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jook (0) 03-23-17  03:49am
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Credit card processor problem

Sorry, I'm too lazy to add the following comment to all the sites in their network - Japan HDV,AV Idolz, JAV HQ, My Cute Asian, Asians Bondage, Brutal Asia, Teen Thais. However, the following warning applies to all of them. And further apologies for all of the following minutiae - you can skip the gory details and go to the end if you like.

Japan HDV uses 3 credit card processors, Epoch, SegPay and JAVBill. I used Epoch to initially join with a trial membership with no problem. I also cancelled the membership immediately, a habit which in retrospect, was a mistake since I decided to opt for a monthly membership after the trial. The cancellation was no problem and the transactions with Epoch, as usual, were painless.

The problems began when I tried to rejoin when the trial ended. I made 2 mistakes in doing so. I inadvertently rejoined using the trial membership option again. And I used JAVBill instead of Epoch. My brain must have taken a temporary hiatus. The transaction went through but I couldn't access the site. I could not reach support at Japan HDV for assistance. JAVBill could not provide technical assistance.

I figured heck, it's only $4.95 and I was going to let it go and chalk it up to stupidity. So, I tried again. I rejoined properly using the monthly membership option. However, brain time out number 2! I used SegPay instead of Epoch. Jeez! Actually, I've used SegPay before and didn't have a problem. However, I had the same problem with logging in. I contacted SegPay and they promised to issue a refund. Never happened. However, for whatever reason, the next day my login worked.

But, I was still overcharged $4.95 + $29.95. I'm not sure which credit card processor owes me a refund of $29.95 but JAVBill owes me the refund of $4.95.

Sorry for all the minutiae and you probably don't care about the details. The bottom line is JAVBill is a PITA to deal with and I will forever avoid them. And SegPay is no Epoch in terms of ease to deal with. Support from the site itself was non-existent.

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lk2fireone (0) I'VE ALWAYS HAD GOOD LUCK WITH CCBILL AND EPOCH.
EASY TO DEAL WITH. NO OVER-BILLING, EASY TO CANCEL.
THAT'S JUST MY EXPERIENCE. I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK FOR EVERYONE'S DEALING WITH THEM.
BUT I TRUST CCBILL AND EPOCH, BASED ON MY TRANSACTIONS. WHICH HAS BEEN QUITE A BIT, OVER TIME.

03-23-17  12:57pm

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jook (0) REPLY TO #1 - lk2fireone :

I think most of us will agree that Epoch and CCBill are the gold standard. Unfortunately, we don't always have options.

Japan HDV uses 3 processors, something I never saw before. I never experienced a site that uses different processors give the user an option which one to use, but then again, I haven't been around the block as much as you. One has to play games to get to use the processor of choice, like put in incorrect credit card info with a processor that you don't want to use and hope it defaults to the preferred credit card processor. I wonder what the rationale is behind this.

In my case, I wasn't paying attention to the credit card processor being used and simply accepted the default. My bad and I'm paying for my mistake, if not monetarily then with a waste of time dealing with this now. I have to think most users don't pay attention all that much to credit card processors. This group happens to be a savvy bunch and we make a big deal about processors as we should.

On the plus side, for me anyway, I never lost a nickel. I have no issue disputing a charge with my bank. I've always prevailed in disputes and never had it backfire on me by being blacklisted anywhere. I also find that once you threaten a site or credit card processor with a dispute, they generally back off. I'm guessing that's because they don't want to lose their processing privileges.

03-23-17  03:37pm

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AV Revenue (Suspended) Dear Jook,

Thanks for your comment and feedback about our sites.
We suggest to contact directly our support: http://www.membership-help.com that handle all relationship with billers. It may help to resolve your issue.

To avoid this kind of disappointment with billing system, we are adding an email contact directly into the welcome email for a direct support.

Regards,

03-25-17  04:15am

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jook (0) REPLY TO #3 - AV Revenue :

Thanks for responding and glad to hear the network is taking steps to improve support.

I did go the link you provided and sent a message at the time of the problem but received no response.

However, things seem to be okay now except for the extra $4.95 charge. The $29.95 charge was reversed and it's not worth the energy to fight the $4.95 charge.

03-25-17  11:12am

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AV Revenue (Suspended) REPLY TO #4 - jook :

Dear Jook,

Please send your username to support@membership-help.com , we will take care to refund the $4.95

Regards,

03-25-17  12:43pm

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jook (0) REPLY TO #5 - AV Revenue :

I appreciate it. Email sent.
03-25-17  02:50pm

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rearadmiral (0) I'm glad to see that this is likely resolved. I wish more webmasters were as customer-oriented as this person is.
03-25-17  06:06pm

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elephant (0) REPLY TO #7 - rearadmiral :

Me too, it restores faith that some do care about the customers and resolving issues to keep them members and increase trust. Its very important in business.
03-26-17  02:04am

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jook (0) REPLY TO #8 - elephant :

Absolutely! It's a pleasure to come across even a modicum of customer service in an industry known for anything but.
03-26-17  04:37am

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jook (0) REPLY TO #8 - elephant :

Absolutely! It's a pleasure to come across even a modicum of customer service in an industry known for anything but.
03-26-17  04:37am

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