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02-13-19  07:11pm - 2138 days #5
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400 discounts??!!

😮 "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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02-11-19  06:20pm - 2140 days #3
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


Harassment of those who like porn that does not appeal to you is not acceptable.


Hear! Hear! Khan's zero-tolerance policy for any kind of harassment or name-calling was a good rule, that should continue to be strictly enforced.

Also, I've posted it before, but I totally agree with your aforementioned suggestions for the pinned threads. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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02-11-19  06:16pm - 2140 days #4
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Originally Posted by FreddieAdmin:


Once again, I wanted to say that you guys are the lifeblood of the community and what keeps it alive and a great place. I know I'm new here but it's clear how passionate you all are and it's very inspiring.


That's the spirit!

Porn Users is supposed to be the happy & friendly corner of the web that welcomes all of us perverted customers of the pornographic industries! As they say with any relationship, there's always hope when both sides are at least willing to talk. Looking forward to reading the suggested changes post 😄 "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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02-09-19  09:44pm - 2142 days #501
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


An apology is a good place to start.

Did not read the raffle rules even after she made the first mistake, did not even know about what she had previously posted in the first incident.

[...]

After the second incident I disabled my account. I had a change of heart and contacted her to reopen it. She was unaware that it was disabled. A regular here is not noticed?

I am sorry but this is not about cutting someone slack.


Those are some serious missteps, not going to lie. Hopefully all this discussion will lead to some changes for the better. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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02-09-19  11:38am - 2142 days #4
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


The end of last year MikeC gave out some free year long memberships. The number of reviews that were generated was truly astonishing.

As long as a review is not tainted by a conflict of interest, such as a quid pro quo that a site be reviewed favorably, free memberships can help make PU better.


Khan always seemed to believe that a conflict of interest was inevitable and wouldn't hear anything of it. The fact that Mike C is more open to it is good to know, and it sounds like the experiment was fruitful.

I actually did I think 2 reviews that were from free memberships, but I kept it a closely guarded secret lest I awoke the wrath of Khan.

Again, as long as there was 100% transparency about the review being from a free membership, like Amazon Vine, I'd be totally OK with this becoming a moderately commonplace practice on the site. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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02-09-19  11:32am - 2142 days #498
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


Toadsith we are honored by your presence here. This is a great post.


Awww, thank you 😊 Glad to see you are still so actively involved! "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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02-09-19  11:31am - 2142 days #497
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:

To all my fellow members, its been a nice ride for 12 years. I wont be back.


Sorry to see you go, but be well and do great things. 😔 "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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02-09-19  11:29am - 2142 days #496
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Originally Posted by exotics4me:

I don't agree with being this hard on Freddie. [...] We always help new staff. And even worse, this past holiday season was maybe the busiest in years on PU. I'm sorry guys, this is one time that I'm just going to offer any help to Freddie that she might need.

100% agree. Reading through this thread, it seems like there was blood in the water and there was nothing @FreddieAdmin could say that would make amends after a few missteps — she was going to get bit for simply responding. A more eloquent mea culpa might have helped, but as far as I see it, she acknowledged her mistake, and said changes were going to be made to improve. Granted those are just words, but they are the sentiment we want, no?

Originally Posted by exotics4me:

When we talk about changes from Khan/Rick to Rabbit, that's one that rarely gets mentioned. We no longer operate like a community. We're staff over here, members over there.

I do think Mike gets that as I've read where he knows that a lot of us have strong attachments to PU, to our old friend Khan but I don't know how much the current staff understands that connection or attachment. It was unique, after all.

I'm going to use this to show what I mean. Khan has been gone for 6 years now. He's still #8 on the most forum posts list. He wasn't just staff or administrator, he was one of us. Many members and ex-members alike, want that kind of interaction from the staff. If it can be done, I kind of got the idea Freddie was going to be more involved, I do think it improves Porn Users.

10000% YES. This, completely this. Khan was a unique element that really set the tone of this site. I had mostly left the site before the sale due to a lot of reasons that had more to do with me than the site, but his absence was visible almost immediately. Khan weighed in on discussions, and always had a hand on the till, it was kind of like sharing the site with a supportive but very watchful father. He gave gentle reminders of where the line was whenever people began inching past it. I think we all loved the man but also feared his disciplinarian hand. Most moderaterators operate like a figurehead of a judicial system, coming when they are called and doling out justice.

Khan was a bit of a helicopter dad. Often he was the first to reply to any new thread, and if somebody was making a post that would fit in an already existing thread, he'd link them to that thread, remind them of how the search feature works, and encourage them to go make a new post over there. He was also simply engaged on a social level, Khan never let people forget that he was the moderator, but he was also happy to weigh in on discussions, especially ones that veered away from simple topics about porn (the usual "best ass in porn today" type schlock) but instead entered the meta, the philosophical, or even were just completely off topic but interesting none-the-less, like music or hollywood movies, et cetera.

It was very comforting to have a friend of the community running the site, not a friendly staff member.

Originally Posted by exotics4me:

There was an overwhelming amount of mentions of Khan's passing but those aren't impossible to fix. They wanted more interaction like Khan brought to the forum. They said Khan's moderating of topics was the best and stopped members from bullying and avoided the possible "mob mentality" breakdowns that forums see.

Again, YES. Khan gave out bans like hotcakes for bullying. There was a Zero-Tolerance Policy on that.

@FreddieAdmin Would you prefer the community report instances of bullying asap to you using the report feature? Under Khan's reign, the only time I would report things was if it was obvious spam to help get it off the site asap. Since Khan read the site so much, I respected his judgement about when a conversation was simply heated versus entering the territory of bullying. But we all could try to be more vigilant about that if it would help you.

Originally Posted by exotics4me:

One ex-member said something happened in his porn viewing interests and he started enjoying transsexual porn. He posted a review or two of transsexual sites and "as soon as I posted in the forum, several members started being asses to me, I had enough confusion about why I was liking transsexual porn but didn't stick around to see if anyone had answers for me."

That's just awful. I'm sorry to hear that happened.

Originally Posted by exotics4me:

I'm offering two female members.

YES! Let's make this happen, Porn Users has always been too male dominated.


In summary: Great post, @exotics4me, lots of useful information, constructive criticism, and helpful suggestions. I'd love to see old user's come back, and new users breathe life into this place.


EDIT: As I've been catching up with the current state of the site, I'm actually noticing that @FreddieAdmin has been posting a lot of new threads and engaging with other users quite a bit — that's great! Thank you! "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Edited on Feb 09, 2019, 12:50pm

02-09-19  01:55am - 2143 days #2
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These suggestions all make sense to me.

I know during the Khan Era, there was a strong push by management against free memberships for the sake of user reviews. However, we all know that professional reviewers aren't footing the bill of trying out whatever they are reviewing but we expect them to be able to take price into a when creating a review. Maybe Porn Users can add a special tag for reviews that were created based off a free membership. Much like Amazon's Vine reviews.



[On a completely unrelated note: Anyone else notice that the link to the image that is supposed to show the smileys are hidden is broken? 👉 ) "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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02-09-19  01:46am - 2143 days #337
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


We need to have this thread pinned to the top so people can find it easily.


I swear it was at one time.

Really, this thread should be replaced yearly, with the latest version pinned, and the first post linking to the past years and listing the blacklisted sites that won't / can't be added for whatever reason. Right now we should be on the start of Sites Not Listed on "Porn Users" - 2019.

(I feel like we really need to stop looking at Porn Users as a child of The Best Porn and more of its own entity. I've always thought it was the superior site) "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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02-09-19  01:30am - 2143 days #98
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Gort is dating Alexa now and has taken up decorative engraving of antique shovels that he sells to hipsters on Etsy. We are all safe from him as long as Alexa doesn't ditch him for Siri.

Thank you for cheerful welcome back! I'll try to be more active, though I doubt I'll be able to match my old level of dedication to this site. My current job kind of frowns on people browsing porn during the work day, lol

Glad to see you are still keeping that suicidal kitten alive and unwell, some things are better left unchanged by the sands of time! "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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02-09-19  01:22am - 2143 days #491
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Originally Posted by MikeC:


In a world of Reddit, a global forum/message board where you can talk about porn, politics and whatever else you want with just one login, what role does PU play?


Reddit should be seen as both an ally and a reason for existing for Porn Users. Is Reddit a wonderful open forum full of appreciation of every possible pornographic niche that is legally available? Yes. Is it also one of the largest hubs for sharing pirated pornographic materials which puts small content producers out of business because nobody wants to hand them $20 for something they can just stream on Reddit? Yup, it's also that.

The fact of the matter is that Porn Users needs to have a Reddit and Twitter footprint to survive and thrive. It needs to lean in and hold fast to the principles that Khan layed down during its formative years. This is a site dedicated to the appreciation, respect, and continued employment of the stars and producers of the world's best pornography. It is supposed to be a welcoming environment that embraces all (legal) fetishes and provides knowledgeable reviews that not only dive into the specific but also into the ephemeral. Users should leave a review not only knowing how big the videos are on a site, but also the artistic vision of that site as well.

Pornography, like any other form of visual entertainment, is highly subjective, so we all need to find reviewers that share our tastes. This was one of the things that set Porn Users apart from the professional review sites. A popular site usually got 5 or more relatively recent reviews within the past 6 months from different people. If you weren't familiar with a specific reviewer, you could then look at their history and find a review from them on a site you'd been a member with before, and then you could judge if their tastes ran true to yours, or were significantly different, and add that judgement to the score they gave to the new (to you) site.

It is a testament to the corrupting nature of human greed that the need for an organization like Consumer Reports is perhaps greater than ever. They turned 83 years old this January, and while there have been many technological innovations in those passing decades, there have also been a horde of new scams, drops in quality, and general disregard for human safety that I shudder to think what we'd be living with if they had closed shop. Planned obsolescence is a plague that has been ravaging our consumer goods for easily 50 years, but at least Consumer Reports is able to nudge companies to make products safer when the technology is relatively economical. They were crucial in getting manufacturers to put radar-assisted braking technology standard in all cars, and Toyota (their forever darling) installed it 2-years ahead of schedule across their entire line.

Porn Users can be the Consumer Reports of the Adult industry. It can be that beacon shines light on malicious websites, and lauds producers of excellence.

Originally Posted by MikeC:


In an online world where very, very low memberships are commonplace (for Black Friday this year, Evil Angel, one of the biggest companies in the industry, were offering $5/30 day memberships), and the risk of being swindled has mostly (but not entirely, to be sure) gone away because it's the big brands and big companies that rule over all, what value does PU bring to not just the members of the site but also those who stumble on it, where there are few (bad) surprises and less risk than ever?


Mostly is a VERY strong word for the current state of the industry. Will a reputable site turn into a credit-card stealing street urchin the way German Goo Girls did some years ago? (They may actually be ok again, they seem to be posting new content) Not very likely, but that extreme level of theft is not really the risk I was ever worried about from the industry. I saw that Naughty America, one of the largest and oldest networks, was very recently swindling its customers by adding an up-charge to every one of its channels. It was like subscribing to HBO and then finding out that Game of Thrones is in the Fantasy category and you need to drop another $10 a month to get access to it.

Could somebody post a warning on Reddit about it? Sure. But have you actually tried searching Reddit? Unless you have a very specific search query (which usually means you already know the answer but you are looking for a key detail) you will get swamped by loads of mildly relevant but almost entirely useless posts. Reddit is a loveable but nearly unregulated shit-show of chaos, drama, and depression. It can be informative and fascinating, but it is unreliably either of those things.

The fact of the matter is that I don't go on reddit when I'm making buying decisions. The opinions are too varied, too scattered, too unreliable. I look to professional sites and I look to user review sites with a modicum of organization. Consumer Reports is great, but they don't review porn, and they are only useful for general reviews of anything. If you really know about a product category, in-depth, you'll usually find their reviews broadly correct, but useless in the specific. For that you must turn to a niche site, where real fanatics will dig into the category and lay its secrets bare.

For pornography, Porn Users was that site, and somewhat still is. I must admit that I've always felt we underrepresented the Gay Porn community, but otherwise, it had a pretty good collection of regular reviewers that covered a broad spectrum of fetishes. And as long as people will try to recycle content, add charges for crappy service, and other unique ways to sneak extra money from the dollars of pornographic spectators, there will be a need for an organization like Porn Users.

Originally Posted by MikeC:


I think it is very easy to just dismiss us and the team as "not minding the store," but it's another to think about the online adult industry and where a forum like PU fits into the larger scheme. It's not what it was just 5 years ago, let alone 10 or 12, when you joined.


Honestly, while I spent countless hours on the forums over the years, for me it always and always will be about the reviews. I didn't always have the time or money review as many sites as I would have liked, but that was always the focus for me. I'm a collector and a fan (let's not forget that is short for "fanatic") of pornography. It has always been my desire and goal to improve the industry, to share my enthusiasm for the content, and to see the industry thrive.

In the past decade I've been lucky to see a world that, in general, seemed to be moving towards a lessening of the taboo and stigma of the pornographic industry and sex workers as a whole. However, that has taken a turn of late. Most famously with Tumblr, but also in subtler ways like through Instagram and Gmail (most shockingly). Sex workers are very broadly defined by these monolithic corporations that control the pipelines of news and entertainment through which we connect with the digital world, and they can invisibly silence entire segments of the population through the use of simple computer algorithms. Not only can they do this, they are doing this.

I've seen it happen overtly on platforms like Patreon, and I've learned from women working in the burlesque industry, that Google is treating what they deem to be "sexually charged" advertisements from legitimate user accounts like spam, and hiding it from their users. These are self-owned, usually women-owned, small businesses that can't reach their audience because a corporation decided to overlay its faux morality on the computers handling their social content. So while I think the population, and certainly millennials in the specific, are becoming more sex-positive and less judgemental of those who earn a living from sex work and sex work adjacent industries, our corporate overlords are heading in the opposite direction.

That may have veered a little off topic, but the gist of it is that Porn Users provides an organized place for enthusiasts to share their reasoned and moderately unfiltered opinions about the content they like to collect and consume. The forums provide a... forum... to discuss the nuances of the industry. At its best, the forums are a place to explore the meta, the esoteric, and the just plain weird, within the umbrella of pornography.

Originally Posted by MikeC:


For what it's worth, my opinion on these questions is that (as a webmaster mentioned to me recently) we live in a Yelp world. There absolutely is a place for user-generated reviews of adult sites, a place where people can honestly and earnestly talk about a hobby they can't typically share out in the open. The old way of doing things simply won't work anymore.


I legit don't know what to make of this quote. We live in a post Yelp world. That platform is on the outs because nobody trusts it anymore and Google Maps is crushing it. Was it king? For sure. But they have squandered their trust and people are running away. It is ranked 217 in the world, and has moved 10 spots down the list in the past 3 months alone.

You say there is a place for user-gen reviews of adult sites, but are you saying that isn't PU? That it's Reddit and we are the old way?

Originally Posted by MikeC:


We have been collecting all of the feedback on to how to make this a better site. We are hearing you and we want and will make changes.

I know there is an element of us both talking past each other, but you feel as if we are not doing due diligence and that is why the site has been on the decline and I am trying to express that we have tried to make adjustments and changes precisely because it is declining.


I'm running out of characters, but in short: Learn from Reddit. Turn some of your fanatics into moderators. Utilize Reddit and Twitter as platforms to direct people to Porn Users. And work on better cooperation with small porn sites. Give them a voice here.

Cheers. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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02-09-19  12:03am - 2143 days #96
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Jeez, I leave you folks alone for a mere 775 days and it all goes to hell?

This raffle drama looks like it unleashed some seriously pent-up grievances. I'm sad to hear the site usage has been declining so much. I recently got back into the world a bit due to the purchase of the Oculus Go (I'll see about crafting some new reviews for VR sites this weekend) and healthier paycheck than I'd seen in a longtime.

I may even wade into the raffle debacle for a smidge. I may have been absent for awhile, but I still have a love for this place. I feel like we owe it to Khan for the site to soldier on as a stalwart and respectful watchman over an industry that will forever be plagued by apathetic creators and fraudulent business-folk because the taboo nature of sexuality leaves a vulnerability that can be taken advantage of. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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12-25-16  10:15pm - 2918 days #4
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It goes to show that consent continues to be a serious problem in this industry.

Nikki Benz is a contract star, a spokesperson, and is about as big a name as you get and yet nobody on the set took her objections seriously. It sounds like Tony T. has a history of this behavior as a director. I know that as a performer he was definitely on the roughest end of the gonzo scale during that era, so it makes sense that he would continue in that vein as a director. That said, naive old me assumed that the activities had been discussed with the performers ahead of time and consented to. It makes me worry that a lot of those women went home feeling violated. There are enough women who enjoy rough sex that the industry should never force women who don't into such scenes.

I'm honestly pretty shocked that Ramon was involved in the shoot and continued with it while Nikki was yelling "CUT" and "STOP". That said, Ramon is probably paid a lot less than she is and was worried that the director wouldn't hire him again if he stopped. It was the wrong decision, and I think less of him for not realizing that in the moment. Consent is paramount. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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12-04-16  10:10pm - 2939 days #9
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I'll admit the Republican Senate & Republican Congress was a surprise, but I must point out that Hillary Clinton took the popular vote by more than 2.5 million votes.

Trump will be the 3rd U.S. President to win his position without winning the popular vote, the 2nd in 12 years. If the Electoral College doesn't stop him from entering the White House (and it won't), then it will have finally and conclusively proven that it is an outdated and worthless institution that is disrupting the will of the people.

In general, Americans aren't all that conservative. Marijuana legalization sweeping across the nation is easy proof of that. Yet somewhere around the time of Reagan the moral conservatives got a stranglehold on the Republican party that persists to this day. That group of extremists doesn't represent the average Republican voter, but they are rather thoroughly entrenched and it doesn't look like anything is going to change too soon. If Trump had lost this election as thoroughly as he should have (and was expected to by most, with the notable exception of the omniscient Nate Silver) it might have been the catalyst necessary to shake up that party and knock some of those psychos out of power. With him in power, and the excessively establishment insider cabinet he is building, I don't think the party is going to change at all.

Now it is up to the Democrats to listen to the likes of Bernie Sanders and reconnect with the people. Many of the policies of the Democratic party are intended to support the core of Trump's supporters, but as usual, the Democrats have done a shitty job of explaining it. They need to learn how to talk to the common folk. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new America. You know... morons.

Trump gets that. He knows that he can continue wearing his $10,000 hand-crafted Brioni suits as long as he puts on a cheap, brightly-colored, trucker hat with a simple jingoistic phrase. It is so effective it borders upon self-parody, yet the fact of the matter is that people are really that simple. They like that he shows strong emotions, that he speaks in simple language, and that he says harsh things against the perceived establishment. They find him entertaining, confident, and powerful. His forty-year quest to attach his name to everything in sight has made him look like a massively successful businessman who has earned the right to exhibit braggadocio. Trump is an amazing salesman for himself. The fact that he is a pretty shitty businessman doesn't really matter in this instance.

Democrats, and all of the various hopeful "third" parties, need to be good salesmen too. Obama did it pretty well, leveraging social media to encourage mass participation, as did Bernie, but the party as a whole didn't learn from Obama's lessons.

and now we have a nightmare president about to get the keys to the world's largest arsenal of nuclear weapons. So I think I'll just go enjoy life in this bag over here... "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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12-03-16  08:42pm - 2940 days #6
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Originally Posted by pat362:

Obscenity.
That's the kind of word that should send shivers down the back of anyone who loves the Constitution because it wouldn't be all that difficult for a powerful group to tag a site or organisation as being obscene or producing obscene material.


This.

This is the problem with legislation of this sort. Supposedly the USA is all about freedom of speech, but the moral conservatives don't give a fuck about that. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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12-02-16  08:42pm - 2941 days #4
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How many times are we going to have to fight this shit?

I've never been one for jingoism, but these days it is just straight embarrassing to possess an American passport. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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11-30-16  08:17pm - 2943 days #4
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For the time being, VR is going to be king, I believe. I think the cameras will get better and the headsets will become cheaper (though the phone versions are already insanely cheap). I believe VR will remain quite passive for the time being, but that the immersive value remains effective despite this. Eventually, adult-oriented, photo-realistic 3d games will become a thing, but I don't think the money is there right now to make that happen. Maybe in 15 years or so.

I don't believe sex robots will be a thing anytime soon, real people are simply cheaper. Maybe next century.

Haptic-feedback and teledildonics are mostly gimmicky — there will remain a fringe level of interest, but I don't think they are very effective. Maybe somebody will prove me wrong one of these days. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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11-29-16  07:47pm - 2944 days #1240
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I forgot that Snyder directed 300. That was a fun movie, silly but very watchable, I've seen it probably 3 times. Never bothered with the sequel, not sure if it is worth the 2 hours.

Batman v. Superman entirely lost me when they cast Ben Affleck, but the elevator pitch is patently silly, as this is what would logically happen:
http://www.passfailstudios.com/index.php?id=2

I also haven't been motivated to see it since literally everything I've read and everyone I know whose seen it has had the same reaction as you.

Currently, the only cinema Batman that matters to me is Lego Batman — I'm very much looking forward to that film!

I was never a Superman fan anyway. (Though Lois & Clark was pretty fun.) "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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11-24-16  08:15pm - 2949 days #5
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Originally Posted by MikeC:


Contrast that to Italy, which has a more, shall we say, liberal approach to pornography and have even elected pornstars into parliament:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilona_Staller


Good point! Italy is much more reasonable about that sort of thing. Mara Carfagna comes to mind as well. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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11-18-16  09:20pm - 2955 days #2
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If the theaters do this, that'll be the end of movie theaters.

Movie tickets are regularly $15 in my area, and I've seen theaters in the $18 range. IMAX easily surpasses that. I used to go to the theaters monthly, sometimes weekly, but that was when watching a movie cost the same as a large value meal at McDonald's. Now it is entering sit-down dining for two prices — for one ticket!

When you compare this to the fact that most people have a 50+ inch TV at home already, I think more and more will just opt to consume films at home in their underwear. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Originally Posted by Otrivine:

All these DVDs are either NTSC or PAL and even with the best ripping tools the result isn't always what I hoped to expect in terms of resolution and quality.

That's because DVDs are lower resolution than we generally think. In the high definition terms used these days (4K, 1080p, 720p), DVDs don't qualify as high definition at 480p. It is better than traditional television though.

Originally Posted by Otrivine:

I'm actually confused which option should suit me the best. My PC is equipped with a Blu-Ray drive but long not every studio is releasing their content on Blu-Ray.

I think that is because Blu-Ray requires licensing fees that smaller studios can't afford. That said, almost all of them are releasing their content digitally in 1080p HD, which is the same as traditional Blu-Ray.

Originally Posted by Otrivine:

Buying Blu-Ray discs is one but then again I need to rip them I have want to have them digitally on my NAS.

Buying a Blu-Ray only to rip it back into a digital file is an exercise in futility, just download the 1080p HD video from them directly and save yourself the trouble. Digital Playground is even offering 4K downloads now.

Originally Posted by Otrivine:

..and come in one piece while I would rather have them scene by scene.

Is that your main concern? Having the scenes stitched together? That is very easy to do with digital video files. There are a ton of free video encoders that can achieve this. VirtualDub and AVISynth come to mind as Divinx recently mentioned them.

Originally Posted by Otrivine:

Because of my location I can't for instance buy movies from blacked.com or tushy.com.

For regional restrictions, nothing beats a good quality VPN service, and they are cheaper than you'd think. You can easily specify your location as the United States, Sweden, or wherever else gets you the content you need. Here is a good comprehensive review of most of the current VPN providers: https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-anonymous-review-160220/

Originally Posted by Otrivine:

I was recently a member of EvilAngel.com and I think they have pretty much their entire collection online. I have no clue if there are other porn studios which have their entire collection available online for download? Any advice is more then welcome and much appreciated however I prefer websites with 4k Ultra HD content or else at least Full HD content.

I honestly am not sure why you care about a studio having "their entire collection online" if you only care about 4K HD and Full (1080p) HD, as that is only going to be movies and scenes from at most the last 10 years for most studios. It would have to be a very cutting-edge studio to be filming in 1080p before 2006 (Blu-Ray was released to the public in June of 2006). So for most studios, 2005 and earlier would be DVD quality at best. So really you just need studios that are currently posting new work, because that's where all the 4K content will be. Honestly, almost everybody is doing at least 1080p these days and it is becoming increasingly uncommon to see sites not uploading in 4K as well.

The short of it is you need to let people know what sort of content you are looking for. If you are looking for full-length movies that feature a cohesive storyline that threads through the whole film, those are pretty damn rare these days and Digital Playgrounds and Vivid are some of the only companies doing it. If you just want story-driven porn, there are a ton of sites doing that, from independent sites to mainstream sites like the titan of internet porn: Brazzers "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Originally Posted by bibo:


Wouldn't that be illegal sharing of content?


There's a fine-line between creating fan content and illegally sharing content. In my opinion, editing to the extreme you and ltjgbroccoli are doing is genuine creative work. As long as you link to the source (I would link to the pay site and not pornhub, like many on reddit do) I think it is good advertising for the sites. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Originally Posted by Amanda:

Haha, interesting Amazon graphic there!


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Originally Posted by bibo:

Uhm.... I don't know what to say... this is *exactly* what I'm doing! I even made a clip with the same girl that is on top of his list at the moment. Good to see that I'm not the only one who is spending his spare time doing stuff like that. :D


Great minds think alike! lol

I hope you submit your vids to that subreddit — it'd be great to have more than one person submitting. I've thought about making some edits of my own using Premiere. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:

And what happens when you get tired of paying that monthly membership just to look over your “favorites” section only to see that for no reason whatsoever the site dumped some of your favs?


The answer seems obvious to me: Amazon needs to start selling porn and allowing hoarders to download an app that checks their collection, bit for bit, to see if it matches content in Amazon's collection, and give you credit for it if it does and you've purchased a subscription to that site in the past (automatically verifiable through the payment processors).

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Originally Posted by bibo:

Eventually, I grabbed a video editing software and started making small (5 minute or so) clips from the scenes, creating a split screen view, 1/3 of the screen just the girl, fully clothed, chatting away, 2/3 of the screen the best positions and sex scenes, some in slow mo, some not.


My have I got a link for you: https://www.reddit.com/r/CuteModeSlutMode/

Not sure if you are Reddit user, but this is a subreddit entirely dedicated to making and sharing videos exactly like what you describe. It is primarily videos made by one user.

Personally, I think this format could be used to create a sort of interactive split screen video, with the viewer watching the model be interviewed and then being presented with onscreen options to see the sluttier side of her, sometimes related to what is being discussed, other times just to be random and surprising.

As for suggestions for source sites, FTV Girls seems like an obvious choice. For something different, though it might not muster your production quality measure, Gangbang Creampie has before (and sometimes after) interviews which can be starkly contrasting with the depravity that is about to happen. Legal Porno frequently has interviews and has good production qualities, but the interviews aren't always in English (though they do subtitle as needed). "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Ok, against my better judgment, I'll join the hunt.

If it is Brazzers and within the last 6 months, there just aren't that many scenes it could be. So my best guess is this:

Monique's Secret Spa: Part 1 from October 4th, 2016, starring Monique Alexander & Xander Corvus. It's not a perfect match to your description, but there are strong similarities.

If it isn't that, you really need to rack your brain for more details. What did the girl look like? Ethnic/racial background? Hair color? Tattoos or none? Accent? Bust size? Anything?

How about the guy? Same questions other than "Bust size". "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Because there are a lot of ignorant, bigoted, self-righteous people out there that desperately want to tell others who they should be and how they should act. Those who don't follow the mores dictated by "moral majority" are treated with disgust and disdain for being one of "those people".

These are the same people that worried if Harmony Rose should be a volunteer EMT. They weren't even paying her but they were worried that her previous porn career might reflect badly upon the rescue service and that maybe they should stop her from saving other peoples' lives. (Huff-Post)

The unfortunate truth is that there are a lot of morons in the world. I do my best to ignore them and focus on the brilliant and beautiful things being done by that minority, the world's intelligent population, but occasionally you can't help but notice the morons. November 8th, 2016 will forever be one of those times for me. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


First, I subscribe to that time honored American tradition of “I ain't giving up whats I already gots!”. ...we all feed our porn hoarding addiction ... [with] unlimited downloads for a membership of a one fixed price. ...almost no one here would trade their collection for the alternative of having to eat whatever a site chooses to show us each month while offering us the chance to build our collection with a dozen or so downloadables a month.


For me, streaming only fits my viewing habits more these days. I would not say my hoarding days are fully over, but they are drastically subdued for one major reason: Time. I simply cannot dedicate the time needed to look through entire sites every month anymore; nor do I really have the desire to. Every one in a hundred scenes (or more) I connect with a performance and instantly say "I'm going to want to rewatch that!" and that is the one I download. Most of the time, however, I skip through the scenes, check out bits of action that I think will interest me, and move on. Streaming is ideal for this, and it is behavior I used to exhibit before streaming existed, but I would simply do it with fully downloaded scenes and then pop them in the vault because I'd already bothered to download them. Now I can skip the whole downloading step while browsing and only keep the scenes that really grab my attention. Often with sites that I know I'm going to be subscribed to for a long time, I'll just "favorite" the scene without even downloading it.

The hoarding is really just that for a lot of us, the downloaded content isn't being video with any frequency, sometimes not even twice, and I personally don't believe that benefits anybody. I don't want to have to build a huge server to host my content anymore if somebody else will do it for me. I like that scenes are getting better organized, not just by performer name but also with esoteric industry terms and subjective descriptions of body parts. The search engines on these large network sites have never been better. Also, frequently, when I do go back into my archives to look up a particular scene, I'm disappointed when I realize it isn't HD, or it is shorter than I recall, or some other detail that leaves the experience wanting.

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Second, don't confuse the economics of porn with the economics of Hollywood or the music industry. The cost of a porn scene is very little in comparison to the economic and creative costs associated with Hollywood, tv, and the music industry. I have long preached the gospel that porn is just a commodity, a never ending stream of young nameless faceless people grinding away in front of a camera so that our dopamine levels may joyously rise. The price points of, say, a $30 a month stream site with 10 free downloads a month strongly favors the website (assuming no pirating of the stream content, ha-ha) in comparison to what exists now...

I see stream only as an existential threat to what those of us here do. If people like us show a willingness to accept stream only and major flagship porn sites like DDF / 21stSextury and others start to go this way then all of us here are screwed and porn's golden era (Golden Showers Era might be a better name) grinds to a halt. If that happens then the few us who do pay memberships in part to support the industry get hosed and then we either walk away from it or become pirates like so many others.


Firstly: I must point out that I never said $30, and frankly were I to sign up for a streaming only site, I'd expect it to be far cheaper. Netflix is $10 ($12 for 4K), Amazon is $8.25, Hulu is $8 — I'd expect a porn site to be in this range if they are eliminating or limiting downloads.

Secondly, I mostly believe Porn's Golden Era was years ago, not today. If you want to call today Gonzo's Golden Era, that I'd have to agree with. There isn't a fetish you can't find and there's pretty much a continuous stream of it at a rate that is proportional with its obscurity.

I believe the reason for this is the bottom-shelf pricing that porn is budgeted at. Movies use the same sets, the same scripts, the same directions for the performers, over and over again. The sites that do try to come up with plots and characters pretty clearly don't leave much time for rehearsing and usually settle for the take where the performers didn't completely butcher their lines. However if you jump back to the late 70s, there were porn films that were attempting to compete with Hollywood in both ambition and acting. Sure, people were going to have sex on camera, but they were going weave you a story to pull you in. They spent money on costumes and locations, they had scripts that the performers had actually memorized.

I'm one of those optimists that believes that porn, at its heart, is an art form, and denying that hurts both pornography and art in general. There will always be shitty, low budget productions where the sex is all that matters, but it would be nice to see the industry be willing to spend more money than the budget of a typical 1-year-old's birthday party and actually take a risk for the sake of artistic integrity and exploration. Do I expect it to happen anytime soon? No, not really. However stacking the financial gains in the favor of the studios a bit more might lead some producers to start taking those risks again. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Personally I've had good experiences with them, though I've had some bizarre technical difficulties with the network multiple times. Like losing access to Digital Playgrounds, or having my account suddenly say me subscription expired when I had paid for years of subscription. The customer service reps are all in the United States (Las Vegas, I believe) and have been extremely friendly and professional. The technical snafus have been annoying and I really don't like having to call to get my porn repaired, but at least their customer service has been top notch. They will try to up-sell you like crazy though. I believe they work on commission. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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I'd also like to point out that most porn scnes are for the most part not edited or very little is done. That's why a gonzo video that used to last maybe 25-30 minutes now last over 40-45 minutes.


I believe you are right on that, which probably means they are just doing color correction, audio normalization, stabilizing, and removing bloopers / director commentary and that sort of thing.

When editing video, I used to estimate 1 hour of editing for every second of video. I'm better now, so it is more like one hour for every 3 seconds to do a properly good job. I can't imagine editing an hour long video in a day — and I think these folks do just that. I'm sure they are faster than me, but that is still absurdly fast. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Originally Posted by pat362:

The Hollywood comparison is often brought up to shoot down the mandatory condom use and I can see why but it really isn't an accurate one because in fact there are strict OSHA guidelines imposed on Hollywood and the fines are quite high. Why do you think studios buy insurance to cover possible accidents during action sequences? These days many stunts are done post production in CGI because there is no danger of someone being hurt. I'd also like to point out that unlike porn. If a stuntman is hurt than he is the only person but in porn two or more people will in fact be affected.


However, porn in California is covered by OSHA, enforcement is just limited, that is what Prop 60 was trying to address. I guess why I think the Hollywood comparison is apt, and not a typical workplace comparison is that I see porn as a entertainers, not workers. If prostitution was legal in California, making it illegal for Brothels to require condom-free service makes sense. Since they are dealing the public. However, these are pros working with pros in an artistic medium. If they want to take the risk for their art, that is their right, in my opinion. That said, OSHA probably should fine the hell out of producers that have disease outbreaks on condom-free sets, and they should be carrying insurance for just that situation.

Originally Posted by pat362:

The CGI thing is a recurring theme on another forum and the general consensus is that it's not cost efficient for any porn studio to even consider. When you couple that with the amount of hours a technician would have to dedicate to removing the condom and you can see why porn studios will probably never consider it. That is unless the technology gets to be very cheap and quick to do.


It seems to me, at the rate that computers are improving, automated CGI "fixes" like this will be coming along soon. It is amazing what can be done today in realtime, let alone editing that is rendered in post production.

That said, I sometimes forget just how low budget much of the porn productions are. Still, I'd love to see somebody experimenting with this. I don't know how fast the typical porn scene is edited, but I'll bet it is surprisingly quick. (Like days, or even hours, instead of months, or even years for some movies.) "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Can we add MetaverseXXX? Darius mentioned it in his post here. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Man, I really want to buy an Oculus Rift. One of these days...

MetaverseXXX looks very interesting, thanks for that tip! "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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I'm really of two minds on this. The porn hoarder in me wants to have download links and be able to build up my personal collection. I indeed have over a terabyte dedicated to that.

On the other hand, I've been in a situation recently where I haven't had access to that collection because my PC's power supply died and my Mac can't currently read NTFS (I plan on fixing that soon). I have found that I simply am not missing the collection that much.

I look at streaming traditional movies versus purchasing DVDs / BluRays. I used to have a collection of DVDs of around 500 movies. With streaming options, I've whittled that down to around 70 I think. Those films are either very hard to locate, or favorites I watch several times a year.

I've been very happy with the streaming option provided by Netflix for quite sometime, but unfortunately that library seems to be shrinking lately, not growing. So I feel somewhat more secure about purchasing digital titles on Amazon, as I know they'll still be there if I go back to look at them a year later. Maybe this is the format that porn needs to follow: A combination of streaming and digital purchases.

Here's my idea of a fair streaming-only site: A site with streaming capability that also uploads its content on a larger, more stable, "clips" site. When I sign up to their streaming, I get unlimited viewing to their content, but I also get 10 coupons a month that can be redeemed on the clip site to digitally "own" one of their scenes on that site. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


So, if you like trickle down economics I think we're all about to find out how well that works.


It simply amazes me how many times that theory gets to be tested.

It isn't money that is trickling down on the heads of the middle class. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:

That's probably one of the best explanations I've read about how people can lie and believe their own lies.


Thanks — every once in a while my thoughts translate from my noggin into text accurately, lol

Originally Posted by lk2fireone:

Trump probably sincerely believes he's a hero, a man who tells it like it is, and will lead America to greatness again.


I sincerely hope he succeeds and proves all of us nay-sayers wrong. I hope that Donald Trump, by some weird miracle, becomes a great president.

I hope this because, outside of the Electoral College showing off the true power they have, we are stuck with him for the next four years and I'd rather have to admit that I completely misjudged the man and that our economy is better and our foreign relations are intact or even improved, instead of having him prove me right and everything do the opposite. I would rather see my country flourish and have to shake the hand of every Trump voter I meet and admit I voted the wrong way.

Mostly I just hope he doesn't fucking nuke somebody. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Well, that was rather preachy.

I can understand why any performer would only work with condoms, the risks are there, and higher than the industry usually admits. I'd never belittle or boycott them for it. Rebecca Lord comes to mind as a good example of a rockstar performer that made that decision early — did it hurt her career? Probably, but she's enough of a legend that she wasn't stopped by it and is now directing as well as starring. The truth is that it's a personal decision that every performer should take great care in making.

That said, the industry is in the business of selling fantasy. I see the call for condoms the same as legally requiring Hollywood stunt performers to wear a helmet and joint pads in all scenes. Nobody wants to see Jason Bourne strapping on pads in the middle of his spontaneous chase sequence. We assume that the stunt performers are skilled professionals that are well informed of the risks they are taking. Occasionally one of them dies and we mourn their loss.

If you want to argue that porn isn't properly informing its stars of the risks they are taking, that's fair. They probably aren't, and they definitely should be. That said, a lot of the stars do know of the risks and they keep taking them. It's up to them to come to that decision on their own and not for the state to force it upon them.

A side note:
I wonder if anyone has explored using CGI to digitally erase condoms? We already know that much of porn is faked (like many cum shots), it seems like a condom could be printed with a computer friendly pattern on it and then CGI could automatically erase it from the scene using a texture built from photos of the lead actor's unsheathed penis. This would be a nice "best of both worlds" scenario. This could also open the door for CGI enhanced "impossible" sex feats like inhumanly enlarged members and such. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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I would say the firstly that I doubt Trump personally has any hatred about porn, he's been on Playboy TV and similar venues before. Not to mention how often he's been on Howard Stern.

Secondly, the one thing that may be beneficial to all of us who call USA home and did not vote for Trump is that he has a long record of not honoring his promises, so I doubt he cares that he promised tons of crazy things to the Christian-Right in hopes to woo them. Before his political aspirations, he was pretty liberal on a lot of things, like being outspokenly Pro-Choice. That said, he also was a racist from a young age, so I'm very worried about persons of color — this may be a very difficult 4 years for them.

Frankly, the biggest problem with Donald Trump is that because he lies basically constantly, I don't think anybody knows what he's going to do. I'm including Trump himself. I think he believes in himself and his gut-reactions, and believes that he will make the right decision at the time. I don't think he likes plans much as I think he sees them as restrictive. I believe the man feels he needs flexibility to say and do whatever he wants, whenever he wants. What scares me most is that he is unpredictable. It will be interesting to see what priorities Donald Trump puts on the top of the list come January. I'm guessing that it won't be the ones people are predicting. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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This may be some of the only good news to come out of yesterday. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Hah! That's clever! Suddenly VR Goggles make a lot more sense to me.

I've been using podcasts to keep me interested in exercising, pretty successfully. I've been catching up on "The Adventure Zone" by listening to an episode each day while exercising. I'm about to run out of that pod cast though, so I need to switch to something else soon, maybe your solution would work! "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Originally Posted by exotics4me:


But since Tom Waits name came up, you all should check out this band from Kansas that cover Tom's "Make it Rain". We saw them a few weeks ago. Absolutely was floored by the singer's energy and charisma, kind of makes me sick that they'll probably never get any kind of mainstream coverage. Name is The Midnight Ghost Train. I was very impressed for an obvious metal band to make such a good cover of a Tom Waits song.


That's awesome! I'll have to look into them more. Thanks for the tip!

If you are a big Tom Waits fan, I highly recommend checking out Ben Caplan if you haven't yet. He's a Canadian singer/songwriter that is certainly influenced by Waits, but is very much doing his own thing. My brother got to see him live and said he was amazing. Here is his YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/bencaplanmusic "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


Your link leads to: The page you requested was not found.


Not sure what happened there, the forum was trying to treat the link like it was on the PornUsers.com url, very odd. I think it is fixed now, but as you said, there are a number of versions of Wait's performance on YouTube, I just picked the first one Google suggested.

Originally Posted by lk2fireone:

As far as Hilary Clinton, my personal opinion, is that many politicians are professional liars. It just goes with the territory.

Harry Truman is one of the few politicians I can respect.
He was not in the game to make a personal fortune, but to do the best job he could for the people.


Truman was a good guy, no doubt.

My main point was that there is a big difference between Hillary and Donald. That said, I was a Bernie guy. I knew he wouldn't make it, but he made it closer than I would've guessed. I would've loved to see that old Socialist running my country. Maybe there is a younger Bernie clone out there somewhere... "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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Eh, she's not wrong.

Plus it is hardly the best of the Disney movies. Though I do like the Tom Waits' version of the dwarves' "Heigh-ho" song.

They are products of their time. Dumbo was hellah racist. Even the Lion King was kinda racist (the jackals were pretty obviously black caricatures). I like the Little Mermaid, but even that has problems. Probably Tangled is the only one without significant issues.

Originally Posted by lk2fireone:

Trump is a bigot.
Clinton is a liar.
Who's the better choice?


Clinton is by far and away the better choice.

Firstly: Who doesn't lie from time to time?

Secondly: All politicians lie by the nature of their job. We need them to, to some degree.

Thirdly: The fucking email thing is more that she is an absurd luddite and her staff (and our government in general) are disturbingly incompetent. Listen to this segment on This American Life to hear about how Hillary can't use a desktop computer, doesn't want to carry two phones (which is what everyone else in Washington does), and needs her staff to buy old phones on eBay just so she can check and respond to her email without having to learn a new phone. In short, she's a grandma that never learned to use that interwebs thing.

Lastly: Say what you want about her husband, Hillary isn't a sexual predator, an unapologetic bigot, and a uninformed blowhard that likes to pretend to be in the "Billionaires Club". She is, however, a talented civil rights lawyer, an experienced Senator, a former Secretary of the State, and a first-hand witness to two presidencies. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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11-01-16  02:41pm - 2972 days #2
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My heart goes out to Khan and his family, I hope they find some peace in all this and know that he was loved and respected by everyone that crossed his path. He has always presented a calm demeanor and set the culture that made this forum the civil and respectful place it is. I hope this forum continues for decades more and maintains that welcoming and courteous spirit Khan imbued it with. He will be missed by all the members here!

May James Tiberius Kirk yell out his name one last time:
KHAAANN!!! "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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10-25-16  08:52pm - 2979 days #9
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Don't forget Pumpkinhead ! 👻

"You're a fool, Ed Harley." "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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10-17-16  10:26am - 2987 days #7
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In my experience, there's often a small text link on the Join page before you are sent to the biller that says something along the lines of: "Problems joining with your credit card? Try these alternate payment methods." which then takes you to the selection of their alternate billers, whichever ones those may be. As previously suggested, emailing the webmaster is often a good solution too. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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10-17-16  10:22am - 2987 days #2
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Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I hadn't heard about it, but the photo cards certainly are enticing! "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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10-14-16  01:00pm - 2990 days #6
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I'm still surprised when I run across folks using Yahoo! Mail. It might as well be Hotmail in my book. I've been running Gmail for over a decade (actually I use two Gmail accounts right now). I technically have a Yahoo! account, but that is simply because I need for access to some Yahoo! Groups.

All that said, I have no guarantee that Google hasn't done the same thing. So far, Apple is the only corporation that has made a big point about standing up for its user's privacy rights in regards to the government. Ironically, it was crap security in Apple's iCloud that lead to the so-called "hacks" behind "The Fappening" awhile back.

The short of it is that I'm not doing anything illegal, so I assume anything I do electronically isn't secure. It shouldn't be that way, but my default assumption is that it is. So don't go making bomb-threat jokes to your friends, lol "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"

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