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08-04-08  05:50am - 5984 days #21
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Originally Posted by jr2375:


I would agree with that. I also, however, agree with TBP's decision to disregard cost. It might be difficult to objectively reconcile cost with content in a review. Obviously, some sites are garbage and cost a fortune, and others are the reverse.

I take cost and content into account when joining a site. I don't mind paying a premium price for what I really like, but a good price for a slightly poorer site is okay, too, within limits.


I certainly will pay better attention to PU reviews, particularly where customer service comes into play.


I understand the reasons why TBP chose to disregard cost when reviewing websites. I don't always agree with it, but I respect their decision.

Solo model sites are a good example of why cost of a website can be important. Having joined a few model sites in the past, and been burned everytime. I wouldn't have been as pissed, If I had spent less than 5$ everytime, but since I spent between 15 and 25$ then that pretty much jaded me to the whole solo model site thing.

The sad part in all of this is that many solo model sites don't even belong to the model. Some webmaster owns the name and simply puts leased material. He makes money of the girl and at the same time gives her a bad name.

I'm like you in that I don't mind paying a lot for a website or a network, but that's because the content and quality justify the expense.

You best bet is to look at the PU review and see who the reviewer is. If you and he share similar taste, then you wil probably agree on the review. I look for certain reviewers who's judgement I respect. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-03-08  10:19am - 5985 days #19
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Something I can say from experience is that the TBP review might give you some useful info, but the real dirt more often shows up at PU. I think the TBP is helpful for finding new sites and getting factual info (though that's not flawless, either). For straightforward opinions about sites, PU is the way to go.


You are 100% correct about that. I look at TBP for facts on the website, but my next step is to look if someone at Pu has reviewed this site. Unless the price and content really appeal to me. I usually wait until I see a review at PU and then decide whether to join.

Another reason for waiting is that unlike TBP's decision to disregard the cost in their reviews, I always factor that in mine. I respect their choice, but for me the cost of a website versus content is important. A website looses points if the cost to content ratio seems unjustified. Long live the Brown Coats.

08-01-08  06:59pm - 5986 days #16
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Originally Posted by jr2375:


I think it's about time that review sites do an updates review on Brooke Skye. Her good reviews on various sites helped make my decision to join. I'm willing to overlook a lot of flaws, but being virtually unable to access the site and being patronized by customer support are not flaws I can accept.



Hi jr2375 if you take a look at PU's most recent review. You will see that this site did not get a good score and that all the prior ones were in 2007 or before. My rule of thumb is always look at the date of any review. I don't care how good a site was in the past but is it still good. Some sites may no longer be updating but they accumulated such a large amount of content that I overlook that.

If a site used to have bad score but now has a good one then I read what improvements were made to justify the new rating, and vice versa if the score went down. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-30-08  07:03pm - 5988 days #5
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When I first started surfing the net looking for some of my favorite pornstars. I discovered that many of them had sites. At least at the time I tought so. It didn't take me long to discover that many of these sites weren't really from the pornstars, but instead some sleazebag webmaster with a drop of leased material. I got burned too many times and since then I almost never join solo sites.

I'm sure that there are some honest girls who are deeply involved in their website, and truly care about offering some good exclusive material. I just haven't found one that the girl is appealing enough for me to give it a try. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-28-08  06:24pm - 5990 days #39
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


I Sadly, I find it is most common to see this in lesbian porn - I think a number of the models are willing to perform with other women, but just aren't all that excited by it.
Allie Sin comes to mind as one. I've only seen her into maybe 3 or 4 scenes - the rest she might as well be laying on her couch and flipping through channels at 2 in the morning.



Have you taken a look at the movies offered by Girlfriends Films? Except for a few actresses and/or scenes, all the women appear into it. What is even more impressive is that most of these have done or still do boy/girl stuff.

Allie Sin is a good candidate for lame sex performer. You always got the feeling that she just would have rather been doing anything else. I think that if she'd been chewing gum and painting her nails during her scenes that no one would have see a difference. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-28-08  06:16pm - 5990 days #38
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Originally Posted by StacieAdams:


Pat, thanks for suggesting the Jenna Haze take a rest. Jenna is working so hard and deserves her success without having to risk her health.

One thing that concerns me is that these women are wearing out their asses and several well-known stars have even had something called an "anal prolapse" which is too gross to think about let alone explain. I sure hope the next trend in US porn market is less dangerous to the stars' health!

I have to disagree with one thing I read here:
"Reality is, all models, Euro or American are just there for the money."

I have seen plenty of women who don't turn me on because when they are on film they don't seem to be into it. This ruins a good scene for me, whether they are from Europe or the US, mainstream or amateur (have noticed the problem across all of these). I wish there were an exhibitionist score index somewhere that was a handy guide to how turned on the pornstar is by being on camera.


Hi Stacie. Far too many girls today push themselves beyond what I consider healthy shooting schedules. That and too many directors today want aggressive sex. For vaginal sex that can get real sore, but in anal that gets dangerous. I wish, I could say that if producers paid girls more money, that they wouldn't overbook themselves, but I don't think it would stop them from doing it. After all the average pornstar carrer is maybe 2-3 yrs. I've actually seen a some prolapsed anus(not pretty).

I also don't think that they are all in it for the money, but most are. In their defense I have no issue if a girl decides to make money in this fashion. Better if she makes a lot of it. The ones you've named are good example of girls that appear to truly enjoy what they are doing. Is it acting or real. I don't know, but either way their perfomance on screen are amazing. Of the four named Penny is the yougest at 25 and in the biz for 6 yrs. That's 2 pornstar lifetimes, and last I heard she's still going.

An exhibitionist meter would be great, but it might be better suited to movies or scenes than to actual stars. Whether it's porn or a mainstream movie. Sometimes there is just no chemistry between the actors. Having to kiss someone you don't find attractive is one thing, having to F..K him has to be that much harder. Not everyone is a Meryl Streep. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-27-08  06:58pm - 5991 days #35
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


Far from it. Jenna Haze went the other way. Where Jenna Jameson clearly tried to get as mainstream as she could without losing her cred with the porn audience, Jenna Haze went for it by proving to the porn audience that she was the best. The woman's done virtually everything in terms of 'acts' and she's done it all with an incredible enthusiasm. I've got to say, though, that from recent Brazzers scenes that she's done, I hope she takes a break and takes care of her health. She's been working like a demon the past few years and she's looking a bit gaunt and tired.


She's one of the few pornstars who started her career doing mostly gonzo, switched to a more softcore style and came back to hardcore. I had to go see what you meant about her look on the Brazzer network and I agree that she's looking rather pale and tired. I looked at her profile on IAFD and most of the work she's done in the last 2 yrs has been anal. That type of scene is really hard on the body. She should either take a long break or switch to girl/girl or straight boy girl. She's been in the business for 7 yrs. That's two lifetimes by pornstar yrs. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-27-08  07:50am - 5992 days #33
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Yes, I see what you mean. It's true in the US, too. The last real superstar I think was Jenna Jameson. About the closest now to superstar status might be Jenna Haze, but I'm not totally sure about that, either.

Jenna Jameson became a household word in the US when internet porn was still taking its baby steps. If you wanted more Jenna, you'd head for a porn shop or a video store that had a "porn room."

Now video out-of-the-box has given way to internet downloads. Sales can't be as easily measured perhaps, so it's harder to tell who the superstar(s) are.

And the internet porn world now has many, many different women who are hot in looks and at least good in performance.

Add to that the expansion of niches, and I do think porn users tend to stick with the particular ones they like. So the would-be superstar has gotten lost among all of the women, all of the sites, and all of the variety.


I agree with you that Jenna Jameson became an household name, but I disagree with you that she became a superstar.
Thanks to her appearance on the Howard Stern movie her name started being discussed on network television. I think that she or her manager saw an opportunity to market her in a more favorable light to mainstream media. That may have increased her bankable assets, but I don't really care if a pornstar is well accepted by mainstream media. I want my pornstar to be attractive and her sex scenes hot. I'm affraid that Jenna always left me a little cold on the sex part, and sadly the changes that she has done to her body have pretty much killed her attractiveness

I think you are correct that internet killed the video star just like video killed the radio star. There are so many women to choose from these days. For one to shine above the others is difficult. I agree that Jenna Haze may be a good choice for a superstar, but unlike the other Henna she didn't get she is by doing mainstream material or shying away from the hardcore stuff. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-27-08  07:32am - 5992 days #6
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If the preview pages are an example of what's available inside then don't bother with this one. I did not see a single exclusine thing on there. I could be wrong but my gut feeling is that this is one of those solo model sites with all lease material designed purely as a quick cash grab. At 19$ this is still 20$ too much. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-27-08  07:23am - 5992 days #5
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I enjoy reading all the reviews on PU because unlike most other review sites, you get a good sampling of most of the available porn on the net. As well you get those less known sites that might otherwise never be reviewed.

I agree with Drooler that the only time I have a problem with a review is when the score seems rather high or low or the information given is barely 2-3 lines long. I still read the review, but with a grain of salt added to it.

I think the strenght of PU is that most, if not all of us are here to help others in choosing or avoiding sites.

I hope that reviewers that bring those rare little gems that they've disovered to the light keep right on doing just that. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-23-08  06:10pm - 5995 days #5
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In no particular order
I've never done that.
Young and Anal.
White Trash whore.
Perverted Stories.
Lesbian Seduction. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-19-08  07:55pm - 5999 days #52
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Originally Posted by CaliFornicator:


Staying on the vintage topic does any one know of any vintage porn sites so that us 20 somethings can catch up on the classics? Id be interested in checking that out...The fist porn I ever saw was a VHS tape i stole from my best friends dad...


If you have a specific star or movie you'd like to see then try visiting AEBN or Hot Movie. These are probably the 2 best streaming video websites. I know that both have a large quantity of classic movies. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-12-08  07:35pm - 6006 days #10
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Originally Posted by PinkPanther:


JSexNetwork posts quite a few uncensored vids starring Japanese JAV stars. They have also posted vids where the masking was so small that it did not meet the censor's standards and had to be pulled. They're illegal in Japan, but they are good quality, hot vids.


Thanks Pink Panther. I'll have to take a closer look at that site. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-11-08  07:01pm - 6007 days #8
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Originally Posted by asmith12:


I'm with you on it, let me know if you can find something (I'm glad that there is somebody here who don't share "this is Japanese law" vision - why should we care about Japanese laws outside of Japan?).


It must be somekind of cultural peculiarity, because I do not understand how they have no problem showing girls pretending to be raped, but the actual naugthy parts have to be pixalated. These are the people that brought us Lolicon. It's just too weird.

P.S: If I do find one you can bet that I'll mention it. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-09-08  07:55pm - 6009 days #7
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I wouldn't call German porn disgusting either. It's a little more extreme than some others, but not by miles. There is probably more fisting than I've seen in other videos. In my opinion if a girl can handle getting a dap or a dpp then she's probably not going to mind getting fisted (within reasons). Long live the Brown Coats.

07-09-08  07:50pm - 6009 days #3
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Call me weird but my biggest problem with Japanese porn sites or videos is the damn pixalation. Give me a site that has my favorite actresses performing sex scenes without pixalation and I'm there. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-09-08  07:46pm - 6009 days #7
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For European movies and actresses see: www.egafd.com for all of Europe and for just British then www.bgafd.co.uk.

I highly recommend you visit www.russianrealitysites.com for anyone interested in identifying certain performers in a select number of sites. Most if not all performers are Russian. One of the neat features is that there is often a link to Eurobaeindex for the performers. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-08-08  06:48pm - 6010 days #38
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Originally Posted by Drooler:



Here are some sure-fire favorites: Andie Valentino, Crystal Klein, Eve Angel, Evelyn Lory, Gitta Blonde, Jana Cova, Julie Silver, Lenka Gaborova, Linda O'Neil, Marina/Euphrat, Mia Stone, Monique Alexander, Peaches, Rebecca Linares, Sandy (the "Hungarian Queen," I call her), Sasha Grey, Denisa Keltnerova/Veronica DaSouza, Sophie Moone, Susana Spears, Mindy Vega ...

And one I wish there were more of is Olivia York, as she's known at Club Sandy. There's a gallery there from some time ago called "Magnetic Eyes" with a few dynamite ass poses. I've only seen her lately at Eva's Garden as Autoria (4 photosets, the best of which is "Driving Me Crazy," although that one isn't as good as "Magnetic Eyes").


I agree with all of your choices, and would only add Jana Foxy Long live the Brown Coats.

07-08-08  06:43pm - 6010 days #29
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I prefer smaller breast but I do agree that Gianna's are quite delicious looking. My only prerequisite is that they have to be real(no fake boobs). Somehow the girls always seem to get a size that is disproportinate to their body. My first choice at the moment is Faye Valentine also known as Faye Reagan see the below link : http://zfhg.digitaldesire.com/galleries/...ntine/?dhd=ddg2free6
#2 Samantha Ryan
#3 Stephanie Swift.
I could go on. Long live the Brown Coats.

07-05-08  07:03am - 6014 days #3
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If you you don't mind streaming videos then Hot movies or AEBN are full of them. In case you don't know too many studios then: DBM Videovertrieb, Magam Films, Inflagranti Films, Trimax, Blue One, and so on. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-19-08  05:54pm - 6029 days #12
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Originally Posted by TheRizzo:


Seems a lot of cable companies are starting to try and pull this move lately. I don't understand how they can say 100 gigs is a fair cap in today's internet with the quality of videos out there that are legit. Not even talking about the pirated stuff out there. I watch tons of television shows that are streamed from the network sites etc. And the quality of the movies that we can get in adult sites now creates some pretty large file downloads.

I hope they don't get away with this or we get a better alternative very soon. DSL usually doesn't cap but then you get slower speeds.


In my case, my cable provider did get away with it. When I originally joined them. I was using high speed internet with about a 30G limit. After a couple of months, I had to go to ultra high speed because I was always over the limit and at the time that bandwith gave you unlimited downloads. At least I'm luckier than some, because I got a couple of years out of it. You can imagine the people that switch providers because of the unlimited download option and oveenight being told too bad. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-19-08  05:54pm - 6029 days #12
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Originally Posted by TheRizzo:


Seems a lot of cable companies are starting to try and pull this move lately. I don't understand how they can say 100 gigs is a fair cap in today's internet with the quality of videos out there that are legit. Not even talking about the pirated stuff out there. I watch tons of television shows that are streamed from the network sites etc. And the quality of the movies that we can get in adult sites now creates some pretty large file downloads.

I hope they don't get away with this or we get a better alternative very soon. DSL usually doesn't cap but then you get slower speeds.


In my case, my cable provider did get away with it. When I originally joined them. I was using high speed internet with about a 30G limit. After a couple of months, I had to go to ultra high speed because I was always over the limit and at the time that bandwith gave you unlimited downloads. At least I'm luckier than some, because I got a couple of years out of it. You can imagine the people that switch providers because of the unlimited download option and oveenight being told too bad.

Since movie studios, TV stations and cable providers are all owned by the same people. You can be sure that they will gadly screw us over. I read somewhere that TV stations want to offer people for a small fee the ability to download their TV shows. Now they'll charge you for the show and make money with us going over our limit. Long live the Brown Coats. Edited on Jun 19, 2008, 05:59pm

06-17-08  06:34pm - 6031 days #9
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I've had broadband internet since day one. It's through my cable provider. The price was pretty reasonable, and I had unlimited downloads. Late last year they implemented the 100G maximum download before they surcharge you. Let's say that the surcharge gets real expensive. For those who might think that 100G is a lot remember that many sites want to go HI-DEF. Just compare a scene with standard definition and that same one in Hi-Def. That's one of the reasons why I haven't been too happy with the move toward Hi-Def. Add to that that studios want us to start downloading movies straight from the internet.
Call me paranoid, but I smell colusion between internet providers and studios. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-13-08  07:01pm - 6035 days #28
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


Currently, the tablet has a list of Dick Cheney's enemies engraved on it (carvers work around the clock adding names to it).

Actually, the tablet is supposed to represent knowledge and has the roman numeral date of July 4, 1776, on it. The phrase "give me your tired, your poor" etc. is part of a poem called The New Colossus by Emma Lazarus which is enscribed at the base and was added about 100 years ago.


Thanks for the info. I hope you don't mind but I'll use the info next time to impress my friends.

Poor Dick didn't always need a big list, but after the incident where he accidentaly shot his friend in the face. I guess people are less incline to go on any kind of trip with him. For fear of disapearing. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-12-08  07:23pm - 6036 days #26
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The part I found disconcerning was the fact that the magazine was being sued for causing hatred to Muslims. As the attorney for the magazine pointed out truth was not a defense, responsible journalism was not a defense, publication for the public interest was not a defense. Essentially there was no defense to the charges so long as the article caused people to hate muslims.

As for sending us the actors; I do believe that the original Statue of Liberty inscription said "Give us your poor, your tired and your pornstars" but it somehow got edited out of the final product.


Trust me when I tell you that some of the things happening in our legal system make me wish to scream sometimes. Hopefully we'll fix it, because it definetely needs it. I guess any system as it's flaws.

Is that what was suppose to be written on there. So now we can add pornstars to the list of things the French gave us. Right beside fries. For myself, I've always been curious to know what's written in the book she's holding. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-12-08  07:12pm - 6036 days #4
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I don't know of this is the appropriate forum because they are still around. It's just that they either don't update anymore or you can't tell if it's a new update or rehashing of an older scene. I always had a soft spot for "Captain Stabbin" because he was like the Ed Powers of the internet. He got girls to do anal way before they ever did on dvd. The other is "Hands on Hardcore". I've been an off and on member for the last couple of years, but if I'm not wrong all they've been doing for the last few months is re-edit old scenes and makes us believe that they are brand news ones. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-11-08  06:45pm - 6037 days #24
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


There is sort of a duality in Canadian law. You get the nuddie stuff on tv but in terms of actual speech (the written and verbal stuff) you actually have far more limits than what the US has. I'm posting a link here to a NY times article that explains some of the legal and cultural differences between Western countries and the US when it comes to speech. The article focuses on a Canadian newspaper that is facing criminal hate charges for publishing an anti muslim article in a mocking tone that would probably just be ignored here in the US.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/us/12hate.html?hp

It seems to me that if the government can after you for a commentary then it seems to me that stuff like interracial porn, if done in a crude or even mildly demeaning way, could be prosecuted under Canadian law as being hateful.

The general view in Canada on the subject of news is that you are resposible for what you write, report on TV or on the radio, so make sure that your facts are correct or there will be hell to pay. The Hell usually comes from the government. It's quite rare to be sued by individuals or organisations. That said we have seen an increase in minority groups doing what that article was talking about. The sad part is that it usually doesn't come from the majority, but small extremist groups with a distinct agenda.

I wouldn't hold my breath on the interrracial porn movie from Canada. I'm affraid we're still working on making a good one let alone an offensive one. I think that for now we'll limit our contribution to furnishing the US with actors and actresses (porn or mainstream). Long live the Brown Coats.

06-10-08  06:47pm - 6038 days #5
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Hi shooterbo. I think that Toadsith's suggestion about getting WMP 10 is the best solution, if you want to stick with that media. I'd recommend the VLC player(see link). It's free and I've been able to play certain files that no other player could. http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ Long live the Brown Coats.

06-09-08  07:34pm - 6039 days #22
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


I guess I never really have understood how "gore" differs from sex so much in the movie ratings system. You can pretty much kill a person in whatever form or variation you want and so long as there is some sort of plot line still get an R rating. How does a consentual sex scene not make the cut while some crazed maniac nonconsentually disemboweling a half naked teenage girl pass muster? How did violence come to trump sex in terms of being more socially acceptable?


I'm with you on this one. Take a look at movies like Hostel 1&2. They get an R rating because the naked girls are only naked because there about to be tortured and killed. You have Monster Ball where Halle Berry and Billy Bob thorton go at it, and that gets an R rated. What that tells me is that if it has known actors and actresses or it's backed by a known Hollywood studio then the worst you can expect is an R rating. It seems that the content is not has important.

I wonder if the refilmed the movie pirates, but replaced all the penetrations scence with fakes ones. Could that movie get a R rating??? Long live the Brown Coats.

06-09-08  07:18pm - 6039 days #7
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Originally Posted by Monahan:


Early porn always showed the guy splurting cum on the babe's butt or belly as a demonstration of birth control (seriously). In fact back in the day, the question was whether the guy orgasing was happy having to pull out his schlong mid-gasm or if it frustrated him. Frequently it showed on the guy's face how much he wanted to finish off inside the chick.

Then in the 1980's, the concept of a "money shot" was invented as a description of the external cum shot which then became an important part of all porn.

Then there was the cum shot in the mouth, then the swallow. But in all cases the jerking off part was accomplished by the female vagina.


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My first porn movies were those made in the 70's and 80's so like Monahan, I remember the standard cum shot on the ass, back or lower stomach. On some rare occasions you might have a cum shot in between the breast, but those were usually when the girl used them as a masturbation tool on the guy. Another reason for showing the cum shot was to prove that there was actual penetration. Don't forget that in those days you had pretend penetration in some movies. Facials, cum gurgling, cum swallowing, cum anything and pink eyes are a product of modern porn. I certainly won't be sad, if and when they go back to oblivion.

We are now stuck at having to watch a guy and a girl go at it, stop, the guy pulls out, and then jerks off in the girl's face. On the occasion where he misses the target and hits the eyes. We are then stuck at having to watch a girl pretend that she's real happy to have semen in her eyes...Right because girls love the feel of semen in the eyes. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-06-08  07:59pm - 6042 days #20
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Jesus. That's crazy - I didn't think they'd ever convict him - I thought it was all publicity on the part of the "moral majority" types hoping to scare porn companies out of business. I don't understand why they would pick on him - he panders to a pretty secluded market. It isn't like you are just going to trip across his products in a normal store.

I don't understand these morality driven attacks on porn when violence goes completely unchecked. I just watched Rambo IV - which was entertaining in sort of the same way that a car crash is - but that happily got an R rating despite more dismemberment than you could shake a stick at. They killed off children, dogs and water buffalo (yes - water buffalo!) on screen, but Max Hardcore faces jail time for rough sex, how does that make sense?


Actually Max was convicted because some of his movies were mailed to Florida and not because of the actual content. I'm not saying that the content didn't help to convict him , but without the mail aspect. The prosecutor would have had no case. I can't say that what Gene Ross wrote about the verdict is correct, but I did think that a made sense http://www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=28477

As for the old debate that you can kiss a woman's breast and that gets you an X rating, but you cut it off and that gets you an R or more likely a PG-13. I just saw Rambo and I couldn't agree with you more. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-06-08  07:46pm - 6042 days #8
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:



I live close to Montreal and Toronto (say 3 hours) and I've heard rumors that they have some interesting conventions that are pretty uncensored and flamboyant, but I've been unsuccessful in finding their website or anything. Can't say I've lost any sleep over it - but I thought it would be a fun weekend trip. If anyone knows about conventions in the eastern Canadian area - I'd love for some tips.


I live about an hour from Monteal, so If I do hear of one coming up I'll gadly let you know. I can't speak for Toronto too much, but I suspect that the Montreal ones are likely to be much hotter. Afterall this is a city where exchange clubs are allowed to exist. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-06-08  07:41pm - 6042 days #3
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To understand where I come from, let me first say that I used to enjoy Max Hardcore's stuff. The material that he produced in the early 90's was really hot. I can't be sure when, but at some point it became less hot and far more disturbing.
I can't speak for TBP or PU, but the fact of the matter is that Max hasn't produced a new movie in a long time, and I visited his site earlier this year and I did not see any new updates as well. If nothing else removing his site means that some curious person won't get fooled into joining an old site. Out of curiosity, I took a look at other review sites and no ones has a recent review of his site.
The other reason could be that they do not want in any shape or form to be promote the material of a convicted person. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-03-08  07:48pm - 6045 days #19
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Hi splanet(is that an anagram for planets?) I'd also like to welcome you to this forum. I have never produced anything so I can't say that I understand what it's like to see your hard work stolen.

You mentioned the music industry and all the troubles they've had. No offense but that may not have been the best example. We are talking about an industry that has taken advantage of many artist throught it's history. Many a music exec made a shitload of cash while the artist was left with little if anything to show for his work. They are also guilty of knowingly putting out CD's with 1 good song and 12 crappy ones or rereleasing old stuff and pretending that's it new by adding 1-2 new songs.

In no way do these things give the right to anyone to steal, but it does open the door for people with low morales.

We don't hear too much about music file sharing since the advent of Itunes and similar sites. People pay for what they want and it means that music companies can no longer produce crap and make us believe that it's really roses.

I wish I could say that I have something better than DRM for you, but the fact of the matter is that any system that's created to protect files will sooner or later be broken by someone else.

In business it's all about numbers.
-The price you charge for joining or staying a member.
-The amount, quality, and updating of your content.
-The number of members you have.
-The customer service you offer.
-The satisfaction of your members
All of these points can and will affect your business, and in turn affect your way of life.
I'm pretty sure that after having read most of our post. You realise that most, if not all of us are against DRM's and the reasons why we are. If you have amazing stuff available but it's all DRM protected and no one wants to join your site, then what good is the protection. In the end you will have to close your website because no money is coming in. Long live the Brown Coats.

06-02-08  06:23pm - 6046 days #33
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:



To succeed, it would have to be done properly, no skimping. It would need a good bit of financial backing to film and photograph each starlet for such an extended period of time. There would also have to be a lot of setup shots, post production work and so on. This definitely wouldn't be a matter of editing a video and popping it online. Much work would have to be done for each addition to the library. Despite the presentation of the detached researcher, you could still have some fun, like capturing and tagging of each week's specimen. Everything captured through the lens of the face-less observers...

I just need the money to finance these projects. ::sigh::


There, you have found the major flaw in my idea...Money.
You are correct that to do something like I suggested would require enormous amounts of money. You would have to invest in professional photographers, filmakers, makeup artist, salary for the performer(s), and so on. All of these cost would be high, but once you would have done that. You would now have a performer doing every possible thing we've talked about, but be exclusive to your single site or family of site.
Don't most of all dislike having to join multiple sites, because one of our favorite performer is on it, and is now doing something we'd hoped she'd do. I'd rather pay 50$ to one site and get everything I like than have to join 5 sites at 10$ each for the same thing(frankly 10$ is also a fantasy number since it's more than likely 25$). Long live the Brown Coats.

05-31-08  08:24am - 6049 days #31
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I can't call this a niche site as much as a dream site, but I'd love to see a site that would take newcomers or at least less known perfomers maybe just starting in the biz. The site would in some way groom that performer in her porn career.
It would offer a high quality photography section and in it you would get different sets of any and all of the mentioned body parts or fetishes.

There would be also be a video section again offering any and all mentioned fetishes or body parts.

Both the video and photography would be downloadable in multiple formats. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-31-08  07:45am - 6049 days #30
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Originally Posted by Colm4:


A Lesbian kissing site.


I can't remember where I found this site. I did vist the site and there are only about 20+ scenes at the moment. At a cost of 20$, it's too expensive. If it can grow than it will be on my futur wish list: kissmegirl.com Long live the Brown Coats. Edited by Staff on May 31, 2008, 08:07am

05-29-08  07:26pm - 6050 days #13
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Haha - yeah, "Embrace" is one of the films that came to mind. Ah, gotta love America's little sweethearts growing up and stripping down for the camera. Still waiting on those Olsen Twins. Then again some stars never bothered making people wait (Brooke Shields anyone?).


It was common, once upon a time, for one of our childhood idols to appear in a nude scene at some point in their career. It usually was later in their lives. Maybe it was a way to recapture their waning popularity or they just didn't think it was appropriate.

I don't think we can say this about most of todays rising stars. We had Jessica Biel doing semi-nude photos while still being on 7th Heaven, Christina or Britney did some revealing stuff, Alyssa of course, Madeline Zima, Lindsay Lohan, and I could keep going.

I'm sitting here writing this and wondering how long before there is a sex video with Miley Cirus. Some might read this and think that I must be insane or exagerating, but just consider some of the things she's done up to now. Hell if I'd told you a year ago that Britney's 15yrs old sister would be pregnant today. Wouldn't most people have laughed in my face? No ones laughing now.

I wonder if a director could make a movie today about a 12 yrs old living in a brothel, and appearing fully nude??
If he did, what are the chances that he wouldn't be prosecuted? Long live the Brown Coats.

05-29-08  07:01pm - 6050 days #14
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


I don't know what the obscenity laws are in the Great White North but the US Supreme Court has a 3 prong test for determining obscenity:

1. Whether an average person applying contemporary community standards would find the work, as a whole, appeals to prurient interests;
2. Whether the work in question depicts or describes in a patently offensive way sexual conduct as defined under State law; and
3. Taken as a whole, the work lacks serious artistic, scientific, literary or political value.



It may be that our laws are more liberal or that we just do not produce a whole lot of porn, but I'm scatching my head trying to think of anyone being prosecuted for obscenity. Just to give you an idea. It's quite common to have nudity on network TV after 11pm. Give us another 20 yrs and then we'll see if our government doesn't do like the US. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-27-08  06:43pm - 6052 days #11
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


Wait - Alyssa Milano isn't a porn star?

On a disturbing note, go watch "Commando" and then realize the cute, innocent, little daughter becomes the spectacle known today as Alyssa Milano.



Not quite, but there is her movie "Embrace of the Vampire".
You say Commando and I say how about "Who's the Boss".

I'll add one more child star to the list: Madeline Zima from the Nanny and her scene in Californication. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-27-08  06:35pm - 6052 days #9
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Originally Posted by Wittyguy:


I don't believe the US has ever made it crime to possess porn other than child and beastiality porn. However, there have been a lot of prosecutions under W's administration. Max Hardcore has been unsuccessfully prosecuted under obescenity laws several times and Extreme Associates is heading to trial soon on obscenity charges as well as a few other US based extreme porn makers.

A lot of the US obscenity laws today have problems because they are too vague and because the "violates community standards" portion of the obscenity test is mostly gone with the spread of the internet. However, countries like the UK and possibly Germany that don't have a constitution or strong "free speech" laws probably could make possession illegal. While the Brit's court system probably will not uphold the law it is certainly disconcerning that the government would pass such a broad law.



Just to add to your email. Max Hardcore is due back in court very soon, so his troubles aren't over yet. The government is getting bolder, because they are going after Evil Angel and John Stagliano.

The reason why the law is so amazing is that it's quite vague about what it considers obscenity. This leaves the door to too many interpretation and more possibility for the government to bring studios to court. Regardless that governments win or lose in these trials. They cost a lot of money to the accused and to all tax payers as well. The difference is that the government always as more money, since they can get it out of your pockets. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-25-08  04:38pm - 6054 days #7
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If you're curious you can read about it at this link.
http://www.adultbizlaw.com/blog/index.php. I gather that this law is an extra tool if a person is accused of a crime. That said it would get pretty scary if the government decides to monitor people that visit certain sites deemed extreme pornography. I'd agree that Kink.com might be considered extreme. The truth is that you have to be a pretty sick in the head to associate what you see on the screen with real life or to think that it's all right to do those things. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-24-08  04:57pm - 6055 days #26
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Originally Posted by Diamond:


What about Jenna Jameson?


I'd be willing to say that she may be the most well known adult star outside of the porn world, but Jenna Jameson will never be on my top 100 list. I've never enjoyed any of her scenes. She was attractive many years ago, but the tattoos, pierceings, plastic surgeries, and the weight loss simply make me sad. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-24-08  04:51pm - 6055 days #28
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Originally Posted by JBDICK:


I don't know her name but I wish I did...
nothing complicated about it though. I just have this fetish about fit girls, lycra, preferably stretched in the way that she does it...
...tight is right and my delight...



The image is too small for me to be sure, but she does have a striking resemblance to Julie Strain. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-24-08  04:43pm - 6055 days #3
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The internet isn't killing Adult Book Stores. The reality is that most, if not all printed material is becoming an endangered species. The cost of raw materials and the printing make it less affordable each day. Once upon a time, in the not so distant past, you had dime store novels. You don't hear that expression any more except in old movies. That said I agree with jackbdirty that people will probaly always want the feel of a book. What you might see is book stores(adult or otherwise) that cater to collectors. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-22-08  07:03pm - 6057 days #14
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Originally Posted by Drooler:


Makes for an interesting question: Which is more disgusting, that scene in The Fly or one of those close-up shots, as at Ass Traffic, of a guy's spit seeping down from the rim of a girls fully flared corn hole?

Tough call.


That last one because it's the real deal and the other is all special effects. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-22-08  06:59pm - 6057 days #30
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Originally Posted by biker:


For the golden days of feature videos with a story. Pandora's Mirror, Anna Obsessed, or The Maze. Some of the women, like Annette Haven, could actually act. Gonzo seems to be the way of things. They still release some of these classics, but it would be nice to see new works. Wicked does create some decent feature videos, but they are few and have very little imagination.

I guess Annette Haven has spoiled me.


I don't know what it was about Annette, but I find that she is still one of the most beautiful pornstars that has ever been.
I don't even care for imagination because they could do like Hollywood and remake some movies. A modern Pandor's Mirror. The biggest problem is that you need pornstars with acting talent. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-22-08  06:52pm - 6057 days #3
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


How about about Alf? I mean he already eats pussy....

http://www.tvshows.de/alf/poster/alf-p10.jpg


You have one hell of a twisted mind. I'd forgotten about poor Alf's appetite for pussies.

How about James Tiberius Kirk. That guy got more action with more women, than all other Starfleet captains put together. He Boldly went where no one has been. Long live the Brown Coats.

05-21-08  06:25pm - 6058 days #5
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Originally Posted by Toadsith:


INow, other users' avatars I'm curious about:
pat362 - that woman is sooo familiar, I know I've seen her before - but I can't place her. A 60's sci-fi show or movie I'm guessing.

nygiants03 - UFC? Is that Ultimate Fighting Championship?

JBDICK - that woman is quite curious looking, who is that?

I'm also curious as to why some people don't have an avatar. I'll extend my offer again - if you want assistance in creating an avatar, I'd be happy to help. Feel free to email me directly (through the site, just lick on my username) or make a post here.


I suspected you might recognize my avatar simply by your choice of avatar. That's the actress Catherine Schell, but I prefer to think of her as Maya of the planet Psychon from the TV show "Space 1999". That is one show I've always wanted to see make a comeback. We could call it Space 2199. Long live the Brown Coats.

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At least you've narrowed down the possibility, but frankly you may have a hard time finding anything done today with any kind of scenario, let alone one longer than 90 seconds or that makes you believe that you are being a kind of voyeur. Hopefully soeone else knows of a site like what you want. My only suggestion right now is to tell you to take a look at AEBN or Hot Movies, and watch for movies done in the 80's or 90's. Long live the Brown Coats.

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