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01-05-10  11:09am - 5465 days Original Post - #1
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Update Rates.

Generally of late I get the impression that quality is being sacrificed for quantity.

Sure stats are used to impress potential members, but I would rather have fewer updates of better quality.
That said, there are some sites that drag their feet with updates.

I am talking about both video & photoset.

What do you consider an acceptable update rate?

I have my own views, but don't wish to colour folks responses by stating them at this stage.

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01-05-10  11:27am - 5465 days #2
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Originally Posted by Capn:


Generally of late I get the impression that quality is being sacrificed for quantity.

Sure stats are used to impress potential members, but I would rather have fewer updates of better quality.
That said, there are some sites that drag their feet with updates.

I am talking about both video & photoset.

What do you consider an acceptable update rate?

I have my own views, but don't wish to colour folks responses by stating them at this stage.

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I would say one complete picture set or video a day would be an acceptable update rate for me. However it would also stop me from being a member for longer than a month. I've seen sites with as many as five updates a day but, as you say, quality sometimes tends to suffer. What I find totally unacceptable is the practice of many 21sextury sites of offering a daily update that is only a small part of a video and one has to wait a whole week before the whole dang thing can be downloaded. :-)

01-05-10  11:38am - 5465 days #3
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Yes, split updates can be very irritating.
It ekes out content for the webmaster,but it feels very 'nineties' to me.

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01-05-10  01:52pm - 5465 days #4
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This was brought up before and I think you may find some comments useful: https://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...ad.html?threadid=596

However, I totally agree with extremely fast update rates creating boring and crap material that can vary from poor models, modeling, formulatic scenes, and so on. I do see why sites want to do this and I'm sure plenty of users here even like a large amount of updates because they are long term members (I am more of a grab n' go, wait a few months to a year and grab the updates from when I last joined). Honestly, I think one update per week is a bit slow but I can live with it if they are dishing out quality scenes each and every time. However, I am a fan of a smaller niche and maybe I am just so used to once a week updates that I don't mind. However, I do know that smaller niches can be really affected by quicker updates (mature sites and fetish sites) because it's harder to find quality models and so on. Therefore, the expectation to update quickly will bring in poor material and is more prevelant. However, I do feel that sites can do daily updates correctly if they have the niche to do it. There are so many models (top tier as well) these days doing 'young models' porn that it should not be hard to create these scenes. But, I've always found sites that update too quickly to create formulatic material that gets boring quick.

So, I guess I'm in the middle of the pack. I'd say it depends on the niche but the middle road is fine by me with like 3-4 updates a week. Like I said above, certain sites can get away with more or less and still dish out great material each and every time. Sexted From My iPad

01-05-10  02:05pm - 5465 days #5
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That's odd....It didn't come up in my search.

I'll take a look.

Thanks.

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01-05-10  06:06pm - 5465 days #6
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I prefer if there is more than one update per week but I can live with a complete scene being available on a specific day. I don't like it when a site gives you part of the scene and adds more of it as the week progresses.

That said . I would not remain member of any site that only updates once a week. That makes the memebership cost too high to remain long term. Better to join every few months or once a year and download everything that they have added since your last visit. Long live the Brown Coats.

01-05-10  11:24pm - 5464 days #7
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I dunno, man. Met Art and Nubiles.net have pretty much the highest update rates in the porn biz and are posting high quality stuff every single day, for my tastes.

Me, I'm a simple man - If a site is consistently posting updates that I enjoy on an ongoing basis, I'm happy. If a site is not consistently posting updates that I enjoy on an ongoing basis, I'm gone.

01-06-10  12:47am - 5464 days #8
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I agree with PinkPanther, met-art has one of the highest update rates of any porn site (4 or more per day), and their updates are high quality.
I'm surprised that they have maintained a massive update rate year after year for photosets (the video update rate is much less).
They certainly don't need to post so many daily updates, based on what their competition is offering on an update basis.
I would assume (I don't have any hard evidence for this) that their membership numbers are far greater than any other softcore porn site, because of their huge number of high-quality photosets and the high daily update rate for photosets.
Some people might consider the met-art videos as a bonus. But almost all of the comments of PU members on the met-art videos consider them a waste of time, myself included.

01-06-10  12:59am - 5464 days #9
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I would guess that most porn sites have been experiencing a drop in the number of their subscribers, because of the recession.
I would also guess that the number of porn sites that have closed has increased because of the recession.
And that the number of updates has also gone down, because of the recession (smaller numbers of paying members means less money for the sites to get new material and to pay their bills).
There are probably specific articles or news sources that could validate my guesses, but my google skills are severely limited.

I think Wittyguy has posted tidbits on the porn industry, and could probably find the data to prove or disprove my guesses on the current health of the porn industry. Edited on Jan 06, 2010, 04:52pm

01-06-10  04:22am - 5464 days #10
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I usually join a site, download what I want and then cancel the membership. Once I've gotten everything from a site, it's rare that I hang around a site waiting for new updates. Update rates only factor in how soon I will rejoin a site. Lately I've become used to updates coming only once per week, due to the smaller niche sites I've been a member of recently, so this talk of multiple daily updates is completely outlandish to me. ;-)

01-06-10  05:05am - 5464 days #11
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There are more sites hanging on but posting fewer updates than they used to. Pretty4Ever, Babelicious, SexyBabes, JustTeenSite, ATK Galleria, ATK Premium, and the "Twistys network" come to mind.

Some are still posting regularly. MetArt was mentioned. Add in HegreArt, MetModels, Nubiles, and TeenDreams. And some of these sites offer pretty good prices, especially if you join through a review site like TBP or Rabbit's. I don't know how some of them do it.

I know how TeenDreams does it, in part. Some of their content also shows up at Xisty, though at even larger photo sizes. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England.

01-06-10  07:34am - 5464 days #12
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Maybe we're spoiled - then again not...we pay for it.

'Spoiled' by fine updates at some sites during the last years - and, alas - too many sites are now doing worse...
Sites like 1ByDay seems to survive with daily updates that are more too much re-runs that regular updates.

TeenDreams and Xisty also have too many non-exclusive updates.

Some niche-sites, like Only Tease and Co. does a better job, but it's still niche and too soft..

21Sextury (including Club Sandy) do some good, but still ONLY at the motherload-sites - the bonus sites lacks updates badly.

Nubiles are ok to a point - the updates are there, but the material are still getting more ond more boring.

VideoBox is special - but not for the good - vast majority of updates here are video on sale at the local cornershop- videos nobody want to buy, anyway...

Generally fine and exclusive updates are getting too rare, alas... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

01-06-10  10:59am - 5464 days #13
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Well I did state that sites featuring 'young models' will have an easier time updating. However, with Met-Art, I think they are all extremely formulatic with a young model prancing around and posing on a beach, woods, field, and so on. If by high quality people are meaning that the resolution is high and the photography is well, then I have to agree. However, all these photographers are on a slightly different level than the average photographers and the site has A LOT of photographers involved with the site to get a shitload of updates. Most sites feature maybe one or two photographers/videographers for the whole site and updates. On top of that, as far as Met-Art goes, it is extremely easy to find models for their work because it is considered so 'artsy' and extremely soft that most models do not feel bad about doing the shoots. They don't have to masturbate or shove anything up their snatch, they don't have to spread, or show any close ups of themselves completely gaping. Of course, a site like this is going to get update easy. But, like what many will say about the site including myself, it can get boring really quick.

As far as other sites that get in to the 'harder' stuff such as doing the things Met-Art does not but not getting in to any different niche besides solo models, this is still easier to find quality models to do quick updates as well. This is because they are still not venturing in to the realm of hardcore as well. My point being, that these types of sites are a lot easier to find quality material for updating quick. When it comes to smaller niches and fetish material the updates are going to get lower if you want decent material.

I also think the argument of quantity vs quality argument or whatever you want to call it has to do with us all being true porn fans and watching so much. So, seeing the same formulatic updates over and over bore us because we are all visiting the same sites or types of sites again and again because new quality sites are a dime a dozen these days. To the average user, just joining one pay site is like a gold mine for them. Sexted From My iPad

01-06-10  11:27am - 5464 days #14
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Originally Posted by Capn:

What do you consider an acceptable update rate?


At this point, I no longer consider update rates in sites (unless of course they've stopped). I don't even really consider price. Either the content is good or it is not. That's my benchmark.

There's a favorite site of mine, triple-bbb.com , that would piss off most people here, their update rate is so slow, they usually have 4 normal sized video/photo sets releasing at a time, and spread it out in pieces so that it's like 3 full months from one set's beginning to its end!

But the site is so unique, nothing else even remotely close to what they do across the internet. I'd rather have a slow update speed, than to not have it at all, otherwise they'd just be another site with cookie-cutter content as dull as most of the mega-sites out there. Edited on Jan 06, 2010, 11:35am

01-06-10  11:34am - 5464 days #15
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Originally Posted by Denner:

Sites like 1ByDay seems to survive with daily updates that are more too much re-runs that regular updates.


They're in a consistent rhythm now, each week there are 5 genuine new solo scenes on their site. While they have previously put up a much higher percentage of repeat material, for the past several months they have gotten it back together.

01-06-10  01:45pm - 5464 days #16
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totally agree with messmer ... one complete picture set or video a day is an acceptable update rate for me - IF IT´S QUALITY !

My fav MC-NUDES is still posting regularly. Daily gallery updates, plus a 3D series (a really cool new sexy feature) nearly daily and weekly HD videos ... perfect 4 me

01-08-10  07:21am - 5462 days #17
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For me it really depends on how 'niche' the site is.
Minimum I would expect one full update per week.

The bigger boys such as ATK you are usually talking up to 8 - 12 updates per day. Sadly, I am lucky if 25% actually appeal to me.

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01-08-10  07:54am - 5462 days #18
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Originally Posted by Capn:


For me it really depends on how 'niche' the site is.
Minimum I would expect one full update per week.

The bigger boys such as ATK you are usually talking up to 8 - 12 updates per day. Sadly, I am lucky if 25% actually appeal to me.

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Capn, You mention ATK and their so called vast amount of updates....(and your're right about the percentage of quality).
Last I was there they still had these shitty delayed updates where sets - photos and videos - are divided into clips that are updated - sometimes with several days delay - here it's in place to quote your first input:
'Sure stats are used to impress potential members, but I would rather have fewer updates of better quality.
That said, there are some sites that drag their feet with updates.'

Have NOT been at ATK for half a year or so - but if they still pratice this kind of updates - it's PATHETIC...

And BTW: I quite agree about the quality being sacrificed for quantity...in general. "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle"

01-12-10  08:38pm - 5458 days #19
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I wanted to let everyone know ATK does not split up photos or videos anymore. I was asked about this last week and I had to go to someone that has been at the company longer than me to figure out when they did this. We do not split. We post the full set of photos and the full video.

I do understand this was very frustrating and it sucked but that is no longer the case. If any one sees this happening with current material please let me know right away so I can get it fixed and make sure it does not happen again. We are constantly trying to move the company in a better direction for our members and your feedback is very important to us. Owner Kick Ass Pictures
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