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03-01-13  06:40pm - 4313 days #7
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I honestly can't grasp the reasons why she did the did the video. Anyone with a modicum of inteligence would have known that doing this type of content would come back to haunt them and I belive that Melissa is an inteligent girl so the question begs asking why did she do it? Money is most obvious answer but again wouldn't she have made way more money with a Miss Teen title than from porn? I don't know how much money the guys behind GDP pay the girls but it can't be much higher than the norm. They may pay a better rate because of their location but we are talking the price of an airplace ticket so not a get rich payout.

This recent episode has me wondering if Melissa didn't know exactly what she was doing when she did her video and she actually hope's to get a huge paycheck by doing a sex tape as a former Miss Teen. It worked for Kim and Paris so maybe Melissa is thinking that it can do the same for her. Long live the Brown Coats.

03-01-13  06:26pm - 4313 days #14
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Pat, How bout we import both Gina Gerson & Ivana Sugar - make me happy!

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I know that Ivana has appeaed on a couple of US sites but I suspect that her videos were shot in Europe so it's not really the same as if she had been flown to the US and shot with some US male performers. The sad thing is that language is the main reason why importing these girls wouldn't be worth it because they probably can't have a conversation in English and that is the main sticking point with most Euro girls appeal in America. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-28-13  06:41pm - 4314 days #14
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I agree that it's nice to see Dracula in the forum. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-26-13  06:20pm - 4316 days #28
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^I wish I could tell you that you can rejoice because anal is on the decline but the reality is that so is every other type of porn so it's not line anything else will take it's place. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-26-13  06:16pm - 4316 days #1045
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^The one good thing we can now say about Canadian made TV shows is that they are no longer looked in negative light by US distributors/customers. Case in point are two more or less recent tv shows. Lost Girl about a succubus crime fighter and the much newer Continuum. These are two top notch sci/fi shows with a huge following and although I'm not sure if Lost Girls ever discusses location so as to avoid mentioning Canadian cities and such. Continuum makes it a point of saying that all the action happens in Vancouver of today and of the futur. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-25-13  06:33pm - 4317 days #1042
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^I should have been more clear and added military action. All of those things were economic in nature. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-24-13  06:07pm - 4318 days #7
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Originally Posted by Denner:


But ok: One model has turned my head: Doris/Ivy/Gina Gerson - at several sites. She's maybe the best at the moment to act naturally and erotic, very erotic - bottom line: a natural easteuro model.


I agree with you and I think what is more impressive is that she has managed to gain in popularity since she got onto the porn scene and she is Russian so technically that should be almost impossible for her to do that. I'm not complaining because she has the perfect body shape for my taste. Wouldn't it be grat if she was American and we could get her in some scenario based porn? Long live the Brown Coats.

02-24-13  05:58pm - 4318 days #1039
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Originally Posted by messmer:


I would be willing to bet that if they win the Oscar that Ken Taylor will be mentioned because Ben Affleck is keenly aware of our negative reaction.


Even if Ben Affleck makes a 30 minute speech explaining that his movie is pure fiction when it comes to the role the US had in the liberation of 6 Americans. Will anyone remember it a week from now? Probably not but I'm willing to bet that the movie will more than likely be played in US schools for years to come. Afterall it is a feel good movie. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-24-13  10:51am - 4318 days #1035
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^I would be willing to go agree with you if many Americans didn't get their history lessons from movies but that is sadly not the case. We are now going to have generations of Americans who will believe that Canada was only a bit player and that it was the US that did all the difficult and dangerous work.

I agree that suspension of disbelief is often necessary for someone to enjoy a movie but a movie like Argo isn't asking the viewer to do that but is in fact rewriting history to make one group (Americans in this case) look better than they were. How would you feel if Japan made a version of Pearl Harbor but in their version the attack was really in retaliation for something the US did?

There is a good chance that Argo will win for best picture but will anyone accepting the Oscar mention the name of Ken Taylor(the Canadian Ambassador) who is really the hero? Long live the Brown Coats.

02-23-13  06:40pm - 4319 days #1032
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I really enjoy movies that start out with the disclaimer, "Inspired by actual events, the following is a fictional film that does not depict any actual people or events."


I tend to avoid all movies that have the "inspired by true events" attached to them because I think they are full of shit. It sort of pisses me off when Hollywood rewrites history to make it look like Americans are the heroes when often it was other people. Case in point is the recent Argo. Aftr this Americans will think that Canada had very little to do with the safe rescue of six American diplomts when the reality is quite different. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-20-13  06:37pm - 4322 days #9
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Originally Posted by bibo:


Have you ever had the feeling of "Ok, that's it, I've downloaded the internet now"?


I have now come to the conclusion that although I haven't downloaded all the good porn there is out there. Most of the sites that I used to visit simply no longer produce stuff that I care for or produyce so little that I won't join for many months.

Did you look at ddf? Similar to 21sextury but a little more expensive. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-20-13  06:35pm - 4322 days #8
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^I don't know about anyone else but I certainly don't have the $20,000 it will cost to do that and if I did then I would want to get my money back and that will never happen.

When the big fish stop making money than what are the chances that the guppies will make any? Long live the Brown Coats.

02-20-13  06:28pm - 4322 days #9
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I guess it's the fault of guys again who force all these women to get breats implants, botox, tummy tuck, nose job, face lifts, silicon injection in lips and whatever other shit women do to please all of us men...Give me a break.

If a guy tells a woman that he doesn't like her labia then why is it that she's still with the loser and why is it that she seeks the help of a doctor to fix what's actually not a problme in the first place. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-19-13  06:04pm - 4323 days #3
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I've never been a member of femjoy and I get tons of spams cvrap on a daily basis. The reality is that once you give your information to any site then there's a good chance that you will start to get spam emails. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-19-13  06:02pm - 4323 days #1026
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^It's a Canadian movie so the budget must have been pretty low but probably higher than half a million. The good news is that it made at least 2.9 million in domestic dvd sales so I'm sure the producers made some money. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-18-13  06:00pm - 4324 days #28
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I completely agree with you that so many scenes today are basically a camera zooming on a guys dick going back and forth in one of the girls holes or as is often the case all three holes. hell if women were to somehow get an extra opening than most of these guys would want to stick a dick in it.

Condoms would probably be less of an issue for many people if we got shots that were from different angles where the condom is not all that visible. How about some facial shots, some nice side shots. A camera isn't meant to be static. It's mean to move and show all of the action rather than just genetalia. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-18-13  05:52pm - 4324 days #8
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Could this be related to where you live rather than the sites themselves? Long live the Brown Coats.

02-17-13  06:26pm - 4325 days #1024
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I saw Warm Bodies this afternoon and I truly enjoyed it. Mind you I'm a sucker for unusual love stories and I don't think you can get any more unusual than a retelling of Romeo and Juliet with humans and zombies.

The two main leads are very good and there are cute moments
in the movie. I don't know if I would recommend this as a theater movie per say but it's definetely worth renting once it gets to dvd/Blu-ray. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-17-13  06:23pm - 4325 days #1023
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^You forgot to add his 3 year stint on Stargate Atlantis.

I didn't miss seeing him in the Conan reboot but I really wish I had because that was a huge turd of a movie. Made even worse by the fact that I actually bought it in the hope that it would be moderately good....It wasn't.

Mind you it wasn't his fault the movie was so awfull. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-17-13  06:10pm - 4325 days #3
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My first question is. Have you visted TBP's section on lesbian porn(see below link)?

https://www.thebestporn.com/categories_ni...sbian_sex/all_sites/

If you haven't done that yet then I highly recommend you do that because it will give you a good idea of what is available out there. You may find tha scenario based porn is rare and that is not different for lesbian porn. I fact it's probably a littl worse. If you hadn't named GFF then I would have told you to visit them but since you have then you may have a harder time finding comparable. I consider the stuff that GFF does or at least did to be by far the best lesbian porn on the market. Lex Cuties does have some nice lesbian scenes but you won't find scenario driven porn in Eastern European porn because the girls almost neevr speak English so it would be usuless to do a scene whenre no one understands them. Therefore they don't.

I suggest you take a look at the top ten lesbian sites on the TBP link and then comeback here and inquire on a couple of them to see if anyone can suggest which of your selection might be more interesting. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-17-13  05:57pm - 4325 days #25
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^The porn industry is dying a slow death and they really should stop talking about condoms and start concentrating on doing things that can help them survive as a business. I understand that there are people that are virulently against condoms and that they can't or won't change their mind but talking about it won't change anything. If these people choose to stop buying porn because it has condoms than that's that. I would think that shutting Tube Sites and Torrent Sites would be far more important than whether a guy is wearing a rubber during a penetration scene.

Now in regards to your question as to why they can't hide the damn things. Well there are two reasons. The first is that there is no way to hide a condom. The best anyone can do is use a clear one so that skin color shows through but the condom is still more or less visible and even more so for anyone who doesn't want to see one. The advantage with a clear condom is that it's both easy and cheap.

The other reason is that there really is no new technology out there to deal with the removal of any object from a digital media. The only current way is by the use of a computer technician painstaklingly removing the condom from every shot. That is done after the fact and requires many hours so that adds days and weeks to the release of the scene. It also adds a huge cost to the scene and that is where it makes this an impossibility for porn studios. They are already making a tiny fraction of profits and they can't afford to pay a tech guy to remove a condom because they will then make no profit.

Now even if they could get a CGI guy to do it for a very low cost then it probably still wouldn't happen because the only way for this to work require's that the performer wear a blue or preferably lime green condom. This would make it impossible to sell the scene as is because no one will want to watch a guy screw a girl with a lime green condom on his penis. The only exception I can think of is if it's a spoof of Schrek. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-17-13  12:21pm - 4325 days #22
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


I think condoms would suck if I was into gay porn. that would be like watching a girl having sex with a hole in her pants and I could not see the good stuff. I wonder how condoms affect gay porn ?


I don't watch gay porn but the comments I normally see whenever the question of condoms in porn comes up is that condoms have been the norm for many years now in gay porn. It's been the norm in anything Wicked does and most of the Vivid stuff as well and I don't think any of those companies are complaining about a drop in their sales. At least a drop related to condoms. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-17-13  07:35am - 4326 days #5
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Pretty interesting article, even if it only analyzes IAFD--where are all my lovely Euro ladies? .


IAFD has an extensive list of Euro performers but I think that since most of their movies are/were produced in Europe then the person making the article avoided using them. Possibly because he lacked the necessary info to add them to the article.

Originally Posted by turboshaft:


Frankly I would have thought Nina Hartley would have "slept with" (really misleading term for porn) far more men than 199,


It actually makes perfect sense that she slept with such a relatively small number of male performers in her career because the ratio of female to male performers is so high that any female performer who has slept with 50 or more males has had a very good career. She may have only slept with 199 males but what that number doesn't say is that she slept with many of them multiple times. She slept with Tom Byron at least 25 times but his name is only mentioned once.

Originally Posted by turboshaft:


And I knew Tom Byron had been around since the '80s but I wouldn't have thought he had the most onscreen partners. In a documentary I watched recently Randy West mentioned the number of women he had slept with and it was a few thousand and it didn't sound unrealistic; 3 decades nonstop, including all that gonzo he did as director/actor. But who's counting?


I think the main appeal for Tom is that he had a baby face which made him the perfect guy for any role requiring a teen/young man and this was often the role for most porn guys. It also didn't hurt that he could act as well as shoot great sex scenes with the different porn girls. Another reason is that Tom Byron came into the industry at just the right time because finally porn was no longer relegated to just porn theaters because a small piece of technology called the VCR made it's appearance at about that time and and this is probably why porn is what it is today. The industry recognized what the VCR could mean for porn and in return the makers of VCR saw the huge profits they could make by allowing porn producers access to their technology. One of the best example of bad decision making you can ever see is from the makers of the Betamax. They unlike the makers of VCR's decided that they wouldn't allow the porn industry access to their product and this is why their superior piece of technology was relegated to Long live the Brown Coats.

02-16-13  11:29am - 4326 days #18
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^Mind you if they used green/blue condoms then they could do some realy interesting cgi stuff . Imagine a guy with a submarine or a rocket instead of penis. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-12-13  06:47pm - 4330 days #26
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^I'd have to get a laptop capable of going to war because I am notoriously hard on all the stuff I own and since I don't think such a computer exits(unless they do) then I will probably never get a laptop. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-11-13  07:03pm - 4331 days #18
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^You asked so I'm obligated to offer at least one possible explaination. Maybe if you have your laptop too close to yourself while mastubating and your hand slips off your penis and punches the screen with enough strenght to damge it or make it fall of the desk??? Long live the Brown Coats.

02-11-13  07:00pm - 4331 days #10
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I hope that you choose to stay because I really enjoy your participation in the forum and not haing your point of view on different subjects would be a major loss for all of us.

Don't despair too much on the porn front because I'm also in the same boat as you to the point where I visits sites that I used to enjuoy and don't see any of their recent updates as worth bothering with. maybe it's the Canadian winter that's getting us down. If that's the case then it would be over soon. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-10-13  12:18pm - 4332 days #13
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Originally Posted by Reveen:


Huh? Sorry but were you drinking when you wrote that?

I've got a laptop and a desktop. And I take extremely good care of my desktop, after all, I built it myself so I should know how to maintain and take care of it.

And if you break the screen on a laptop, then you can plug a monitor into the vga or dvi socket and easily transfer data yourself. Unless you've knackered the gpu and then you really are screwed


I think you missed the point anyomebutme was making so let me make it again using slightly different words. It is next to impossible to break a desktop computer because it really doesn't move all that often(if at all) but a laptop is designed to be taken with you so chances are pretty big that you will drop it at some point or bump it against a hard surface and if the screen gets damaged then that laptop is no longer capable of working. At least for the purpose it was bought for. Yes you can always hook up a monitor to your laptop computer at home or the office but you have basically transformed a portable computer into a desktop computer. You will still have to buy a new laptop to replace the one with the broken screen.

P.S: I'd also like to add that you didn't need to add the drunk comment to your post. It didn't really add anything of value to your post and more or less insulted another poster. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-09-13  10:00am - 4334 days #2
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I've used a PC all my life so I don't have any real life experience with laptops so maybe some of my comments will be way off base but it's been my understanding that pc's are usually cheaper than laptops when you compare them side by side if for no other reason than a laptop has an internal battery that is necessary if you need to use it away from an electrical source. A laptop is great because it's a computer you canb easily carry anywhere but if you are never going to do that then why would you want to spend money on a computer that will remain more or less in the same room. I think PC's have a longer life expectancy than a laptop because it's a lot easier to add hardware to them or to upgrade some existing hardware. I have a 22" monitor for my computer and although I'm sure the makers of laptop can offer as big or bigger. The reality is that it becomes less and less pratical to have a portable computer with ascreen that is so big that it's actually no longer a good idea to carry it with you but I can get a 32" or even a 40" monitor for my computer and location will be the only thing that i will have to worry about. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-08-13  06:42pm - 4334 days #1017
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I didn't go see many movies last year but that is because I found that most of them weren't worth paying upwards or 10$. Hopefully that will change this year. One of my favorite movies from last year is the New "Judge" Dredd with Karl Urban and Olivia Thirlby. It was amazing. This is probably the best use of 3d that I have ever seen in any movie.

My list of TV shows is getting bigger and that's good news because maybe that means we'll see less reality show crap
in the coming months and years.

IN no particular order.
Justified, Continum, Lost Girl, The Mentalist, Sherlock Homes(US version), Persons of Interest(this one is growing on me), Being Human, Revolution Teen Wolf and I'm probably forgeting one. I really like USA Networks Common Law but the show didn't make it beyond season one so I don't know if it's really worth it for anyone to bother looking at it now. The fate of Common Law is the main reason why I so rarely want to get invested in any tv show today because most of them don't make it beyond one or two seasons and even the ones that do tend to now kill off main characters
and that may make the show more interesting to some but not to me. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-04-13  06:35pm - 4338 days #101
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^Go figure why anyone would do that to themselves. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-04-13  06:34pm - 4338 days #25
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


I don't know about that. I would say it's somewhat comparable with the 1st Amendment arguments that some producers make, like Larry Flynt, John Stagliano, or even Max Hardcore, though those guys have had more a stake in it (forced to appear in court) than Jessie making a nonsensical YouTube video.


Quite true but this is the kind of thing where you could win the battle of Free Speach and still lose the war of popularity. I mean there is nothing deadlier to someone living of their fame than saying or doing something that alienates people. Just ask Mel Gibson. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-04-13  03:36pm - 4338 days #18
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Originally Posted by turboshaft:


her IAFD page lists as August 8, 1993. So, despite Jessie's worry that "they're just trying to take things away from us," as she says early in the video, she's not even old enough to legally buy a handgun for the government to take away.

Also, is she already an American citizen anyway? She keeps referring to "our 2nd Amendment rights"


I don't know if her birthday is correct but even if it isn't then she must still be getting close to 20 because she started in 2011 and she was 18 at the time. What is the legal age to buy a gun in America and does the age of requirement change from State to State?

I know she was reading from something off camera because she kept on looking at it during her little speach so whoever wrote the text took their information from either pro gin sites or the NRA's own site because all the keypoints she talked about is the stuff they are saying. A lot of it is bull crap but maybe they think that if enough people say it then it will make it true.

There are lots of things that a person who relies on fan approval can fight for which won't adversely affect their capability of making money but this is probably not one of them. This is bound to get talked about and if she wasn't on planning to leave porn then this might definetely help her leave. Long live the Brown Coats. Edited on Feb 04, 2013, 06:30pm

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^Truer words were never spoken because if most porn girls had a financial adviser who was in charge of their money then they could actually hope to get in, make some quick cash and then get out with a nice nest egg. Mind you that would make it impossible for them to buy crap they could never have afforded in the past and which they don't need like expensive clothes and what not's.

As it is. Your average porn girl gets into porn with the idea that she will make hundreds of thousands of dollars in a very short amount of time. That was the case 5 years ago but even then girls made a lot of money but they just as quickly spent it and sooner or later started using drugs and alcohol which made the money go away even faster.
Now girls can hope to make 20,000$ to maybe 30,000$ but they will have to be open to almost anything to make that kind of money. The old glamour, solo. g/g and basic b/g stuff isn't enough anymore to make decent money. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-03-13  06:04pm - 4339 days #11
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^That could change since she is either dating a porn guy or is engaged to one so at some point her view will be as a citizen. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-03-13  11:18am - 4339 days #9
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I may not agree with her point of view but I was quite willing to hear what she had to say on the subject but she lost me at about the 3:40 mark when she said that Banks, The White House and Police Stations are places with very high security because they have people and possessions that are very valuable and children should have the same security. So basically what America needs is a police state where not the government but armed individuals will uphold the law(at least those not involving guns). Maybe I'm way off on this one but I belive that this is called anarchy. Her speach is basically the key poins the NRA is promoting. More guns, more guns and of course more guns. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-02-13  10:26am - 4341 days #1011
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^Interesting news. Money may be the main reason why the studio is doing this. Aftewall Danial Craig is now a very expensive actor and unless the studio signed a long term contract with him then the incredible success of Skyfall has now made him too expensive for many movies. Especially one's where the profit from the first movie was nowhere near what the studio was hoping for. As much as he was great in the first movie. His presences did not equal great box office profits and I don't think they will for any of the sequels.

There may also be another reason why the studio is looking to write him out or cast another actor. There was a rumor that he had an affair with the main actress Rooney mara during the filming of the movie and that it got a little intense. Now that can make for great chemistry on screen but those things oten come out and studios love publicity but hate bad publicity because the people who should be talking about your movie are only talking about the main actors affair and that leads to divorce which adds bad publicity which the studios equates with small box office profits. Anyore remember last years debacle with Kristen Stewart and the director of Snow White and the Hunstman? The people stopped talking about the movie and started talking about them. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-02-13  10:08am - 4341 days #94
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^Thank You Very Much. Poor Eric. He should have picke something less painful like Hitchcock. Long live the Brown Coats.

02-01-13  06:49pm - 4341 days #90
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^The one thing you can say about her new look is that she is still really beautiful even with the almost bald look. Not many women can say the same. Long live the Brown Coats.

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I also like Lily's breast but they are all natural so she doesn't really belong in a thread dedicated to fake ones but thanks for the pics. It helps us go through the bad ones.

P.S: Have any of you guys seen Lily's more recent hair cut? Long live the Brown Coats.

01-30-13  06:13pm - 4343 days #72
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^I don't like to defend him but he was probably one of the better ones out of the possible people who were interested in the job. Mind you that isn't saying much. The good news (if you're a Democrat) is that the Republicans have probably already lost the 2016 elections and they haven't even started campaigning. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-30-13  06:08pm - 4343 days #65
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Originally Posted by Cybertoad:


She reminds me of Madison Ivy/ Crossed with Jessica Jaymes.


Sorry lost focus ........


Well Angie does have the fake breasts so she is ahead of many porn performers who normally wait a couple of yeas before getting implants. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-29-13  06:20pm - 4344 days #36
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^I don't think you classify as the proto-typical tube site user but then again. I didn't think you would. I think the more common Tube Site user is a younger guy who is more than happy to look at free (for him) porn. He'll beg anyone who will listen for information on the movie or the performers but not so that he can buy the content but so that he can find more free stuff like that video. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-28-13  06:20pm - 4345 days #34
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^The question is how much of the porn you watch on Tube Sites or download from Torrent sites do you try and find so that you can pay for it? Or do you not bother. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-28-13  06:15pm - 4345 days #60
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^Which of these turns you on more and does it bother you if a model you discovered with natural breasts decides to get (nomally they are huge) implants?

I prefer models with small breats but I do have a couple of models that have big to very big breasts on my list of favorites but almost none these started their career with natural breasts and then decided to get implants. Most of the models that alter their body tend to lose me as a fan. Not all of them but most. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-23-13  05:34pm - 4350 days #46
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Originally Posted by davel60:


This is exactly what I am looking for...


Let me add my welcome to the others. I hope we get to interact on various subjects. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-23-13  05:33pm - 4350 days #45
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Originally Posted by jberryl69:


Well, you are correct, but I just really wonder had she not done that if she still could have made the financial gain.


Although you might be correct. About the only way she could have met Hefner was if she was a Playboy Bunny so we are back to why she got implants. I think I have given up trying to figure the reasons behind girls modifrying their bodies. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-20-13  06:44pm - 4353 days #27
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^No I don't believe that oversaturation of the market is the reason why so many studios are now dead and the reason is that all of them were making plenty of money in the beginning of 2000 and the only thing that really changed is that sometime in the mid 2000 you started to see more and more tube and torrent sites on the net and these were usually offering content from both just released dvd's or the most recent updates from porn sites.

I also have money to spend and although I find some small gems here and there. I can't say that the bulk of the porn that I currently download is as good as I would like it to be. I at least still enjoy some gonzo porn so I have more chances than messmer. Once tube and torrent sites started to steal content than only the biggest studios were able to survive and therefore these studios stopped trying to shot variety because they know that their margin of profit is so small that any loss of money could be catastrophic.

I'd like to point out that this isn't a North American only problem because most European studios are also dead now and we certainly can't blame lack of variety for their demise. yes many of the Eastern European sites tend to showcase anal but you once had French, Italian, German and English studios that also released plenty of movies and they offered a lot more variety. Where are they if not dead because their movies were pirated two minutes after it was released and available on half a dozen different torrent sites.

P.S: I never saw the scenes themselves but I do know that a few movies were made where the theme was girls snorting cum up their nose. What the F..k is that if not crazy? Long live the Brown Coats.

01-20-13  10:15am - 4354 days #24
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Originally Posted by bibo:


First, I'd like to mention that I don't visit tube sites, I do not share or download illegal copies of porn and I'm paying for all sites I join (and that's not just a few).

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Whenever that topic is being discussed, it's inevitable, that the anti-copy fraction is playing the copy kills card at some point, even to the extend of claiming, that downloading pirate copies is responsible for the death of the entire industry.



Ah if only your arguments were true then no one woul be talking about Tube sites and torrent sites in a bad way but you are so far off the deep end that it's not funny.

Let's talk about the mainstream industry first. Although it's true that some people who download a couple of songs illegally will then go out and buy the album but I dare say that they are the minority. I think the majority of these pleople will instead look for the entire album and illegally download it on the pretext that it's not a very good album or that they could have recorded all the songs from the radio so it's okay to do it this way. That's not to say that music companies didn't screw plenty of artist over the years because I think they all did but stealing the songs is not only screwing the studio but the artist as well. The only difference now is that the artist got screwed by his record company and his fan.

The same can be said for tv shows and movies. If the show or movie is so bad that you were never going to see it in theaters, rent it on dvd or watch on tv then why is it good enough to download and save to your computer?

Now we come to porn. By your argument all porn studios are lying when they say that Tube and Torrent sites are killing the industry. I would love to believe you but the proof is doesn't point in that direction. Just look at the number of studios currently producing porn vs what it was just 4 years ago and you can clearly see that the number of active studios has significantly dropped and you can also see that the ones still producing porn today are not doing as many releases as they did just a few years ago. Recession could be blamed for a couple of those dead studios but cxertainly not the bulk of them.

No the sad reality is that if someone can get something for free (in his mind) then he will do so and not even care that he is stealing the material. Of course he has many reasons for justifying his action but the most common ones seems to be that the porn isn't very good so it's okay to steal it as he wouldn't have bought it anyway. Not a bad reason per say but why steal something that you don't particularly like?

It's true that some studios are making money from Tube and Torrent Sites but those are the ones who own them and they are not well liked in the industry(see anything to do with manwin for rexample). Most of the others make some money but it's like getting a quarter for something that cost you a dollar to make. You aren't actually making money but you aren't losing it all. Long live the Brown Coats.

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^I can honestly say that when it comes to todays celebrity then nothing surprises me. This one makes perfect sense since the award shows these celebrities appear on are watched by millions of people so why not pay a celebrity to wear one of your creation. It makes even more sense to pay the nominees a lot more money because they are sure to get more coverage. The only downside that I can see is that if the outfit is less than appealing and gets talked about on every entertainment show and site then that may not be the kind of publivity the creator wanted. Long live the Brown Coats.

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