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09-23-09  05:18am - 5569 days Original Post - #1
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Ya know what really grinds my gears?

What's up with this "Do you want to navigate away from this page?" pop-up that some of the shittier sites have been using lately? You close the page or click on a link and then this alert comes and asks you if you want to leave! You click cancel instinctively because you don't read normally these things, but cancel is the wrong answer. Click okay to leave, cancel to stay just like it says. Half the time they you'll get a pop-up for adult friend finder or some other ad. Probably installed a trojan too, who knows. Don' ask me if I want to leave. Of course I want to leave. I clicked the "X" didn't I?!

09-23-09  08:24am - 5569 days #2
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When I'm checking out a site, and that happens, I shut it down and never return.

09-23-09  08:39am - 5569 days #3
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I think I've maybe got a trojan on my PC. The reason is that I sometimes get messages from Yahoo (my main email account) that state that I've exceeded the hourly maximum number of emails that I can send (something like 200 per hour). I don't send 200 emails in a year, so someone is using my email address to send spam. I don't know if they are actually using my PC to send the spam, or if it is just using my email address to send the spam, but either way, the originating email address for the spam (I don't see the spam being sent, just the notice from Yahoo that I have exceeded my maximum number of emails allowed) is my email address.

I run a firewall and antivirus program, but they have not reported any trojan or malware on my PC.

So should I be doing anything about this? I'm not going to take my PC into a computer shop (like Best Buy or whoever), because I've got porn on my PC, and who knows if they would report me to the police, for that porn? The porn is not illegal, as far as I know, but why take a chance you will be reported to the police for having porn on your PC? That's one problem I don't need to deal with.

09-23-09  09:08am - 5569 days #4
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lk2,
if I were you I'd change my email pass immediately.
Then I'd change it again from a different computer, like at work or something. The reason I say that is that there is still a small chance you have a keylogger installed.

09-23-09  09:23am - 5569 days #5
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I have seen quite a few shitty sites with that "Do you want to cancel this page" bullshit on them. Even more irritating is when it just navigates to a page that asks "Are you really sure?" and so on until you end up either punching your monitor or your head explodes, or both. I really wish computers and sites would stop asking me if I am sure, because I am sure that I am sure!

I really don't like Yahoo, whether it's checking mail or doing anything else. I still have an account there for subscribing to new sites, even when I trust the site. My big problem is that only about half of the spam mail actually makes it to the spam folder, the other half ends up in the inbox. I have a Google account for regular e-mail, but it's not spam free either.

And of course about half of my snail mail is still junk mail. :) "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove

09-23-09  09:25am - 5569 days #6
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james4096, thanks for the advice. It scares me to think I could have a keylogger installed, because that could really mess me up. I will definitely change my email pass, and maybe think about getting a new PC.

09-23-09  09:44am - 5569 days #7
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The thought of having a keylogger on your computer is terrible. I'd feel so violated. Seriously.

If you do have a keylogger you can just reinstall your OS. If you have your installation disks, or your rescue disks, or some computers these days have a rescue partition built in, you could use those.

I know what you mean about not wanting to take your computer to geek squad. I would never do that, I'd be to embarrassed by the sheer amount of porn on my computer. They would think I was a serial killer if they saw how much I had.

They probably just got in you email through some worm that spread through address books or something. probably no big deal.

09-23-09  10:48am - 5569 days #8
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My work around is not to store my porn on my main harddrive, but have it on a slave drive & backed up externally.

It has worked OK so far, but then I do have a trusted computer bloke too. ;0) Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award
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09-23-09  03:27pm - 5569 days #9
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Yes, I hate the crap out of that stuff, too. I've learned to choose "continue" to "navigate away" from the page and all that vague-ass-sounding malarky, but it's still annoying as hell. It's like, "You're here, and now we've GOT YOUR ASS!"

Let's always report this to TBP when it happens and post a comment about it on the site's page here at PU. Maybe that'll fix those fucktards.

I was just at the Mad Magazine site. Went to "How to Make Electricity," thinking it was a parody and then found out it was a longish add for home solar and wind power AND ... they pulled that same crap this thread's about. Sheesh. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. Edited on Sep 23, 2009, 04:08pm

09-23-09  05:16pm - 5569 days #10
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


I think I've maybe got a trojan on my PC. The reason is that I sometimes get messages from Yahoo (my main email account) that state that I've exceeded the hourly maximum number of emails that I can send (something like 200 per hour). I don't send 200 emails in a year, so someone is using my email address to send spam. I don't know if they are actually using my PC to send the spam, or if it is just using my email address to send the spam, but either way, the originating email address for the spam (I don't see the spam being sent, just the notice from Yahoo that I have exceeded my maximum number of emails allowed) is my email address.

I run a firewall and antivirus program, but they have not reported any trojan or malware on my PC.

So should I be doing anything about this? I'm not going to take my PC into a computer shop (like Best Buy or whoever), because I've got porn on my PC, and who knows if they would report me to the police, for that porn? The porn is not illegal, as far as I know, but why take a chance you will be reported to the police for having porn on your PC? That's one problem I don't need to deal with.


The first thing you could do is go to your yahoo account and click the "sent mail" option. You can also write the yahoo help. Also, scan your pc with your anti virus.

09-23-09  08:16pm - 5569 days #11
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james4096 and jd1961, thanks for the help. I probably don't have a trojan on my PC (or a keylogger). I chatted email support at Yahoo, and they supplied an article on spam that tells you how to find the IP address in the header of the email. I was supplied four partial sample emails in the notices I received about my spam email, and none of the IP addresses used were mine.

So the spam that is being sent, with my email address, is not coming from my PC, but from some other PC/server/whatever.

In other words, my email address is being forged, but my PC is not being used to send the spam email. That's a relief.

(I also checked the "sent mail" for my Yahoo email, and no spam showed up as being sent by me.)

Yahoo support chat wrote to me:
"It appears the true sender of the email has forged the email headers to contain a yahoo.com address that is similar to or the same as your own address at your email provider. This is a tactic commonly used by spammers to confuse the recipient as to the true origins of the email."


If someone wants to forge my email address on spam, that's part of the Internet problem. I could get a different email address, but I'll have to think that over.

Thanks again for the help. I feel much better knowing I probably do not have a keylogger installed. But I will run my anti-virus program to check my hard drives completely, which will take hours and hours. Better safe than sorry.

09-23-09  09:05pm - 5569 days #12
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I have had a few sites pull this recently as well. Every now and then they will offer a better deal when you go to leave the sign up page. Still, it is annoying and makes me feel a little unsettled. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~

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09-24-09  09:16am - 5568 days #13
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Originally Posted by lk2fireone:


james4096 and jd1961, thanks for the help. I probably don't have a trojan on my PC (or a keylogger). I chatted email support at Yahoo, and they supplied an article on spam that tells you how to find the IP address in the header of the email. I was supplied four partial sample emails in the notices I received about my spam email, and none of the IP addresses used were mine.

So the spam that is being sent, with my email address, is not coming from my PC, but from some other PC/server/whatever.

In other words, my email address is being forged, but my PC is not being used to send the spam email. That's a relief.

(I also checked the "sent mail" for my Yahoo email, and no spam showed up as being sent by me.)

Yahoo support chat wrote to me:
"It appears the true sender of the email has forged the email headers to contain a yahoo.com address that is similar to or the same as your own address at your email provider. This is a tactic commonly used by spammers to confuse the recipient as to the true origins of the email."


If someone wants to forge my email address on spam, that's part of the Internet problem. I could get a different email address, but I'll have to think that over.

Thanks again for the help. I feel much better knowing I probably do not have a keylogger installed. But I will run my anti-virus program to check my hard drives completely, which will take hours and hours. Better safe than sorry.


Sorry, I never thought you might be the victim of "spoofing". Might want to delete the account and make a new address.

09-24-09  02:47pm - 5568 days #14
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I agree, get a new email.
Nevermind passwords, email addresses themselves need to be kept secret these days. Once somebody unscrupulous has your email address you get spammed and spoofed.
I find that Yahoo mail, isn't as good as others in preventing spam. I used to get spam emails from people sent 5 years into the future in my yahoo inbox. Really pissed me off.

09-24-09  03:11pm - 5568 days #15
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As an aside about email addresses ...

Since you're talking about disposable email addresses, I thought it might be a good idea to remind users that they'll want to check their profile from time-to-time to ensure that they're using a current/working email address for their PornUsers.com account.

To date we've had a number of users lose access to their accounts because they used disposable addresses and didn't update their PU accounts.

Just a friendly reminder. :) Former PornUsers Senior Administrator
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09-24-09  07:54pm - 5568 days #16
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I think the reason that is a little issue is that people do not trust PU right away when joining. They assume that you guys present as much of a risk of spam mail as any other porn site.

I know you guys are not into spamming and we can set what emails we get from this site, but new members will not know this so they assume it is best not to use their critical account. So I suspect this issue will not go away any time soon. Every site out there claims it protects our privacy, and we all know how that goes. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~

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09-25-09  08:01am - 5567 days #17
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I just read a cool way for PU members to make some extra cash. How many of us have a Mac? I don't, I have a PC because it was cheaper. But for those of us who do have Macs, here's a bright thought:

Make $0.43 (43 cents, U.S.) for every Mac you infect. That's right, just by loading some malware onto your friends' machines (and anyone else you can dump on), you can earn 43 cents per infected machine, paid by your friendly cyber criminal organization. No joke.

No wonder these spammers are using my email address for spoofing: there's big money from cyber crime, if you know what you're doing.

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September 25th, 2009
Malware affiliate bounty: Infect a Mac, earn 43 cents

Posted by Ryan Naraine @ 6:03 am


GENEVA &#65533; In a sign that cyber-criminals are investing more time and resources into attacks against Apple&#65533;s Mac users, a new malware affiliate program has been discovered offering 43c for every infected Mac machine.

During an eye-opening presentation at the VB Conference 2009 conference here, Sophos Labs researcher Dmitry Samosseikko provided a glimpse into the &#65533;Partnerka,&#65533; a Russian network of spam and malware affiliates that have turned their attention to the Mac platform &#65533; using social engineering tricks to load fake codecs and scareware programs.

Samosseiko discussed the &#65533;codec-partnerka,&#65533; which is dedicated solely to the sale and promotion of fake Mac software.

[ SEE: Mac Attack: Porn video lures dropping DNS-changer Trojan ]

He pointed to a site called Mac-codec.com (now offline) which was offering $0.43 for each malicious install, a price tag that suggests the Mac platform is becoming more and more lucrative to online crime gangs.

The site was also offering various promotional materials in the form of MacOS video players, a sign that the investment is just more than tricking users into paying for fake security software.

In the past, we have seen the use of porn video lures to trick Mac users into downloadiing and installing DNS changer Trojans.

The DNS changer Trojans typically change the Mac&#65533;s DNS server (the server that is used to look up the correspondences between domain names and IP addresses for web sites and other Internet services). When this new, malicious, DNS server is active, it hijacks some web requests, leading users to phishing web sites (for sites such as Ebay, PayPal and some banks), or simply to web pages displaying ads for other pornographic web sites.
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09-26-09  09:51am - 5566 days #18
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It's definitely a popular marketing tool - and not only among crap sites, either. Aaliyah Love (ALS Scan Molly) has a site that is part of quite a nice network, including Ashley Fire's site, Puma Swede's site, Hannah Hilton's site, etc - they used to have this on their site. I just checked and didn't experience it now, whether because they have done away with it or my pop-up blocker is interfering with it, I don't know.

It doesn't bug me all that much, to tell the truth, though if they're going to do this "catch my attention" thing, I would prefer if they offered an extra special deal rather than the price I had just walked away from. I've seen that - you navigate away from a Join page and get a better offer. I like that.

The stuff that I really dislike is the Pre-Checked Memberships or the memberships that you are assigned when you join a site whether you pre-checked something or not - Porn Pros burned me with that and it will be quite a while - maybe forever - before I consider joining that site again - plus they're fucking assholes. They played really vicious head-games with Tanner Mayes, one of my favorites of the new porn babes, then exploited the video of her blowing up at them - douche bags!

09-28-09  11:01am - 5564 days #19
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There are ethics in porn just like everything else. Us porn users expect them to be followed. PinkPanther believe what they did to him and Tanner Mayes was wrong and likely the rest of us would agree, so that makes it wrong. We can punish these people for their wrong doings by not buying there content. When a site begins getting a bad reputation I tend to listen to my fellow users. Thus those people lose not only your business in the future but mine and others as well. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~

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09-28-09  11:25am - 5564 days #20
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Originally Posted by badandy400:


I have had a few sites pull this recently as well. Every now and then they will offer a better deal when you go to leave the sign up page. Still, it is annoying and makes me feel a little unsettled.


I entirely agree with you on this, Andy.

By not offering their best deal at sign up, in effect they are ripping off the user who just signs up in the normal manner.
I am not complaining that deals are offered, but they should be done on the signup page not as a desperate attempt to get some of your money when you have decided they are too rich on the deal.

They really should be more upfront on the deals they are prepared to offer.

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09-28-09  07:16pm - 5564 days #21
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I think the answer is to check out the site, including the price on the signup page. Next, leave it and see if a better offer pops up. Beat them at their own game, instead of just signing up.

09-28-09  07:16pm - 5564 days #22
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I think the answer is to check out the site, including the price on the signup page. Next, leave it and see if a better offer pops up. Beat them at their own game, instead of just signing up.

10-01-09  09:09am - 5561 days #23
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I hate them too, you automatically click cancel, but you have to click okay to get rid of them??? It leaves you feeling a bit unsure of what you have actually accepted.

The lezley zen site pop up pretended that she was typing a message. How many people do they expect to fool with that.

10-01-09  10:07am - 5561 days #24
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Originally Posted by mbaya:


I think the answer is to check out the site, including the price on the signup page. Next, leave it and see if a better offer pops up. Beat them at their own game, instead of just signing up.


Yes, I suppose you are right there.

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