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| 11-15-14 08:07am - 3690 days | #742 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Sorry, I asked an editor to take a look and, as Pat predicted, they declined to re-list since the site says it's only opening memberships until Dec 1st. You can still discuss it if you'd like. Sorry I couldn't help more. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 11-15-14 06:10pm - 3689 days | #743 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Personally I think that the drunk thing is mostly for show and the women just pretend to be inebriated. There are so many things that can go wrong with someone who is drunk that it's make shooting scene a waste of time and money. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 11-15-14 11:04pm - 3689 days | #744 | |
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biker (0)
Active User  Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
^That makes sense. Hard to get people to cooperate when their intoxicated. Pretending to be drunk during sex may be illegal in some nations. Not so much a fictional scene, but one that is supposed to be reality. Warning Will Robinson Edited on Nov 15, 2014, 11:10pm | |
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| 11-16-14 09:51am - 3689 days | #745 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^I don't think pretending to be drunk is illegal per say but I certainly wouldn't want to be the company who shot those types of scenes if they don't also happen to have a video of the girl saying that it's all pretend after the scene/ Otherwise an enterprising young lady with a lawyer could take those fools to court by saying that she wasn't pretending and that she was drunk and they took advantage of her. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 11-16-14 11:24am - 3689 days | #746 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User  Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
FWIW, I went to this site's URL yesterday and saw the offer that goes away on 12/1/14. I bookmarked it so I could check it out when I had more time. When I came back the link didn't work, so I assume that the site is closed to new business already. Also worthy of note, the headline on the site had a comment that it was rated #1 by Rabbits Reviews. Rabbits Reviews has nothing at all on WDGirls.com. Looks to be like this site is flaky (why else will they close enrollments?) and, contradictorily, is willing to prevaricate in its promotional material. I think I will give these guys a wide berth and wait until they choose to go mainstream, if they do, and see what TBP has to say when (if) TBP does a review. | |
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| 11-16-14 12:19pm - 3689 days | #747 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User  Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
I tried the link, and it is still working for me. I don't know about the Rabbit's Reviews thing. They were reviewed on Rabbits Reviews in 2013: https://web.archive.org/web/201303271419...s.com/c15/Drunk.html They were de-listed there when they closed their site to new members for the first time earlier this year. While I can't speak for the owners of the site, I can give you the answer that they gave me regarding why they felt the need to close their site to new memberships. They had a large amount of their content pirated and became aware of some members, or maybe hacked accounts, who were posting their content for free. To try to get control of the situation, they felt the need to close off the site. I don't know any more than that. You can say they are "flaky" for closing off their site, but it's better than leaving the industry entirely, which is what many companies have done. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 11-17-14 10:02am - 3688 days | #748 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
Could you please list/re-list AmericanKittens.com? They are back online with a newly redesigned site. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 11-17-14 11:08am - 3688 days | #749 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Sorry but no can do. Site looks to be a free site now and we do not list free sites. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 11-17-14 11:51am - 3688 days | #750 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
It's actually not free, although it looks that way. Trust me, I just paid $15.00 for a membership. It says free to join, but that just gets you the ability to browse the thumbnails. You have to buy a membership to actually access the content. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 11-17-14 02:01pm - 3688 days | #751 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
I was able to access the site and watched the preview loop. Good quality video, but that's about the only positive thing I can say about it. But that's a personal perspective. I don't get the drunk thing, a girl who is totally skunked isn't my idea of a sexy babe in a sexy scene. In any case, as I always say different strokes for different strokers. | |
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| 11-17-14 06:23pm - 3687 days | #752 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I can't speak for the amount you paid but they clearly say on one of their pages that you can join for free simply by entering some basic info. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 11-17-14 06:40pm - 3687 days | #753 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
How about this ... Since they're so unclear at to if they're a free site or a pay site, they'll need to contact the TBP Editors themselves if they want their site relisted. That way they can directly answer any questions the editors have. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 11-17-14 07:29pm - 3687 days | #754 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
Yeah, but if you do that, you will find that the free membership just gives you the ability to preview the thumbnails. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 11-18-14 05:53pm - 3686 days | #755 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^What you describe sounds like a scam site and I see no point in talking about a scam other than to advise people to stay away from it. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 11-19-14 08:30am - 3686 days | #756 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
That's fine if that is your opinion. It would still be valuable to have it listed so that others can refer to it and the experiences of others. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 11-19-14 06:35pm - 3685 days | #757 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^I see it differently because if TBP/PU list the site than they are in fact supporting what I consider to be a scam site. You may have a different opinion of what a scam site is but mine is simple. If a site (like yours) which does not show a join price anywhere on their preview section and actually goes out of it's way to make it appear as though it's free than it's scamming people. Why not choose a site with similar content that TBP shows as being active to talk about instead of trying to get a site that looks fishy reinstated. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 11-19-14 09:43pm - 3685 days | #758 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
I agree with Pat. The PU/TBP site has four levels of business practice notifications: 1. No comments or warnings - I interpret this as no indication of bad practices by the site. (A solid green light) 2. Cross check warnings - I interpret this as a no indication of bad practices by the site except the caution to a member of the site to be aware of cross checked options appearing in the signup process. (A flashing yellow (caution) light) 3. Posting of a site but no evaluations and a notice that TBP does not accept the business practices of the site - I interpret this as acknowledgement of the site but that TBP will not go any further. (A flashing red light (stop and check the situation before proceeding)) 4. Not posting a site (such as the one under discussion) - The site fails in one or more respects to qualify for inclusion on the site - I interpret this as being a loud and clear signal that the site should be avoided. (A do not enter sign) That's why I find PU/TBP to be superior to any of the other review sites and what makes this thread useful in addressing sites that are new or are reactivations of previously dormant sites. That's also why, in my opinion, a site like AmericanKittens.com with its current business practices should not be included in the PU site unless and until it uses legitimate business practices. Edited on Nov 19, 2014, 09:53pm | |
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| 11-20-14 02:40pm - 3685 days | #759 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
I am in contact with the webmaster, and I will pass on your feedback. I think they are honestly trying to succeed - maybe trying too hard and deviating from the norm - but it is what it is. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 11-20-14 06:07pm - 3684 days | #760 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^It's not rocket science. If you are a person or group of persons who own content and would like to make some money from that content by offering it to people on the net than all you need to do is make sure that your site has an icon called "join". This icon would automatically bring up a join page where a possible customer knows how you want him or her to pay to get access to that content. Now if as you say they are trying too hard to succeed than you might want to tell them that they are wasting their time because they are driving in the wrong direction. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 11-20-14 06:19pm - 3684 days | #761 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
Yes, I hesitate to be so direct, but this is the case. While I have requested that the site be re-listed for the sake of discussion, I will be refraining from reviewing them because they have too many issues to work out. It's kind of hard to tell them this, because they have invested a lot in moving in this direction, but I fear your instincts are right. The site does have amazing content, and an awesome landing page. However, they have moved to a "Netflix" style model in which the content is not supposed to be downloadable. Before you all complain about this, believe me, my head is in the same place as yours. I just feel for them a little because they spent a lot of time and money building a custom code base to make this happen. I wish them the best of luck. It's kind of hard to say it now, but honestly customers want downloadable content... Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 02-27-15 09:52am - 3586 days | #763 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User  Posts: 585 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
Just wondering why girlsgonewild.com isn't on the site. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 02-27-15 10:38am - 3586 days | #764 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
In Dec of 2013 we got a notice that the site was having legal (bankruptcy) problems. If they've sorted it out now, the webmaster/site owner is welcome to contact us to get it re-listed. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 03-01-15 07:26am - 3584 days | #765 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User Posts: 585 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
Oh right. Thanks for the info Khan. The site looks quite good now to be honest I was tempted to join then noticed it was featured here so wanted to see why. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 03-01-15 11:21am - 3584 days | #766 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
That could be a problem. The site looks great with some good stuff, but without any upticks by TBP/PU, I'm not willing to drop $29.99 to find out the site is no longer updated and/or has crappy servers that make downloading a pain in the butt. If the site is really good, they will satisfy the TBP folks that they have emerged from bankruptcy and are fully back in business. Be patient. | |
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| 03-18-15 01:26am - 3567 days | #767 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I do a search for 18xgirls.com at PU and get 0 results. This site used to be listed at PU. It seems that if you no longer cover a site, it would be more informative if you still list it, with a description that the site is no longer covered--possibly with a short reason why. Or that PU does not accept the business practices of the site. | |
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| 03-18-15 08:36am - 3567 days | #768 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
We disabled the listing late Saturday night (14-Mar-2015) when we received a report that the site had been hijacked by an underage content provider. We don't list sites with underage models, real or just advertised as such. Our editors have written the site about this matter. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 03-19-15 07:20am - 3566 days | #769 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Just a quick followup ... The site 18xgirls.com has been relisted. The site owners worked with us to address the "implied underage" issue. You may leave your remarks at: https://www.pornusers.com/review/18xgirls/ Hope that helps. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 03-19-15 01:49pm - 3566 days | #770 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Khan, thanks for the update on 18xGirls. I'm currently a member of Teen Mega World. Since 18xGirls has a lot of content that is available at Teen Mega World, I probably won't be joining 18xGirls anytime soon. | |
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| 07-21-15 02:17pm - 3442 days | #772 | |
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Jay G (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 96 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
Went to Woodman Casting X from Porn Users and was enchanted by The "Wake Up and Fuck" section which had beautiful natural women asleep at the hotel who were woken up and romanced by Pierre Woodman & a friend or two. However, as I pointed out in my "bate & switch" comment, these videos are NOT available on the Woodman Casting X web site despite being on the introduction page. It is a separate subscription that is paid separately from Woodman Casting X. Despite this, I gave into temptation and joined the site & could review it if it is listed as a separate site. This would also help those who like the videos but don't realize that it is a separate site with a separate payment despite what Best Porn & Porn Users would lead one to believe. I understand the confusion because it took awhile for me to finally figure this out myself. Also, Congratulations to Amanda on her new position. Hope you will have great success in continuing the tradition of Porn Users. Jay Wisco Jay G | |
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| 07-23-15 06:01am - 3440 days | #774 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User  Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
Hi Jay! Thanks for the kind words! If you refer to post #301, #305, #306, #325, #328, #336 and #343 of this same thread you can see why Wake Up And Fuck doesn't have its own listing. Basically, it doesn't meet the standards for its own review. If that happens to change, though, I'll be sure to update this thread. Thanks!  | |
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| 07-23-15 11:30am - 3440 days | #775 | |
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Pyrenees (0)
Active User  Posts: 153 Registered: Feb 25, '15 Location: USA |
It appears Lupus Pictures is down for the count. You guys might want to contact them to see what the deal is. I was JUST about to join so I could review them and they say the site is down. http://www.lupus-spanking.com/v2/main.php Just in case you guys decide it is time to remove them. On a site note there is a huge lack of good spanking porn in HD online. I mean spanking (Really hard) then sex. Really Kink is the only one I know of. I already own all of their material. I think there is a area of opportunity some good director could cash in on. Someone give me Blacked.com Director email lol =). 1Ti 6:17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; | |
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| 07-23-15 02:28pm - 3440 days | #776 | |
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Pyrenees (0)
Active User Posts: 153 Registered: Feb 25, '15 Location: USA |
Here is a very sad update. I contacted Lupus Films and here was my reply. "Hello Pyrenees Most of the ‘Lupus Spanking’ content is still available at http://videos.spanking.com/studio/2302/RGE-Films/?vod=84518. Regards, Mike, Support" While I am happy I got a response. I suppose it is a good thing the content still exists? But to be frank I do not know anyone who would pay $30 per movie (Or $3000 total) for the exact same content that used to cost only a $30 subscription. This business model makes me very sad. This means I will never be able to collect this content. They may as well have deleted it all. So PU and TBP webmasters. You can remove Lupus Films from the site. It has been destroyed. 1Ti 6:17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; | |
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| 09-21-15 08:44am - 3380 days | #777 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I reviewed fuckinggamble.com several years ago. PU used to have it listed as inactive and now it is not listed at all. I found at least some of its content on groupsexgames.com. Have they changed names or ownership or did someone buy their content? Should TBP have it listed? It was an interesting site with several very positive reviews. | |
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| 09-21-15 12:58pm - 3380 days | #778 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
Hi mbaya! We don't have it listed any longer since we were getting a security certificate warning when trying to join. | |
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| 09-21-15 01:16pm - 3380 days | #779 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
What about groupsexgames? I see it listed, but is it a new site that bought their content? Is it a total coincidence that it looks like the same content? It is not a member of the same Tainster network although it is owned by the same company. Edited on Sep 21, 2015, 01:28pm | |
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| 09-22-15 02:05am - 3379 days | #780 | |
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Divinx (0)
Active User Posts: 45 Registered: Dec 29, '07 |
GroupSexGames is one of the sites at the Tainster Portal. It has some of the content of FuckingGamble, but not all; perhaps they intend to keep adding more content in a future time? Hope so. I liked Fucking Gamble, and every game was divided into a lot of parts, had photos, and many unique good features. GroupSexGames, at least when accessed within the Tainster Portal, does have no photos, lack of information on performers, and the whole game in one long clip (mind, they can be hours long). So all in all, they provide a cut out version of FuckingGamble, with just the basics. Let's see if they update with new games, that would be great! | |
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| 09-22-15 03:03am - 3379 days | #781 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Thanks for the information. This is very interesting as I knew the content looked familiar. I asked them about this and this is the response: "Dear Sir, We don't buy any content. We shoot our own content exclusively for our sites. Kind regards, Simone". From what you report, this is not true. | |
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| 09-22-15 07:53am - 3379 days | #782 | |
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Divinx (0)
Active User Posts: 45 Registered: Dec 29, '07 |
Did you write to groupsexgames directly, or did you write to Tainster? I believe Tainster has exclusive content, and I assume the same for SinDrive and Bimaxx. But GroupSexGames certainly has content formerly on FuckingGamble. Unless they pretend to be the same site revamped... | |
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| 09-22-15 08:29am - 3379 days | #783 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I wrote to sexgames. info@groupsexgames.com is the email address. | |
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| 09-23-15 09:07am - 3378 days | #784 | |
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Divinx (0)
Active User Posts: 45 Registered: Dec 29, '07 |
Well, then I can understand what they say, that they "don't buy any content", assuming FuckingGamble is now (more or less) GroupSexGames. But the "We shoot" statement, in the present tense, needs be evidenced by new updates. Of this I'm not sure. I can recognize most of the content from the old FuckingGamble, but cannot swear that _all_ the content is inherited. All in all, let's hope they really do shoot, and continue producing new material. The fact that the new site is a barebones version of the old, does not give much hope, though. | |
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| 09-23-15 03:50pm - 3378 days | #785 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
If they are using content from Fucking Gamble, then they did not shoot it. They may have bought the site or they may have bought the content. The old FG site was totally independent, not part of any group or network and was Hungarian. If I remember correctly Boris was the owner and webmaster. I wrote to him several times about the content, as well as their use of English. I rewrote some of their scene descriptions for him. I think that the person answering my request at Tainster did not know what they were talking about. I realize that I am nitpicking, but it would be nice to know that the Tainster website knows about their own product. By the way, I just cancelled my subscription to Tainster. They responded with an offer of a discount-too bad I paid less than their offer when I first signed up. Not exactly inspiring my confidence. Continuing with my Tainster experience, the videos were nearly all well below HD quality as well as having very poor camera work. It was just boring, even though they had the type of content that I usually like. Edited on Sep 23, 2015, 03:56pm | |
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| 09-23-15 04:03pm - 3377 days | #786 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I suggested to Boris that they should have more indoor scenes instead of outdoor. Lighting was sometimes a problem outdoors, but there was also a matter of taste. I think indoor scenes are more intimate and sexy. He disagreed. I also suggested that he should use some models, both male and female that were a little less perfect. I feel that he had models that seemed like they were not mere mortals like us subscribers. They seemed to me to be gods and goddesses carved in stone. He disagreed. Just letting you know that the site was a lot of fun and games, but still had some room for improvement. | |
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| 09-25-15 01:52pm - 3376 days | #787 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
LoveHairy.com is the newest site from the MetArt network. The site features models with pubic hair, and arm-pit hair. The sets come from different sites in the MetArt network, so some of the sets might be familiar to you if you've joined different sites in Metart. A low introductory price of $7.99/month (recurring). | |
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| 12-19-15 07:07am - 3291 days | #788 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User Posts: 585 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
hookuphotshot.com looks promising but not much yet "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 12-19-15 07:40am - 3291 days | #789 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Not really a reply, but a note to Amanda. I would be interested in reviewing this site. Can you list it? | |
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| 12-21-15 09:40am - 3289 days | #790 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Amanda I hope you see this. With all the activity over the past few days, you may have missed my request. | |
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| 12-21-15 12:00pm - 3289 days | #791 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
What happend to pantyhoselane? It used to be listed. | |
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| 12-28-15 11:20am - 3282 days | #792 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
There is a new thread for this: "Sites Not Listed On The Best Porn - 2016 Read it here: https://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...d.html?threadid=4444 | |
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