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skippy (0) 02-03-17  09:45pm
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I have to PAY MORE for downloads???

I just rejoined Twisty's using the TBP/PU discount and when I went to download my first video, the damn site is telling me I have to pay $10 more a month? That REALLY sucks! So they basically are saying FUCK YOU to the Porn User discount. Nowhere when I signed up did it say that this was a limited membership or provide any information about a required upgrade to download videos. (There was an option for Twisty's premium for $39 extra a month, but no explanation so I unchecked it.)
The TBP review over here at "Twisty's Network" mentions it, but my prior review and my link to the site was from the twistys.com review page. (TBP/PU folks, don't move reviews to a new page, merge them! It is not a new site.)

I spent a few minutes chatting with support and they said it was "because there was a lot of piracy." Really? How does paying an extra $10 eliminate piracy? There didn't seem to be any other options, so I cancelled while I had the guy connected.

I went back into the site and discovered that there are no options to download images either. Apparently that also requires the upgrade. What a sleazy, sleazy way to screw your customer base for a few extra bucks.

Sorry, you just lost me as a subscriber, Twistys. I've joined pretty much every year since 2000 and have written pretty good reviews. Looks like that will be ending this month.

I think I will write a review based on the value I get with the non-VIP membership compared to the 30 or so other sites I've been a member of within the last year. High score? I think not.

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elephant (0) Hi Skippy, yeah seen other sites going pay more for downloads, seems like they are thinking the people that pay for porn are the people we'll punish and can pay us more, it should be law though to explain this on sign-up not hard to see either, this will not stop piracy in anyway.
02-04-17  01:39am

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lk2fireone (0) Diesel network (Wow Girls, Wow Porn, and All Fine Girls) now offers members a choice of streaming only or streaming with downloads.

30 days stream only $19.95/recurring
30 days stream/download $29.95/recurring
180 days stream/download $99.95/recurring

Those prices are for a membership to All Fine Girls or a different membership to Wow Girls plus Wow Porn.
But they tell you on the join page what your choices and prices are on the join page.

But a membership to all 3 sites costs extra. I got my upgrade for about $20 (a one-time fee).
But I don't know if that was a limited time offer or the current price for the upgrade.

The upgrade price used to be about $70 (a one-time fee).

Except that after a continuous 2-month membership, you are normally upgraded to the 3 site access.
Except that I got a discounted membership, and I would only upgrade after 12 months.
So I paid the $20 for the upgrade.

Which I only learned after joining, and writing their support. Because they don't bother to spell out every little detail about the sites/membership rules (that I can find, anyway).

02-04-17  06:09am

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skippy (0) REPLY TO #2 - lk2fireone :

Hi,

Interesting. I joined Diesel network in December, was only given a $29 option and was not given a streaming only option. Then I was offered access to the other sites for an additional $20 a month, so I took it. I let that one lapse as I only drop in for one month a year. I don't mind being told a full subscription is $29, but getting a $19 offer only to find that it isn't a full subscription is criminal.

One thing I noticed is that Twistys prices vary a LOT for no reason at all. For Twisty's, I got 3 different rates from the same computer by going to the join page with different browsers. PU price was $19. Regular price via Chrome was $29 and regular price via IE was $25. And of course I could not tell if any of them included downloads. I would be really pissed if I spent $29 and found that downloads were extra.

I recall that In The Crack has a view-only rate and they have different rates all the way up to 4K downloads, but the information is absolutely clear when you go to sign up...clear enough that I remember it without looking. View-only starts at $10. The rate including 2k HD downloads is $39. I even asked them if they have an annual rate and they said it didn't fit into their pricing structure...so I go back once a year.

If a view-only rate works for web sites, I think that's great for all involved. But changing a regular price to a view-only price in an effort to quietly raise prices, or worse, using a bait-and-switch without telling customers up front, like Twisty's is doing, should not be tolerated.

I take comfort in knowing that historically, every site I've ever seen where the webmasters get too greedy has either failed or dropped in ratings to a C level site. Judging from recent comments and ratings, clearly Twisty's is well on it's way.

02-04-17  09:12am

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lk2fireone (0) REPLY TO #3 - skippy :

I joined Wow Girls on 2016-12-30, and was not given a choice of streaming only, versus streaming + download.
So I assume the option of streaming only started in either January or February 2017.

I joined through a special discounted offer (not through the PU link), for a 1-year term, which is why my membership would not automatically upgrade to diamond status, with access to all three sites, after 2 months. I would have to wait 12 months before I would be upgraded to diamond status.
(Normally, your membership is upgraded to diamond status after 2 months of continuous membership.)

So I paid $20 for the upgrade to diamond status.

So I guess that $20 is the current price to upgrade to diamond status.
Like I wrote earlier, the previous price to upgrade to diamond status was $70. Which caused a lot of complaints by PU members in their reviews of the Diesel network.

I assume very few people at PU took Diesel up on their $70 upgrade.

Diesel lacks a page inside or outside the site, spelling out the terms of service, which would list the cost of the upgrade to diamond status, that I can find.

02-04-17  10:10am

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Yosemite (0) Thanks for the heads up on Twisty's. I was thinking of joining and even went so far as to read their Terms and Conditions a second time and saw nothing about downloading for an additional fee. One thing I have found is that one can never do enough research about some of these pay for play websites.
02-13-17  04:44pm

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MGunz (0) I agree completely on every word you said skippy! ....a few more....I am a on and off viewer of porn sites and had been on Twistys a few times over the year. So I decided to join for 3 months with premium.....and then found out I had to pay for downloads of videos! Since when does a porn site charge extra to download? I called and asked and got the “piracy’s” bullshit and then said to cancel my membership after my 3 months were up. Then I went back to login a week later and couldn’t login! Call and I get, use “Google Chrome” as your web browser.....when every other porn site I go to or have membership WORKS with what I have on my IPad Pro. FUCK TWISTYs, don’t waste any of your money on this MONEY GRAB of a website.
03-08-19  12:21pm

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