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| 04-19-09 09:43am - 5726 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Philon (0)
Active User Posts: 12 Registered: Apr 03, '09 Location: Macedonia, Ohio |
Recommendations for evidence eliminator/scrubber/etc. Apologies for bringing up a question that most likely has been raised before, but I can't find it. My preference would be for a free download that actually works. I've been using a free downlaod that does not eliminate auto complete information (even though it says is does) and therefore is worthless. Thank you. | |
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| 04-19-09 05:14pm - 5726 days | #2 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Recommendations for evidence eliminator/scrubber/etc.: I never used one. My understanding is that to be completely safe, if there is sensitive material on your PC (financial data/porn/whatever), use a hammer or incinerator on the hard drive. That's what the US Department of Defense is supposed to do. Otherwise, no matter how many times you delete the sensitive material, real experts are supposed to be able to retrieve it. There are supposed to be programs that should safely delete data from a hard drive, but like I said, the US Department of Defense destroys its hard drives instead of using a computer program to wipe the data. | |
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| 04-19-09 07:52pm - 5726 days | #3 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User  Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
I guess it might be prudent to ask if you are looking for total security or are you looking for something to help keep your old lady from finding things. Knowing your intended use will help in someone making a suggestion. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 04-19-09 09:42pm - 5725 days | #4 | |
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Philon (0)
Active User Posts: 12 Registered: Apr 03, '09 Location: Macedonia, Ohio |
Hi badandy, No old lady, and I'm not looking for the kind of total security suggested by lk2fireone. Also not trying to hide anything illegal. Ocassionally I do have guests that use the computer, and I'd just as soon they not see porn, or evidence of porn. That's all. | |
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| 04-20-09 10:57am - 5725 days | #5 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
I use the free and basic "IE Privacy Keeper" program. I have it set up so that everytime I close out my web pages it nukes my temp files, browsing history, typed urls, mru menu, cookies and the download folders file. For me, it does seem to eliminate the autocomplete history but then again I mostly use IE Exploder for surfing. It's certainly not bullet proof but should the average user get on my machine they're going to have to dig to find traces of my porn surfing history. | |
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| 04-20-09 02:01pm - 5725 days | #6 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
A friend of mine recently sent me a link for something called TrackMeNot, though I am sure someone else has mentioned it here in the forum before. My friend is not really into porn -- or least nowhere near as much as I am -- but he understands I am generally paranoid regardless of what I am doing on the web. Anyways, this program is an extension for the Firefox browser that, at least as I understand it, creates random fake search queries to popular search engines so your real searches are buried in a pile of fake data. This is really more about keeping third parties from getting more info about you, not really about eliminating data that is already on your computer. I know Google's Chrome browser has an "Incognito Mode" that lets you browse without keeping track of history and cookies, though I am sure Google keeps a bunch of information if you are using their browser. They say it is "for times when you want to browse in stealth mode, for example, to plan surprises like gifts or birthdays" -- yeah, right, as if the biggest threat to privacy on the web is the risk of ruining a surprise party... "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 04-22-09 01:03am - 5723 days | #7 | |
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Balibalo (0)
Active User  Posts: 25 Registered: Sep 10, '08 Location: France, Paris |
Hi Philon, I think I've found what you need. There are 2 reputable free softwares working for Windows, Internet Explorer, Firefox and Opera. They delete history, temporary files, cache, cookies and many more. The first one is CleanAfterMe. It works for Windows 2000, XP and Vista. It can also delete the recent the recent opened files list of Windows Media Player. The second one is ATF-Cleaner. It does almost the same things but it is easier to use for non-advanced computer users. It works only for Windows 2000 and XP, not for Vista. You can click on the names of these freewares to see full descriptions and download if you want. I'm waiting for your feedback. Bye. | |
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| 06-04-09 03:50am - 5680 days | #8 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Sort of on-topic: There was a sex scandal last year, where a male Hong Kong actor-singer, Edison Chen, had photos of himself having sex with different female Hong Kong stars. The release of the photos was extremely embarrassing for Edison Chen and the females involved. ....................................................... http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.ap.o...hful-indiscretion-ap Thu Jun 04, 2009, 12:21 am EDT AP "Chen said he deleted pictures from his laptop computer of himself with eight female Hong Kong stars but that they were recovered by technicians at a repair shop. A Hong Kong computer tech was sentenced to more than eight months in jail last month for stealing the photos. Chen said he never showed the pictures to anyone else besides the women who were in them. He said the pictures were all taken with consent." ....................................................... The incident above involved famous movie stars in Hong Kong. But as I've said before, when you take your PC in to have it worked on at a repair shop, you have no idea what the technicians will look at while it's at the shop. | |
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| 06-04-09 05:11am - 5680 days | #9 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
Try Webroot's Window Washer - it shreds (scrubs, whatever) data beyond the DoD's requirements. My paranoid father has been using it for years. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 06-04-09 08:06am - 5680 days | #10 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
I've been using it for years, so I second Toadsith's recommendation of Window Washer. There are options to overwrite deleted data up to 35 times and it'll also "wash" open spaces on your drives that might contain data from previous deletions. There are also configurable plugins to delete data from dozens, if not hundreds, of common programs. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 06-04-09 01:29pm - 5680 days | #11 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I thought the DoD's, and come to think of it, all of the federal government's requirements, were to physically destroy hard drives. Bottom line: enter repair shops at your own risk! "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 06-04-09 01:53pm - 5680 days | #12 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
They liked that system, and then they realized it was expensive, lol In regards to repair shops, just leave the hard drive with the porn at home. Then there is nothing to find. Even if you don't have an external drive, removing an internal drive is cake. A few screws and two cables. Modern computers are like Legos with screws. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 06-05-09 07:47am - 5679 days | #13 | |
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littlejoe (0)
Active User Posts: 49 Registered: Jan 25, '07 Location: earth |
check out Steganos Security Suite | |
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| 06-08-09 12:16pm - 5676 days | #14 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
What information is being collected and saved about your online browsing? Basically, you have little way of actually knowing. The article below does not make clear exactly how Sears was able to gather detailed information on thousands of its customers. And the customers themselves were apparently unaware of the massive details that Sears was collecting about the customers' online behavior. "the Sears Holdings Management Company, in fact, put a price of exactly $10 on being able to attach some sort of code that would track very precise details about a person's "online browsing." This, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer, included details about online shopping, drug-prescription records, video rentals, library-borrowing histories, names and addresses of e-mail correspondents as well as bank statements." Sears apparently agreed to change their tracking practices in an undisclosed agreement with the Federal Trade Commission. But if Sears, a simple retail company, is able to gather this detailed information, you might wonder what information the federal government, its agencies, and other groups are learning and keeping about us. Even if you can effectively clean the hard drive of your PC of sensitive files, that information might already be in files the government is keeping on you anyway. For your benefit, of course. ............................................................................................. http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=19338&tag=nl.e539 June 5th, 2009 Behavioral Data: Valuing Customers. Then Avoiding Them. Posted by Tom Steinert-Threlkeld @ 4:23 pm There's little question that just about every profit-making company out there would like to know exactly what you're doing on the Web, all the time. And that there's a clear (profitable) market to be had in data that captures your "behavior" on the Internet. There is in fact, a street value for behavioral information, as Gartner analyst Andrew Frank, points out. And it's captured in "cost per thousand" calculations on data exchanges such as BlueKai and Exelate. These relate to the anonymous IDs, aka cookies, that Web sites use to track sale, purchase and other activities. Advertisers pay ad networks anywhere from $1.50 a thousand to about $10 a thousand, for the information, which then lets them target their pitches better and get higher returns on the "cost per thousand" they in turn pay for placing ads. The latest company to get caught in the crossfire of using this behavioral data is Sears, the once-proud retailer of all things American. Even kits to build houses (way back in its early catalog days). Its current incarnation, the Sears Holdings Management Company, in fact, put a price of exactly $10 on being able to attach some sort of code that would track very precise details about a person's "online browsing." This, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer, included details about online shopping, drug-prescription records, video rentals, library-borrowing histories, names and addresses of e-mail correspondents as well as bank statements. The recipient also would be able to take part in a "dynamic and highly interactive online community" where they could converse with Sears and its sister retailer, Kmart. But Sears and Kmart did not tell their past, present or potential customers (about 5,000 of the) that their "online browsing" would be tracked in such detail. And the Federal Trade Commission took the company to task. The charges were settled, with undisclosed (surprise, surprise) details. There are problems here that seem to be repetitive, among profit-making companies. a. A desire to know everything about a person's Web behavior. b. A desire to disclose as little as possible about what is being collected. c. A propensity to compensate the past, present or potential customer as little as possible. But the biggest problem seems a combination of not fully disclosing what you're doing or trusting your customer to understand that what you are doing is in his or her best interest. If it was in the customer's best interest, then it'd be an easy sell. You'd tell the existing or prospective customer that tracking his or her behavior would allow you to provide more useful features or services, or keep down subscription or other fees by allowing you to sell ads that would save them money, in the long run. In effect, you'd be able to get every customer to "opt in" for the service you're trying to provide. It'd be easy to explain, easy to get customer assent and easy to operate. It would be a win-win. You wouldn't have customers questioning what habits were being tracked, how deep the inspection of their packets went and what the uses were, a la the NebuAd kerfuffle last year. And you'd have, quite literally, buy-in from the customer for what you wanted to do. You know, eventually, opt-in - getting customers' agreement first - is going to happen. Has to happen. Google's the quintessential behavioral ad company and it will increasingly come under the microscope. Cable operators, from Comcast to Time Warner to Cox, all want to get into very targeted advertising on TV, not just the Internet. And yet, the Network Advertising Initiative that is supposed to be so mindful of customers and their rights to privacy is still opting for ... opting out as the principle of the day. Put the onus on the customer to say they DON'T want to be watched, rather than putting the onus on the company to get permission that they DO. What's the problem? That companies might actually have to listen to the customers they want to track and do more business with? Yes. What's got to change? The idea that interacting with customers, talking to and with them, is a hassle. "The first mindset change has to be the customer is an asset,'' said Anthony Nemelka, the president and CEO of Helpstream, a company that provides an integrated suite of customer support services over the Web. "The second is that the customer wants to be an asset -- and it is simply a matter of asking." What's holding them back? The mass of customers they might have to actually deal with. Millions of customers who you have to ask for assent before you can market to them. Or begin to listen to them. It's a hassle. In effect, Nemelka says, companies want to be protected from the customer. Heaven forbid they should ask for something. Or provide feedback. They couldn't handle "the deluge." But, you know, therein lies the power of blogs, tweets and other methods of instant publishing of experiences and sentiments. Companies who don't realize they aren't in control of their customers - that they have to get them to say "yes" in everything they do - aren't in control of their own businesses. "You can't deflect any more,'' says Nemelka. "You deflect at your own peril." Tom Steinert-ThrelkeldTom Steinert-Threlkeld is a journalist who has constantly looked at what media could become, rather than what they currently constitute. ............................................................................................. | |
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