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| 01-11-14 10:52am - 3960 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended  Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
What's the right amount of "free"? With myporn.com, our goal is to bring consumer and in producers closer than ever before. We want the money flowing directly to the producers, as stated in our mission statement. The lack of innovation and creativity in porn is a direct result of the lack of monetization within the business itself. The circle of life has taken a harmful detour. Here's the issue, which I'm sure most have figure out: The cause... Tubes give all the sub-standard content away for free, the people are thrilled they live in a world where virtually endless tits and vagina cost nothing, and once in a while click an ad to keep the tubes making a profit. The effect... the content from high quality (innovative) producers who refuse to play that game, are never front and center... therefore, are dependent mostly on boutique review sites like us to cater to the enthusiasts like yourself. So here's the challenge: Design a system where we're not giving away so much that producers shy from participating, and consumers never see a reason to join. On the other hand, if we don't offer enough to compete with the tubes, then nothing new flourishes and the current formula continues to reign supreme. My question to all of you, what's the right amount of free? Clean sites like beeg.com offer 8-10 min clips on average. This seems to be acceptable by a small amount of a decent quality sites, however I've seen a lot of discussion where it's just not enough for most. My initial common sense says 50% of the actual video might be acceptable by top end of the industry (which won't be easy to convince) and enough enjoyment for consumers without offering the whole farm. HD quality streaming, videobox type hover scrolling. To empower the industry, we can allow them to control how long the videos stay active (say 3-12 months). Longer they stay active and the more they offer, the more attention their brand will get. On the other hand, giving away too much may also be less profitable. So imagine a free movie site where either the first half or the second half (would alternate for each movie) of each full scene was on display from quality producers we already review often and have relationships with. Assuming our interface and features outpace the status quo, is that enough to create a new market of consumers, and interest the hardcore types like yourself? Would love to hear your thoughts! p.s. to the gallery lovers, is 10 free full size images from each gallery enough? The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder Edited on Jan 11, 2014, 11:07am | |
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| 01-11-14 12:30pm - 3960 days | #2 | |
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graymane (0)
Suspended  Posts: 1,411 Registered: Feb 20, '10 Location: Virginia |
Akin to nibbling on tasty appetizers while our olfactory is being graciously teased by the delectable aroma from the kitchen signaling the awaiting main course. | |
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| 01-11-14 12:32pm - 3960 days | #3 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Looks just about right, Rick. Half a movie would be enough to give us a good idea as to quality. I would suggest that the half always start from the beginning because I like to see the leading up to the action and how much of that is in the movie. If they jump right into the action I usually don't bother with the video. Same as to the galleries. To me 10 free full size images would be enough but please don't let the advertised site start in the middle or toward the end. To me it is important to see how much and what the model is wearing at the very beginning of a set. Personal preference only! | |
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| 01-11-14 02:09pm - 3960 days | #4 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I am trying to look at consumers point of view so in turn this would build a market. In a site goal proposed like this it would appear you would have three key consumer groups. 1. The something for nothing crowd, where unless its free they will seeya later. 2. People whom are looking for the best, ( I would say 99% of PU members are Connoisseurs, whom will see price as well but above all else volume for most is not as good as price and quality. I think many of us believe that is a perfection when found. 3. And finally the hoarders, these are people who will download everything and anything and keep tubes in business. They have no real limits as long as they can get their rocks off its good enough. You know Rick many years ago I opened a business in an established industry. ( not porn) . We became well known and even helped write state legislation. We did this by not trying to please everyone and to not use old markets but create one never used. The industry I was in has been around over 100 years. Yet we broke the mold and did things no one had ever done. I have since left that industry sold the business and still see to this day how our practices are now used. Innovation is what made us do well, its what created MS, and Apple and the internet itself. I think great success in the model you are thinking about, I for one would not give you a dime if I was a producer and saw you just wanted to do what everyone else does as many people run their adult businesses like we had run ours. We liked providing the best and so do many in the adult industry. You show them with class how you can promote their growth and they will love you for it. I think TBP & PU are prime examples of not foreveryone sites, but if you want the best then TBP & PU were always that. Clean, respectful and top notch. Its going to be good. Since 2007 | |
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| 01-11-14 02:44pm - 3960 days | #5 | |
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FibiLove Co (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 7 Registered: Jul 01, '11 Location: Jamaica |
The idea would work well if you are in the business of selling good suspense thrillers. Where you would get someone really interested and then leave them hanging wherein they would definitely want to see the end. You are trying to sell something to someone who is not interested in paying no matter what. The people who pay for porn don't need to see half a movie to know if the quality is good, I think snippets from different sections would work just fine. There is no need to give away more content to try to lure people who like free content. They just don't believe they should pay and that won't change. | |
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| 01-11-14 02:56pm - 3960 days | #6 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
Re. your last paragraph. Any sample could be streaming only and wouldn't encourage anyone but the most determined freeloaders! | |
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| 01-11-14 06:03pm - 3960 days | #7 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Design a system where those contributing get access to free streaming and free pics but only a selection, with maybe one high quality download a month just so people can see what high quality means and to stimulate demand. Top contributors should receive a limited amount of free stuff, maybe a tokens system. The more the contributions the more free porn, but only a very limited amount of high quality pics and videos, just enough to encourage memberships. For example members can access a page with 100 low quality pics with ability to click on and download maybe 12 or so high quality from a set. Perhaps give tokens for 50 pics a month from any selection. Probably none of this may be feasible, but it's just my idea. If I were a website owner (frankly I can do other things with 100k, but if I were) I would allow streaming but not high quality downloads. I would only allow that for long term customers. Since there's a lot of free low quality porn around, having a place that's free but relatively safe should give you an edge. Also make sure you go into partnership with reputable companies, none of those crooked assholes who have pre checked cross sales and other dodgy practices. Partnerships with tricksters will only do you harm in the long term. Alternatively you could offer very high quality beginnings to videos and sets, with lower quality for the rest. Keep most of it the same quality as the tube sites. Edited on Jan 11, 2014, 06:08pm | |
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| 01-11-14 06:08pm - 3960 days | #8 | |
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biker (0)
Active User  Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
I would ask each site what they are willing to offer. As others have pointed out, some want to see different aspects of their material, so a discussion as to what may be the best scene or portions of would work from them is where to begin. Who do they want to attract? I prefer photos and would like to see a couple from the beginning of a set, a couple from the middle, and then a couple near the end. But I may not be the more common customer. Others may prefer to see the hardcore with out any lead in. It may take some experimentation to see what attracts people to their style of porn. Warning Will Robinson | |
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| 01-11-14 06:15pm - 3960 days | #9 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
If you sign up to a site through TBP/PU give some sort of tokens for that. | |
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| 01-11-14 08:45pm - 3959 days | #10 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Quite a variety of response... your on to something Cybertoad. There's no pleasing everyone, but it's good to tale all perspectives into consideration. Squirrel, you mentioned a token system where the more u contribute, the more access u get. We're on the same page to some extent. There will be experience levels, and rewards/priveleges for higher levels. I think we're on the right path, but if you guys think of anything, I'll be listening.  The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to PornPorn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 01-12-14 06:05am - 3959 days | #11 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Exclusive material for PU/TBP - not better but a few alternatives for those who join sites through PU/TBP. Extra pics, an extra exclusive 5 minute clip. Nothing extreme just something to encourage using and joining through your site. | |
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| 01-12-14 09:24am - 3959 days | #12 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
There have been some interesting answers here. My two cents, which must be weighed low since I really have no idea what I'm talking about, is that TBP/PU and the upcoming sites actually have a lot to offer the industry. I know that most of the active members, and I suspect a lot of the people who are members but don't post, are active porn buyers. That allows you, Rick, to deliver something that not many other sites can: a group of people who are known to spend money on porn. It's been said above, and I agree with it, that what the average tube-site viewer wants is likely different from what the average PU member wants. Sure, I'd like a bit of free stuff, but my reason for wanting it is because I'm scouting for a site to join and the free scene snippet will be a way for me to see if the content and format is something I like. To that end, I think a minute or two of free preview would be sufficient. But one caveat: make it clear to porn sites that what you have are active buyers so if they offer HD on their site then make that available in the free scene. Resolution and video quality is something that I judge in a preview and if all I get is low-res crap then I'm likely to avoid the site for fear that's all they have. Even if the site says that they have HD I prefer to see it since not all HD is created equal. As FibiLove Co said in the post above, don't put too much thought into how you can satisfy people who only want free porn and won't pay no matter what. You've got an asset in the membership here who will pay, and in my case (and many others here too, I'm sure) who actually want to pay. What you're asking from the porn sites is simply some advertising and a free sample. They provide the free sample, you provide the paying customers. We're all happy! | |
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| 01-12-14 10:32am - 3959 days | #13 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Free memberships is more or less what I had in mind.  The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to PornPorn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 01-12-14 10:55am - 3959 days | #14 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Thanks for the feedback rearadmiral. Some may feel it's a waste of bandwidth and resources to encourage the "never will pay" crowd. I see it as a challenge and an opportunity. Most of my friends and people I reach out to on a daily basis are those types. There is a market there, and maybe it's only 1% that we can convert into paying customers. Nobody thought people would pay for music after Napster either, and iTunes created a new market for people to pay for songs individually. Membership sites are like music albums, but worse. There's a path of resistance there and a general dis-trust. Not that companies can't be trusted, but our industry historically wouldn't win any miss congeniality awards. There's a few ways to "virtually" monetize the casual crowd without ever asking needing a dime: 1. Their simple presence is valuable. The social network and interaction will be a valuable asset to everyone. Whether they're liking/disliking movies, sharing their favorite free clips, or simply participating in the forums... this is all valuable feedback. 2. The potential of conversion. Down the road we do want to offer a "scene store" (think iTunes). Many have talked about this in the past, and I talked to so many people who would choose this payment model over dealing with monthly memberships from various companies. Organization and convenience alone create new buyers. We want to build something special and unique. It's not only offering new features and content, but re-establishing trust and building a new culture. We started with TBP/PU and it's been very successful. Everything we've learned now, we can apply to scale higher/wider. With proper innovation and preparation, I think we can set new standards and build to heights never achieved. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 01-12-14 12:36pm - 3959 days | #15 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I shouldn't comment about video, as I don't view them much. As regards sample galleries. A cross section of 10 horizontal format images per gallery would be fine. It would be most representative of the content if the samples span the entire 'story' of the photoset. The users would then know what format to expect from a subscription to the site. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-12-14 12:52pm - 3959 days | #16 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
More than likely we'll have a simple script that automatically takes 10 photos from equal parts of the entire gallery. So if there's 90 photos in a gallery, it'll be photo # 1, 10, 20.. 90. Always have the first and last from each, and everything in between.  The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to PornPorn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 01-12-14 01:27pm - 3959 days | #17 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User  Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
As you said Rick, the problem with tube sites is too much quantity and not enough quality. Many casual surfers for porn never get beyond the tubes to realize that there is much better stuff out there. I think you are right in that the solution is higher quality content in a limited quantity. I think a good analogy is like a tasting at a wine retailer. They bring out the high end stuff, but of course they don't let the customer drink their fill for the night. In keeping with this analogy, tube sites are like college keggers. You can drink your fill for next to nothing, but it's all crappy lite beer. We need to help porn consumers grow up and refine their tastes. I am definitely excited by what myporn.com will have to offer. Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 01-12-14 01:38pm - 3959 days | #18 | |
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jberryl69 (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,000 Registered: Nov 27, '10 Location: neverland |
^ lol - good luck trying to raise a lite beer drinker taste bud into high end oenophile. If it ain't grits, it must be a Yankee. If you're going to lay her head over the pool table and fuck her throat, get your fucking hand off her throat! | |
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| 01-12-14 01:57pm - 3959 days | #19 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
This is the best analogy I've heard so far!! I may use that one myself. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to PornPorn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 01-12-14 02:11pm - 3959 days | #20 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
x Edited on Apr 19, 2023, 01:36pm | |
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| 01-12-14 03:01pm - 3959 days | #21 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Appreciate the feedback WG! I think everything will click better as we release more pages. The social is a major part of myporn.com, even though it's not obvious from the preview homepages. We'll dive deeper into that soon. Your exactly right when it comes to the "BUY NOW" effect. So for the active free video, if you want to stream the other half (or download the entire file), our plan is to offer it for $2. Videos that have expired can also be purchased at anytime, but not played. Pay-sites will have control over how many videos are "active" at once... could be only 6 at a time, or as much as 100. Point is our entire collection is always "fresh" with the best of the best front and center. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 01-12-14 03:18pm - 3959 days | #22 | |
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biker (0)
Active User Posts: 632 Registered: May 03, '08 Location: milwaukee, wi |
Rick, not the last picture. I don't want to know how the story ends. Warning Will Robinson | |
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| 01-12-14 10:34pm - 3958 days | #23 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Gotta say I disagree with that. I can't count the number of sites that looked interesting in a small preview, but then consistently failed to deliver the pay off.  If I am going to take a subscription, I need to know the pay off is there.  Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 01-13-14 06:11pm - 3958 days | #24 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
I think the overall theme needs to be quality over quantity. I'd rather see a short high definition, great production quality video than get a whole SD run of the mill porno. The same goes for the photos. So if you are setting up a script that automatically aggregates the free content, please make sure it only pulls high resolution content. In regards to movie lengths: Hollywood gets people to go to theaters using movie trailers that last only 2 or 3 minutes. I think Teen Fidelity shows the ideal movie posts, none of the trailers on their front page exceed 3 minutes, all are available in HD and all give an overview of the entire scene, rather than an excerpt from a scene. Maybe the content providers used for MyPorn's movie and photo galleries can be by invite only. As editors, you can an evaluate a site and then provide them with an account if you feel their content is worthy of being included in the MyPorn collection. Their account would be on 1 month probationary period, and every upload would have to be approved by the MyPorn editors to make sure that the videos and photos meet the quality standards during that month. I'm sure regular users would be willing to act as content watchdogs after the probationary period, reporting to you guys if site's uploads suddenly took a turn for the worse. The quality standards could include basic stats like minimum resolutions, but also include subjective requirements like how accurately the preview portrayed the full length scene. This system would make appearing in the MyPorn collection a prestigious placement and also encourage content producers to be more involved with the site. I'd love to see small, innovative, niche content producers getting attention that way. Their presence might also encourage some of the larger producers to step up their game and get out of the rut of producing the same material over and over. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 01-13-14 06:42pm - 3958 days | #25 | |
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LPee23 (0)
Active User Posts: 399 Registered: Jul 14, '13 Location: USA |
Very well said. Quality over quantity is key. There are many out there who do surf porn looking for high quantity free material, but that is actually beside the point. Users in that crowd will still visit the highest quality free sites they know of first. When they are done there, they will always go on to whatever other free sites await, but wouldn't it be great if myporn.com were the first place they looked for that clip or photoset or two of amazing new material? Better to be pissed on, than to be pissed off. | |
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| 01-14-14 08:25am - 3957 days | #26 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I try and look at other porn sites, the most successful found what they do and did it well. Its like going to a restaurant we all have that one place we remember or go to where a certain meal is to die for. Rick there was a place perhaps you have heard of them called Cattlemens ? Back in the 80's these paces were all over California, what they served was Steak of all kinds and good ole country beans. ( And salads if anyone wanted lol). Point is people lined out the door and waited 1-2 hours I kid you not for a table. I would reserve a table and drive 45 minutes. Why ? Because they did not try and be good at everything, they chose what they did well and mastered it. Cattlemens went down hill in the late 90's. What would be the guess ? When they started selling everything else. They were no longer the Best Steak house, there were just a restaurant that also served steak. They started looking at bottom line instead of selling best cuts and best wines. Businesses have a choice of what path they choose to fail, they success rate tends to become complicated and a higher failure rate when they try and doing everything for everyone . ( I say fail because no business stays open for ever, "The goal should never ever be to be successful in business, it should be to avoid failing in your choice of business" Donald Trump said that ! Just my take of why I mentioned what I did. A good example is Videobox, what a neat sites that has millions of movies top technology and largest site on the internet probably. They also serve average quality porn. Since 2007 Edited on Jan 14, 2014, 08:29am | |
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| 01-14-14 10:12am - 3957 days | #27 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Our "initial" video requirements will look something like this: 1. must be 100% exclusive video 2. must be at least 720p, mp4 format. 3. must be at least X minutes long. 4. scene can't be over 6 months old (from posted date). 5. file must be original, as downloaded from members area 6. video will be handpicked by us or approved As far as what sites get to participate... that's still somewhat up for discussion. To start we'll probably limit to top sites (by review score), then later scale it for more. We'll have to tools so users can only follow certain niches (tags), ignore sites by indvidual site or entire company, etc. Of course there will be filtering tools on top of that so if you only wanted to ever few movies with a X% likeabilty, you can. The community will drive what they consider to be subjective "quality", we'll make sure they meet the initial standards. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 01-14-14 12:44pm - 3957 days | #28 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
Looks Cool ! Since 2007 | |
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| 01-14-14 07:36pm - 3957 days | #29 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I'm a little late to this thread, but I think the majority of porn viewers are like beer consumers. They're not necessarily looking for the hardest, fanciest ("quality"), most exotic fare, just something to get their rocks off/buzz on. And while beer has more than enough stuck up snobs, the numbers don't lie (nor apparently do the snobs, read the comments in that article or just about anything here in our forum  ): the cheaper brews sell. And tons of free or cheap 'tube and download sites still operate, offering easy access to the quick 'n' dirty.So while we, the loyally paying porn snobs, demand the quality, I think the majority of deviants are still just looking for an easy boner/buzz. With that said, I'd prefer full/actual quality of what a site is offering, but it doesn't necessarily have to be a full length video or photo set, but preferably something that gives us an accurate taste. Basically, much of what Rick has already posted above. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 01-15-14 01:05am - 3956 days | #30 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User  Posts: 583 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
I have to agree with Toadsith here I much prefer a preview of an entire seen to see if I like it than a section, then you can see from the beginning if you like the set up and then like the action and ending, that what entices me then to buy much more than some random 4 or 5 mins. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 07-25-14 11:27am - 3765 days | #31 | |
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Twotails (0)
Active User Posts: 6 Registered: Jul 24, '14 |
Just signed in myporn.com after reading great part of this thread. Looking forward to seeing what's coming up...  I too believe it is possible to transform only-watchers to paying members. Why? They don't know what they miss! As I understand, You want to show them, right? I used as well to just click around for hours and days and search some free content. Until one day (not even a year ago) I gave it a try and subscribed to YoungLegalPorn. It hit like a supernova!! Never thought that something like this really exists and they really hold what they promise, in this quality (you get used to the 16 low-quality pics that have to be downloaded one by one and then named), both in terms of content qual/quan (all the expected scenes are there and technically.Download whole galleries of 100 pics with 10MP resolution, and FHD Movies very easily. And - surprise! - 18onlygirls even came along (I've spent quite a lot of time in the end to decide - that was also a top-favorite). Since then I just watch the free galleries to decide on the next site I subscribe to. In my opinion, if you've got the money left, it's a pure waste of time and opportunities to bother with free stuff  Well, now that I even discovered PU, I find many more possibilities to preview sites, without these sucking pop-ups and hit-the-thumb-3-times to see what it promises. Wish you much success with the project | |
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| 07-26-14 08:04am - 3764 days | #32 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
This month I am giving something away to two sets of members. I have free members and paid members. Free members could win a membership and paid could win a cool gift. I am encouraging those to signup for paid cause the gift alone more then covers it and you would be a paid member a year. Also in the next month 1 paid member get a shot at a gift worth over #50.00 free shipping. I 60 days we will no longer have free memberships. Its all a calculated system. Give the what they want and they will want more maybe even at a small fee then. The newer you are the more you must earn the trust of new members. Since 2007 | |
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| 07-26-14 08:06pm - 3764 days | #33 | |
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Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Thanks for your feedback twotails! I also agree that most casual users have yet to discover the upper end of the porn world. So many paths of resistance as well. We'll make it easier than buying a song on iTunes. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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| 07-27-14 04:51am - 3763 days | #34 | |
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jook (0)
Active User  Posts: 325 Registered: Dec 22, '13 Location: jersey city |
This is a great topic and I've read some great ideas that I would love to see implemented. I hesitate to comment since I'm still fairly new to internet porn... this site sort of woke me up after I sang the praises of a streaming site. I haven't been back to that site since I posted about it. I'll just say a few things sort of relevant to this discussion. A detailed description of the content and the particulars of the site would be very helpful along with links to reviews of the site. [It's a rare day that I join a site that's not reviewed here.] Number 2, whatever form the paying sites may take, stop recurring payments. Many non-porn sites do this too, so it can't all be blamed on the porn sites. I think it's no different than highway robbery. Give the customer a choice as to whether he wants automatic billing. Last, offer better customer service, like a response within 24 hours. As for the non-paying sites, I have a hard time understanding why anyone would choose these sites unless they can't afford a paying site, a valid reason. Such sites do nothing for me. And finally, thanks to Rick and staff as well as the membership for opening a world to me that I didn't know existed | |
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| 07-27-14 07:21am - 3763 days | #35 | |
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Cybertoad (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,158 Registered: Jan 01, '08 Location: Wash |
I am unsure why many sites do not have life help, or tutorials in using the sites. What "EVERY" porn site I have ever visited forgets ( except mill sites) is I am new and do not know how your site works. I find some sites I join and when I am about to leave I find out something else was there, or a way to search. I recently joined one site and could not for the life of me see where to add comments, seems no one else could as there was zero basically comments. A simple how to use or instruction video would be great. On this new site MP. given the new advanced look may fair well having amazing help sections. Since 2007 | |
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