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| 11-17-16 09:03am - 2957 days | #105 | |
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standard (0)
Active User Posts: 39 Registered: Apr 02, '10 |
Requesting girlfriendsfilm.com (a fame site IIRC) and Pornicate.com. Pornicate is apparently the network of Naughty Alysha and Roxy Raye's (and other) sites. I would be very interested in a professional reaching out to get clarification of Pornicate's download limits as well. The comment section of the Roxy Raye site review had an unusual exchange that was dropped without any real info being provided other than "40GB/day is quite a lot." In fairness, 40GB/day would be quite a lot ten to fifteen years ago, but that's what, 1.6GB per hour in the day of 4K TVs and 10GB ultra high definition videos? | |
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| 11-17-16 10:14am - 2957 days | #106 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
In my review I mentioned this issue. I never really got an answer, but it is less than 40GB. | |
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| 11-19-16 05:33pm - 2954 days | #107 | |
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merc77 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 291 Registered: Apr 17, '16 |
gaypornlover: I am a member of Almostgay.com and it is quite good for what it is. They don't have their own content but they do have thousands of videos of varying types of models. I hope this gets listed as I do want to review it. It has its flaws (a bit high priced) but is one to check out. "Dogs think people are Gods. Cats don't as they know better." - Kedi (2016) Dogs have masters; Cats have staff. | |
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| 11-21-16 06:48am - 2953 days | #108 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User  Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
I'll see what I can find out.  | |
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| 12-06-16 07:10am - 2938 days | #110 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
We now have Met Art X listed. You can leave reviews/comments here: https://www.thebestporn.com/review/metartx/ | |
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| 12-07-16 02:15pm - 2936 days | #111 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
LA NEW GIRL A new site I came across. A casting couch entry for new models. | |
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| 12-07-16 10:21pm - 2936 days | #112 | |
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bibo (0)
Suspended Posts: 179 Registered: Sep 16, '10 Location: GER |
This looks interesting! Unfortunately, there are no preview videos on the site and no mentioning of video quality either. Some info would be great. | |
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| 12-09-16 04:13am - 2935 days | #113 | |
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jook (0)
Active User  Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
Hi Amanda, Can you please add extasycams.com? It's been around a long time but seems to fall off everyone's radar. | |
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| 12-09-16 05:16am - 2935 days | #114 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
We will reach out to the webmaster! | |
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| 12-09-16 05:17am - 2935 days | #115 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
We'll reach out to the owners! | |
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| 01-02-17 07:13pm - 2910 days | #116 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
I was going to put a comment about http://www.actionjav.com/ and was surprised to find that this site is no longer listed on the site. I'm pretty sure that it used to be. It's one of the best and most long-standing sites for full-length authentic Japanese adult videos. | |
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| 01-07-17 10:23am - 2906 days | #117 | |
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tangub (0)
Active User  Posts: 132 Registered: Feb 03, '10 Location: UK |
Similarly to Pink Panther above I was also wondering if there's a reason why another long standing site simonscans.com is no longer listed here as I'm sure it used to be. I don't know if they've had problems in the past but the site is certainly alive and kicking and appears to be still updating several times a month. I signed up today as they have a new lower price of $9.95 a month or $60 for the year with reputable payment processing through Epoch. I'm hoping it can be listed again so that I can write a review in due course. | |
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| 01-08-17 07:09am - 2905 days | #118 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Here's another softcore site not listed: Scandi-Girl. Seems like they had a small group of relatively unknown models for a while (kind of like Fame-Girls in that way), but have recently been getting a few scenes with some of the better known European/Russian/Ukrainian ones. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 01-08-17 11:32am - 2904 days | #119 | |
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tangub (0)
Active User Posts: 132 Registered: Feb 03, '10 Location: UK |
Another long standing site I can't find listed www.nude-in-russia.com | |
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| 01-10-17 08:36am - 2903 days | #120 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
Passing it along! | |
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| 01-10-17 08:36am - 2903 days | #121 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
Looking into this! | |
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| 01-10-17 02:20pm - 2902 days | #122 | |
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gaypornolover (0)
Active User Posts: 153 Registered: Jul 09, '11 Location: Birmingham, UK |
I don't think any of my suggestions for 2016 got listed?  | |
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| 01-17-17 06:47pm - 2895 days | #123 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Anything going on with the one that I mentioned - actionjav.com? | |
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| 01-24-17 02:42pm - 2888 days | #124 | |
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gaypornolover (0)
Active User Posts: 153 Registered: Jul 09, '11 Location: Birmingham, UK |
None of my suggestions for 2016 ever seemed to get listed - I am a little disappointed as they always used to go on promptly in the past  Can I ask if any of them were considered and rejected and if so why please? | |
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| 01-24-17 04:34pm - 2888 days | #125 | |
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jook (0)
Active User Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
Hi Amanda, Any update on this - extasycams? Just curious. Why do you guys need to reach out to the site? It seems that diminishes objectivity. Or perhaps I'm naive about these things. | |
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| 01-27-17 01:59pm - 2885 days | #126 | |
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jook (0)
Active User Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
Amanda? | |
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| 01-30-17 08:02pm - 2882 days | #127 | |
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skinnys (0)
Active User Posts: 22 Registered: Sep 12, '14 |
Amanda might have her hands full since alot of people here have suggested quite alot of sites so far. Annnndddd I'm gonna make it more full. When you have a chance, can you see if http://missax.com can be reviewed too? It looks kinda new and weird too. | |
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| 01-31-17 09:02pm - 2881 days | #128 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User  Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
I talked to Khan about this same question, maybe 2-3 years ago, he told me some sites choose not to be listed and/or reviewed. He listed various reasons including, "site too new", "not enough content", "site being relaunched soon" and so on. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 02-01-17 04:28am - 2881 days | #130 | |
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jook (0)
Active User Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
I'm going to try posting this again, the executive summary. My messages usually disappear into outer space and it's extremely frustrating. I figured this was the case with extasy. But I don't get it. Why should a site have the final say on whether they get listed? If I was a site owner that had bad reviews (or in extasy's case, an unsavory reputation), I would opt not to have my site listed. However, that doesn't serve the interests of the end user. | |
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| 02-01-17 05:28am - 2881 days | #131 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
Sorry jook! This thread tends to get a bit messy and I tend to miss some things at times. Speaking of, if anyone has a better idea of how to organize this to make it easier for everyone, let me know! We'll reach out to the site. It's just always been our policy to post reviews with the agreement of the webmaster. I know that can be frustrating for potential members as they want to know the low-down before spending money. | |
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| 02-01-17 05:29am - 2881 days | #132 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
Someone else just emailed us with this suggestion as well! I will forward it to our editors to see if we can get it listed. | |
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| 02-01-17 05:30am - 2881 days | #133 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
It's unfortunate, I know! We reach out to the sites and follow up as well, but if they don't respond and allow us to list and get access, no review can be done.  | |
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| 02-01-17 04:35pm - 2880 days | #134 | |
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jook (0)
Active User Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
I think you need an assistant! Or make a spreadsheet or some other program listing all the requests and followup. As for the PU policy to only post reviews with the consent of the webmaster, I vote you guys take it up for discussion at your next board meeting. -) | |
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| 02-04-17 05:46pm - 2877 days | #135 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
Anything going on with the one that I mentioned - actionjav.com? Edited by Staff on Feb 07, 2017, 10:50am | |
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| 02-05-17 01:21am - 2877 days | #136 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Back in early December, I asked about a listing for LA NEW GIRL www.lanewgirl.com Did the website ever respond to any questions from PU? Thanks in advance. | |
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| 02-05-17 03:28am - 2877 days | #137 | |
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tangub (0)
Active User Posts: 132 Registered: Feb 03, '10 Location: UK |
I'm also wondering if anything happened about my request back in early January to have Simon Scans listed or if my request was even noticed. www.simonscans.com I'm a current member and would like to write a review if possible. | |
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| 02-05-17 06:54am - 2877 days | #138 | |
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jook (0)
Active User Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
This is an honest question, though perhaps naive. Why should any site be prevented from being reviewed despite being in a foreign language, not approved for listing by the site, etc? Is PU dependent on contributions from the listed sites? I don't mean to sound contentious though I realize there's no tactful way to ask such a question. However, I think the membership should be aware if PU's decision to list certain sites and not list others are somehow affected/tainted by contributions by the sites. Like so many others, I enjoy this site and find it immensely helpful. However, the question raised has been on my mind for a long time but I didn't want to create any discord. Regardless of the answer, I will continue to support the site the best I can (by reviews, etc.) Thanks. | |
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| 02-07-17 10:47am - 2874 days | #139 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
Good news! We are in the process of getting it listed! I'll post the link here when it's live! | |
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| 02-07-17 10:48am - 2874 days | #140 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
We did have it listed at one point. I will check into why the listing was removed. | |
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| 02-07-17 10:50am - 2874 days | #141 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
Looking into it! | |
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| 02-07-17 04:58pm - 2874 days | #142 | |
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jook (0)
Active User Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
I'm sorry to say but the apparent reluctance to answer my question regarding whether this site is funded by the porn sites it lists gives the appearance of bias towards those sites. Frankly, I wouldn't care a great deal if that was the case if it was transparent. Hopefully, this is not the case and my fears are unfounded. | |
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| 02-07-17 06:12pm - 2874 days | #143 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
jook, I would assume that PU is funded by the porn sites that it lists. Otherwise how could it exist and pay its bills? There is no advertising on the site. PU is not trying to hide its funding source. PU just assumes the members and visitors realize this fact. Having said that, PU and TBP try to be un-biased. The reviews by members are written by the members. The professional reviews at TBP are un-biased as well, as far as I can tell. When I say funded, I mean that PU and TBP get a commission, when someone uses a hot link to join a site. Which is common industry practice. | |
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| 02-07-17 07:16pm - 2874 days | #144 | |
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jook (0)
Active User Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
I guess I'm naive for not realizing the funding aspect until 3 years after I joined. Like I said, I understand (to a degree) the economics of the situation. I don't understand why it's not made clear and why a direct question couldn't be addressed. While you may be, and probably are correct that the reviews are unbiased, this does not mean this will always be so. More important to me is the point I brought up before. Sites may choose not to be listed because of bad reviews or for fear of such. It is not fair to the consumer, you and me, that sites will not be listed because they choose not to. I would rather PU be a truly independent site supported by member contributions and that all sites are subject to scrutiny. If this is not economically feasible and I'm smoking too much funny stuff, then PU should simply be open and state the realities. I'm sorry if I am rocking the boat and it is not my intention to do so. My guess is that PU staff don't make a fortune and the site is well run. I'm simply advocating full disclosure. | |
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| 02-08-17 08:04am - 2874 days | #145 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
ALL FINE GIRLS (THE CURRENT NAME FOR 18 ONLY GIRLS) IS NOT LISTED. 18 ONLY GIRLS USED TO BE LISTED. WOW GIRLS AND WOW PORN (THE OTHER 2 SITES IN DIESEL NETWORK) ARE CURRENTLY LISTED AT PU. SO IT SEEMS TO BE AN ERROR NOT TO LIST ALL FINE GIRLS, IF THE OTHER 2 SITES IN THE NETWORK ARE LISTED. THE NAME CHANGE TO ALL FINE GIRLS HAPPENED A WHILE BACK. (I'M TYPING IN CAP LETTERS, BECAUSE IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO READ.) | |
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| 02-08-17 10:47am - 2873 days | #146 | |
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MikeC
PornUsers Staff  Posts: 102 Registered: Jul 03, '15 |
Hello, everyone. First off, apologies for the belated response. It has been my intention to drop into this thread to speak on some of the questions, but there's no rest for the wicked as they say. It's a long one, so let me jump into it. I think the best way to discuss this is to take a step back and give an overview of who we are. We're a company of 22 (and growing) employees, dedicated to the programming, researching and writing of several websites, with the two primary being RabbitsReviews and TheBestPorn/PornUsers. We've been doing it for 13 years and while we love what we do it isn't solely for the love of pornography, and a portion of our revenue is generated by what's known as the affiliate model. This means that a commission % is generated from join revenue of a particular site. TheBestPorn has always been upfront about this, even posting a notification on every single review page("Disclaimer: TBP does make a commission from sales to this web-site. It's also how we keep our site 100% banner free. This does not affect the integrity of the review. If you found our site or this review helpful, we hope you'll support TBP by visiting this site from our link above. Thank you.") The critical divide that I want to firmly establish is that the Editorial department and the Webmaster Relationship team (Amanda and myself) are independent from one another. The review process (including researching, writing and editing) are its own thing, while everything else (prospecting, customer service issues, reader questions) are done by me and Amanda. A similar arrangement was true under the previous ownership team, as well. When Rick, Khan (RIP) and the gang decided it was time to move on from TheBestPorn/PornUsers, they explicitly spoke with us first about acquiring it because they knew that we shared the same vision; to provide our readers with honest, accurate information and let the chips fall where they may. Not to toot our horn, but RabbitsReviews and TheBestPorn are the first and second-most read porn review sites online precisely because neither Rick nor us are interested in "selling" you anything, only to pass along the information we've collected on the sites we research and review, and leave everything in your hands. Now, there are several reasons why a site you recommended hasn't been published. Here are several: 1. The webmaster drags their feet/doesn't respond: I would say this is number one with a bullet! It has taken me literally years in some cases to go through every step in the process; get in touch with a webmaster, discuss the benefits of our review sites and then get them to formally submit the sites for review. One way we do differ from the previous ownership team is we require every webmaster to formally submit their sites for review. Rick and the team would post at least a basic listing of a site upon request. We ask that the webmasters in question agree to our terms of service (see #3) 2. The webmaster wants to wait: This is very common for webmasters of new sites. They feel there isn't enough content, is lacking certain features or simply feel that wouldn't be putting their best foot forward and don't want to tarnish that critical first impression. If you are reading this, you are obviously a big fan of porn and are at the vanguard of the industry. In some cases, I have contacted webmasters based on your recommendations and they were shocked because the site had been up for almost no time. I dialogue with these webmasters and get an understanding of the current situation of their site. In many cases, we're able to get the review done early and in others we agree to revisit in a few months. Doing something without their permission would be a contentious way to start a relationship. Our sites work because we establish a relationship of trust between our readers and the sites we review. That is why we're able to resolve billing and access issues for our readers, and why we're able to get low (and sometimes very low) discounts that no one else gets and why webmasters have changed their sites (sometimes whole cloth) based on the thoughts and recommendations you email us or comment on in threads like this. 3. The webmaster refuses to agree to the Terms Of Service: This is a big one and can apply to many of the recommended sites. We ask every webmaster who submits their sites to agree to our Terms Of Service, which basically states that they agree to have their site independently reviewed and they will agree with our decision. We will certainly work with a webmaster to correct any oversights or factual errors, but the final score and review on a site is ours and ours alone and some webmasters simply can't agree to that. Without getting into the weeds, just know that some webmasters feel if they are paying out a % of their join revenue to a site then that site shouldn't print anything negative or critical. As I hope I have established, that runs completely opposite to how we operate. You will find site review scores on both RabbitsReviews and TheBestPorn that are below 40. If we see a flawed site, we will tell you. I understand it can be frustrating to see "We'll look into it" or "We'll get back to you" so many times, but we don't want to get into gossip about why such-and-such site isn't listed yet. Many of the sites you have joined and reviewed have fallen into one (or all three) of these categories at one point or another. I hope I have touched on all of the points and my apologies for the long response. I want to pull back the veil, so to speak, so you better understand the roles each of us (you, us and the websites we review) plays in this relationship. I'll answer any additional questions you may have below. | |
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| 02-08-17 12:26pm - 2873 days | #147 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
Mike: Thanks for spelling this out clearly. I've noticed, and I suspect that many others have too, that under you and Amanda sites we members asked to be listed can take a long time and sometimes the site never gets listed at all. That is in contrast to the days under Rick and Khan where a suggestion for a new listing brought a bare-bones page within a few days. On several occasions Amanda mentioned that you were waiting to hear back from the site's webmaster and I took that as an indication that you were doing things differently. Your comment above makes that clear now. That makes a lot of sense. You say you don't want to toot your own horn but credit is due. TBP/PU is an invaluable resource for those of us who spend money to pay for the porn we download. I've been aware that TBP/PU gets a cut of many download fees when the member joins through TBP/PU for a while and I think that's a great idea and I don't think it jeopardizes your editorial credibility at all. Because of my reliance on TBP/PU and because of the funding model I make it a point to join any sites through here so the TBP/PU gets the referral fee. That's the lifeblood of the site. I know that it isn't always possible, and I'm sure that most PU members do this anyway, but please, please, please PU members, support TBP/PU and join through here when you can. Let's keep this amazing resource going! | |
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| 02-08-17 02:14pm - 2873 days | #148 | |
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jook (0)
Active User Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
Mike, thanks for the detailed clarification. | |
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| 02-17-17 09:02am - 2865 days | #149 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I SUGGEST THAT PU STAFF DO AN UPDATE ON MEMBER SITE REQUESTS AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME HAS PASSED. IF THE PU STAFF THINKS IT'S NOT TOO MUCH WORK. PERHAPS A MONTH--IF THE SITE HAS NOT BEEN LISTED AT PU? JUST TO LET US KNOW THAT THE REQUEST IS STILL ACTIVE, THE SITE IS STILL WAITING TO BE LISTED,OR THAT THE SITE WILL NOT BE LISTED IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. JUST A BRIEF NOTE TO TELL US WHAT'S HAPPENING. OTHERWISE, I GUESS WE JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT THE IDEA THAT MANY SITE REQUESTS SEEM TO DISAPPEAR,WITH NO EXPLANATION WHY. SO KEEP A CHECKLIST OF MEMBER SITE REQUESTS, WITH THE DATE OF THE REQUEST. AND CHECK THEM OFF WITH ACTION NOTED (AND DATED): LISTED AT PU REQUEST STILL ACTIVE REQUEST AWAITING RESPONSE FROM SITE OWNERS REQUEST DENIED OR IN LIMBO OR WHATEVER OTHER STATUS LISTING YOU THINK IS EASY AND FAIR. I'M NOT TRYING TO CREATE EXTRA WORK FOR THE PU STAFF. OR MAYBE I AM  . BUT SOME FEEDBACK ON WHY SITES ARE NOT LISTED WOULD BE HELPFUL.EVEN IF IT'S JUST TO SAY: STILL WORKING ON THE REQUEST. OR A STATEMENT THAT THE REQUEST IS IN LIMBO. | |
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| 02-17-17 11:13am - 2864 days | #150 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
Will do. | |
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| 02-17-17 02:00pm - 2864 days | #151 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
THANKS, AMANDA. I REALIZE THE PU STAFF IS HARD WORKING, AND RESPONSIVE, AND DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOUR WORK HARDER. THE PU MEMBERS CERTAINLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.    | |
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| 02-22-17 04:22am - 2860 days | #152 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User  Posts: 585 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
premiumbukkake.com, this site almost blew my mind, its like a site I've been dreaming of or something, I think its very new and did read its expensive, think $39.99 only gets you streaming, might be wrong but also read its $99 a month for full 4k downloads. Hope they don't charge as much as that as its out of my budget but OMG they have some amazing cute women of supermodel appearances taking huge loads, love to see some American pornstars to been in the mix. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 02-22-17 01:57pm - 2859 days | #153 | |
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Amanda (0)
Active User Posts: 534 Registered: Jul 02, '15 Location: Montreal, Quebec |
We will reach out to the webmaster! | |
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| 02-23-17 11:41am - 2858 days | #154 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
This sounds like a site I would like. Did you join? If so, how many videos are there?. The preview shows only 15. Thanks!! Edited on Feb 23, 2017, 11:45am | |
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| 02-24-17 04:59pm - 2857 days | #155 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User  Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
Another site that needs a review by TBP is All Fine Girls (aka 18 only girls), part of the Diesel (Wow Girls)group. | |
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| 02-26-17 01:31am - 2856 days | #156 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User Posts: 585 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
Thanks Amanda. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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