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| 10-01-19 11:25am - 1909 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
We want to hear from you - Review Requirements Hello guys! Last week, Yujin explained how the reviews of sites based on content on third party domains such as Adult Time and Kink won't be entered in future raffles. But before we enact the rule, we want to hear from you guys. The adult industry is changing and with that, we've seen the emergence of platforms like Adult Time that host many channels. However, most of the channels don't have the full catalog of videos the site has produced. For example JoyMii on Adult Time only has 19 videos, however, they've been around for years and obviously have many more videos. Would it be fair we award a review just for the content on Adult Time's channel of Joymii? That's the question we're trying to figure out here at PU HQ! What do you guys think? Should we award those reviews with lesser points and only make them available for 2nd or 3rd place? | |
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| 10-01-19 02:47pm - 1908 days | #2 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
I agree that third party sites should be scored lower and probably not count towards the raffle especially, as with the Adult Time channels, not all the content in available. I didn't realize that Kink is treated as a third party domain site. I think that tripped me up once in the past. | |
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| 10-01-19 03:30pm - 1908 days | #3 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User  Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
If a reviewer takes the time to write a thorough review, it shouldn't matter if the site reviewed is part of a bigger platform. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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| 10-01-19 04:21pm - 1908 days | #4 | |
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LKLK (0)
Active User Posts: 1,583 Registered: Jun 26, '19 Location: CA |
How do you tell if a site or channel belongs to a third party domain? Is Teen Mega World a third party domain? Is LetsDoeIt a third party domain? Some of the networks seem to be calling their sites channels instead of sites. Since I don't work for a porn web site, I don't really understand if there is a technical distinction between a site and channel. As a porn consumer, I didn't think the difference between a site and channel was important. But if the PU site wants to make a distinction, what is it based on? So as a PU member, I can tell what is what. LetsDoeIt calls its sites channels. Is LetsDoeIt a third party domain? Are the LetsDoeIt channels stripped down versions of the sites? The PU site needs to explain, or make clear, what the rules are: What you are talking about, and how to follow the rules. | |
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| 10-01-19 06:03pm - 1908 days | #5 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
LKLK brings up the same point that makes me say all reviews should count. Where do you draw the line? If all Kink.com sites are one site, aren't all ATK sites or MetArt sites or Team Skeet sites or whatever all one domain? If a larger corporate entity owns several sites, can you review the individual sites? "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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| 10-02-19 08:28am - 1908 days | #6 | |
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merc77 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 291 Registered: Apr 17, '16 |
I can see adding a few sentences to clarify technical and other aspects of the site one is reviewing. Such as: The site has a model and video index which makes it easier to find what one is looking for. Also, the videos have tag lines for subjects like type of model and type of scene. The site is easy to cancel as it uses a known biller. The site has it so you must email them to cancel a membership. Be advised this may take up to five business days for them to take care of. The above is what I plan on including in future reviews. I also plan on making a comment if the download and streaming speeds offered by the site are low. (If one has an older computer then the site should offer the right speeds for their needs. They can comment if this is part of the site.) The technical aspects of the site should take a paragraph or less depending on how it is mentioned. As for the sites within a site, some offer those sites individually so this is hard to judge. I say case by case basis for this one. "Dogs think people are Gods. Cats don't as they know better." - Kedi (2016) Dogs have masters; Cats have staff. | |
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| 10-02-19 03:30pm - 1907 days | #7 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
Yes, I realize that I've already weighed in but I think I now want to change my vote to "I haven't got a fucking clue." I think part of the confusion for me was in using Adult Time as an example. With Adult Time, the channels aren't the full site that's available at the independent domain. Freddie used the example of Joymii which has 19 videos on AT compared to over 400 in the independent site. So, yeah, in that case I don't think it's fair for a review of 19 videos to count the same as someone who subscribes to the full site. I find an advantage to PU is that we amateur reviewers can often spend more time on a site and will often find problems that a more cursory professional review might miss (like a daily download limit). But, bringing in Kink only muddies the waters. Yes, Kink is now a network and one price gets you access to all their sites but the important difference is that a review of a Kink site really is a review of that entire site. There is no 'lite' version. And with Kink, there are vast differences between the sites too that would be lost in a full network review. Sex and Submission is very different from The Training of O which is different from Everything Butt. Only adding to the confusion for me is that I'd prefer that there be some leeway for sites on a network. Take Team Skeet for example. If the only review that counts (and therefore the only one that may be written) is of the whole network then that review likely won't give a lot of detailed information on any specific site on the network. So I may come here looking for information to see if I should join TS because I want to check out Teens Love Anal (come on now... you knew I'd pick that one as an example...) but that information would be sparse in a full network review. Likewise, someone looking for information on Oye Loca would be unhappy too. So the bottom line for me (  ) is that maybe the status quo isn't so bad. But the good news for me is that I'm not the person who has to make this decision! | |
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| 10-02-19 05:59pm - 1907 days | #8 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
(Transferring from the Raffle Winner thread.) Yujin posted: "Hey Porn Users, Hope you're all doing great. This week's raffle prizes will be send out on Thursday. Now there's some update to reviews requirement that have come up and after a discussion with MikeC we've come to the conclusion that review of site based on content on third-party domain (such as Adult Time, Kink and others) won't be entered into the future weekly raffle draws. Just a reminder that the reviews are there to help other members makes informed choices when signing up to a paid site and I've seen many members turn away from a site due to technical issues with the site itself. While these review offer great insight into the quality and type of contents provided, they overlook other navigational issues that might turn away members when signing up and we want everyone to go in with a clear and transparent view of what they're getting. Mainly: -Website layout -Search Functions -Download/streaming speed -other technical issues That said, this week's raffle will remain as is and we thank everyone for taking the time and providing the awesome reviews that Porn Users Members are known for! Peace" I replied: "A lot of navigational issues are very subjective. Website layout and download/streaming speed are both very individual. What one member finds aesthetically pleasing about a website may irritate everyone else who uses the same site. Similarly, not everyone has super fast internet, particularly if you live in a rural area. They cannot realistically be denied access to the raffle because they cannot get high-speed internet." "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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| 10-03-19 12:04am - 1907 days | #9 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User  Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
I'm going to chime in with something that I think is a big deal. When you click on the $200 Tuesday ticket icon it tells what criteria is required for a review to be eligible. This past week's raffle showed this better than anything. The requirement to receive a "good" (1 point) rating on your review is a minimum of 150 words in the bottom line. The requirement to receive an "excellent" (2 point) rating on your review is a minimum of 250 words in the bottom line. The $100 winner's review had 79 words in the bottom line. One of the $50 winner's reviews had 52 words in the bottom line. Based on the most basic criteria neither of those reviews should have been eligible. I can add another twist to it. Alybator's review of Abby Winters had 922 words in the bottom line. She won $0. While I agree there are problems with reviews of network sites and the wording between a sampling of a site or a full version of the site, why is the most basic criteria being ignored? That's how we lose good reviewers. They pour 922 words into a review's bottom line and lose to two half-assed, shitty reviews. Those two winners combined didn't even meet the minimum word requirement for a bottom line. The other part, network site reviews are helpful. Take 8th Street Latinas on Reality Kings, for example, it has been around for over 10 years and has over 800 scenes on it. How can you say that shouldn't be reviewed as a site? Rear Admiral's point about Kink is maybe the best example. I reviewed the whole Kink network and I could have used another 15,000 characters. Here's where I'm going with the reviews of what are "samplings" of a full site. You can go to Porn Hub and type a site name, say Reality Kings, and you can see 1,500 or so sample scenes 5-10 minutes each that they have uploaded for promotional use. If we start allowing reviews of sites that only have part of a site's full content, what is going to stop us from going to Porn Hub and doing what I just told about? I'll end with Khan's reasoning for having criteria and rules about eligible reviews, "To set standards that are equal and fair to everyone and so people won't make up their own." Which is what we are experiencing. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 10-03-19 04:11am - 1907 days | #10 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I could not agree more. PU has lost its way when it comes to the raffle and eligibility. Quality is not a factor and that makes no sense. My reviews have gotten shorter and I put less effort into them. I could easily write several reviews a week. But why bother? It does not raise my odds of winning. | |
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| 10-03-19 08:23am - 1907 days | #11 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
We're currently in the process of reviewing the rules for the raffle because the adult industry is changing and we want to reflect that. This is why I decided to start this thread and open up to discussion to you guys. Secondly, regarding the Alybator review and not receiving $0, I would like to reiterate once again, that the winners are chosen by a random choice selector. I put the names of the people who reviewed in the week and put it in a random choice selector. Additionally, because the pool is so small of reviews, I have to also take into account the frequency of people winning. No one can win three weeks in a row - that's unfair. Everyone has a fair chance to win the raffle. | |
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| 10-03-19 11:00am - 1907 days | #12 | |
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LKLK (0)
Active User Posts: 1,583 Registered: Jun 26, '19 Location: CA |
I suggested earlier (a few weeks back?) that the first place prize in a raffle could be awarded to the most interesting or valuable or well-written review of the month. The PU members could vote on this, as well as the PU staff, or whatever. That award could be given at the end of the month, or the beginning of the next month raffle. Separately, Freddie wrote: "We're currently in the process of reviewing the rules for the raffle because the adult industry is changing and we want to reflect that." Could you expand or explain how you want the raffle to reflect the changes in the adult industry? What changes are you talking about? The PU staff, working in the industry, must have a much clearer idea of what the industry is doing. But are you talking about the rise of tube sites, the gathering of sites into networks (such as Adult Time or MetArt network), the financial problems of the adult industry (which seems to have started around 2008 with the financial crisis and still continues to this day, with a lot of sites either closing or being acquired), or what? How do you want the raffle or the raffle rules to reflect what is happening to the adult industry? I have no idea what changes you want to make, to reflect changing conditions. Separately, the rules for the raffle, especially the rules that determine how a review is awarded feedback points: https://www.pornusers.com/profile_points.html should be listed on the PU review form. That page should, as I said, be part of the add-a-review form, to show new members what a review should contain, and to remind older members the same thing: I doubt most members have read that page in a very long time, if ever. So, that should be the bible of a review. And it should be re-written clearly, to explain what the PU staff wants the review to contain. | |
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| 10-03-19 11:44pm - 1906 days | #13 | |
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exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
Freddie, I'm afraid that you all are so used to being defensive that you completely misunderstood my post. The part quoted above sounds like a computer-generated reply. I didn't question the validity, the process of the raffle. I didn't question any of that. I asked a simple question about if you all are not requiring the minimum criteria to be met to be approved and eligible for a raffle. I used Alybator's review to show how unfair it is to let someone with a 52 word review win, while someone else put in nearly 20 times the effort and didn't win. I'm showing you why ex-members won't come back or come back and stay and I'm showing you why you're going to lose more good members. That network review debate/discussion has been going on for over 10 years. See here: https://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thread.html?threadid=433http:// I've never complained about the raffle. I've never caused problems on here and as you know, I have fixed quite a few problems on here. I'll keep my mouth shut from now on. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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| 10-04-19 06:35am - 1906 days | #14 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
Oh god, my bad! I really sorry! Yes I'm used to being defensive to this is totally my bad. I didn't mean to scare you off. Please be express your opinion!  | |
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| 10-04-19 02:03pm - 1905 days | #15 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Freddie, Please clarify for me the rereview policy. I asked Yujin last week, and also asked you. When can I do a rereview? The program wont't let me until a year has passed, while at the same time it says six months. | |
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| 10-05-19 04:32pm - 1904 days | #16 | |
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marcdc1 (0)
Active User  Posts: 139 Registered: Jan 10, '07 Location: New York |
I don't want to take anything away from this good question. I see it hasn't had a response and am eager to hear the PU team's answer. Thank you | |
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| 10-05-19 04:55pm - 1904 days | #17 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User  Posts: 585 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
I'm with Loki, if its a good helpful review and has a good number of vids on the 3rd party site then fine but reviewing a site when you've only seen 10 vids of so yeah shouldn't be in the raffle. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 10-06-19 08:41am - 1904 days | #18 | |
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marcdc1 (0)
Active User Posts: 139 Registered: Jan 10, '07 Location: New York |
I also agree if you can understand the content and experience of the site it should be reviewable. If you're looking at cross-promoted content that shouldn't be reviewed since you're only seeing a glimpse | |
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| 10-06-19 08:42am - 1904 days | #19 | |
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marcdc1 (0)
Active User Posts: 139 Registered: Jan 10, '07 Location: New York |
I also agree if you can understand the content and experience of the site it should be reviewable. If you're looking at cross-promoted content that shouldn't be reviewed since you're only seeing a glimpse | |
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| 10-06-19 08:44am - 1904 days | #20 | |
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marcdc1 (0)
Active User Posts: 139 Registered: Jan 10, '07 Location: New York |
I also agree if you can understand the content and experience of the site it should be reviewable. If you're looking at cross-promoted content that shouldn't be reviewed since you're only seeing a glimpse | |
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| 10-06-19 10:28am - 1904 days | #21 | |
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merc77 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 291 Registered: Apr 17, '16 |
I'm wondering if my latest reviews are what this site is looking for. I made sure to mention download and streaming problems if there are any. I also mention how difficult or easy it is to order and if they use a known biller. I mention model and video lists and search functions if available. I am not knowledgeable of all the technical aspects of these sites. If the site is slow when it comes to downloading and streaming, I will mention it. I don't know aspect ratios other than if the videos are of high or low res. I want those reading the reviews to know what they are getting when they purchase a membership. Most want to know about the models and if the site itself is worth the price. Also, access to this one site gives the member access to a dozen others. I plan on writing this in the comment section of each site instead of writing a separate review. Is this what the staff mean when they mention second party reviews? "Dogs think people are Gods. Cats don't as they know better." - Kedi (2016) Dogs have masters; Cats have staff. Edited on Oct 06, 2019, 10:45am | |
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| 10-07-19 01:45pm - 1902 days | #22 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I am still waiting for an answer. | |
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| 10-08-19 09:52am - 1902 days | #23 | |
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LKLK (0)
Active User Posts: 1,583 Registered: Jun 26, '19 Location: CA |
Thank God PU has members who read the rules and try to point out possible errors other PU members may have committed. Here is an example of PU member tangub pointing out that PU member mbaya may have broken some rules regarding a review. The replies are to mbaya's review of Wet And Puffy, submitted 10-08-19. Freddie approved the review, but tangub writes that the review should not have been awarded any points, because the review was basically a cut and paste job of a previous review that mbaya had submitted. The current mbaya review of Wet and Puffy was submitted on 10-08-19. The previous mbabya review of Wet and Puffy was submitted on 09-14-17. If you want to compare the two reviews, both reviews are basically the same review. ----------- ----------- 1 tangub (206) Reading this review I just had the feeling that I've read it before so I looked back and it appears this entire review is an exact copy and paste of your September 2017 review of the same site with just the number of scenes and number of updates changed in the pros and cons. Only problem is you haven't changed the bottom line to match where you repeat the number of scenes and update rate at the site so your bottom line contradicts your pros and cons....Careless dude! I've often wondered how some of you guys manage to get through so many porn subscriptions and reviews because it takes me bloody hours to write a review, often an entire evening or longer....now I know...copy, paste, submit. Do you even have a subscription here because the number of scenes can easily be updated just by visiting the site tour? 10-08-19 09:02am Reply To Message 2 mbaya (582) REPLY TO #1 - tangub : This review is ineligible as this is not my week to win anything. It was approved by Freddie. Ask her why? 10-08-19 09:05am Reply To Message 3 tangub (206) REPLY TO #2 - mbaya : I didn't mention anything about the raffle. My point was about the entire review being a copy and paste of a previous review. Rule 4 for being awarded feedback points towards user rankings states: 4. Review should be unique compared to previously written reviews. No copy/paste material. So you should not be awarded any feedback points for this review if the rules are followed but I doubt that will be the case. 10-08-19 09:23am | |
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| 10-08-19 10:20am - 1902 days | #24 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
I checked the review and I agree with tangub - it's a copy and paste. I have denied the review. | |
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| 10-08-19 05:50pm - 1901 days | #25 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
I'm fearful that this thread has gotten quite antagonistic, both towards Freddie and the PU staff and towards our fellow PU members. If we're going to discuss changes to the review system, that's fine, but let's please be civil and polite to each other. It's our community, and we all need to work to make a welcoming place for everyone. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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| 10-10-19 07:50am - 1900 days | #26 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Is this thread dead? There are unanswered questions left. | |
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| 10-10-19 11:02am - 1900 days | #27 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
We're reading this and will be discussing what everyone said to hopefully make some changes to reflect the worries everyone has experessed. | |
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| 10-16-19 12:33pm - 1893 days | #28 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
My thoughts are along the same lines as rearadmiral and exotics. If a site is part of a network and all the content is available then you can review that site, but if it's part of a third party network where only some of the content is available then the review should be a review of the third party network, not the site with limited content. I can understand why this has happened. In the past a network has consisted of various sites, which are all its own, and mostly look the same. I have always agreed with the idea of a minimum requirement for a review. I understand the previous owners did not want to discourage new reviewers, so set a reasonably low bar for lottery tickets. My own feelings are that the standard should be a bit higher to qualify for lottery tickets, and maybe some recognition of the very best reviews. I am surprised in the current climate that there is any lottery at all, but if you are going to have them I would prefer to see them go to worthy reviews, but at the same time try to inspire and encourage newbies to create better reviews. I rarely visit here nowadays, but in the past this was the most civilized of forums. I am surprised and disappointed at the level of acrimony and heated exchanges. | |
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| 10-16-19 12:47pm - 1893 days | #29 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
Thanks for expressing your views Tree Rodent! We really appreciate it. Once again, sorry it's taking time to review all of this. It's been quite hectic at PU HQ but MikeC and I have been reading all of this and trying to figure out a way to proceed. You will all obviously be kept in the loop. Out of curiousity Tree Rodent, could you explain where you see the levels of acrimony? We want to make this community as welcoming as possible! | |
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| 10-16-19 01:49pm - 1893 days | #30 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Well I would have thought it reasonably obvious given the comments on here in the past few months. Here's a few: Disagreements on the Raffle thread, on this thread, on the politics thread (natch!), on the suggestions/complaints thread, Mbaya not happy, Drooler disabled account, harassment by some on those who don't like the same sort of porn, a comment by Loki on this thread saying thread has got quite antagonisitc, exotics quote about Freddie being "so used to being defensive that you completely misunderstood my post." That'll do for starters. Some of us are seeing the same sort of thing and the tone changing. Not that I'm the nicest or mildest person, but I can just see a difference here, and so can others. It's still mild aggro compared to a lot of forums though. Also just in my opinion, it's hard to force people to be nice to one another and agree to disagree without it being heated. The great thing about this forum is that for a number of years people were polite while arguing and disagreeing voluntarily, it wasn't forced. Edited on Oct 16, 2019, 02:00pm | |
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| 10-17-19 11:19am - 1893 days | #31 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
Thanks for the feedback Tree Rodent. Out of curiousity, how would you like to change it? I know it's hard to moderate tone on forums. It's not the easiest thing. I personally got defensive at exotics4me's statement earlier in this thread because I personally feel like a lot of people have attacked me on how I run the raffle etc. I try and be as trasparent as possible with everyone here and yes sometime it doesn't work out and I admit to that. | |
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| 10-18-19 09:40am - 1892 days | #32 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
That's the trouble Freddie, I don't think you can moderate the tone, or should try to, it is a reflection of the people, so you have to hope the next generation is influenced by the previous one. I believe over moderation is counter productive, especially as this is a place given its nature, that often deals with censorship, and has users that generally very much hate censorship. From what I've seen you are not doing a bad job. People will disagree, you just have to hope it's done in the nicest most polite way. | |
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| 10-18-19 02:30pm - 1891 days | #33 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Six months or a year for a rereview? The site says six months but the program rqeuires a year. I am still waiting for an answer. Surely there already is a policy on this and it is not part of any ongoing discussions you are having. You did not address Exotics point either. "I asked a simple question about if you all are not requiring the minimum criteria to be met to be approved and eligible for a raffle. I used Alybator's review to show how unfair it is to let someone with a 52 word review win, while someone else put in nearly 20 times the effort and didn't win. I'm showing you why ex-members won't come back or come back and stay and I'm showing you why you're going to lose more good members." I think he deserves a response. I have the same observation as well. This is not about attacking you or treating you unfairly. You asked us, we did not ask you. Well? Edited on Oct 18, 2019, 02:33pm | |
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| 10-19-19 07:04am - 1891 days | #34 | |
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gaypornolover (0)
Active User Posts: 153 Registered: Jul 09, '11 Location: Birmingham, UK |
I appreciate that if a site is basically a channel on a wider network, it might seem fairer on the surface to score lower and/or not enter in the raffle. On the other hand, I usually join a site/network based on one specific site. The other sites might be nice bonuses but without the main site/channel I am reviewing I simply wouldn't join that network at all. I have joined a specific site which gave me bonus access to other sites which I haven't even looked at, because the content just doesn't interest me. Porn Users isn't for the casual porn user who will be going on free tube sites anyway and is pretty much content with any old porn. It's for people really into porn who have specific tastes and are willing to pay for quality content. Without this type of user the porn industry would collapse - we're the people who pay for the porn to be made that other people often get to watch free. If I'm considering joining a site which is just a channel of another site, it's still that specific site I am interested in. If I can't find a review of it, then reviews on the network in general or other channels aren't of any use to me. So if people are put off reviewing a site because they won't get any or much credit for it or a chance of winning a prize, they're less likely to review it and ultimately Porn Users will be the site which is worse of for it, as it will have less reviews and cover less sites. To be honst PU already has less reviews, less interaction and less content than it used to. It's lost a lot of users, traffic and community feel. So many sites that used to be listed here aren't anymore. This change in policy will only make that worse - and someone who is not aware of the policy and realises a review they worked hard on isn't got to get them any credit they are going to e upset and leave the site, especially if they are new members, and new members is what the site badly needs. I still like PU but it's not the site it was and as a result I come here less and review less. I have to say as well it isn't the staffs fault if the have lots of other sites to run but they often seem to have abandond the site, with comments and questions on the forum either ignored completely or taking weeks to be answered. So when I find a new topic open to discuss how the site is going to downgrade certain reviews, it feels kind of weird that the staff will open new threads to give bad news but not use that time to answer questions or give us positive news or ask for positive feedback or ideas. I hate to complain but I do find this thread depressing and I hate to see PU declining, and this policy will make things worse. Edited on Oct 19, 2019, 07:25am | |
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| 10-20-19 02:59pm - 1889 days | #35 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
I've had technical problems and sent several emails to the staff of PU. I've never had them addressed or even acknowledged. It's disheartening. "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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| 10-21-19 11:15am - 1889 days | #36 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
Hi Loki! I double checked and never received any emails. I apologise for the inconveniences. Yes, we've had problems with the email. If you need anything please email me at freddie@thebestporn.com and it'll go directly to me and it'll be addressed. | |
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| 10-21-19 11:17am - 1889 days | #37 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
Mbaya, I understand this. Like I said, the raffle is decided by a random generator. I put in all the winning raffles and then I put them in an automatic generator and then the winner is decided. Regarding the re-review, 6 months is fine. | |
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| 10-21-19 11:26am - 1889 days | #38 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I personally really appreciate it. I actually check PU a bunch every day to see what's going on and post anything that I find interesting and might bring discussion. | |
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| 10-21-19 11:55am - 1889 days | #39 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I am glad it is fine. Now tell the computer program. Did you read my post? That is what I told you and that is the problem still. | |
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| 10-21-19 12:09pm - 1888 days | #40 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
Would you prefer I don't use a random generator for the raffle? I'm confused what you're asking | |
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| 10-21-19 12:18pm - 1888 days | #41 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
The rule is six months. Yes or no? The computer won't allow me to post a rereview. Check PJGirls for me and you will see I cannot post a rereview yet, despite that is over 6 months ago. Exotics point was not that reviews are using a random generator, either. He said that two of three winners did not qualify for even one point. Your response to him was "Oh god, my bad! I really sorry! Yes I'm used to being defensive to this is totally my bad. I didn't mean to scare you off. Please be express your opinion! Smile" I take that as you meant you understood that his point was not about the raffle being random generated. You are so used to being defensive that is instinctive. Edited on Oct 21, 2019, 12:25pm | |
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| 10-21-19 12:25pm - 1888 days | #42 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
Regarding the computer issue, I've put in a ticket in the tech team but it might take a while to fix due to the old code. Unfortunately, I can't say how long it'll take. Alright, that's my bad. I may have slipped but as I take all the reviews and put them in a generator otherwise it'll be biased. | |
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| 10-21-19 12:28pm - 1888 days | #43 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
Three emails, one to Yujin and two to you. Repeatedly asking on this thread. If I post as a revision will you count it towards the raffle? | |
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| 10-21-19 12:30pm - 1888 days | #44 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
Yes | |
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| 10-21-19 12:39pm - 1888 days | #45 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
It is up now. It does not show todays date on it. Edited on Oct 21, 2019, 01:04pm | |
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| 10-22-19 12:48pm - 1887 days | #46 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
On my end my revised review of PJ Girls shows pending. Does that mean it will count towards next Tuesday's raffle and was not for this one? | |
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| 10-25-19 12:42am - 1885 days | #47 | |
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Loki (0)
Active User Posts: 395 Registered: Jun 13, '07 Location: California |
Not being able to email you was one of the technical complaints I made.  "A man talking sense to himself is no madder than a man talking nonsense not to himself." | |
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| 10-30-19 03:17am - 1880 days | #48 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
So after all of this what is the answer as to the rules? | |
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| 10-30-19 11:58am - 1879 days | #49 | |
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FreddieAdmin
PornUsers Staff Posts: 0 Registered: Dec 06, '18 |
After careful consideration, we won't be changing the rules. We'll keep a close eye to the reviews to see if there are any issues and contact the writer directly about it. However, for the end of the year, keep an eye out for a Member of the Year survey! You guys will vote for who was the most active member. The rules will be listed soon alongside a link a survey. | |
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| 10-30-19 12:46pm - 1879 days | #50 | |
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LKLK (0)
Active User Posts: 1,583 Registered: Jun 26, '19 Location: CA |
I think a better award would be the best review of the month survey. Or a best review of the 2-3-4-whatever best review of the months survey. Quality over quantity. Best reviews are more meaningful than how active a member might be. Just my opinion. And trying to analyze or rank member contributions to the site is difficult, to say the least. Whereas, ranking the value of a review is simpler. Not simple, but simpler than trying to figure out how much a member contributes to the PU site. | |
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