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11-04-08  06:41pm - 5994 days #11
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


That reminds me of another, but it was even better. DDF Productions offered a 2008 New Year's "gift" of a free month's access to another site, of one's own choosing, when you joined. So the essential point is that things can be set up to allow the user to choose the sites. 21st Sextury could do that, if only they were willing.


I remember that offer because I joined Hands on Hardcore and got 1 by Day included with my membership. I learned of it through PU. Long live the Brown Coats.
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11-02-08  06:19pm - 5996 days #16
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Location: canada 		I can't think of single review site that has or had more than one reviewer for each site. TBP usually has four voices and PU has so many more. I think that was the one quality that attracted me to TBP's reviews. When I first started visiting TBP. I made it a point to always read the highest and the lowest score. This way I could better judge the reason for the score. Long live the Brown Coats.
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11-02-08  06:10pm - 5996 days #17
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


I think the idea of self censorship by voluntarily boycotting certain sites or web product is no longer realistic. There are 6.5 billion people on the earth today. While most would be happy to just have running water and electricity that still leaves billions who with little expertise and little money the ability to post whatever the hell they want on the net. The net is really the biggest democratizing tool, aka open public forum, in history. As a result, you get a lot of crap posted by a lot of stupid people which is in turn viewed by many people with countless motiviations for doing so.

As a result we're going to have to deal with extreme porn and whatever else for quite some time to come. You can either regulate it in which case you have the government looking over your shoulder and end up with a Chinese style internet. If you don't regulate it, you have pretty much what we have today. The result is that the sick and twisted will still have their day. We can choose to look or not but it will still be there lurking on the fringes of net because some is almost always going to be looking.


You are correct that my idea of self-censorship is at best a dream, but I can still hope that it becomes a reality.
Whenever people can't control themselves then it forces governments to do it for them. The intervention is often in the form of a law. Long live the Brown Coats.
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11-01-08  07:34pm - 5997 days #4
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Location: canada 		Although I like the idea behind a loyalty reward system.
You should know ahead of time what you are going to get for your money and how long it's going to take you to get it.
The reward program offered by 21Sexcentury is maybe one of the best. It's biggest faults are that you do not know which site you are getting except the one you are joining. It's only once you've joined their network that they then give you a list of the other sites and the number of days left before they become available at no cost. I joined their network twice and both times the package of sites was diffferent. Long live the Brown Coats.
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11-01-08  07:01pm - 5997 days #13
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


People seem to search out the stuff someone says they should not watch. Any time you hear about a video from somewhere that makes the news it gets pulled from places like youtube, but people then seek it elsewhere when normally they would have never cared about it. I guess it is a desire to be"in the circle" of people who know what it is others are talking about.(see #1)


Pat is very right, these guys are completely stupid. I wonder if they ended up regretting doing these things the next day? (see #2)


I still hold in my belief that if you do not want to see something you simply do not seek it out. This kind of thing is not something you find just anywhere on the internet.(see #3)


As for the censorship, I am tending to the side that making videos of this should not be viewed as illegal, but perhaps the actual activity should be considered, of course then someone would just say it is their religion. Video websites have the option of not showing this type of thing, so I believe censorship can be left to the people to decide on themselves and no legal intervention is needed in this case.(see #4)

The question still remains unanswered though. What would possess a people to willing slice themselves open? Perhaps these people do not even know themselves. One answer might be they are just looking to shock people. Okay, I am shocked, but my penis is still in one piece, theirs is not. So after the shock subsides it ends up being pointless unless for some self gratification that 99.99% of us could never understand.(se #5)


1-Thus giving ideas to other idiots who see the attention that video got, to do even worse.

2-Sadly no, since there were 2 Jackasses movie, and these were preceeded by the TV show.

3-I agree with you 100%. No one forces you to visit certain sites and certainly no one forces you to look at a video file.

4-I go back to my theory that if no one watches these things then people will stop making these videos. This is called self-censorship.

5-I don't know the answer, but I like your idea that they don't know themselves. Sadly self-mutilation will not enlighten them on their inner-self except to realise that a good part of their inner self is really stupid. Long live the Brown Coats. Edited on Nov 01, 2008, 07:07pm
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10-31-08  06:19pm - 5998 days #49
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Don't I know it! You wouldn't believe how much I had to delete to make room on my hard drive for the latest HD Videos from FTV Girls and "In The Crack!" :-) Is there another ISP you could turn to or do they all limit downloads in your area?


I have amazing speed with my cable internet, and I'm affraid to take a chance on a telephone line. Not to mention that I believe whichever service I pick will have an allowed maximum download per month. I'm more careful now and make sure not to exceed 100G. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-30-08  07:26pm - 5999 days #47
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Boy, I'm glad I don't live where you live! My ultra highspeed costs $ 49.00 with no limitations as to how much I can download over a given period. At least not yet!

There's always the possibility that they might take a look at Rogers' business model (if it is Rogers) and say: hmm, 100 Gigs, that's not a bad idea! :-)


I have Videotron cable internet, and until late last year I had unlimited downloads. Trust me when I say that 100G gets used up really quickly when you are downloading HD stuff. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-30-08  07:22pm - 5999 days #7
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Location: canada 		I like to visit a site called gorillamask.net and he often has links of idiots trying some extreme sports. I use the terms idiot and try because based on his description they fail. I see the links, but never visit them. If someone sent me a link of people self mutilating themselves then I wouldn't visit it, for the same reason that I don't visit the gorilla mask links. Life is too short for me to waste even a second of mine watching some stupid people doing stupider and stupider things. My definition of a stupid person is anyone who knowingly does something that can and probably will endanger his or life for an obscure reason.
I'd classify every performer in the Jackass movies as really stupid people.

I can't say that I'm not curious, because that would be a lie. I just choose to censor myself of certain contents.
I never watched 2 girls and a cup. I read about it, and part of me was really curious to see if it was real, but at the end of the day I came up with a good reason for not watching it. Would those 2 girls have done what they did if they knew that no one would watch it? Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-29-08  07:08pm - 6000 days #45
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Maybe I'm just naive but I don't really see how ISP's profit that much from porn. They just provide the gateway to the net. It's the search engines and referral sites that get the "hit" or signup money from porn sites. I suppose there might be a drop in broadband subscriptions if porn sites were blocked but I doubt it would impact their bottom line too much.

I only see ISP's getting up in arms if somehow they would be held liable for people getting access to inappropriate porn sites. To my knowledge, no Western countries have ever gone that far before (the new british law doesn't either).


It's probably true that for the most part ISP's do not get direct money from porn, but I'm pretty sure that a fair amount of their customers use their service to surf for porn. I know, I do. If tomorrow, I can no longer surf porn because every site is blocked, then I will cancel my ultra hi-speed service and get regular speed. To give you an idea ultra hi-speed is about 70$ while regular is 20$. How many businesses can afford to lose 65% of their profit? Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-29-08  07:00pm - 6000 days #44
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


Is the "allowed download capacity" imposed by the Canadian government or by your ISP?


Most of the sites with the highest amount of activity on the web are porn sites so any limits placed on access to those sites will hit the political contributors the hardest. Given the sorry state of politics these days, I suspect that any attempts at access restrictions or prohibitions will be seriously resisted by the politicians who rely on the contributors to survive.


The download capacity is a way for my ISP to make a major killing. MY ISP offers multiple internet access speeds and with each level you are allocated a specific amount of download Gigs. I used to have regular hi-speed, but I was always downloading above my quota and therefore got a surcharge. They came up with an Ultra Hi-Speed deal where for a higher fee you had unlimited download. You can imagine how many people took them up on the offer, and just as suddenly they decided that they were changing the contract to max 100Gig per month.

I hope someone can correct me but I'd be very surprised to think that porn sites get the most traffic. I'd aggree that the most downloaded material after music is porn, but that's because major Hollywood studios don't yet offer online mainstream movies. I visit more mainstream sites than porn ones.

Many mainstream industries make money from porn. The one that comes to mind right now is hotel chains. I wonder how much money is made from streaming porn movies in hotels? Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-29-08  08:57am - 6000 days #40
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Location: canada 		ISP's can choose which sites they will allow and which ones they will filter. Of course once you start to limit access to you customers then in return your customers are going to look for other ISP's. I don't know if people will buy extra hi-speed internet for email and regular surfing? I don't use my hi-speed for only porn, but the reason I went hi-speed as oppose to medium is because I get a higher allowed download capacity. Even with hi-speed I still sometimes go over my limit.

I can guarantee that when the Government starts to put pressure on ISP's to filter certain sites, and in return it affects the ISP's profit. There will be some major players putting pressure on Government to back off. Lets not kid ourselves. Many of the owners of ISP's are big name industries. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-29-08  07:54am - 6001 days #5
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Ya know ppl,
This always gets to me, if you are watching porn and the alternative is to nail your neighbor, um I think that that study should include that LOL.

In my twisted mind I think porn helps fedelity more then hurts.
If a person is not getting what they need from a spouse, would you rather wait until they get enough balls to go after another person, or spank the monkey and get on with life?

Now porn stars well thats a different issue altogther as they are naiing the nieghbor LOL


I couldn't agree more. I'd rather a guy surf the net and jacks off to a fantasy, then decide to nail one of his
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10-28-08  07:19pm - 6001 days #3
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Location: canada 		The study is flawed since the researchers states that some of the people lied about their answers, so how can you then come up with actual numbers for the study. I'm willing to agree that porn can be a factor, but so could the fact that your significant other is hooked on World of Warcraft. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-28-08  07:07pm - 6001 days #37
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:



I wonder is this will lead to the UK monitoring website traffic to supposedly extreme sights early next year?


It's strange that you mention that because last night I read an article that some Australian senators want to force ISP providers to ban all internet porn in Australia.
see link: http://www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=30947 Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-26-08  12:24pm - 6003 days #4
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Location: canada 		I'm going to assume that we are talking about gonzo style porn, since I don't remeber seeing this in a feature. It's funny how taste vary. I actualy like it when they look at the camera. For the exact reasons that Badandy said. It's even better if she's talking dirty. This post has just given me an amazing idea for a new interactive line
of dvds(Personalized audio). You could have your favorite actress using your name in various POV style scenes.

I really don't like when the girls look to the side for directions from the producer or director. Now that breaks the illusion real fast. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-25-08  09:38am - 6004 days #2
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Location: canada 		Hi nygiants03. You forgot to mention your favorite movies
or studios. That might help us narrow down your tastes.

Here is a list of the studios from which I have bought movies. They aren't in any specific order.

Girlfriends films: They produce only Lesbian material with a recuring older/younger theme. There is a storyline with each scene, actual dialogue, foreplay, undressing, kissing and from time to time strap-ons.

JM Productions: Let me say that their older stuff was in my opinion much better. A significant amount of what they produce has anal in it. As well there is often a kind of coercions theme and their performers are mostly 18-25yrs.

Evil Angel: This studio has way too many directors and themes for me to describe. I'd recommend you visit their site and judge for yourself. http://evilangel.com/home

Diabolic/Anabolic:I must say again that their older stuff was way better. Eventhough these are 2 different studios, they are for all intense and purposes the same. Their themes are usually raunchy sex with emphasis on anal, dp, creampie or gangbang. They often have International stars in their movies.

Elegant Angel: In many ways they have similar movies to Evil Angel except that their older stuff was much better.
Look for series like Sodomania, Cumback Pussy, Bottom Dweller, and others.

Marc Dorcel: The king of French Porn. There is always a storyline and the sex is a mixture of raunchy and soft.

VCX, VCR, Video X Pix, Hollywood Video, CDI, Caballero, Cal Vista(I'm sure I'm forgetting some): These are the studios for porn made from the 70's to late 80's. There are some lemons, but then again there are some classic that have yet to be equalled. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-25-08  08:41am - 6005 days #14
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Location: canada 		if you're the type of person who only downloads what he or she will watch right away, but could afford to join more sites and download for future use. What do you do now that times are more difficult, we are likely headed for a recession(if not already there) and frankly porn is more a luxury than gas or food? Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-24-08  07:06pm - 6005 days #40
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


Was about 700.00 US three transfers in 98 last was there.
Ontario ( northbay)


That was expensive for 98, but worse is those 3 transfers. I balk at one transfer. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-24-08  07:04pm - 6005 days #39
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Ah Nova Scotia, some people say it reminds them of Scotland - strange isn't? :-D I've yet to travel that far east in Canada, despite my Grandparents having lived there for a time (mid 80's I think). The thing they missed most from there was the access to the fresh fish - a rather food oriented family we are, lol


If you love seafood and were used to it being less than a week old, then it would give you feelings of longing.
For most of us the term fresh when discussing seafood is an oxymoron.

At least if decide to visit Montreal then you won't be disapointed by the variety, quantity, availability, and prices. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-23-08  06:39pm - 6006 days #28
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Hi pat362, that's why I was mentioning "the mountains!" I did have Banff, Lake Louise etc. in mind when I wrote that. Trouble is I live in the Maritimes and except for Quebec City, Montreal, Toronto, Winnipeg what is there between here and there that would make for an interesting trip?

And when it comes to flying directly to Alberta, Europe is actually closer to us and is a clear winner with my wife. She can't see where mountains are any good if they don't have a cluster of charming chalets and medieval towns at their feet. :-)


I have to agree that Eastern Canada to Calgary is a very long trip, and probably quite expensive to fly there. I sometimes forget just how big Canada is. We want to drive across Confederation bridge next summer. It's kind of embarassing to say that I've nver been to PEI or NB. I've met people from there and the general consensus has always been that they are the nicest people you will ever meet. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-23-08  06:33pm - 6006 days #26
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


lol - I heard that when they were filming 300 in Montreal, Gerard Butler could be found at the strip clubs every night


I can only speak from hear say, but I'm told that there some pretty kinky things that happen in Montreal Strip Clubs. A warning or suggestion, but be careful if you mention that it's your birthday. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-23-08  02:44pm - 6006 days #22
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Tell the truth, I have no great desire to take a vacation in Canada either, there's too many miles of bush and wheat to traverse in order to get where I really long to be: The Mountains! And my SO doesn't particularly care for those either because she's seen the Alps, together with romantic Swiss chalets and quaint medieval towns and, in her mind, nothing will ever beat that!


I can't speak from experience because I've never been to Europe but you have to admit that Lake Louise is in one word: BREATHTAKING. It may not compare to the ASlps, but then again the Cdn$ isn't fairing well againt the Euro either. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-23-08  02:40pm - 6006 days #21
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


w00t - now I have even more incentive to visit Montreal some more!

Oh and um, that would be bad for your vacations I suppose, but who wants to visit the US anyway? Why not go to the Caribbean or something? :-D


I don't know if you are a fan of strip clubs and such, but your dollar is going to go way further that it has in 3yrs.
If notm then you can enjoy some amazing restaurants Long live the Brown Coats. Edited on Oct 23, 2008, 02:45pm
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10-22-08  07:01pm - 6007 days #14
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Originally Posted by messmer:


Yes, you're right, other currencies are suffering as well as prudent investors turn to the one safe bet in uncertain times: the U.S. Dollar. Seems a bit ironic since most of the mess was caused by Wall Street. :-) Ah, well, what goes down must come back up .. I'll just have to exercise some patience and keep my eyes open for specials. And I'll have you know that I didn't vote Conservative so don't anyone in Canada blame me for the dollar's dive! :-)


You guys had to talk about the dollar going down. Well thank You, now it's below 80 cents US. Actually it's great news for Canadians Businesses. The high value of our dollar doesn't help our trade, nor does it help to get Americans to come up to Canada for vacations or for studios to choose Canada to film their movies.

It does suck for anyone wanting to go on vacation in the US or to buy anything in US dollars. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-22-08  06:55pm - 6007 days #47
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Location: canada 		I'd like to thank Cybertoad for an amazing subject. It's true that it can get boring talking about boobs and butts all the time. It's strange that through out the entire discussion no one has brought out the fact that pornstars have been using the name of the Lord/God far more times than they have worn somekind of religious artifact. The Oh God (insert phrase)is utered all the time in porn. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-21-08  07:21pm - 6008 days #26
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


You wanted it, you got it. Actually the Pythagorean Theorem (a2 + b2 = c2 -- sorry I don't remember offhand how make the little squared function work) has little to do with either of Einstein's models: general relativity and special relativity. Special relativity (E=mc2) is a mass/energy equivalence theory that fundamentally presupposes that everything is relative depending on the location or observations of the observer and the object in motion. Given the high amount of relativity Einstein would actually question the accuracy of the pythagorean theorem if the triangle itself were in motion. Einstein, borrowing from Newton, would probably also note that once Carmella Bing's boobs are put into motion they will stay in motion until equal and opposing force of manmeat stops their motion.

General relativity is based upon the idea that gravity is a property of spacetime. Most of the equations in this area are nonlinear and have little relation to standard mathematical principals. Although if the P. theorem were really applicable it would be more so under general relativity than in special relativity.


Going back on topic, I'm more of the idea that the cross/crucifix thing is more of a fashion statement or that it's worn for less than truly religious reasons as a general rule.


I'm take my hat off to you sir on the eloquence of your statements.

I would had that if Einstein had seen Carmellas boobs in motion he would gladly have voluntered to show her his theories on the Big Bang. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-20-08  07:06pm - 6009 days #11
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Originally Posted by WeeWillyWinky:


Just to clarify something here: I was speaking of whether pregnancy is sexy or not in a general way, and not as it applies to porn. I have zero interest in watching pregnant women having sex.


It was bound to happen when you bring up the subject of sexy and pregnant women on a porn forum. We all assume that you meant something other than what you did. That's why I should never assume anything.

For future reference pregnant women are not sexy they just glow with life. It probably means the same thing but it sounds way better. Not to mention but when they are in their last trimester and sexy truly no longer applies, glow still does. Take this as a warning, when your wife who's 7 months pregant if she's still sexy. The correct reply is you glow honey. It will save you so many long and cold night on the sofa. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-20-08  06:57pm - 6009 days #9
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


Seems I have some radical ideas about anything involving religion. So, I'm playing it safe and not jumping in with both feet on this one because it might get ugly. But I do want to chime in with the fact that a cross is in no way related to Judaism. It's a symbol for Christianity.


As Toadsith said the cross and variation of it precede Christianity by many many years. In fact Christians don't actually worship crosses but instead worship a crucufix, which is a cross with the depiction of Jesus on it. Now you can argue, if you want that most of todays crosses are the domain of Christians.

I could be wrong on this one, but as far as I know all Christians are in fact Judeo-Christians because we all read the New Testament and the old Testament, and there are no Christians in the old testament. Long live the Brown Coats.
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Location: canada 		I haven't been paying all that much attention, but for argument sake I will assume that you mean the standard Judeo-Christian cross as oppose to a variation of the Egyptian Ankh sysmbol. If that is the case then I believe it's more a fashion icon then an actual sign of their faith. I don't think Madonna wore a cross through a large part of her career because of her strong Christian belief, because if that were the case I don't believe she would be following this new Kabbalah religion. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-18-08  11:22am - 6011 days #3
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Location: canada 		I tend to stay clear of Quicktime. If it weren't for Apple, I think that Quicktime would have disapeared a long time ago. WMP and DIVX are my favortite. I find that whenever I see Divx the video are usually HD or of a much higher quality than most other formats. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-18-08  11:17am - 6011 days #3
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Location: canada 		Lez Cuties and a few others that you automatically get access to with that membership. I'm working on a review for that site and a couple of others as well. There is a lot of content to review. Long live the Brown Coats.
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Location: canada 		I don't know if it will make her sexier, but I would tend to doubt it. One thing I'm sure is that it won't make her less sexy. Now if your question is whether I'd like to see said woman in an obvious degree of pregnacy say at anything above 4 months engaging in intercourse, then my answer is NO. Oh God NO. That is one fetish that has no appeal for me at all. Long live the Brown Coats.
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any amount below 30$ as acceptable for a single site. The price below that 30$, should be based on the amount and the quality of content offered by that site. any thing above 30$ is aceptable for a network acess.

There are dozens of sites that are on my wish list. Their content looks really good, but I'm just not sure I want to spend the money on them. At some point the content will simply make it impossible not to join. I don't think I'll ever be in a position to join more than 2 sites per month simply because with the advent of HD, and my being limited to 100G max monthly download. I do not wish to pay for the site and then pay my internet provider for overdownloading. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-14-08  07:16pm - 6015 days #24
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For the guy who's legacy is going to be 1) Bankrupting the country for at least a generation without anything to show for it; 2) Destabilizing the US military and foreign policy for years to come; and 3) Destroying his party for the next decade, he should just disappear. His biography, for which I'm sure he'll receive a CEO sized advance, should probably be titled "Ass-F*cked: How I Gave To and Left America". Of course, his bio title has as many options as the bad porn titles tossed out in this thread.

But for every moment of dispair there is opportunity. What W needs a serious image makeover. I'm thinking he should take the lead in colonizing Mars or the Moon (I take that back, don't want him screwing up any more planets). OK, instead he should be made permanent ambassador to Zimbabwe as you can't screw up that place any more (I take that back as that place has nothing but potential and we don't need to permanetly piss off a continet at us). OK, instead he should make You Tube infomercials talking about the dinosaur / caveman wars and how pornography ruined his plans for America (I take that back that would just be obsece and as Max Hardcore knows, that'll land you in prison and I don't want my tax dollars paying for W and Max to be prison shower buddies). OK, maybe he should just disappear ....

(All apologies to Cybertoad for taking his thread on a wide ranging diversion here).


I think he will simply start spending the millions he's been accumulating with those backroom petroleum deals.

At least he's guaranteed a place in history. Probably not the one he would have wanted. Afterall he is the only known president to have taken the bountry from a surplus to half a Trillion in deficit. Long live the Brown Coats. Edited on Oct 15, 2008, 06:56pm
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Location: canada 		I've never joined either of these sites but for a perverse reason, I keep track of their updates as well as the all other sites at : http://www.indexxxed.com . I keep hoping that they'' create somekind of network that will allow access to a couple of their sites. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-12-08  06:26pm - 6017 days #31
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Cheers
Just so I've got your complete view on this at least...

What's the LARGEST a watermark can be before its a pain?

What's the best position for it? Bottom right seems most popular?


I don't mind too much the use of water marks. It's preferable to DRM's. If the water mark is the kind that's see through then it can take maybe 10% of the screen on either the bottom right or bottom left. If on the other hand it's in a bright color then it has to be less than 10%. A good rule is if the water mark distracts from the action then it's too big, too bright or really badly placed. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-08-08  07:35pm - 6021 days #10
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That piece is nice and nostalgic, but it hardly states that the industry is in any form of financial trouble. While I admit that I like older porn a bit more than most modern porn, I don't think anyone can argue that the industry isn't stronger today than it was yesterday. The aesthetic of the industry has changed quite a bit over the years, especially in the past 20 years.

Yet in the same manner, so has Hollywood - editing, lighting, camera work, diction - it has all changed drastically. I love the old films, a number of my favorite films are 50 or more years old - but I don't want to transport back to that era - when special effects was often a bag of flour. The culture has changed and what we expect from movies has changed - but cinema is a very young art form. I think we will see returns to old styles when they come in fashion and new styles, unthinkable to us now, will arise as well.

Perhaps at some point a large studio will decide to fund a talented director with a big vision for a porn film - and classic, movie-grade porn will return again, in some new form. It is something to hope for, and with the amount of money this industry is making, I shall dare to hope that it is not far off. So I say we shouldn't curse the success of the industry's current doctrine of fast, cheap and out of control. It may indeed be the very vessel for the return of cinematic art to pornography.


I'm in my 40's so I remember a time when special effects were called "special", partly because you had to pretend you didn't see the wires or the stop motion. You know what I also remember about those movies. The content had to be number one because they couldn't rely on special effects to dazzle us. That isn't the case with most movies today. All flash and no susbstance. Hell, a CGI Chihuahua movie made 29,000,000$ on the weekend. You tell me that 5yrs from now, a single person will remember that cinematic masterpiece.

I don't think the porn industry is stronger today as much as there is just more of it. There is more porn being produced in a month than was done in a year. A large part is the fact that once upon a time you filmed on celluloid and that was expensive. Not everyone could afford it. Today you can buy a camera and off you go making gonzo porn.

That is one of the reasons why I think that porn is in trouble. There used to be 3 TV networks CBS, NBC, and ABC. For decades they ruled the airwaves. You could argue that they are still relevant, but I don't think you can say that they are still top dog. In many ways the same can be said for porn studios. I've seen over half a dozen top ranking porn studios disapear just in the last year.

Can you name me 3 porn movies from the last 5-10 yrs that you still enjoy? Could you name 3 from 10+ ago?

I don't think you need a large budget to make good porn. You only need a idea and the talent to make it happen. I think the first is covered, but that second one will need some serious help. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-08-08  07:04pm - 6021 days #13
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See the problem is that when the gas price goes up we pay for it many times over again. Not only do we pay for it when we buy gas but we also pay more for other goods.

Also, we need to care about their fortune because if the market completely crashes nobody produces, buys or sells anything. I am not going to give you a can of corn for $100,000 if I do not believe that money is worth anything more than the paper it is printed on. If the market crashes the dollar becomes meaningless and banks foreclose on homes. Suddenly someone who owes $100,000 on a home needs to pull $8,000,000 out of their ass just to keep of the streets.

Point is, we are all affected, just some more than others. And, some are more willing to look than others.


I believe that the price of fuel is the most influencial factor in the cost of living, since no matter what you do for a living. A part of your daily salary goes toward fuel in one form or another.

My point is that the farmer who's cost of living has gone up by "x" amount due to fuel surcharges is not going to make more money if traders decide that his crop should be traded at a loss because they want to make money on it.
The main reason why all of us are suffering right now with the high price of gas is because every aspect of the production of fuel is traded. As fas as I know there has not been a shortage of gas at any time this year, but we are still paying a high price at the pump.

I appologize if my earlier statement appeared as though I didn't care about people loosing their jobs. My statement was more about the fact that I don't believe a single human being is worth 25,000,000$, so whenever I read or hear that a Wall Street executive just made that kind of money for his or her hard work. It kind of irritates me.

Isn't one of the problem with the housing market the fact that banks lent money to people to buy houses they could never afford on their salary? If someone makes 30,000$ a year and goes to the bank and ask for a 500,000$ loan for a house. Don't you think the bank should say, sorry sir but that amount is beyond your capability to payback. I'm going to go on a stretch and say that in our parents time you would never have gotten that kind of loan. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-08-08  06:28pm - 6021 days #11
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Ok thank you all for your replies, very informative. It seems like one of the justifications is that the liberty we enjoy may be taken away. I&#65533;m an expat in the Middle East & there is nothing liberal about this place. There is a total ban on porn or anything that may show just a little extra flesh. Many magazines on the shelf have big black marker scribbles over everything they think is a exposing a little too much. In fact it&#65533;s rather funny. The internet service providers block everything that may be a little revealing let alone porn. The good thing is the internet is fast and cheap and unlimited so a good VPN will do the trick. I&#65533;m literally downloading 24/7. The point I&#65533;m making is that if the climate becomes more conservative in the US or anywhere else people we&#65533;ll find a way as I have in the Middle East.


The more you try to ban something the more people will want it. That's what happened back in the 30's with the US prohibition on Alcohol. If you try to ban or limit porn then I guarantee you will simply make it more desirable. It's just plain human nature to want what we don't or can't have.

We fantasize about exotic places and beautiful people. I don't think too many people fantasize about their great job, and the beautiful people at work. Long live the Brown Coats.
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Location: canada 		Not to disagree with any of you gentlemen, but take a look at the following. It's someones reasoning of why porn is in trouble. It's based on a article called "Rude Awakening" written in the Financial Times. I actually agree with everything that he says.

The problem is that the DVD pros are not offering anything drastically different than what the freebie web amateurs are doing. Back in the glory days of porn you had real people auteurs who used porn as cinematic experiment and not an excuse for visual shock and awe. They told stories revolving around actual plots and storylines and not just E fast good net clips.

Today many stars have the brain of Sarah Palin or wood of Dan Quayle while most GenX bohemian directors brought up on Hip Hop and Jackass are mainly interested in shooting Xers inspired by drug trips instead of adult evolution. In a gangsta age where violence and death is a cultural political statement, porn's target consumer is evil-is-hip bad ass libido.

This country is over. The Nov election between young Uncle Tom and old Toy Soldier is a reality puppet show. The top 1% sold us out to Chang, Mohammed and Schlomo. Won't somebody make a Cafe Flesh for the 21st century before our end days? Or do porn's old school legends have to end their comfy hasbeen retirement in an impromptu comeback?

Legit media takeoff material and group circus content is no longer cute or trendy. We need to cross over to earn sustainance and gain respect. Who will make a REAL FILM WITH SEX IN IT again rather than the same hardbody airhead fluff for vicarious voyeurs, fetish fans and harlot haters? It's so bad, in the last decade fan jerkoffs have taken over smut media.

The last mainstream Oscar winner featured a 2 hour killing spree metaphor for our Orwellian times. Can't we do better than that with orgasms to save the jizz biz? Let's tell less is more filmic bedtime stories that send messages beyond the ins and outs. If we can't we deserve to go out of business or resort to live sex shows in the pervert peekeasy shadows. Long live the Brown Coats.
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10-07-08  06:46pm - 6022 days #5
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Location: canada 		It's true that we all download GIG's upon GIG's of content but a large part of that is because there is so much available material and most of it is crap. We are like modern treasure seekers. Looking for that elusive pearl of amazing porn that makes all the hardship worth it.

It's also true that none of us know what the future of internet porn is going to be like. Will we get more Government involvement? Will the recession put a major squeeze on producers? Will the fact that every Tom, Dick and Harry with a camera now thinks he's the Cecil B Demile of porn(look up the name if unknown to you)? Long live the Brown Coats.
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Location: canada 		Since I'm not in the league of joining multiple sites per month. I'm more like 1 and on a rare occasion 2 sites per month, then I'll pretty much keep on doing what I've been doing. As for the recession, maybe I live in a bubble but I do not know a single person who's been affected by this so called recession. The price of gas at the pump as been a bigger problem then anything currently happening.

No offense but I couldn't give a flying F..K if people on Wall Street lost their entire fortune tomorrow because of their unbelievable greed. I read an article today that said that execs at AIG spent 440,0000,00 on a retreat to a very expensive Los Angeles Hotel one week after getting an 85 Billons bail out package from the Government. Long live the Brown Coats.
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Location: canada 		I'd recommend you take a look at www.iafd.com. As far as I know it's the only site which offers filters to narrow your search. Another good site is egafd.com for all European movies. Read reviews of the movies that seem appealing to you and if you find a director or studio that seems to produce more of what you like than keep track of their movies.

P.S: If you can name a few movies that you really like than I'm sure we can help narrow your search. Long live the Brown Coats.
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Careless Reviews & Reading Cost Us All,
This week was a great week and a bad week in porn for me.
I signed up for three sites, took the dip and purchased $75.00+ in sites. I chose 3 totally opposite type sites to give three reviews on 3 type niches. That was my Goal.
Sounds like fun.

So as painful as it was I posted mostly negative reviews on two sites. I hate giving bad feedback and reviews.
Just makes you see how stupid you were with your money and its gone now. ( you cant get a refund if the site sucks)

So heres some friendly advice, give your reviews good or bad. If theres enough to comment on you should as it may save ppl money.

So notes to Newbies too:
Listen just do not talk, Porn Users Members spend 10's of thousands in all each year on this stuff.
If you read and listen you may give great reviews and help others.
The Idea I feel behind PU is to help save money and help the industry run well and avoid us spending to much. And have fun along the way.



1-Let me first say thanks for your reviews.
2-Never feel bad about joining a website. ALL OF US have done it. Instead rejoice in the fact that your accident will save many others, and you may help put someones poor attempt at making money out of business.
3-Always give a review whether it is good or bad. I'd say that it's probably more important if it's bad because of #2
4-We all started as newbies, but as you review more sites and read other PU members reviews you discover a style or like me simply steal it from the other members. In any case our reviews just get better.
5-Go ahead and use that soap box anytime you fell like it. Long live the Brown Coats.
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view. I buy almost exclusively widescreen movies. I just wish I had a nice 50" screen to go with it. It's on my wish list for 2009. Long live the Brown Coats.
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Originally Posted by Khan:


But here's the snag ...

IF the girl is indeed of age (18) then what right have we (you, me, the gov't) to impede her ability to make a living at her chosen profession just because of her physical appearance?

Suppose someone told YOU you couldn't have your job because the owner thought the position required someone who *looks* older? I'm betting you'd be pretty pissed off. :)


Let me add that a female performer who physically looks younger than her actual age, would find it difficult to get any parts except those of an 18 yrs old teen girl. Long live the Brown Coats.
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Originally Posted by Khan:


Actually, I'm pretty sure the laws were recently (w/in the last few years) changed to make it illegal to portray a model as being under age. BTW, 18 is (currently) the legal age for porn in most countries but it really has nothing to do with the "age of consent" ... which can (often) be several years younger.

And yes, your Traci Lords (at least all her earlier stuff) vids/photos are considered underage porn.


Do you know if this law would apply if the actress says that she's 18, but dresses in much younger looking outfits?

The only Tracy Lord porn movie that is still legal is called: Tracy I love You. She created her own production company and filmed this movie when she turned 18. Not long after the movie was released, she revealed that she was underage at the time of all her previous movies. Not only did many people get the shaft, but she made a killing by having the only legal Tracy Lord porn movie. Long live the Brown Coats. Edited on Sep 17, 2008, 07:59pm
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What, in your opinion, is the best site in lesbian porn where the videos are in HD, or very close to it in quality?


The only one I've ever been a member is Strapon Lesbian but their videos are not in HD, at least they weren't the last time I was there. I am thinking of joining either Lez Cuties or something similar. Most of my lebien porn is from DVD's. Long live the Brown Coats.
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Chewing gum doesn't bother me - in fact it's an audio treat to listen to the smacking - even better is a girl with a sucker slurping away - mmmmmmm!!


Have you seen the new Evil Angel movie "Lollipop Lesbians"? Long live the Brown Coats.
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Originally Posted by roseman:


Hi guys,
recently my wife destroyed my SLK 200 in a car accident, hopefully she is okay but the car is complete destroyed, thank God she is okay (I don't care about the car).
I am thinking to buy a new one and I am between Mazda RX 8 Cosmo (R3) (231 PS / Navi / S/R) and Peugeot 307 CC 2.0 (180 PS).
Which one of those two would you buy and why?
(I am between those two cars at the moment, I don't want to buy a Mercedes or a BMW or even any other car).
My wife votes for the convertable and I for RX 8, it's a dilemma :)


I'll second Khan's thought about your wife coming through ok.

Since you live in TO, then you usually get less snow then us in Montreal. That said the last couple of winters have been pretty bad for you guys. Do you have a winter car or truck? If not, then a convertible may not be a very good choice for our Canadian winter. If I had to pick one from you list then either the Peugot or the RX-8.

P.S: I'm kind of an old fart when it comes to car, so I usually look more for safety. My choices would be between a Volvo or a Subaru. Long live the Brown Coats.
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