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| 06-20-10 10:51am - 5261 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
I know that there are bound to be variations in what guys like, but it seems to me that most men would be genetically predisposed to be attracted to the most fertile of ladies. Removing the exceptions of people who are attracted to extremely large women or the elderly, does that mean that there may be a near ‘universal’ woman? With allowances for some cultural variations, of course. Or maybe I’m just blowing smoke up my own ass on this. It seems that this may have even changed over time and probably based on external conditions. If paintings are to be believed, the Rubenesque woman may have had quite a following in some places in the 16th and 17th Centuries. Today we’d know her as a BBW. Maybe a full-figured woman back then was a better indicator of fertility since she had more access to food that her skinny peasant sisters lacked. That seems reasonable. But it seems to me, based on nothing more than a vast experience of porn (which I assume is driven by what people want) and asking friends, that there are some at least cultural universal traits. Young (18-30 depending on the age of the guy being asked) seems near universal. Thin seems to be a common desire. Not necessarily athletic thin, but not carrying around a bunch of extra weight either. And this is something that I can’t quantify, but most attractive women seem to have “softer” more feminine features. Arguing against me on this is the fact that there are so many variations on preference. I like women on the petite side of things where some guys like 6’ tall women. Skin color matters for some people. Breast size seems to be a polarizing feature too. I’d add ass size to that. I love a small, firm bum, but I know that many prefer a girl with “back.” So are there any female features or attributes that a big majority of us would see as indicating beauty in a woman? BTW – I thought of this at lunch a couple of days ago when I met a woman who, it seemed to me, would be attractive to all the male population who weren’t 100% gay or hooked up to life-support systems in a hospital. She was about 22, blonde, petite, maybe 5’2” to 5’4”. Thin but not skinny, but not overly athletic looking, breast size is proportional and her cup size was probably a B. She seems to have nice legs and, for me as an ass-man, her bum is a masterpiece – tight and firm looking. Mmmmmmm...  | |
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| 06-20-10 02:00pm - 5261 days | #2 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Probably not.  I say this because there is a wide variation in what my friends & I find attractive. Sure there are a few that would appeal to each of us , but I don't think that would stretch to 'universal.' Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 06-20-10 04:06pm - 5261 days | #3 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I agree with the Cap'n on that one because I see the wide divergence of tastes when I look at the comments accompanying some videos or picture sets. | |
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| 06-20-10 04:23pm - 5261 days | #4 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I don't think porn has a lot to do with fertility. I also don't think that there is a single "universal" type of woman that most guys, especially the ones on PU, would be attracted to. Individual tastes differ. Reading the reviews and comments and posts at PU shows there is a massive difference of opinion on what turns people on, and the ideal type of woman changes from one PU member to another. Or maybe I should say the ideal "fantasy" woman that each PU member likes to view or see in action. Part of the reason why PU is successful is because the PU members know that other members have different opinions, and can accept that. Instead of flaming or shooting down anyone who doesn't agree with their own individual tastes and opinions. Edited on Jun 20, 2010, 04:29pm | |
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| 06-20-10 04:44pm - 5261 days | #5 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
Not to drag a thread I started down a different path, but I remain impressed at how friendly this site is. I've posted at a few other sites (non-porn) and amazed at how quickly a thread will disintegrate into name-calling and stuff like that. I read most of the threads on this forum and could probably count on one hand the number of times that I've seen the discussion get nasty in several years. There are a lot of different tastes and opinions on this site but everyone seems to get along very well and are always respectful. Maybe there is some link between being a porn user and civility that the churches have been hiding all these years.  | |
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| 06-20-10 05:24pm - 5261 days | #6 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
No one cares what you think - so shut your pie hole! Umm... I mean, now that you mention it, this is one of the most civil forums I've ever been on. It's funny you mention the churches - I'm a somewhat regular contributor on the Amazon religion discussion forum and it gets nasty as hell (pun somewhat intended) on there. So... I think we can deduce from this that porn is better for people than religion. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. Edited on Jun 20, 2010, 06:26pm (RagingBuddhist: spelling) | |
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| 06-20-10 06:10pm - 5261 days | #7 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
It's actually kind of an interesting question: Is religion (or porn) the cause of varying degrees of civility? Or is it that people who gravitate toward porn and are experienced internet users generally more tolerant to begin with? And at PU, you have to have a certain level of education, too, which tends to go with tolerance. In my life, I've met the hardcore type of religious fanatic who scowls at university education and who says that "everything you ever need to know is in here" (hands you copy of the New Testament). But I've never thought that religion makes people intolerant. It's more like people put their intolerance into a religion and then the result makes other people intolerant later. And religious fanatics have leaders who egg them on to do things like camp out at abortion clinics and write complaints about Pajamagram ads. Khan doesn't do things like that, but he does keep us in line if we get too shitty with each other. ANYWAY ... I've read somewhere that studies have been done which show that there are universal standards of beauty, though most of what I remember is about the face: high cheekbones, large and wide-set eyes, and a V-shape to the face. I don't believe the study went on to examine legs, tits, and ass. So there's much work left to be done! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Jun 20, 2010, 06:15pm | |
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| 06-20-10 07:01pm - 5261 days | #8 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I know that for men, tall and dark (hair) is the prerequisite for being handsome, in the popular mind. Thank God my wife's taste didn't run that way. I can also tell you the universal standard of feminine beauty when it comes to Brazzers subscribers!  | |
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| 06-20-10 08:05pm - 5261 days | #9 | |
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Goldfish (0)
Active User  Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
I haven't seen one in a while but I know there have been some documentaries about the study of what is attractive on Discovery or one of those channels. I didn't see the whole thing and it's been a while but I think there are some traits they considered universally desirable like synchronous features and hip to waist ratios and stuff like that. | |
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| 06-20-10 10:01pm - 5260 days | #10 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Well, most of your features sounded somewhat 'universal' until you mentioned the blonde hair, which already eliminates the possibility of "attractive to all the male population" because I am personally more attracted to darker hair. I'm not questioning your judgment--I am sure she was very attractive--but in a world as diverse as ours little things like hair and skin color can vary widely in how popular they are to different cultures and individuals, though her height and build may be closer to what most guys would like. It's interesting how what was once considered attractive, that is the heavier, fuller figured women, is now considered quite unattractive, at least in the West. Now, instead of being a sign of wealth and health, being overweight is popularly considered, among other things, a sign of being lazy, gluttonous, undisciplined, and generally unconcerned about one's health, even if none of these are actually true. How times have changed! Marilyn Monroe, considered an attractive women through much of the 1950s and early '60s, would now probably be looked down upon as pudgy and unfit by today's demanding standards. Hell, today we even have certain standards about things that few even thought of only a few decades ago; labia size, breast implants, and genital shaving. Maybe it's all just a hygiene industry conspiracy, and they are fooling us into being attracted to things that we would not care about otherwise?  And all of these things you mentioned are all just physical--what about the other things men are universally attracted to? Good cook? (Important for survival.) Good listener, interesting to speak with? Funny, kind, caring, and truly nurturing? I wouldn't want to meet the most 'universally' attractive woman ever just to find out she has a venomous temper and as soon as I open my mouth she kicks me in the balls and scratches my eyes out!  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove Edited on Jun 24, 2010, 11:09pm | |
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| 06-20-10 11:38pm - 5260 days | #11 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Is there a universal type of woman that most guys would be attracted to? Preferabley one who puts-out...wouldn't hurt if she's also drop-dead-gorgeous... I especially like the kind who convincingly and repeatedly yell "STOP" "DON'T DO THAT" "QUIT, IM NOT THAT KIND OF GIRL" "MOVE YOUR HAND"....... whilist her panties is dripping so profusely I'm having to enlist the use of a towel. Then we have more protesting, as she spreads and lowers herself into a horizontal position...lifting her ass and sayin' goodbye to that pesky cotton lunchen cover. She may not be universal, but makin' you work for it somehow puts that elusive, extra pazzaz in the ride. At my age, I've gone the gamut on femme fatales variety. intellectual to feather-brain; The gimme's to the givers; the hard-sells to the easies. In the end (forgive the pun) pussy lies at the seat (damned those puns) of man's "UNIVERSAL" inate pursuits. And If she's got one that works good, I'm afraid that takes precedence over anything else. I know, RearAdmiral, I've wandered way off the question in question, but it was all I could contribute Edited on Jun 21, 2010, 06:26pm | |
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| 06-21-10 04:05am - 5260 days | #12 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
I'll volunteer to start the ass research immediately! It's the least I can do to give back to society.  | |
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| 06-21-10 04:09am - 5260 days | #13 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
turboshaft: I realize now that my addition of an example was misleading. I wasn't adding the details of this woman I saw as an example of the perfect woman. Or maybe I was, since she seemed pretty perfect to me. (Which might answer my underlying question...) Personally, red or strawberry blonde hair does it for me (it must be an attraction to other Scots-Irish people!). But maybe there are so many variables that nothing can be considered universal. | |
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| 06-21-10 05:39pm - 5260 days | #14 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
At this point, I'd say that any woman who can play a vuvuzela with both sets of lips is probably the hottest commodity in the world at this moment. Like others I've seen a few tv shows where they talk about ideal sex characteristics, usually having to do with facial dimensions and chest to waist to hip to height ratios (see "sexual attractiveness" in wikipedia for a long dull discussion of this stuff). Overall, I think you applying these proportional studies you could get someone who was universally decent looking but would never really be someones ideal. I think this distinction between universal attraction vs. the ideal is where things really separate. If we were in the baby genome construction business, we could get a decent enough outcome using broad population samples and preference polls. It's when people start looking for their "ideal" that things go out of whack because the ideal is a nirvana state that's almost impossible to achieve (at least without a buttload of plastic surgery) and even then it's fleeting ... we all get old and dumpy eventually. A lot of the ideal characteristics are more culturally influenced (sorry, a chick who has a lip plate the size of a frisbee doesn't cut it for me) and such ideals probably have a hidden subjective basis underlying them, such as beauty being reflective of a girls status, her being unattainable by a few elite men, exclusivity (who she is associated with regardless of looks) , and other subliminal culture cues that wouldn't universally be picked up on by your average New Guinea cannibal. We could mostly agree on a woman whom we probably wouldn't kick out of bed if we were all single and unattached but we'll never agree on what's smokin' hot, especially when it comes to shelling out $$ for porn babes. | |
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| 06-21-10 06:07pm - 5260 days | #15 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
Seems the 21-year-old I work with has a universal qualification for what's hot - she has to be breathing. I must hear, "I'd hit it", 30 times a day. Most of the time when I turn and look, I wind up turning back to him and telling him to stop smoking dope. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 06-21-10 06:56pm - 5260 days | #16 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I don't know if anyone will disagree with me but the one universal attribute that I have to have in a woman is kindness. The physical attributes is just window dressing. You can probably find as many people that are attracted to your kind of woman as there are that aren't. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 06-21-10 07:40pm - 5260 days | #17 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I agree, Pat. Kindness in a woman is highly prized by me as well, as is gentleness. | |
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| 06-21-10 11:45pm - 5259 days | #18 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Well, if'n we're gonna go to the "heart" of the matter....I guess, in an attempt to revive any sense of dignity from a previous post, I must confess I'm in whole-hearted agreement with the "kindness" thing. Kindness is good. One of my X-wives had an abundance of kindness. In fact, her kindness was so overwhelming that I fantasized I'd died and married an angel. Moreover, So overwhelming was her kindness, never letting my cup run dry, she still found it necessary to go out and fill others. Atlanta Georgia, where we lived, ultimately became too small to spread all the kindness she had to offer, so she wished me farewell, loaded her car and headed for Taxas...a much bigger place, and one which can absorb a lot of kindness. She gave and left her mark in the great City of Atlanta, and even today if you bring up her name in any local pub or the popular night spots, you'll likely get a testamontal from somebody having been "touched" by her kindness. Edited on Jun 22, 2010, 02:30pm | |
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| 06-22-10 06:35pm - 5259 days | #19 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
You want to see how universal attraction to a particular type of woman is? Go to a strip club with a wide variety of dancers - big, short, slender, thick, white, black, asian, etc. You'll see babes that give you an instant hard-on being left alone while women that you wouldn't think of spending any money on are having guys scoop them up. That's a good thing, because otherwise, it would be a colossal drag trying to compete with every guy in the place for the same 3 women. But, yeah, universal standards of attraction don't exist. | |
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| 06-22-10 06:44pm - 5259 days | #20 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I think you are confusing wantoness with kindness. One makes you screw anything that breathes while the other is a state of being where helping others is a joy and hurting them isn't. By your eloquent description. I'd say that your wife is the prior and not the later. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 06-22-10 09:28pm - 5259 days | #21 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Golly, pat. You ought to know me by now. A lot of my stuff on here are sometimes whole or in part hyperbole anyway. Although I always get my message out, it's being kicked in the ass by exaggeration. If I may inject a little perpertinent observation here: Wantoness or hurting has nothing to do with the X-wife in question. If you'll read my post carefully, nothing there actually spells out or connects what you're interpreting as infidelity. Packing up and leaving me for her home state of Texas might've been her only indiscretion...but who's to say it was any fault of hers at all? The delightful truth is, in fact, being 20 yrs. my junior and the epitome of pulchritude to boot.. accepting her harmless wanderlust was a small price to pay for memories that are priceless beyond my capacity to give it justice. Edited on Jun 22, 2010, 09:48pm | |
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| 06-23-10 07:03pm - 5258 days | #22 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
If nothing else than I have learned a new word. Of course I have no idea how to properlly pronouce it and don't know where I could use it. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 06-24-10 01:09am - 5257 days | #23 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
The Online Oxford Dictionary gives a one word definition for pulchritude. "Beauty." The difinition includes a provision to listen to it being pronounced, too. The word can also be used as an adjective and an adverb. Use it on a compliment your wife or girlfriend.....They'll love you for it. Edited on Jun 24, 2010, 11:41am | |
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| 06-24-10 07:54am - 5257 days | #24 | |
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ciprianlucas (0)
Active User Posts: 8 Registered: Jun 24, '10 |
i guess i don't fit into your statement i like very specific type of girls i'm here for sport )) | |
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| 06-24-10 06:50pm - 5257 days | #25 | |
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williamj (0)
Active User Posts: 102 Registered: Sep 29, '07 Location: usa |
I fuck vagina toys so don't ask me. What ever cunt is on the screen getting me off is the universal woman. Or the escort whore sucking my cock. I love all woman never met one I didn't want to fuck. Will | |
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| 06-24-10 11:07pm - 5256 days | #26 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Now that's the universal attraction we've all been thinking about! You're just the first to come right out and say it.  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 06-25-10 05:51pm - 5256 days | #27 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
The williamj/turboshaft interaction brings something to mind - gloryhole sex. Now while I've seen gloryhole porn that I thought was hot where a hot babe was dealing with anonymous cocks or hands, etc, the idea of being the recipient of gloryhole sex where I couldn't see the woman or interact with her is really not appealing. I've had Gay friends that were into the anonymous sex thing and I just don't get it - I'm definitely not an "any hole will do" guy. I need the visual stimulation and that means that I need to be turned on by the woman I'm looking at. | |
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| 06-25-10 06:40pm - 5256 days | #28 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I'm worse than that, not only do I need the visual stimulation but I need to feel some sort of emotional bond as well. I have never had a one-night stand or casual sex. This means that despite my love of porn I am an incurable monogamist. | |
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| 06-25-10 06:54pm - 5256 days | #29 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I'm with you on this one. I need a kind of connection that I couldn't get with a one night stand or casual sex. I guess that's why menage a trois don't appeal to me in a porn setting or in real life. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 06-25-10 08:58pm - 5256 days | #30 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Well, I was joking (kinda, not like beggars can really be choosers...), but williamj wrote said "I love all woman never met one I didn't want to fuck." I don't think I would count a glory hole as having 'met' a woman, or whoever, and I also would personally count fucking someone as having done something other/more than a glory hole. Though I am sure they are good for a laugh, so they have their place in society.  If you're a fan of John Waters' films I think he has tried to put a glory hole in all of his films (though probably not Hairspray). "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 06-26-10 07:20am - 5255 days | #31 | |
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PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
I'm a fan of John Waters' films - I'm old enough to remember when he would tour when they were opening and I was lucky enough to have been living in Boston, which was a major market for his stuff so I got to see him present the openings of several - but I don't remember gloryhole scenes in Pink Flamingos, Female Trouble, Polyester, Serial Mom,Desperate Living, Crybaby, Mondo Trasho...certainly not Hairspray Maybe I'm adverse enough to gloryhole sex that I blocked it out, but there's a lot of stuff in John Waters films that is unattractive that is seared into my memory, so I don't know why I would | |
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| 06-27-10 01:08am - 5254 days | #32 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Well, they weren't exactly major plot points, I think he just threw them in there for fun, though that probably also explains 75% of the insanity in his films. In fact most of the ones I remember a guy would stick his offending member through the gloryhole (usually in restrooms) and then the female on the receiving end would see it and run away screaming at the top of her lungs. I just thought of it because I saw a recent newspaper article about his new nonfiction book "Role Models." Hard to believe he's now 64, but his films will hopefully be disturbing unsuspecting viewers for centuries to come!  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 06-27-10 08:02pm - 5254 days | #33 | |
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Sevrin (0)
Active User  Posts: 80 Registered: May 30, '10 |
Hmm. Open a thread on the most universally attractive woman and find a discussion of John Waters. I'll leave you gentlemen to it, then. | |
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| 06-27-10 11:30pm - 5253 days | #34 | |
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james4096 (0)
Suspended Posts: 132 Registered: Mar 02, '09 |
There was a gloryhole in Serial Mom in fact. The guy in the bathroom was waiting for an encounter and ended up witnessing Beverly's crime through the gloryhole. It wasn't that obvious and probably not emphasized because it was his most mainstream film. But yeah, he kinda throws little gags and references in his films that aren't that important, but a few people will get them. | |
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| 06-28-10 10:13am - 5253 days | #35 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User  Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
It is all about the money. There are goes that are great looking with no money and no women. Tiger Woods, ugly, loads of money loads of chicks. New Ferraris take a 2 up to a 10 instantly. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 06-28-10 10:03pm - 5252 days | #36 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Yeah, that was one of them, though the gloryhole never saw its true 'glory.' That part of the film also had a Traci Lords' cameo appearance (she's the murder victim's girlfriend). He also had a scene with a modified gloryhole in "Desperate Living" where Mink Stole's character goes into the restroom of Mortville's bar and a woman puts her breasts through a pair of titty gloryholes. Gotta love John Waters! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 06-28-10 10:06pm - 5252 days | #37 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
This is pretty typical for us; start a thread and within a week a couple of us will have taken it into a U-turn and then all bets are off...  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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