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| 01-31-11 10:46pm - 5073 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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james4096 (0)
Suspended Posts: 132 Registered: Mar 02, '09 |
The Explosion of Free Porn Online I thought I'd share this article from New York Magazine. A large chunk of the article focuses on Brazzers and how they own many of the most popular "tube sites." Pretty interesting but disjointed read. "The Geek-Kings of Smut After once being the best thing that ever happened to porn, the Internet is now wreaking havoc: destroying some fortunes, making bigger ones, and serving as a stimulus plan, in more ways than one." http://nymag.com/news/features/70985/?imw=Y | |
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| 02-01-11 04:34am - 5073 days | #2 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Very interesting article. Thanks. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 02-01-11 06:23am - 5073 days | #3 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Agree with Cap'n. Very interesting reading. Thanks for posting the link. | |
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| 02-01-11 07:00am - 5073 days | #4 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Now there's a surprise (said in an ironic sarcastic tone - just to inform those Americans unaware of sarcasm). At the same time Brazzers was condemning tube sites, they had their own tube site, and were looking for more. I have said for the last few years that online porn is far too cheap, despite my support and love for free downloads. I have no moral scruples about downloading for free. However, I believe in paying for porn from those with a good track record for customer support. I pay for porn from the good guys, and thoroughly enjoy ripping off the bad guys - the ones with drm, limited downloads, pre checked cross sells, regional discrimination, difficulty in cancelling, or tricky small print, or any sort of dirty tricks. Who decides who are the bad guys and who are the good guys? I do. Those are my standards. Everyone has different standards. Every time I see pre checked cross sells here, I feel good about downloading that company's product for free. Every time I see good customer service and feedback here, I feel good about supporting that company by paying for its product. | |
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| 02-01-11 07:04am - 5073 days | #5 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Thanks from me as well - Amazingly drifting article, though. Reminds me of things I'd find in free weeklies. | |
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| 02-01-11 01:44pm - 5073 days | #6 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
Agreed that it's an interesting article. Serves as a reminder that online porn is basically unbridled capitalism where the big get bigger and are willing to crush the small for more profit even if it means hurting the industry overall. I do agree that tube sites would still be thriving even if the major players didn't have a financial stake in them and that tube sites are here to stay much to the disgust of most small operators. It also drives home my often repeated point that it takes a certain level of business acumen to succeed in the adult biz today. I don't really venture into tube sites since I'm more concerned about quality, avoiding nasty computer viruses, and don't have all day to waste sorting through them. However, for the casual porn surfer (that's most of the world) tube sites give you a quick opportunity to wank one out without the hassle or cost of buying a membership. It's the minority of users that want to "collect" quality pics and vids or have the one-on-one chat room experience where the money is at. That means if you're trying to make it as a small time player in the porn biz then quality product and good marketing are essentials, not after thoughts. | |
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| 02-01-11 06:44pm - 5073 days | #7 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
One aspect of the biz neglected in that article is the porn forums that are piracy-based. It would be interesting to know who owns them. It's a weird world, since they exist based on affiliate fees and have various sets of rules for their various forums, but many of them draw traffic because of the pirated material that they make available. I would exclude the most prominent porn forum I know, since they have very strict any-piracy guidelines throughout their site, but that's not the case with many of the smaller porn forums. | |
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| 02-02-11 02:55am - 5072 days | #8 | |
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anyonebutme (0)
Active User  Posts: 294 Registered: Aug 23, '09 |
Brazzers purchased the most prominent/most frequented piracy forum on the web. Just not officially, of course  They still operate the same as before, except guess which search word now always returns zero results?Such sites exist on google ad sales, file-hosting revenue sharing, and user donations. Edited on Feb 02, 2011, 03:12am | |
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| 02-02-11 02:18pm - 5072 days | #9 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Brazzers takes the tack of keep ur friends close but your enemies closer. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 02-06-11 04:07pm - 5068 days | #10 | |
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Mr Gumby (0)
Active User  Posts: 2 Registered: Feb 06, '11 Location: DC |
Hey Squirrel. Which are your favorite sites? Mr Gumby | |
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| 02-06-11 04:54pm - 5068 days | #11 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Hi Mr Gumby (Mr Palin), Welcome to the forum. In answer to your question, it depends on whether it's content or customer service. For customer service and all time good guys, nothing could beat the dear departed American Vice. I found New Sensations (which I have never reviewed) to be trick free, although their content is not considered exceptional. Karup's have a reputation for great customer service. Karup's have a great rapport with the members here and always seem to answer any questions. To my mind they have 100 per cent reliability. RealSpankings have a reputation for good customer service, as does Dallas Spanks Hard, although I have never subscribed to DSH. I was more than happy with service from The Torbe Network, although another member said he found himself signed up to a site he didn't join. I thought the webmaster did a good job of sorting it out, although the member (AceOfAces) may disagree. 18 Eighteen have stopped their pre checked cross sells due to consumer demand, it was easy to cancel, and I've had no problems with them at all. The bottom line is I have had very few bad experiences, but the popular webmasters and popular sites here are favourites for a reason. The don't try rip off tactics. My least favourite site is VideoBox because of lousy download speeds and absolutely no customer service, which shows contempt for customers. Others will disagree with my views on Video Box. A network which has great content but absolutely no customer service (no replies at all to any questions, horrible navigation and logging in) is TeenCoreClub. I would have scored them ten higher if they were customer oriented. Ever since I became aware of PU/TBP, I don't think I have joined one site or network which received warnings from members here at PU or TBP. The warnings allowed me to avoid a lot of trouble and hassle. It's the pre checked cross sells, regional discriminaton, lack of customer support, being signed up for something you don't know about, and therefore finding mystery charges on your credit card, that separate the bad guys from the rest of the industry, who are mostly trying to make an honest living. I feel the bad guys harm the industry as a whole and need weeding out. I have no problems with downloading for free any of their material. At the moment there must be about 10 sites or networks I would sign up to, but do not because of either pre checked cross selling or regional discrimination. I find PU/TBP a great place, because it gives you all the information needed to weigh up all the options. Edited on Feb 06, 2011, 05:25pm | |
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| 02-06-11 07:24pm - 5068 days | #12 | |
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Mr Gumby (0)
Active User Posts: 2 Registered: Feb 06, '11 Location: DC |
Thanks for the reply. I'll have to check out a couple of your recommendations. Mr Gumby | |
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| 02-06-11 10:07pm - 5067 days | #13 | |
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hodayathink (0)
Active User Posts: 312 Registered: Mar 27, '09 Location: Illinois |
Brazzers is the Wal-Mart of online porn. And I mean that in every good and bad way that I possibly can. | |
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| 02-06-11 10:50pm - 5067 days | #14 | |
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RustyJ (0)
Suspended Posts: 79 Registered: Aug 04, '10 |
What did you make of this quote: "Fans don’t understand that if they don’t pay for porn, we can’t make a living. They’ll have to watch crazy European porn."? Crazy, is that it now? I thought she was going to say: "Fans don’t understand that if they don’t pay for porn, we can’t make a living. They’ll have to watch European porn with young, attractive ladies who don't need red carpets or act like divas.". I guess Eastern Europe and Russia are to porn stars like China is to industry with the notable exception that the products are actually better in addition to being cheaper | |
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| 02-07-11 01:27am - 5067 days | #15 | |
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otoh (0)
Active User Posts: 159 Registered: Sep 17, '10 Location: UK |
I noticed that one, too, and wondered quite what kind of crazy porn we have here in Europe. Actually, more to the point, I wondered where I can get it  | |
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| 02-07-11 03:28am - 5067 days | #16 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
English porn (with that funny accent), French porn, German porn, Italian porn, Scandinavian porn, Eastern European porn, all that stuff is second class compared to what's produced in the good ole USA. Or if it's not second class, then it still doesn't bring in the dollars to USA porn producers and actresses and whoever. So let's all be patriotic, and buy USA porn, and stop stealing it, or letting all those Europeans (and Japanese and Thai and whoever else) stop ripping off the American consumer. America: love it or leave it. My country right or wrong. By golly, I'm turning into a red, white and blue patriot in my golden years.  | |
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| 02-07-11 05:09am - 5067 days | #17 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
The two sites I have my eye on next are Exploited College Girls and Teen Mega World. Teen Mega World has a $10 discount if joined through TBP/PU. A lot of members here seem to like it, and there has been no really negative feedback. | |
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| 02-07-11 10:45am - 5067 days | #18 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
OMG, another convert to the dark side!  | |
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| 02-07-11 11:20am - 5067 days | #19 | |
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otoh (0)
Active User Posts: 159 Registered: Sep 17, '10 Location: UK |
I wasn't going to let myself be baited into it, so thank you for that comment, messmer | |
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| 02-07-11 11:56am - 5067 days | #20 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster  Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
You can be a patriot, but please don't be detrimental about my accent!!! Walmart... you got it right there, multi-conglomerates, once they get the upper hand over all porn, shut all the small sites down, they can then demand the price they want!!! You'll soon be complaining when there's no variety! We're hardly ripping you off... not when it comes to exchange rates!! Be careful what you wish for, as you may get it! Mistress Kent xx http://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk | |
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| 02-07-11 01:59pm - 5067 days | #21 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Dear Mistress Kent, one of you will have to start using smileys, as tacky as you might find them, because I took the post to be ironic. I am sure he was making fun of all the rednecks and super patriot one finds in his country these days. | |
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| 02-07-11 02:06pm - 5067 days | #22 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
I know x Mistress Kent xx http://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk | |
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| 02-07-11 02:08pm - 5067 days | #23 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
My accents not funny though...  Mistress Kent xxhttp://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk | |
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| 02-07-11 02:16pm - 5067 days | #24 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Indeed it isn't. It's charming! In any case we Colonials developed an accent, not you! | |
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| 02-07-11 06:37pm - 5067 days | #25 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Having been a member of both sites then I highly recommend you avoid exploited college girls. I wish it was a better site because it has potential but the camera style this guys uses is so bad that you'll twist your head from side to side just so that you can get a better perspective. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 02-08-11 12:25am - 5066 days | #26 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
I second pat on avoid exploited college girls, it has some decently attractive models, and I don't mind the self-shot amateur style, but the guy is just such a fucking douche, after revisiting their material I keep thinking I should go back to my review and drop the score... if you like the models on that site and the casting couch style, most are on their other site, and that guy isn't nearly as bad. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 02-08-11 01:54pm - 5066 days | #27 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Pat/Slutty - yep it looks like PU members are in complete harmony about hating the guy on Exploited College Girls. I like the niche of genuine amateurs, but there's been a lot of negative comments about the site, or specifically the guy who does the videos. Can he be that bad? Probably. Once or twice I've been tempted to join, but the negative reviews put me off. At least they don't have pre checked cross sells or regional discrimination. | |
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| 02-08-11 03:07pm - 5066 days | #28 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
He is pretty bad TheSquirrel, maybe not the worst I've seen, but quite irritating. I also like this niche, it is unfortunate that so many sites in this niche have such irritating male talent. Especially when this genre is one where it is almost impossible to ignore them. I'd recommend the casting couch place first, if you can handle that guy and really like the ladies, exploited college girls might be something you'd enjoy. Just keep in mind that the guy at exploited college girls is much worse/abusive/annoying. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 02-08-11 06:28pm - 5066 days | #29 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I also can't say that he's the worst douche but he's in my top 5. It's too bad because there are some seriously good looking girls on the site. Some of them have gone on and tried a career in porn but for many of them this is maybe the only place where you'll see them. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 02-09-11 04:59am - 5065 days | #30 | |
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Peelarry (0)
Active User Posts: 32 Registered: Jun 22, '09 Location: Germany |
I think that most of the paysites have a content quality that no one of these tube-shit can reach. So I better pay for porn and get good quality. | |
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