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| 01-07-13 04:36pm - 4366 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
Value for money on porn sites. Is this the golden age? Some recent comments that I read on this forum, and some comments I made in recent reviews, caused me to think about the value of internet porn. That’s value as in value for money, not moral value. When I write a review one thing I try to do is give a sense of whether the site provides decent value for a prospective member: is there good bang for the buck, if you’ll excuse the unintentional pun. The thought came up when I was writing a review for Hardcore Doorway and was thinking if a site that pretty much doesn’t update any longer and has a lot of older stuff can be a good value. I know there are those who disagree with me, but I think that the fact that a site doesn’t update is just one factor in determining value. So that got me to thinking about how I assess value. Value relative to what? Obviously the answer to that question is value in relation to similar sites. But that led me to think about value relative to the old days, which led me to the inevitable conclusion that things are so much better now than they used to be. Remember the bad old days? Your porn collection was a stash of magazines. Or VHS tapes, or DVDs. Whatever the medium they took up a lot of space and were almost instantly identifiable as porn. And to access this stuff you had to put on your trench coat and go to the local smut shop, assuming you were lucky enough to live in a town where the good Christian town fathers would allow such a thing (they got theirs through the mail I suppose). And the price. A VHS or DVD movie could set you back the cost of a good membership now. So contrast the bad old days with today and I wonder if my worry about value makes any sense. Even if the site wasn’t updating, I had access to over 500 scenes for $20. That’s an amazing value. And I did so from the comfort of my home where, if my neighbours looked in I could tell them that I was searching for biblical prophecy clues. Add to that that I have roughly the storage space of 800 DVDs sitting on my desk (the others are safely locked away) that don’t scream to passersby “Hey! I’m full of porn! Dirty, filthy porn that only a sick pervert would look at!” I know that these are dark days what with the tube and torrent sites kicking the crap out of legitimate adult businesses, and governments being swayed by zealots and soccer moms to crack down, but these are still pretty good days for porn buyers. Any thoughts? | |
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| 01-07-13 05:42pm - 4366 days | #2 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I agree that the internet and advancing computer technology made porn much cheaper, and more accessible, as well as providing an amazing amount of different niches in photos and videos. But as far as the business of porn, there's no denying that, based on anecdotal evidence, many porn sites seem to be really hurting from the current economic downturn, as well as possible anti-porn laws and enforcement. Yes, a site that has a large amount of backlog content might be good for a one-month subscription. But I doubt that many sites will be financially stable on a one-month membership model. Although I do realize that there are many sites out there that do not update their contents. If those sites not updating are part of a network, then the other sites in the network that do update are basically the only hope for repeat business. Several members have posted in the past that if there were no new porn, they could still have the satisfaction of their porn stash. But I think that's really wishful thinking. Fresh porn is more valuable than porn you've already seen, all other things being equal. Perhaps that's an overly broad statement, in psychology, but I believe there's a lot of truth to that statement. I'm not saying that there's not a lot of great porn that was produced in the past, in photos and videos. But most of us here at PU are always looking to join and rejoin sites that we might like. To put it in a slightly different way: if there were no new movies being made, we could always watch the movies that were already made. On TV, cable, DVD, streaming, whatever. But it's human nature to still watch the new movies that come out. Even though we've been making movies for over 100 years already. Edited on Jan 07, 2013, 05:48pm | |
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| 01-07-13 06:39pm - 4366 days | #3 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I am one of those who says unequivocally "yes." I am old enough to remember how expensive porn was. The value for money today is quite ridiculous in comparison. On the other hand, porn is now a very competitive market, with a big mix of professionals, amateurs, semi pros and semi amateurs. I want to see the pre-checked cross sellers, regional discriminators, and other kinds of rip off artists and crooks, go out of business, and go out of business fast, leaving a clean healthy fat free porn industry, scum-free. I would much rather pay $50 to a site that I know is not going to try and trick me, than pay $10 to one who is not to be trusted. I have limited time to watch porn, so I don't want to spend hours of that time trying to cancel credit cards, writing letters of complaint, or trying to get access to that material. This has been the golden age of porn, and imo, still is. For how much longer I don't know. Obviously there are powers out there, who want to impose their superior morality on those of us who are of inferior mind and morality. They will want to gain control of the internet, as control means money. I think they will eventually impose their morality, and at the same time make money from the internet. I do rather like the idea of being able to publish the address of one of those moral guardians, or maybe one of those politically correct fascists, or a local councillor who made some money out of his office by taking back handers and dumping on the rest of us, along with just a hint of a suggestion that someone should give them a visit and kick the living shit out of them. Irresponsible? Oh yes. That sort of thing is being cracked down on, but I have to admit I quite liked that wild west sort of thing. Edited on Jan 08, 2013, 10:12am | |
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| 01-07-13 06:48pm - 4366 days | #4 | |
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KET924aab (0)
Active User Posts: 60 Registered: Dec 18, '12 Location: California, USA |
Yes Admiral, IMHO it is the golden age. The Fort Knox of golden ages. I remember the days of perusing mags at the local adult store. I would often look through a dozen mags just to find one to buy--and that was usually just for one or two photo spreads, sometimes just for one or two photos. I was always amazed at the incompetence of editors in selecting good photos. In those days, each girl had maybe 6 to 8 pages of photos, with about 20 to 25 total photos. Today, the average photo set has well over 100 shots. In the better sites, they almost always have the photos/poses I prefer. Each model has multiple photo sets (and videos), and most sites have 100s if not 1000s of models. There are thousands of websites out there, with each niche catered to by dozens to 100s of sites. For video, I remember paying $5 a tape to rent a VHS tape. That was in addition to an annual fee at whatever shop it was. All you had to go by was a few photos on the box. Disappointment on viewing the tape when you got home was common. Today, $20 to $30 gets you access to hundreds or thousands of HD quality videos, and you can preview them with a flash player before downloading them for your permanent collection. Many magazines have gone out of business--they just can't compete with digital porn. And I really don't know why anyone rents videos from a bricks and mortar shop anymore. Why bother getting in your car and driving over to the seedy side of town, when you can just point and click from the comfort of your own home. I wonder if any of the shops I used to go are even there any more-I doubt it. I'm old enough to remember the first IBM and Apple desktop computers in the late 70s and early 80s. In those days no one could have even dreamed about the internet that we have today. It really is incredible. Sometimes its almost laughable how we nitpick the shortcomings of the sites we review. Today's porn is hugely better in terms of both quality and value than what we had in the old days. And I am of the opinion that it will only get better. These are great times that we live in! | |
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| 01-08-13 09:12am - 4366 days | #5 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
IMO it is good, but not as good as it has been. A few years ago I regularly had between 4 & 6 subscriptions active. Now, I could not find that many sites regularly supplying the kind of material I like, & in any case the increases in price ' Regional Pricing  ' have lessened the appeal.Now I am lucky if I have 2 on the go at once. To answer the question. From my point of view, I think we have had the golden age. It finished a couple of years back. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-08-13 02:57pm - 4366 days | #6 | |
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Reveen (0)
Active User Posts: 96 Registered: Apr 06, '09 |
Yes, we've conversed on the regional pricing thread once or twice  I too used to subscribe to 5 or 6 a month and for a most of 2011-12 I was down to zero sites. I've currently at 3 sites now which is probably the most I've subscribed to for 3 years. All of those sites are ones that have had some form of regional pricing but by dint of vigilance and some luck I've gotten on special offers. The ordinary Joe Blows who don't frequent sites like PU and TBP are the ones getting royally ripped off. But...as the thread OP says, the value for money NOW, even with regional pricing is so far in excess of what it was only little more than a decade ago. I started getting porn in the late 90's and I'd get maybe 5 or 6 magazines a month and they'd be about £8 each. Videos would be about £30-40 for a good 4 hour tape and you'd feel privileged to find a good one! I hear some social commentators complain now about the availability of porn corrupting young people, and that is a genuine concern. But, porn is and always has been rated 18+, it is up to parents to make sure that they're kids are not getting a hold of porn, you can't blame legal consumers of porn for what the rest of society does. For adults, more people seem to be realising that porn is not an essentially harmful thing, and that if its treated in an open and honest way that it can be beneficial rather than harmful to a relationship. Far from being an issue with my other half, me getting off to porn is part of the relationship, so much so that she regularly buys me books of erotic photography as xmas presents  | |
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| 01-08-13 03:41pm - 4366 days | #7 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Perhaps I should expand a little on my previous post. Whilst the internet connections & quality of content have vastly improved over the last few years, I feel the variety has decreased with the increasing perceived; and well over resourced  ; demand for harder & harder material. This has lead to relatively reduced choice & material in the softer niches. There is a residual amount of non-nude successful sites, but the softer full nude sites have taken a real squeeze from highly efficient niche non-nude material on the one side & the seemingly endless baying for hardcore on the other. Softcore full nude eroticism has taken a real beating over the last decade & sincerely needs to make a comeback, IMO. As I said, for me the golden age has passed....I'm hoping my niche will rally & make something of a comeback.  Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-08-13 07:17pm - 4365 days | #8 | |
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BubbaGump (0)
Active User  Posts: 109 Registered: Jan 08, '12 Location: USA |
I think it depends on what you value most in erotic content. If you are driven by quantity, the answer is probably going to be yes. If you prefer videos over photography the answer will probably also be yes. For me, however, I have to answer in the negative. IMO, there is too much focus on volume and not enough focus on quality. The art of still photography has also taken a back seat to an in-your-face video style. Today, anyone with a modern cell phone that takes HD video can point the phone and take closeups of copulating genitals and make a production. Many models today are also too plasticised. Plastic boobs, plastic butts, botox lips and genitalia that has been shaved clean. Sometimes the models look like computer generated images from a Hollywood F/X production. And what's up with tattoos? When you do come across a woman with a natural beauty and form, she has some god-awfull tattoo running down her arms with piercing in her nipples. You might as well take a box of Crayola crayons into the Sistine Chapel and deface the artwork. Today's porn is almost all hardcore and the focus on the erotic beauty of the female body has been replaced with repetitive and formulatic displays of raw sex, minus the passion. Nothing is left to the imagination and the action is immediate. Anyways, sorry for the negative opinion. I am getting old and like a lot of people who are getting old, I complain about all this racket that kids listen to today and the weird haristyles. Excuse me while I scream at the neighborhood kids to stop skateboarding on my driveway.  | |
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| 01-12-13 12:02pm - 4362 days | #9 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I am definitely with you on that one, Bubba!  What would be nice is today's quality stills in a pin-up style, but going to full frontal nudity. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-12-13 12:19pm - 4362 days | #10 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Nice post, BubbaGump! I am with you all the way on this one! I especially like: "IMO, there is too much focus on volume and not enough focus on quality." I just dropped a subscription with two months to go because while the volume was there (ten picture sets a day) there was a monotonous sameness to them all. But I am really getting old, so maybe it is just me.  | |
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| 01-12-13 01:00pm - 4362 days | #11 | |
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Reveen (0)
Active User Posts: 96 Registered: Apr 06, '09 |
I'd pretty much agree with that, and I don't think its a sign or age  Oftentimes I'll check out a site and see some models I like but because they only have a set or two or a video or two each I won't bother subscribing because it just isn't worth it. I'd rather have 20 sets of a model I really liked rather than have 1 set each from 20 models, of who I might really like maybe 2 or 3. Some sites seem to have this idea that they must churn through as many models as possible whereas I think there is a lot of customers out there who like to see the same girl in different outfits or different situations or whatever. I'd agree with Bubbagump about the tattoos, piercings, plastic tits, collagen lips etc, just don't like them. Fake tan is another thing that pisses me off, fair enough if a model has a natural tan but some sites, like ddfbusty are terrible for having their models with too much makeup plastered on and with having an awful orange skin colour  | |
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| 01-12-13 02:06pm - 4362 days | #12 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
I'm rather surprised not more hasn't been offered relating to this thread that would expanded to what I can only describe (for lack of it's actual credentials) as "sensory sex" ...... Simply put, One is provided some sort of head-gear that tunes him into a 3-D cyber scenario wherein he's actually experiencing real-time sexual action with his favorite porn star. Sounds mind-blowing! Needless to say, I suspect venturing into a program of this nature is far-an-away different from the industry's garden-variety subscriptions we review and talk about here -- naturally from a cost perspective and it's touted, sensory innovations. So..... anybody know much about this phenomenon? | |
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| 01-12-13 03:58pm - 4361 days | #13 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Sorry to disappoint you on that, G, but I don't think that is fully developed for mainstream gaming yet; let alone our 'greyer' area. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-12-13 04:24pm - 4361 days | #14 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
I dimly recall, it was over 10 years ago now, there was a lot of talk about virtual reality for individual users with their PCs. I'm sure that people are working in this area for non-porn applications. But how soon we will have practical applications that are reasonably priced is anybody's guess. If they do get non-porn applications, I would think that the porn world would jump on this. Having said that, virtual reality will come in the future. Increasing broadband access, cloud technology, and other advances will all help to make it a reality. Edited on Jan 12, 2013, 04:44pm | |
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| 01-12-13 05:57pm - 4361 days | #15 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Agreed again, I have never subscribed to DDF because in all the samples I looked at the women wore way too much makeup! A bit too much glamor for my taste. | |
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| 01-12-13 06:25pm - 4361 days | #16 | |
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Reveen (0)
Active User Posts: 96 Registered: Apr 06, '09 |
I subscribed to ddf a while back just to get the Wendy Star updates but the way they had her done up made her look pretty awful and the same goes for the other models. It put me right off ever subbing to that site again unless they completely change their style. | |
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| 01-13-13 07:25am - 4361 days | #17 | |
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KET924aab (0)
Active User Posts: 60 Registered: Dec 18, '12 Location: California, USA |
There have definitely been negative trends in porn over the last decade, particularly in hardcore porn: the general trend toward more extreme and sometime abusive sex, too much anal sex, gagging blow jobs, extremely large dildos and fisting, pissing, speculums, etc. I also don't like what some models do themselves with the excessive tattoos and piercings. I think fake boobs are acutally less common than they used to be, or maybe it's just I won't subscribe to a site where they are prominently featured. I don't like very much current hardcore porn, but hardcore porn has never been my first choice in porn. I'd much rather see a beautiful girl do a slow sexy strip proceeding to full nudity with some good closeups, and ending with masturbation to a real orgasm. But the postives outweigh the negatives for me. While its true that the perfect porn site doesn't exist, I am still able to find large amounts of quality material that I like. And this is for a price that is way cheaper in comparison to what would have been paid 15 to 20 years ago. | |
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| 01-13-13 11:53am - 4361 days | #18 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Certainly with you on that, my friend. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-13-13 01:59pm - 4361 days | #19 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
^ This is one thing I don't understand about you, Cap'n, or Reveen. I grant you that some models do look prettier than others but would you really want twenty sets of one, especially since the clothes they wear from set to set, as well as the postures, are often almost identical these days? The body remains the same so you are just staring at something you're already familiar with from the first set on. If, on the other hand, you collect 20 different models, at least the body shapes are different from set to set, even if they too should wear similar clothes. Not trying to be confrontational, my friends. Just a different way of looking at things. | |
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| 01-13-13 03:34pm - 4361 days | #20 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I have no issue, as long as they mix up the outfits. Formal, casual, uniform etc. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-13-13 06:00pm - 4360 days | #21 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I'm with you on that one, trouble is the site we've been talking about in another place have (mostly) NOT been mixing the outfits up, except for one photographer. | |
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| 01-13-13 06:47pm - 4360 days | #22 | |
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Reveen (0)
Active User Posts: 96 Registered: Apr 06, '09 |
Its a good question and a fair line of thought to examine. I think that can depend on the charisma of the model and the creativity of the photographer/videographer. I think where you have a situation where a model is booked for x amount of time and the photographer/videographer wants to do as many sets of photos and video clips as possible in that limited time then even the prettiest model could get samey. A problem with some sites is that they use the same location, the same outfits, the same lighting...but they do this with multiple models so all their sets end up looking samey over the course of multiple models. However where the photographer/videographer mixes things up in regards to locations, indoor/outdoor, set design, lighting, clothing etc then this freshens things up. If depends on the creativity and skill of the person producing the photos and videos, models can look very different in different locations and under different lighting conditions. Also, the enthusiasm and charisma of the model matters, if they are at ease with themselves and with the photographer/videographer then they can be confident to do different things on camera and do things from experience rather than needing to always take direction. When you have a model/actress who displays these attributes then its a pleasure to see them again and again. As well, if you follow a model/actress over the course of several years then they can change quite a bit, weight gets gained or lost, hair colour and length changes, they have a pubic bush then they shave then they grow out a landing strip etc etc so the body definitely doesn't stay the same. To add to that bear in mind that a lot of people gravitate to certain body types or facial features or whatever so certain other body types or facial features won't appeal to them. There is such a variation in body types that even someone who likes multiple types will find that there are a number of types that don't appeal. Wow, this answer ended up being longer than I thought it would be but thats because its a thought-provoking question | |
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| 01-14-13 10:24am - 4360 days | #23 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Thanks, Reveen. Your answer is thought-provoking as well, and I actually agree with much you have to say. I guess my question was provoked by the assembly line updates in a site I quit only recently. They had a handful of models they showed over and over, one of them actually has 59 sets to offer so far, probably up to 65 since I last looked. Now if that model wore normal, everyday clothes in one set, a nightie in another, erotic lingerie in a third, a dress in a fourth etc. then I could see the reason for collecting, but with most models (on that particular site) it was mostly a top, no bra, a jean skirt or jeans, occasionally worn with panties, but most of the time going commando, from set to boring set. I admit, as usual, to hyperbole in order to make a point .. but I am not exaggerating by much. I guess what I need is a high class picture site with a bunch of great models, but more importantly, with a bunch of inventive photographers who will make the effort to present the model a bit differently in each set. And who will stop assuming that the viewer can't wait to get to the choice bits and therefore ignore the erotic tease factor altogether in favour of a series of nude shots. | |
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| 01-14-13 01:11pm - 4360 days | #24 | |
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Thomas20 (0)
Active User Posts: 60 Registered: Dec 27, '09 Location: England |
I agree with rear admiral and luv lickn clit on this one. I also agree with the posters above who have said that the quality of the albeit cheap to buy material is oftentimes pretty poor. Not in technical super duper hi res quality but that same old do it by numbers stuff performed by people who look disinterested and filmed by people with no technical skills whatsoever with no sets and no build up. A good episode of Fawlty Towers with lots of scenes with Polly in is more erotic than a lot of it. It doesn't matter if its super hi res because if the content is crap you just get to see more clearly how bad it really is ! But there are some good modern type scenes to be had, some sites do at least attempt a build up and at the price there is still a good return on investment to be had. The Squirrel has descried the biggest downside which is the amount of hours you have to spend trawling for the good scenes so nowadays it is time issue versus a money issue. He has said it better in his new thread on the story so far. But to fill the gap you can also elect to drop some bucks and treat yourself to an alphafrance dvd. So there is the best of both worlds really. And when you buy the alpha france film it will remind you just how expensive it used to be. Thomas Edited on Jan 14, 2013, 01:16pm | |
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| 01-14-13 04:39pm - 4359 days | #25 | |
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Reveen (0)
Active User Posts: 96 Registered: Apr 06, '09 |
Are you referring to ATK there, I recall seeing something on another thread discussing the shortcomings of it. Its a site that I've seen get high scored reviews and praise and I've checked it out numerous times and have yet to subscribe to it. Given its description, its a site I should like but when I look at it, I'm just not particularly enticed. In the sample pics a lot of the models seem to be drenched in harsh light which is not very forgiving to amateur models and also a lot of the posing seems stereotypically porny for want of a better word, like they're shooting what they think the typical porn fan wants to see. Just as a general comment for the atk-type sites I wish they'd tell the models that they don't need to eyeball the camera in EVERY shot, it is permissable to look away. I also wish the models would either do a proper striptease or else ignore the camera and do a voyeur type set, just don't do a half-assed strip with trout-pout stares at the camera throughout the set. This has kind of gotten off topic but quality is also a part of getting value for money! | |
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| 02-26-13 04:26pm - 4316 days | #26 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Unfortunately, subtlety & eroticism has been lost of late. I am sure it will come around again. It can't be soon enough for me! Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 02-26-13 05:33pm - 4316 days | #27 | |
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Dracula (0)
Active User  Posts: 183 Registered: Jan 27, '13 Location: Romania |
Anal has taken the industry by storm. Can't wait for the pendulum to return from the dark side. A true neck-lover. | |
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| 02-26-13 06:20pm - 4316 days | #28 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
^I wish I could tell you that you can rejoice because anal is on the decline but the reality is that so is every other type of porn so it's not line anything else will take it's place. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 02-28-13 07:53am - 4315 days | #29 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
We are the human race. Man once traveled out from the jungle to the desert and then to the sea. Man then made way across the seas. Man tamed the oceans and animals to transport them. Man made tools that would allow him to work better and faster. Man then traveled beyond the planet and into the stars. The final Frontier as it were. Then a new land of the internet was discovered ( by Al Gore  ) and explorers began quests.There was a time the light bulb, cars, all were new and many a question raised. The internet for now is open frontier. However many countries including the USA are and even the current administration is tightening access and the freedom on here. I am not sure where or when it will end as we know it, but once a person could drive a car, then came insurance and licenses and stop signs and speed limits and then cops to patrol the road. Nothing good goes unpunished I suppose. The internet allowed adult material to be explored in away it had not been for over 25 years. Since magazine in mass published scantly dressed bodies. One must wonder where we are headed, it could be a fun ride, or go right off a cliff. Perhaps it will end in having requiring a license to download porn. After all every freedom we have ever had in some way now requires permission where once we were free. Since 2007 | |
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