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raider55 (0) 04-29-16  04:30pm
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can't join because of epoch

site processor, epoch, has me on a lifetime ban on all sites that they process from something that happened in 2008 that i don't remember. It seems that they are taking over many sites that I like. Any advise from anyone in this position?

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pat362 (0) This is really tough because not every site offers the possibility of choosing another CC processor. Is there any way for you to contact Epoch and see if there is something you can do to fix the issue. My favorite CC processor is Epoch. I've never had any issue with them and they helped me out when I had a small problem with a membership.
04-29-16  05:37pm

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raider55 (0) REPLY TO #1 - pat362 :

I have talked to a manager and she said that once blocked there's no way to reverse it. I join about 7 sites a year and more and more Epoch is the processor for the ones that I like.
04-29-16  06:01pm

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tangub (0) REPLY TO #2 - raider55 :

I believe I was black listed by CC Bill once a long time ago because I kicked up a fuss about one site that I joined that I felt was a rip off and basically threatened them that if they refused to refund me I would contact my credit card company and ask for a charge back. This was within one hour of joining the site by the way and I didn't download a thing from it.

Anyway CC Bill refunded me but the next couple of times I went to join a site using CC Bill my card was declined so I guess they must have banned me. After a while though I discovered I was able to get round the ban by using a different credit card and email address so I think it must have been the actual credit card number that was black listed.

Have you tried using Epoch with a different credit card to see if you can get around the ban? Maybe you could try one of those prepaid credit cards?

04-30-16  12:30am

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Roberto281 (0) REPLY TO #3 - tangub :

The identifiers they use for blocking are the users credit card number and email address. So just get a new free online email address, and if you have another card, or can get your bank to issue a new one (old one is lost?) you will be back in business. They don't use name as an identifier for blocking.
04-30-16  01:17am

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lk2fireone (0) REPLY TO #3 - tangub :

tangub,

You might not have been black-listed by CCBILL.
Instead, it might have been the credit card company that blocked the transaction from going through.

I've had many of my attempts to join a site declined, because the credit card I was trying to use declined the payment. Many credit card companies view a payment to CCBILL or Epoch or any payment processor that works with porn sites as suspect.

Either they will automatically decline the suspected payment.
Or they will freeze the credit card account for possible fraudulent activity.

Not only have I had many of my credit cards declined by Epoch and CCBILL, but I've also had many of my credit card accounts frozen, and I had to telephone the credit card company itself, and state the attempted charge was a valid transaction (even when the transaction was not approved).

This can happen, even when I have a monthly charge to Epoch or CCBILL on that particular credit card. If I try to add another charge to Epoch or CCBILL to a credit card (through a new join to a paysite).

Credit card companies view almost any payment to CCBILL or Epoch as a red flag, and can refuse payment, freeze the account, or do both at the same time.

04-30-16  06:58am

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lk2fireone (0) REPLY TO #3 - tangub :

tangub,

About a year ago, I tried to join a porn site, and I was declined by 3 different credit cards.
Using a fourth card, the join was finally accepted.
It was frustrating.

I don't remember if any of the credit card accounts were frozen on that particular day. Because my memory is not great. But all the credit card accounts were valid, in good order, and the payments were still declined automatically, when I hit the accept the payment link on the join page.

04-30-16  07:17am

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raider55 (0) REPLY TO #3 - tangub :

Sucess. I used a different email and card was granted entry. Thanks for the advise.
04-30-16  10:40am

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pat362 (0) REPLY TO #2 - raider55 :

I'm not going to ask what you are accused of doing to get banned for life so I'm simply going to say that it sucks.

I'm not surprised that Epoch is so popular. It is in my opinion the best CC processor.

05-01-16  08:28am

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blueprint (0) I have problems with Epoch too. They keep declining my prepaid Mastercard (which works perfectly with other processors).
I sent them an email and never got an answer. Then I tried their chat.
After some "trial and error" they told me that they don't like my network (!!!) because I'm behind a transparent proxy. The only way for me to bypass the proxy is through a VPN, but the don't like VPNs either!

So, I stay away from sites using epoch.

11-26-16  08:56am

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