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| 01-28-11 03:29am - 5035 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User  Posts: 583 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
Would anyone like to see porn sites offer this? I was having a think the other day on what I'd like to see happen to porn sites and give them a chance to stop piracy, make more money. I see some sites offer this already so not really my original idea but I think it would be good to see sites offer. Give the porn user more options, give full site access but also a PAYG option to have them download scenes of the choose, either like hotmovies.com does where they pay for minutes or the chance to purchase a download of an individual scene for a small price of $1 say. The music world did something similar with download sites offering individual songs so you can customise what say compliation album you want to buy with all your fav tracks instead of buying all the albums with songs you don't want to ever listen too. I just think it would be good and certain sites with peoples fav porn stars might only contain a few girls they like and they don't join the site as it's not worth it for $29.99and they choose not to join so the site is missing customers, when if they offered a PAYG or individual download option they would be making money out of people. Anyone think it is a good way to see your porn sites or think it wouldn't work. It might help some smaller companies still make money. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 01-28-11 04:30am - 5035 days | #2 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster  Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
$1???? .. Sorry may darling, but from a webmaster's point of view, you are demanding a lot for your money. I suppose you want High Definition footage for this $1? For me.. a smaller company, this would absolutely cripple me on my bandwidth, the idea is that you have recurring and monthly prices because a majority will download quite a few videos which would be value for money considering a DVD used to cost �29.99 here in the UK. Consider this before you demand cheaper prices: 1. Increase in bandwidth for less money will most definitely cause Porn producers to think twice about paying individual models the money they are worth. 2. $1 is not going to pay for the production costs.. even if 1000 people buy that scene. Location, models, camera team all cost money. 3. Economies of scale.. its cheaper to bang out tons of content to put on huge servers etc. The less porn costs, the less production costs there are, leaving for the big guys to dominate the porn and the little companies will be left by the way side.. thus negating those little quality sites that have the personality you all crave!!!!! PLEASE PLEASE.. stop demanding cheaper prices, as we won't have any decent porn! Mistress Kent xx http://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk Edited on Jan 28, 2011, 04:35am | |
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| 01-28-11 05:08am - 5035 days | #3 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User Posts: 583 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
Hi Mistresskent Thanks for your reply, I certainly don't understand the costs that go into making porn so please excuse my ignorance there with the $1, It was on;t a figure that came to me as I didn't think many would pay too much for 1 scene when they can get the whole site for say $29.99 which may have hundreds of scenes. So what would be a good price for a single download or do you think a payg option were a customer pays for a batch of minutes. All this is just an thought, nothing will ever happen, I'm certainly not opting to demand cheaper prices, not in the slightest, I want to see good quality porn and more of my fav actresses in work and see porn thrive. I was merely thinking of an idea to see porn sites make money on top of their recurring subscriptions and you wouldn't lose money you'd make more. Sorry if I didn't explain myself proper in my first post. I'm not trying to start a crusade to cheapen porn, merely to enhance the options for punters. I'm sure the idea isn't worth the money as most porn sites would be doing this now but just wanted to see peoples views on the subject. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 01-28-11 05:27am - 5035 days | #4 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I know of two sites that offer this option. One is Desperate Amateurs, where Arianna is the webmistress and PU contributor. Scenes there are $5.99 and you can also get a monthly membership with access to all scenes. Also, the Kink sites offer individual scenes as an option in addition to offering a monthly membership. The price there varies by the length, but comes to about $1 per minute. | |
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| 01-28-11 07:00am - 5035 days | #5 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
I know of another site that is working on putting together a "pay-by-scene" alternative. It's only in the planning/testing stages at this point, so I'm not going to steal their thunder. It's not something that I would be likely all that interested in, but it's a smart idea if a site can find the right price point to make it a win/win for the site and for the consumer. As Mistress Kent said, there's real costs of production - a web site wouldn't want to make their "pay-by-scene" offer so inexpensive that it wound up hurting their business overall. | |
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| 01-28-11 07:29am - 5035 days | #6 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
Inasmuch as I personally have favorite stars that I would follow to different sites, the pay for scene idea is attractive. Also since I am on a budget when it comes to shopping porn, it makes it difficult to pay 29 bucks for one scene (though I've done it). As far as a web operator is concerned, one has to decide if people are attracted to the site for a particular performer or the overall content. It would seem, if priced correctly, it would be an attractive arrangement for them since it could increase their revenues rather than decrease them. Using your current monthly revenue as a baseline, offering an additional service of "per scene purchase" should push revenues up since it would be geared to a different audience than what is currently there. I would not offer it as the only choice though. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 01-28-11 07:38am - 5035 days | #7 | |
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Sarah (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 3 Registered: Jul 09, '07 Location: Columbia, MD |
ALS Scan has done exactly this. We recently launched an OnDemand site based on the Itunes model - ALSOnDemand.com We will be continually adding content so check it out! We would love feedback. ALS Scan, Inc. http://www.ALSScan.com http://www.ALSAngels.com http://www.ALSOnDemand.com http://www.ALSBikinis.com Edited by Staff on Jan 29, 2011, 10:06am (Khan: edited direct link URL) | |
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| 01-28-11 08:12am - 5035 days | #8 | |
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fatboll (0)
Suspended Posts: 9 Registered: Jan 27, '11 Location: usa |
Why not? I think that always u can be sure someone gonna pay for this. 1$ it ok. Got a mobile phone? try [spam SIG URL Removed by PU Admin] - you'll like it  | |
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| 01-28-11 08:44am - 5034 days | #9 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User Posts: 583 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
Nice one Sarah, I didn't know you offered this too, I'll check it out, love your site and would love to purchase some of your scenes as I've been meaning to join for a bit to get to see more of Franziska and Sasha Rose. I agree its got to be priced at a point were the website makes it worthwhile offering a service but not too expensive to make people thing, $9.99 for a scene, nah not worth it. I think $3.99 would be a good price or $5.99 for 2 scenes and maybe $9.99 for 4 scenes. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 01-28-11 09:06am - 5034 days | #10 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
That's fair enough elephant, I see where you are coming from now. CCbill already offer a pay per minute option, to be honest, I like the business model, but the price for say a 20 minute HD movie should be $5.00 + dependant on costs of production. Bearing in mind, top level porn stars can command very high fees, say $5000 just on their performers fee for one scene. Sometimes, if you are producing huge amounts of porn, that scene may fall by the wayside and also you may have a large pile of scenes you are just sitting on for the future... that's a lot of investment. That doesn't include location, crew, travel, insurance, styling, makeup, props, permit etc etc. Think about multi conglomerates, the big guys, yes they can afford to have $10,000's of dollars of material just sitting there, waiting for the next fan to pick that scene up at $5.00 per scene... Then think of the little guys... $5,000 is half their company's worth. So, it panics me slightly as a little guy, knowing that we are constantly pressured to "keep up with the Jone's", when in reality, if we charged $29.99 per month, we'd actually stand a chance to keep our sites going. In reality, I NEED $29.99 per month, but we live in the HOPE that our sites will magically pick up and people will see that the rawness rather than the glamour is there and it actually takes a lot more to produce than you might think. Me x Mistress Kent xx http://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk | |
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| 01-28-11 10:00am - 5034 days | #11 | |
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Advent (0)
Active Webmaster  Posts: 103 Registered: Aug 13, '09 Location: Tampa, FL |
At ATK Movies we do this but on a crown system. You buy crowns and then you buy movies. The prices are based on what the content of the movie is. Hardcore will require more crowns than behind the scenes. You can go on and look through the scenes we have and then purchase them. Owner Kick Ass Pictures CumEatingCuckolds, FootFetishDaily and Kick Ass Pictures Please feel free to contact me with concerns or comments, I would love to hear from you. | |
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| 01-28-11 02:39pm - 5034 days | #12 | |
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hodayathink (0)
Active User Posts: 312 Registered: Mar 27, '09 Location: Illinois |
Naughty America actually has this kind of system in place since sometime in the middle of last year, but they don't advertise it at all, to the point where I'm not 100% sure that it works (I've signed up for it and have an account, but I haven't tried to pay for anything yet since I'm a monthly member and it would be wasting money). In addition, if you sign up to their PPM system, you actually get 1 hour to browse and stream whatever you want (but it's one clock hour from sign-up confirmation as opposed to one non-continuous hour of free streaming). If anyone wants to check it out, they can go here. I don't know if it's something they were trying out and decided it wasn't going to be popular enough (yet), or something they're trying to work all the kinks out of before fully revealing to the public. But I do think in the next year or two, you'll see more and more larger sites look to something like this to try to pick up a few more customers. | |
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| 01-28-11 02:49pm - 5034 days | #13 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
I did a mammoth post on this a while back in The Future of Porn: How You Pay to Get It thread where I talked about what I saw as the pro's and con's of micro porn transactions (single scene purchases). Overall I thought that it is an idea that is coming regardless of whether you want it or not and that it works well for the collector of particular girls or only wants to keep a few scenes. The big downside is that it creates tiered pricing (downloads vs. full site downloading privileges) that will probably drive up the cost of monthly memberships in the long term and it might eliminate the full access trial as a "norm" in the business. Lots of issues with this whole business model but I'm sort of surprised that I haven't seen more of this being done already. | |
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| 01-28-11 04:18pm - 5034 days | #14 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
To answer the OP question. As I am not a video fan, I doubt it will be a good way to go for photosets. That would be going back to the early nineties. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-28-11 06:31pm - 5034 days | #15 | |
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SimonSubAms (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 24 Registered: Mar 02, '07 Location: UK |
I've been doing this for over 4 years and it works well. Join the full site for $29.99 or buy individual scenes for $4. I've also tried a few photosets in zips with some success and plan to add a lot more this year. $4 is about the minimum I can ask due to the costs of affiliates, processing, bandwidth etc taking the lions share. Some people just want to download certain girls or one scene now and again whereas others will buy every scene I add which amounts to far more than joining with the monthly fee - never have figured that one out! http://www.suburbanamateurs.com/freeview/ | |
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| 01-28-11 06:42pm - 5034 days | #16 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
I can't say this is going to fit into this debate or not. But I've been a member of a celebrity site for a number of years ...(Celebrity Movie Archives)....see my review. And although clammor abounds about this site's method of member costs' being too expensive ...(paying an up-front fee of about $18 for around 1200 mbs of downloads) I've found it preferable by far compared to the obligitory $29.95 monthly renewals' options. My experience: Fewer hassles and wrestling the webmasters for settling disputes, and, more importantly, no arm-twisting to cancel subscriptions. You buy X-number of megabites; download only the "good stuff that you want;"....and when you need more, it's just another single trip to get your card. Granted, this likely isn't for everybody... and apparently might be a fly in the ointment for the likes of our highly valued and illustrious Lady-Kent... but from a laymans view, I fail to understand why a middle-ground can't be met wherein to incorporate this kind of fare and still profit from it. But what do I know? I'm only good at Watching the stuff. | |
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| 01-29-11 02:25am - 5034 days | #17 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
The original comment was about $1 per scene.. I already sell individual clips and I don't do bad from it. $1 to me with the current economic state would most definitely shut me down, 15% goes to the CCP and 30% goes to the console provider. My original argument was about the costs of porn being constantly driven down my customer demands and the bigger companies adhering to them. I was only highlighting the fact that the cost per MB downloaded by a customer for the little guys is FAR FAR more expensive than those with huge servers etc. xxx x BTW, my site is only $14.99 per month NON-recurring. Its as good as per unit billing when you consider how much work we put into this project. $9.99 if you get thebestporn.com's discount!!!! It doesn't even cover my costs, sales I make elsewhere make me my money. Like I said, labour of love. Mistress Kent xx http://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk Edited on Jan 29, 2011, 02:30am | |
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| 01-29-11 02:41am - 5034 days | #18 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User Posts: 583 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
Wow it really isn't anything new then, I hadn't realized so many webmasters where already doing this method of option for the porn punter, good to see in my eyes and Simon's comment on that he's been doing this for 4 years and it works is good news that the method does actually work well then. I've also never thought about doing something like Celeb Movie Archive do with $18 for a set amount of downloads, they must be just pictures are they for that amount a you wouldn't get many movies with 1200 mb. Still its a good idea. lots of sites I've joined in the past and downloaded nearly everything I see and then you realize that you are never going to get chance to watch it all and movies still remain that I've never seen or ever likely to. First off I now hve my favs and yeah new models catch my eye and I add to my favs list but essentially I don't want these days to download everything and some sites just say 1 model I follow is on that site, to have the option to download her scene for $2-$5 is good for me. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 01-29-11 02:50am - 5034 days | #19 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User Posts: 583 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
I didn't realize your site was so reasonably priced MistressKent, yeah $9.99 for the full site is a bargain and I wouldn't bother with the individual downloads so much when you have a price so affordable for the whole site. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 01-29-11 05:24am - 5034 days | #20 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
I cannot stress this any stronger or with more sincerity, MistressKent....and that is, along with a most of the other fine sites here with which I've been affiliated, and certainly one on which a communication level with the webmaster is so valued, you, MK, stand head and shoulders with the best. We're grateful for you and other of our Webmasters who take an active part in giving of their time and effort to instill this kind of trust and camaraderie. Would that more site-webmasters practice the principles and trust you've so gallantly proven. For that, in the wake of keeping the breath of your customers satisified, it matters not how you choose to operate business, or what you must do to make it thrive. Finally, for what its worth, Oh-Queen-bee-of-submissive, if and when you come up with material that'll wet my nitch's appetite, you can bet the farm my check will be in the mail. Edited on Jan 29, 2011, 01:37pm | |
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| 01-29-11 07:45am - 5034 days | #21 | |
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Sarah (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 3 Registered: Jul 09, '07 Location: Columbia, MD |
We agree with everybody - the price points have to be reasonable. At ALSOnDemand.com we have followed the Itunes model and priced our videos at .99 cents for streaming and $1.49 and $1.99 for full HD video scenes. Some shorter scenes and SD videos are priced even lower. We also offer individual photosets OnDemand as well. ALS Scan, Inc. http://www.ALSScan.com http://www.ALSAngels.com http://www.ALSOnDemand.com http://www.ALSBikinis.com Edited by Staff on Jan 29, 2011, 10:07am (Khan: edited direct link URL - plz review forum guidelines for webmasters) | |
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| 01-29-11 08:18am - 5034 days | #22 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
My main site (StripGameCentral.com) already allows non-members to purchase individual videos without buying a membership. It's been moderately successful but there's no way I could operate like that if the costs of the videos were not already covered by subscriptions to SGC first. As MistressKent pointed out at the start of this thread, the market for that sort of buying simply isn't large enough to cover production costs. I do it mainly as a way to attract new members to join the site, even then my minimum prices for shorter videos rarely go below $3. I've wondered about providing photosets via the same system but have never been sufficiently convinced that it is worth the work. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 01-29-11 10:47am - 5033 days | #23 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Taking photosets that would be a severely retrograde step!  Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-30-11 08:15am - 5033 days | #24 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
Not IF Mr.Graymane... WHEN! 8 new models next month alone.. all on your advice... I may even post some sample pics.. if I'm allowed? Mistress Kent xx http://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk | |
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| 01-30-11 08:50am - 5032 days | #25 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
As much as I'd love to accomadate you on this offer, Madam-Kent.... I think PU's omnipresent over-seer, who, now lurks herein even as I tap this message on my keyboard, is nodding his head (non-affirmative). But if IT IS OK with our chief, then send me a link. Otherwise I'll resort to email. | |
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| 01-30-11 08:54am - 5032 days | #26 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
lol. Ok dude, I don't wanna break the rules.. the sites not even started yet!!! Mistress Kent xx http://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk | |
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| 01-30-11 09:16am - 5032 days | #27 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
When the site IS up an' running, jus' let me know. This'll be a first for me, cuz I'll have the high honor of being it's first customer.  | |
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| 01-30-11 10:00am - 5032 days | #28 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I might be its second customer depending on graymane's review! | |
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| 01-30-11 10:41am - 5032 days | #29 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Yeah mistresskent, a few sample pics would be ok. And do let us know when the site is rady to be listed. I would remind graymane that if he hopes to write a review for the site, he'll need to pay for access. We don't allow reviews based on free passes to sites. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 01-30-11 03:01pm - 5032 days | #30 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
geez what a hard ass...  If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee.If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 01-30-11 04:34pm - 5032 days | #31 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Naaah...Khan's a real Sweetheart, JB.  Keepin' the wheels of PU oiled and runnin' as smooth as it does isn't for the faint-hearted.  If I were in a combat situation and needed trusted assistance on a dangerous mission.... he'd be the kind of guy I'd want to instill needed confidance, and cover my trimbling ass if and when fireworks started.  On the other hand, I'd pull out all stops to avoid putting myself in this man's crosshairs. I haven't tested him yet, an' I ain't gonna! | |
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| 01-31-11 01:03am - 5032 days | #32 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Just curious mistresskent, but given the data you have provided wouldn't $1 per scene perhaps be more profitable for your site? I assume the 15% is the same regardless of charge, so for examples sake: say the average user downloads 20 scenes over the course of their one month membership, then they are only averaging $.50 or so a scene with the PU discount. The obvious downside to this I suppose would be if you have some scenes that are super popular that people join for, but if all your content is equally good it would seem as though you'd be better off charging per scene. If you charge per scene you have a relatively known server cost, whereas if you offer full access for a price users could download 2 scenes or 20. What is the average number of scene downloads per month for your users, if it is high it would seem this model would work for you? I would think the only sites that would be against this model would be those that are aware that they only have a few scenes worth downloading, in which case they are misleading the customer (I am not trying to say that is what your site is, sorry if it sounds that way). I understand production costs are high, but I don't think that excludes this business model for small sites. Perhaps I am misunderstanding some costs... Not trying to be combative, just curious. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 02-01-11 04:27am - 5031 days | #33 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
My initial site mistresskent.com is an online diary, so you are not just paying for the scenes, we also do a lot of photography and write personal diaries and give access to the customers to be able to come and have appointments for free, based on membership. I already sell individual scenes already, but $1 would be ludicrous! I don't search out masses of hits, I only apply my services to the customers I actually want. £1 UK per scene would be great.. but I'm afraid you guys don't like "regional pricing" x Mistress Kent xx http://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk | |
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| 02-01-11 04:28am - 5031 days | #34 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
Oh, khan, Do I just link to images? Can I chuck them up on my personal appointment site? Then you guys can check out my photography for critique... ? Mistress Kent xx http://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk | |
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| 02-01-11 07:54am - 5031 days | #35 | |
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Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
You can post the direct URL to the pics or you can post them w/in your message here by using the "image" feature. When you're replying to a post, use the image icon and fill in the URL (on your server) for the image. That icon is the 4th from the left, just over where you're typing your text. It's in between the "Link Text" icon and the "quote" icon. Please don't just post a link to a web page on your site. Hope that helps. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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| 02-01-11 08:34am - 5030 days | #36 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Regional pricing only comes into the equation if you don't charge the direct conversion rate for other countries. ie. if the price is loaded against certain global regions  Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 02-01-11 04:50pm - 5030 days | #37 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
right gotchya... I shall be posting when I've stopped these stupid hackers from my site Password sharers .. sheesh Mistress Kent xx http://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk | |
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| 02-02-11 08:56am - 5029 days | #38 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
Please remember people, this is my first EVER go at producing what you guys MIGHT want eventually! lol. Yes she has Tattoos... but I personally think she has something about her... and besides, was just sampling my own skills really!!! Me x (hope the links work)  .jpg) .jpg)  (Custom).JPG)  (Custom).JPG)  (Custom).JPG)  (Custom).JPG)  (Custom).JPG)  (Custom).JPG)  (Custom).JPG) Mistress Kent xxhttp://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk Edited on Feb 02, 2011, 09:02am | |
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| 02-02-11 10:56am - 5029 days | #39 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
What a breathtakingly beautiful model. I even forgive her the tattoos, landing strip and shower scene. About the latter, sorry, rearadmiral. Just teasing! I especially like her fully dressed picture! If she should strip down from that to a teddy or camisole, or nice lacy bra with matching garter belt and stockings and heels ... heaven! | |
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| 02-03-11 02:08am - 5029 days | #40 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
Aww thanks messmer.. any hints are hugely welcomed! Mistress Kent xx http://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk | |
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| 02-03-11 02:21am - 5029 days | #41 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Yes, indeed, a very pretty lady. Excellent outfit. I see you have taken shots of her taking her stockings off. That's nice. The removal of shoes & hose is so often missed out. I think it is one of the most erotic parts of the striptease. Plenty of clear full frontal nudity at the end of the set, I hope? Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 02-03-11 02:52am - 5029 days | #42 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
Took over 1000 shots over 6 galleries.. lol so one would hope so xx So you reckon I might have something here?? It's a pretty expensive hobby ha ha ha Mistress Kent xx http://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk | |
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| 02-03-11 05:53am - 5029 days | #44 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Well seeing as you were asking. Personally, I like a range of fully clothed, partially clothed, non-explicit nude and explicit nude shots. I like to see the girl strip, I find sets that start nude and end nude are usually a bit boring. This is my particular passion. I never can get enough of this style of set. I suppose you might call it a Full Strip Fetish? I especially like sequences stripping from casual wear. I think they can feel almost intimate. Turtle neck sweater (Polo Neck - Brit), jeans & boots is a particular favourite. I also like formal or evening wear. Uniforms are fine, provided they are the real McCoy & not a tacky 'play' uniform. I really don't like those. It is always nice to build up anticipation with a few fully clothed full body shots. Reclining poses, both clothed & nude can be particularly erotic IMO Landscape format is particularly good for this, more intimate than the formal & distancing portrait. For me there is nothing more frustrating than a set that starts part way through the strip or finishes before full frontal nudity. Why are shoes & hose kept on so often? I think their removal can be a very erotic part of the strip, if performed & shot well. Another irritation, is the excessive touchy feely & use of dildos. Sure that is all well & good, but please lets have a proper full nude look at the model beforehand without the squeezing, groping & rogering. I also prefer unshaven or neatly trimmed to the near ubiquitous frozen chicken shaven look. There....Feel better now! Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 02-03-11 08:02am - 5029 days | #45 | |
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mistresskent (0)
Active Webmaster Posts: 188 Registered: Feb 02, '09 Location: Kent, UK |
lol.. cheers But the question was.. do you think its worth me having a crack at this? x Mistress Kent xx http://www.mistresskent.com http://www.mistresskent.co.uk | |
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| 02-03-11 08:51am - 5028 days | #46 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Well, I am far from alone in liking this material OnlyTease seems to make a good return out of it, and that with usually stopping short of full frontal nudity  .I think possibly the main hurdle is marketing. Getting the word out that you are catering to the niche. On the strength of the few samples posted I think you may have got the basic gist of what the niche is about. Tease with pay-off!  Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 02-03-11 10:09am - 5028 days | #47 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I know you are not responding to me, mistresskent, but let me butt in and state that the samples you provided really don't give a clear idea of what the average set of pictures would look like. Would it be a site featuring full strip scenes as the Cap'n requests. I go along with him, except for the sweater and boots thing But I'll even buy his view of heaven if there's something really erotic being revealed once that sweater comes off.Or would you just feature sets containing a beautiful model having a shower in one set, going to work in another etc.? Most of the time without wearing sufficient lingerie? Okay, you can't do much about the latter in a shower scene, but the point is: dozens of sites are doing just that already and the competition would be awfully stiff, while, when it comes to a quality site that features a really leisurely strip ending up in full nudity .. that one is difficult to find. That's why I predict that the success rate for a new site that caters to that particular niche would be better. Even if only one percent of Porn Users liked that sort of thing you could still do well if you stayed true to the niche. There's millions of us pervs out there. One percent of millions as steady subscribers is good .. no? And Cap'n is right in other ways as well: full frontal shots are important, reclining shots dressed and undressed are important. Landscape type pictures are important. These things are too often ignored by the average photographer. | |
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| 02-03-11 10:30am - 5028 days | #48 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Thanks for the support, my friend. Difficult to find? I should say so, I spend enough hours looking. There are a few, but probably no more than you could count on one hand & of those a couple sometimes stray off the mark. I agree it is difficult to really assess from the samples we have seen, that is why I went to such lengths to be specific in my previous reply. Going by the response to my thread on the subject, I think there is sufficient interest for the niche, and sufficient scope for variety. I am not at all averse to return visits from models as long as the outfits differ. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 02-03-11 10:57am - 5028 days | #49 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Looks like you struck a cord, Lady Kent. When you get this kind of endorsment from pros like Capn and Messmer, then you gotta know you're on to somethin'. In part, I have to say I agree with them both. But we are just three.....a spit in the ocean compared to the general porn population. My thought on your question: "having a crack at it?" Well, Luv, bearing in mind this is coming from only a porn observer, and certainly not someone remotely knowledgable about the inter-management of porn sites: From a conventional business standpoint, however, I'd hesitate going full throttle until your expectations/hopes are progressively being met and this thing is safely off the ground ... not forgetting to include a fully locked-in parachute in case you have to bale. My motto -- which has broad meaning: "all that glitters is not gold."  Edited on Feb 03, 2011, 11:04am | |
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| 02-03-11 11:46am - 5028 days | #50 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
That one cuts both ways though, G.  I am sure we have all been gulled into thinking we have found the Mother Lode only to be let down after a short space of time. If you don't give it a shot, you'll never know! Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! Edited on Feb 03, 2011, 11:49am | |
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| 02-03-11 12:30pm - 5028 days | #51 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Spoken like a Statesman, Capn. You kind'a got me in a corner on that one, Chap. One can easily see that our UK Lady has a good head on her shoulders, leavin' me to believe she knows where she's going, knows how to get there, and knows what to do once she arrives. With just a little help from friends, especially we here at Porn Users, when she does launch this thing I hope we all throw our weight into making it all she wanted....and more. | |
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