It seems like those - once - very popular trust-ratings are almost bygone.
They are getting more and more rare both from old and new users. We once had a lot of debate on the matter - and most PUs considered it rather importend. But PUs giving one another good or bad rating is now like a dead heering.
Off course I'm also speaking for myself - just short of two - but still think it's a great way for the commonwealth - and good concerning the still growing number of new users.
Let's get it working again!
And don't hold back on handing out no-trusts, if you got a good reason...but never do it anonymous.


I still wonder who gave me my first and one and only "don't trust" rating. My first review was fair (Abby Winters), I thought, and the score was certainly not outrageous. Must have been because I had just showed up on the scene. Because of this experience I've been pretty careful not to hand out too many of these things, especially to newbies.

The "trusts" are reserved for people whose reviews I've read over a period of time and I know for sure that they are trying to be fair. The "no trusts" are for the one time users who pop up to give a site a hundred! And I agree with you about the anonymous business.

05-10-08  07:02pm - 6078 days Original Post - #1
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It was startling enough to see "smoking" turn into a fetish but what really baffles me is to see all those pictures of models in locker rooms these days. Is there really anything remotely erotic about a girl/woman holding weights in her hands while wearing a pair of baggy sweats?

I mean exercise is fine but on a porn site? Wouldn't a bedroom me more appropriate, or at least a sofa? Or the great outdoors?

But a locker room? And weights? And sweat suits? I suppose they go well with cotton!! :-)

05-09-08  02:00pm - 6080 days #14
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Originally Posted by JBDICK:


there is nothing more sexy than a mesh (tight) thong, preferably damp with excitment, failing to conseal a well kept landing strip (not bald) bordered by a very well maintained tan line...

One of the most erotic aspects of wearing panties is being able to see what is underneath without them being completely see thru...like a preview...love the build up.

cotton...no thanks

...high cut on the thigh...oh my god, I just realised...MAJOR TURN ON in Panty world...

thongs that have a small diamond back instead of a tied piece of string...and make sure those sides are two strings not one. hike the panties up real high on the thigh, enough to suggest the girls legs are longer than they really are and encourages the the panties around the crotch to become very tight...swollen...

Christ, I think I'll go and eat a doughnut....Ding Dong

but before I go... perfect panty photo ever...Cynthia Paul www.nsgalleries.com/hosted1/hh/gals/cynt...-paul-info/pic11.jpg, on a sofa, wearing a pink thong, semi see-thru, two strings on the side and she's pulling them up. not the one I have linked but in the same set...AWESOME


I take back what I said about thongs. That is one beautiful shot!

05-08-08  08:04pm - 6080 days #11
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Originally Posted by Goldfish:


I agree with you messmer, seeing some adult undies thrown into the mix once in a while would be nice.


Thank you, Goldfish, glad to see I have company! :-)

05-08-08  08:03pm - 6080 days #10
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Originally Posted by WeeWillyWinky:


I must be living in a strange alternate universe, the one where Spock has a beard. Are you looking at the older sets at ATK Galleria? Because it seems to me most sites, ATK included, are heading away from old-school style panties (full-cut cotton and nylon) in favor of thongs, shorts posing as panties, and various types of flimsy stringy things that hardly cover anything.

It's not unusual for me to be completely outside the loop, however.


I think you misunderstood some of what I wrote, WWW. That's exactly what's bothering me, that sites like ATK Galleria are heading away from old-school type panties, especially the nylon, rayon, silk ones! I'm not so stuck in the past that I can't get used to new styles therefore I'm not necessarily pining for full cut, but should everything be in cotton? That's my beef. :-) I hear your beef as well, though, if it is a beef: shorts posing as panties, panties posing as shorts, flimsy strings and thongs are a definite turn-off for most but the very young (I assume).

05-08-08  07:43pm - 6080 days #9
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Originally Posted by HeatherMcXxx:


I prefer cotton. =) It's comfy. =)


Ah, and there's the rub. Most women like to be comfortable, that's why they also prefer pantyhose (those sexless pieces of apparel) to stockings. 'Tis understandable but on porn sites they might at least make a bit of an effort for those over 30 (or maybe 40). For us, cotton is either young girlish or totally lacking in appeal. The young 'uns among us males don't know any better that's why the sites get away with bland. :-)

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