This site is included with a membership to Gag Factor, which means that it has all the flaws of that site. With the full price of the membership at $30 it isn’t a great value even considering that you get access to Gag Factor, Hardcore Fuck Machines, American Bukkake, Over Stuffed Holes and Ghetto Swarm. The problem is partly quantity, but mostly quality – the quality of the videos is much lower than the industry standard.
This is a small site that offers scenes from the JM Productions series “Fuck Machines.” JM Productions is pretty extreme and this series focuses on porn stars getting fucked by dildos attached to fucking machines.
The site started in November 2010 and has 36 scenes up now. They update at a rate of one scene per week.
All files are uploaded at 720x480 @ 21kbps, which isn’t a great resolution. It’s the only resolution available. Streaming is available too.
Pics are available (with and average of 50 per scene) but there is no option for zips.
Please see my review of Gag Factor if you’re looking for more specific details as a lot of that is applicable here too.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Part of a network (five sites in total)
- I only paid $13.95 when I joined through Jerkoff Zone (but read that review before you decide on whether this is a good way for you to join)
- Pics available
- Free Download Manager works well
- Updates (one scene per week)
- Streaming available
- Downloads available
- Supports download managers (no obvious time-out issues)
- Bills through CCBill
Cons:
- Not great value for the full membership price ($29.95)
- Low quality videos for newer uploads
- Very low quality videos for older uploads
- Scenes aren’t associated with the DVD title and number
- No zips for pics
- Only one video file option
- A lot of overlap with other JM Productions sites
- No search function
- Very basic layout
Bottom Line:
I joined this site because it was offered to me at a discount when I joined Jerkoff Zone. Both are from the porn studio JM Productions (JMP). I don’t know if this is a standard offer, but even at the discounted price the site isn’t a great value so I wouldn’t recommend paying full price.
If you’re not familiar with JMP or Gag Factor, think of Facial Abuse or Max Hardcore turned down to 9. It’s still very rough, but not as rough as Max or FA. The series uses well known porn models and face fucks them. There is lots of gagging, runny noses and eyes and general unpleasantness. At least the guys aren’t as misogynistic as the ones at Facial Abuse.
JMP made about 30 volumes of the Gag Factor series and most of those had about 10 scenes in them. The site has most of what was produced, with a total of just under 340 scenes. 29 of the scenes are BTS material. I can’t fault the site for lack of material (though I do wish JMP brought that thoroughness to other series’ offered online).
What I can fault JMP for is the lack of quality in the material. The newest scenes are posted in one version only – wmv at 640x480 and 2100kbps. This resolution has been available since February 2008, which means that about one-third of the scenes are in this ‘high’ res format. In 2008 this resolution wouldn’t have been impressive, and it certainly isn’t now. What that also means, then, is that two-thirds of the scenes are only available in resolutions lower than the ‘high res’ files now being offered. Many of the oldest scenes are available at 320x240 with 360kbps. By today’s standards, these are virtually unwatchable. I doubt that they were state-of-the-art when they were posted in 2003.
A lesser complaint is the very basic layout of the site. The main member page is one long page with all the scenes listed. You get basic information on the scene and one small thumbnail. You get the star name, number of pics in the set, length of the video and the date the scene was added. What you don’t get is the volume number from the series for those looking to catalogue the scenes that way. With each scene description there is a link that takes you to a separate page. From there you can see and download the pictures (no zips are available) and stream or download the video. More recent videos have only the option of downloading the full video, while older postings have that and the option to break it down into segments. There is no search function, but since the site itself is relatively small and the niche is narrow there really is no need for one.
The pictures aren’t stellar in quality with a resolution of 750x500. That holds for the oldest and newest pics on the site. The number of pics per scene varies but ranges between 20 and 70 with the average in the 50s.
A membership here gives you free access to four other JMP sites, but that isn’t obvious right away. From Gag Factor you get access to two sites, and it’s only when you go to one of those that you see access to two further sites. The extra sites are:
The additional sites don’t merit a full review each, but I will post some specific details as a comment on each site’s page here.
One problem with these sites is that there is some overlap with the main JMP site, Jerkoff Zone. The same scene may be posted twice but in vastly different qualities. But since the scenes aren’t easily associated with the DVD title and volume it is difficult to know this before you download anything. What that means is that you’ll likely download duplicates of several scenes and delete the lowest resolution.
I can’t fault the site for the quantity because it appears they’ve made a lot of their Gag Factor scenes available here. But as a stand-alone site 300 scenes isn’t a lot, and not worth $30. The bigger problem, as I noted in my review of Jerkoff Zone, is that the site just doesn’t live up to the standard that I expected from JMP. JMP stuff may not be for everyone, but what they do, they do it well. And the website doesn’t do it any justice.
This site, even with the add-ons isn’t a good value for the full price. It’s not a lot better at the discounted price either. So unless you’re a huge JMP fan and are looking for an obscure scene that you can’t get elsewhere, I’d stay away. It bothers me to say that too, because I like JMP and would love to see them offer a great product at a decent price that would allow them to continue making great product. Their intended market must be elsewhere, because they aren’t looking for it on the internet.
Great review. I'm a big fan of this site too, and many others on the Kink network. Like you, I always cringe when I see their membership fees, but then I remember that this is innovative and very well done. Their overhead costs are also likely quite a bit higher than a studio that uses a couch in a living room. For me, I think while the actual cost is higher than normal, it still provides excellent value for the money spent.
Also, make sure to sign up for their email newsletter because they frequently give site discounts to subscribers. Also, the last time I was there when you had a membership at one site you got a discount on others so that helps too.
Thanks for the reply, Monahan. I agree with what you said about Hustler. They've since dropped the DRM (on most files, if my memory is correct) but they still do a poor job given all the material and resources that they have.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Some variety of JM Productions series’
- Membership gives you discount ($13.95 versus $29.95) at Gag Factor
- Updates (but not on any obvious schedule)
- Streaming available
- Downloads available
- Supports download managers (no obvious time-out issues)
- Bills through CCBill
Cons:
- Terrible video quality in older files, barely passable in newer
- Small site
- Not part of a network
- No access to many series and titles
- Heavy reliance on Behind-the-scenes material (which to some may be a positive)
- Updates are irregular, but never frequent
- Only one video file option
- Not good value for the monthly subscription ($19.95)
- A lot of overlap with other JM Productions sites
- No search function
- Very basic layout
- No screencaps or other pics
Bottom Line:
Jerkoff Zone sells itself as the official JM Productions (JMP) site. For those who don’t know JMP, they are known for their extreme hardcore material. Think Max Hardcore toned down just a bit. They’re known for such series as American Bukkake, American Gokkun, Young & Anal, Tough Love and Gag Factor. I’m a big fan of most of their work and the site’s intro page listed all the series that I liked, so I presumed I’d have some decent access to that material. It turns out that the site over promises and under delivers. They can’t be accused of false advertising because there are scenes from all the series they mention on the site, but most are not well represented. Take the “Young and Anal” series which has about 40 editions now (assuming four scenes per edition makes that roughly 160 scenes) and the site offers just two scenes from this series. That’s the worst it gets, but it doesn’t really get much better with the other series. Take American Bukkake – this is a groundbreaking series and really has no competition in the American market. There are 40 editions, with usually two scenes per movie. The site offers four scenes. American Gokkun? Of the 10 editions (20 scenes) produced, two are on the site. You get the picture.
I might not have as much to complain about if the video quality was good, but it isn’t. Back in late 2008 the site started offering “high quality” video for both download and streaming, though the streaming is lower quality than the video. Even in 2008, though, the quality was barely up to industry standards. In 2011 it is woefully inadequate. The best resolution on the site is 720x480 @ 2000kbps. Those are rare though. More common is 720x480 @ 1500 and 640x480 @1500. Videos posted before January 2008 (maybe 40%) are virtually unwatchable at 320x240@ 460 and even as low as 235kbps. There are no options for downloads either – just the one WMV file. One good thing is that Free Download Manager worked flawlessly.
The site layout is very basic. The main page is broken down in to several sections: videos, BTS scenes, “Travels with Ashley Blue and trailers.
The video page opens to a page with all the videos. They are sorted by upload date and not by DVD title. There is no option to sort them in any other way. There are approximately 180 videos posted, with 40% of those being poor resolution. The “Travels with Ashley Blue” is just four links to a handful of photos of Ms. Blue touring porn shops. The BTS section has about 70 BTS scenes from various titles. Then there are trailers for other JMP DVDs. So for the $20 fee all you really get is maybe 100 watchable porn scenes. The site relies too much on filler like BTS and trailers and markets them as if they have real value to a consumer. They can be interesting, but they aren’t what people join for.
The site claims to update “every couple of days” and that might be true, but the update is more likely to be a BTS or trailer than an actual scene.
When I joined I was offered a $13.95 discounted price to another JMP site, Gag Factor. I took that option and as it is sold as a stand-alone site I’ll post a review of that later. I have no way of knowing if the discount is a standard offer. I’ll give full credit to the site for not making this a pre-checked cross-sell.
The biggest disappointment about this site for me is that is mostly a wasted effort. JMP makes excellent porn. The production values are good, they use top female talent and they have some of the more innovative niche series out there. They are also a prolific studio and must have hundreds of titles to their credit. But they continue in the tradition of studios not putting much effort into their websites. The site offers only a fraction of the material that the studio has, it offers it in poor quality and on a site that looks like it took them an hour to put together. It seems to me that a poor effort like this would reflect badly on the whole studio. I have no idea why JMP would have such a poor internet site. They do offer a lot more on VOD sites, so maybe they push that to make more money. If that’s the case, then the website is just a large advertising site that people pay money for. If that’s the case, I guess I’ve been had. At least they bill through CCBill so I know I can cancel easily. They also heavily push DVDs, which seems odd to me. Are they living in a time warp?
If they offered much more of their catalogue at good resolutions this could be a good value at even twice the price. As it stands though, this isn’t a good value at the current price.
Should you join this site? If you’re a huge JMP fan then give it a try, knowing that it isn’t a very good site. If you want to dabble in some unique JMP stuff, you’re better off just giving them your money at a VOD site or finding a DVD at your local shop, which is probably what they want anyway.
I've caught myself referring to "the good old days" sometimes, but there is no evidence that those days were so good for many things. Just a few examples (besides porn, because those definitely were NOT the good old days...)
- food: when I grew up you only got certain vegetables and fruit in season. There was no economical means to get bananas, oranges or corn from the southern U.S. to where I lived. You made do with frozen or none at all.
- cars: screw the idea that the mid to late sixties was the best time for cars. I could afford to buy a Ford compact car or even a V6 pickup that would run rings around the performance cars from when I was a kid. And I'm safer and burn a lot less fuel doing it too.
- TV: remember when all you had was ABC, CBS and NBC. We had CBC in Canada, which was pretty good, but TV is much better thanks to networks like HBO.
That comment brings back some memories! I remember back in the early 1980s hardcore porn videos were illegal where I lived. That, obviously, made them hard to get. I got a tip that a local shop sold pirated VHS movies under the counter and that turned out to be correct. They were terrible quality, probably being a dub of a dub of a dub, and I paid $60 for two of them. I have no idea what that would translate into in today's dollars, but it was a lot for a kid with a just-above-minimum-wage job. That was probably the first money I ever spent on hardcore porn.
I'm not sure what qualifies as a porn purchase, and I see that many are considering online purchases only. I'd say the most I ever spent around the same time for online memberships would be around $100, but if we're expanding the discussion I once paid $250-ish for a bunch of DVDs at a discount shop in Toronto. If the discussion is broad enough to include strip clubs or similar activities, the answer to that is much, much higher.
If you’re planning on joining ZTOD you might find my review of Third Movies useful. Third Movies, Zero Tolerance on Demand and Black Ice Pass are all part of the same network and the sites are all blended together. What I wrote about Third Movies applies here too.
If you’re planning on joining ZTOD you might find my review of Third Movies useful. Third Movies, Zero Tolerance on Demand and Black Ice Pass are all part of the same network and the sites are all blended together. What I wrote about Third Movies applies here too.
This looks like a great site. I'm not normally into these kinds of sites but I have had memberships to a few. This looks like one that I'll add to my list of future memberships. Thanks for the review.
No. The girls wouldn't let me join their crappy club for jerks. I even told them I was a lesbian.
But seriously, I'm definitely not a frat kinda guy. Unless you consider a military unit as a fraternity, which in that case I guess I am a frat kinda guy, and have been in a fraternity. But with less homoeroticism. Not much less, but still less...
Thanks for the warning. I like sites like In the VIP and VIP crew for the lengthy set up before the sex, but once the sex starts they focus on it. Party Hardcore might have been a site I'd be tempted to join, but with your story about how tough it was to cancel your membership there's no chance that I'd join now.
I didn't download any HD stuff (but I may go back later and get some favorite scenes in HD) but I'd agree with you. All the broken links occur in videos before they started posting HD. So if you're going in to get HD only you likely won't find any broken links at all.
Thanks for your kind words. I get so many advantages from reading other's reviews here that I feel compelled to put some effort into mine so that people might find them useful. And I should add that the PU's increasing the allowable length of reviews makes it so much easier to capture everything important.
In my reply to gaypornlover, I said that the biggest problem was the sheer number of broken links, but after thinking about your comment re the wide chasm between file quality, I'm unsure which is the bigger problem. They're both bad. We can be certain that the file resolution was a conscious decision they made, and maybe it makes sense for them if most of their customers prefer mp4 files. But other sites offer HD wmv files so it can be done. And when checking file specs for the review i was really surprised to see that wmv file quality has actually decreased. That makes no sense.
But... for all its warts, I'd still recommend the site since it really does give access to a huge quantity of really well done porn. In his review last year, exotics4me stated that the site s great for those of us with a large collection of DVD porn who want to "round out your collection nicely." That's a big draw for me since this was a way to get some exclusive scenes of some favourite models that I couldn't get anywhere else.
To be fair, the site design is weak, but I suspect that the inability to remember passwords is just a technical glitch. The bigger problem, by far, are the broken links. It was frustrating to see a title that I'd been wanting to see for a long time only to find the link broken. So close, but yet so far! I can't imagine that the site managers don't know this problem exists. If they can't or won't fix it then they should remove the scenes from the site.
Current Member for less than 1 month (at the time of review).
Pros:
- Access to three studios
- Huge collection
- Good variety
- File download options
- Streaming available
- HD available in 40+% of scenes
- HD available in several file sizes
- Picture galleries (as singles or zips)
- Download manager works great
- Download links don’t appear to time out
- Multiple ways to sort DVDs
Cons:
- Lots of broken links in older titles
- Even though the site has the option of remembering your username and password, that feature doesn’t work
- When scenes are added to ‘favorites” they are listed by performer name only – it’s difficult to track it by movie name
- Search function is very basic
- List of performers can’t be sorted
- Video quality isn’t great
- HD scene files are HUGE
- Only updates by adding a scene or two per day
-Older videos use WMV Codec 9, while newer ones use Codec 8
- As site pushes HD videos, non-HD video quality gets downgraded with newer material
Bottom Line:
I have a love-hate relationship with studio sites. I love them because mainstream DVD porn is my preference and I give full marks to a studio that makes a large part of their catalogue available for download. The hate part is that most studios seem to treat their internet presence as a mere sideline and they don’t put the effort into it. Third Movies live up to the standards of most studio sites, with the love-hate thing still going on. In fairness to them, though, they are a much better site than some other studios on the ‘net.
While a membership to Third Movies gets you access to two other sites (Zero Tolerance on Demand and Black Ice Pass) it really can’t be thought of as a network because of the way the sites are bundled. On the member page you can sort by scene or DVD but the default is that you see titles from all three sites mixed together. You have the option to sort them by site. I’ve not seen another site that does it this way and I really like it. Rather than comb through three different sites there is just one mega site. This is really convenient. Since I didn’t sort by site, this review applies equally to all three sites.
The site offers access to almost 1000 DVDs (324 Third Movies, 389 ZTOD and 243 Black Ice).
The site offers multiple ways to sort the material, from DVD title, scene and general theme. The sorting options are appreciated because the search function doesn’t work well. I found that it tended to be pretty generous in interpreting what you were looking for so you got more hits than needed. The list of stars is just a giant list. If you’re looking for a star who’s name begins with W, be prepared to click ahead in 3-page increments until you get there.
The site has been around since 2004 so there are obviously some changes, most notably the addition of HD material. HD material is being offered on the newly added scenes and HD is now available of just over 40% of the scenes on the site. Older videos are offered in “AVI Xvid” and up to three resolutions of WMV. I tried the Xvid files but couldn’t play them as the codec wasn’t available. Make sure to test this if you plan to download this file type. Given the size of the site, I downloaded the highest wmv available. For most files this ranged from 640x360 @ 2176kbps to 720x540 @ 3155kbps. Newer videos (starting in late 2006) often offer HD in three resolutions (360p, 720p and 1080p). All HD files are only available in mp4 format. I can’t comment on the HD quality because I prefer wmv format. Newer scenes are also available for iPod and iPhone.
Two major problems with the site are that for older videos (roughly 2004 to 2006) there are a huge number of broken links. I’m guessing that up to 20% of the links are broken. The page that pops up to tell you this has a link to report the problem, but that link is broken too. (As is the link to get the AVI codec). This problem has been noted in past reviews, so I’m guessing that the site knows of the problem. The other issue is that as the site pushes HD material, it actually appears that they are decreasing the quality of the non-HD material. The first DVD posted on the site in 2004 has better resolution and bitrate than the newest ones. Also (and I don’t know what impact this has) the oldest are encoded in wmv 9 while the newest are in codec 8.
Subjectively, the quality of the non-HD videos is barely average.
Pictures are available, though this really isn’t a photo site. They are available in zips. The resolution is fairly low at 600x900.
Minor problems with the site are that even though the option exists, the site won’t remember your username and password. You have to enter it (twice) each time you go to the site. This may be not issue to anyone else, but I’d select scenes for download by adding it to my favorites on the site. The problem is that it gets added under the star’s name and no DVD title is given unless you actually click on the link. I’d prefer the DVD title and star name for ID.
The site continues to update, though they only add a scene or two per day. To make that worse, they’ll have up to four DVD titles updating so you may wait a long time to get a particular scene in a DVD. At least they do tell you when the scene you want will be added.
I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend this site, subject to the caveats I noted here. A membership here gives you access to a wide variety of scenes. Unless you’re into fetish material there will be lots to keep you happy here. There is a good mix of U.S. and European models too. Black-themed videos are probably better represented here than at many competing sites. These studios also have titles on sites like Videobox, but I didn’t find the level of overlap to be too bad. There is lots here to keep a PU happy.
I selected an answer only because I figured I needed to to post a comment.
For me, the question is moot. Males are props in b/g porn. The male should never try to upstage the girl and should never become the focus of the scene. The male's job is to STFU and help the director, cameraman and female talent best display that female talent. Hairy or shaved balls can't contribute to that goal so it isn't an issue for me.
Within the context of the scene it can work, but as I read the question it seems to be more about how the site itself discusses the models. With that, I don't like disparaging comments.
Great review and very useful. After having a membership to Massage Creep I learned I have a bit of a thing for massage videos. I'll probably take a look at the better sites that you mention and for people reading your review and comments I'd definitely add Massage Creep to the list of good massage-themed sites. Massage Creep is probably one of my favorite sites that I spent some time at this year.
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