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| 07-22-10 11:56am - 5267 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Midcore I feel there is a definite need for this classification, coined by Pat, to be adopted. People who are looking for softcore may not want toy use or even masturbation, which is currently lumped in with softcore. That should be in the new 'midcore' category. Somewhat on the other side of the coin, I see that ATK list Footfetish as hardcore. I would imagine that hardcore fans would find that disappointing too. It should fall into the softer end of the midcore category, I would think. I am sure there are a lot of 'niche' areas that would benefit from this reclassification. If properly implemented, I think it would save a lot of people, time, money & frustration. Cap'n.  Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 07-22-10 12:21pm - 5267 days | #2 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
There would be some value in adopting clear lines of separation between softcore, midcore, and hardcore. But getting the porn sites (of which there are probably hundreds of thousands of different sites, since porn is one of the most popular, downloaded/viewed categories) to agree to follow those guidelines would be difficult to next to impossible. Gettng PU/TBP to follow those guidelines would be more easily achieved. But I don't know how many PU members really want or need that classification/clarity. Most of us, I believe, are more easy-going, and try to get along by figuring out whether a site is softcore, or hardcore, or somewhere in-between. You make a decision that masturbation is softcore, midcore, or hardcore, and there will always be plenty of people who will disagree with that decision, no matter which category you put masturbation into. And the same holds true for most of the "blurry" edges of softcore, midcore, hardcore. Some people would probably argue that if the male penis is shown, that should properly be called hardcore. (For some reason, female nudity is much more acceptable and admired than male nudity). Some people would also argue that if the female vagina is gaping open, that would also be classified as hardcore. Remember, that back in the 1960s, the female breasts and buttocks could be pictured in nude magazines, but pictures of pubic hair was illegal (at least in the United States). And naked pictures of a vagina without pubic hair would have definitely been illegal and considered obscene. For the purists, and some of the PU members, it would be helpful to have a softcore, midcore, hardcore guideline. But for me, if I am able to find some porn that I find erotic, I am more than happy: I mainly go for softcore, but if I could find some erotic harcore, I wouldn't mind at all. I do tend to ramble, don't I?  | |
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| 07-22-10 12:32pm - 5267 days | #3 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
No, that is an interesting viewpoint. It may come down to how specific a niche you are looking for. I do think this mid classification is important though. A lot of people looking at softcore, not only me  , do not want toys involved.There will always be blurry edges open to individual interpretation, but a third category has to help. Much easier to find what you are looking for & avoid that which you are not wanting, than the current two tier classification. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 07-22-10 05:28pm - 5266 days | #4 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster  Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
I think I've said it before, but I think this is a really good idea. The whole area desperately needs clearing up. Maybe I should start an "official" body to police the new definitions? Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 07-22-10 08:08pm - 5266 days | #5 | |
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Goldfish (0)
Active User  Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
I'm curious how people classify lesbian sex in regards to hardcore/softcore? At times I've considered all lesbian sex softcore but other times I've considered some lesbian scenes hardcore if it is intense enough and includes fingering/oral. Thoughts? ...I like the "midcore" concept too. | |
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| 07-22-10 08:11pm - 5266 days | #6 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I can't speak for anybody else but I would definetely put masturbation under midcore. I think semi-nude or all nude are the only things that should be classified softcore. If you have one or more performer in the scene and there is kissing, breast fondling or contact with genitals then this is at minimum a midcore type of scene. The only way this would become hardcore is if there is penetration of any kind. A simple masturbation scene where one girl is working her magic on herself should be midcore. I think if it's a mastubation scene with 2 girls or a boy & a girl but no penetration then it's still a midcore scene. A BJ or cunnilingus are hardcore. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 07-22-10 08:15pm - 5266 days | #7 | |
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Goldfish (0)
Active User Posts: 265 Registered: Jan 19, '08 Location: Boston, MA |
I like Pat's definitions. All in favor? | |
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| 07-22-10 08:30pm - 5266 days | #8 | |
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Sevrin (0)
Active User  Posts: 80 Registered: May 30, '10 |
I've seen cunnilingus at Hegre and MPL. Would that make them hardcore sites? If it stops at oral sex, I'm not so sure that the hardcore appellation is warranted. | |
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| 07-22-10 09:31pm - 5266 days | #9 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
It's been a while since I was a member of Hegre, but I would think that both Hegre and MPL are firmly in the softcore category. Even if there were a tiny percentage of videos/photosets featuring cunnilingus, the vast majority of photosets/videos are strictly softcore. And met-art would be softcore as well, even if there is implied lesbian activity in some of the photosets/videos. Pat362 wrote: "If you have one or more performer in the scene and there is kissing, breast fondling or contact with genitals then this is at minimum a midcore type of scene." I disagree. Look at the "lesbian" photosets at met-art. There is slight to almost non-existent breast fondling or contact with genitals. And I believe most people at PU viewing such photosets would classify the photosets/videos as strictly softcore, and far too tame to be considered midcore or hardcore. My idea is that the "heat" or sexual activity of the model/models involved should determine whether the photoset/video should be considered softcore, midcore, hardcore. Slight contact of breast/groin/buttocks would not usually be midcore or hardcore, but part of softcore. Maybe someone should check to see how motion pictures determine the rating, not based on language or drugs or whatever, but on the explicitness of the sexual activity. That might provide a clearer definition/standard for softcore/midcore/hardcore. Am I skewing my opinions by trying to use the PU members as a body of judges? In a way, I believe the average PU member is far more hardcore than the general population. But at the same time, the purpose of the guidelines is to provide a guide for PU members, for people like the PU members who will be searching for porn. In theory, at least, the general population is not the audience for these guidelines; the target audience is the PU members and people like them who are active consumers of porn. Edited on Jul 22, 2010, 09:53pm | |
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| 07-23-10 12:34am - 5266 days | #10 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Obviously if you are only using 3 categories, they may be hard to define exactly what each includes/excludes, if you really wanted to categorize, I would think you would need more like 5 categories like: Nudes - naked only, nothing explicit (no close ups, masterbation, etc) Softcore - Closeups, masterbation, light lesbian - no insertions Midcore - harder lesbian material (insertion), toy play, etc. Harcore - Sex, blowjobs, perhaps some really hard lesbian/solo stuff (strap-ons, fucking macines) Extreme - Group, BDSM, gaping, anal, etc. I think there can definitely be "softcore" groping and kissing - like pretty much any of the American Lightspeed material. Just my two cents, perhaps this would clarify some of the debate, I think to try and fit it all in soft/mid/hard would be difficult. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 07-23-10 01:16am - 5266 days | #11 | |
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anyonebutme (0)
Active User  Posts: 294 Registered: Aug 23, '09 |
Eh, I generally separate the two by, any scene that is gentle to the girl is softcore, any scene that is abusive to the girl is hardcore  Then there is no need for "midcore" | |
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| 07-23-10 02:33pm - 5266 days | #12 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I think going from two to three classifications would be helpful. As I inferred in the original post there is a lot of material which starts out softcore ( progression up to full nudity ) then immediately proceeds to masturbation & toy use ( midcore ). Conversely you get things like footfetish material labelled as hardcore, when I think it errs nearer to softcore. I don't think there is a need to overcategorise, but I do think a midcore category would be helpful, even if only as a means of defining more strictly softcore & hardcore. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 07-23-10 03:02pm - 5266 days | #13 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I think these five classifications are well thought-out.  And I agree that things would be too "fuzzy" with fewer -- even if the girls are shaved! I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 07-23-10 03:39pm - 5266 days | #14 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Hmm... Softcore should include clothed through to full nudity without insertions or masturbation.  Also groping & kissing I would put at midcore. I would keep it three tier for ease. It has to be an improvement over the current two tier system. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! Edited on Jul 25, 2010, 03:51am | |
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| 07-23-10 10:39pm - 5265 days | #15 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I would certainly like to think so, and I am very honored you believe that we here at PU are more hardcore than average.  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 07-23-10 10:45pm - 5265 days | #16 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
These are some interesting categories but I would like to think that even something as innocent and natural as masturbation could earn its way into the hardcore category, or at least have a viewer remarking afterward "Whoa, now that was hardcore! In fact, I think they went too far--that girl was out of control!"  "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 07-24-10 04:24am - 5265 days | #17 | |
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Sevrin (0)
Active User Posts: 80 Registered: May 30, '10 |
In the end, there will be a need for subjective judgment calls. Slutty's list works for me in general, but, when judging a site, we'd have to look at what the great majority of the offered material consists of. Hardcore sites don't stray much, but some softcore sites occasionally get a little raunchy. | |
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| 07-24-10 10:05am - 5265 days | #18 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
I like the tier level idea. It saddens me when, as my sites are not artistic nude, but do include full nudity, occasional tasteful closeups (no spread shots!) and soft forfeits that sometimes include light spanking, my sites get pushed into the hardcore category. They feature no sex, no arousal, no toys or masturbation. People who are deliberate searching through a hardcore category almost certainly will not like my sites. When I first started out years ago there was only one tier: Porn. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. Edited on Jul 24, 2010, 10:16am | |
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| 07-24-10 08:32pm - 5264 days | #19 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
It's Human nature to want to name things so that we can better classify them. I think slutty's list is nearly perfect because it covers almost every possible option. It can never be perfect because there will always be someone who's not happy. Your sites fall in between 2 definition. They're mostly softcore but because you've added spanking then you get pushed toward a midcore. I don't think they should be called hardcore and I agree that people visiting and possibly joining your sites would be more angry that happy with the content. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 07-25-10 01:07am - 5264 days | #20 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
Damn, I need to learn how to spell. I wish I could say I was drunk when I wrote that, oh well, let's say I was drunk anyway. How can I be a PU and not know how to spell masturbate?! I guess I deserve a few demerits on that one. I agree with pat362, no matter how you categorize things, there will always be someone that thinks some certain case applies in a different fashion. And obviously a lot of porn sites have content that varies, but at least one could say the majority of the content is "softcore" or whatever. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 07-25-10 03:46am - 5264 days | #21 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
The reason I am attempting to define this better is because I find it very difficult to find sites that provide exactly what I am looking for. I can find a few softcore sites which do the striptease but do not consistently go to full frontal nudity, if at all. I can find sites that do go to full nudity, but overshoot by immediately plunging into masturbation & frantic toy use.  By pinning some stuff in the middle ground, I am sure a lot of frustration for softcore & hardcore lovers could be avoided. I do appreciate classification can be subjective & there are grey areas, but it has to be an improvement over the way things currently stand. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 07-25-10 04:05am - 5264 days | #22 | |
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Ed2009 (0)
Suspended Webmaster Posts: 509 Registered: Sep 12, '09 Location: Wales, UK |
I'm with you on this one, Cap'n. Webmaster of StripGameCentral and A Measure of Curiosity. | |
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| 07-25-10 05:25am - 5264 days | #23 | |
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Sevrin (0)
Active User Posts: 80 Registered: May 30, '10 |
Ah, now I understand. You are not so much interested in the midcore yourself, but in a more limited definition of softcore. Then Slutty's definition of softcore would still be a little too hard, since it includes masturbation. | |
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| 07-25-10 07:08am - 5264 days | #24 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Exactly so. Whilst there is going to be some grey areas, I think a third classification may help both sites & surfers. I think I see it very similar to Pat. Softcore. From entry level fully clothed eroticism to top threshold full body nudity. No penetration No gynaecology (sp?) Hardcore. Entry level Anything involving sexual intercourse. Anything falling in beween the two thresholds, midcore. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! Edited on Jul 25, 2010, 07:34am | |
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| 07-25-10 08:49am - 5264 days | #25 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Your biggest problem isn't the fact that a striptease site is classified softcore as much as the site is slightly misleading about it's content. In my book any site that advertises stripteases should require most the performer to remove all their clothing because otherwise it's really a topless site. The same applies for a site that claims to be nude only. The majority of the scenes should be nudes or partial nudes. That means no masturbation, no lesbian, boys or toys anywhere. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 07-25-10 09:27am - 5264 days | #26 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
That is right, Pat. That is why I find sites like Only Tease really frustrating. So little full nudity & even less than they are claiming. Quite often their so called 'nude' sets aren't.  By leaving on shoes & hose they miss out some of the most erotic part of the strip. Others sites that do immediately rush into masturbation & toy use before anything in the way of softcore full nudity. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 07-25-10 10:59am - 5264 days | #27 | |
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Sevrin (0)
Active User Posts: 80 Registered: May 30, '10 |
I found OT frustrating as well. Went through at a lot of grey pantyhose (is that some kind of British fetish?) for very little payoff. The site's high ranking here is a mystery to me. | |
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| 07-25-10 11:03am - 5264 days | #28 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Aye. For me that has been a problem for years. I am sure I am not alone in wanting to see full nudity on each item in a site such as this. I know folk will come back and say it is a tease site, but a tease should always have a pay off. I am not looking for midcore, just consistent strips to full nude.  Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 07-25-10 11:56pm - 5263 days | #29 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
I think if that's what you are going for, Cap'n, than Only Tease is probably not a site you should have joined. The name of the site is, after all, Only Tease, so one would expect that there is a lot of tease! Softcore in your terminology would include Only Tease, so I am not sure how this would help? I guess you would avoid the toy use, but you certainly wouldn't avoid sites like Only Tease. I do, however agree, that stripping is a vastly underserved area of internet porn, quite curious considering I would think Johnny McStripclubowner in Vegas could film his ladies and put up a site quite easily. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 07-26-10 09:59am - 5263 days | #30 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Yes, the way I see it softcore goes up to a certain level ie. full frontal nudity. For sure it includes any tease site, I do enjoy the tease, but as I said above, they aren't worth anything to me, unless I know I will get the full nude pay off. What it would do is take masturbation & toy use out of the softcore equation, which would help a lot. IMO they have no place in traditional striptease, whereas full nudity should & does. Striptease is a vastly underserved niche in both photo & video format. I have been banging on about this for years, with limited success.  Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 07-26-10 03:35pm - 5263 days | #31 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
You can always join that virtua girl place, if it still exists... Although I found the installation of an application to be a nuisance and the "video" quality was definitely lacking. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 07-26-10 04:07pm - 5263 days | #32 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Yeah, tried that. Thanks for the suggestion anyway. Not really impressed with it TBH. I like a slow progression from fully clothed to full nude & prefer photosets. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 07-26-10 04:25pm - 5263 days | #33 | |
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Sevrin (0)
Active User Posts: 80 Registered: May 30, '10 |
For a long time, I didn't like the idea of live shows at all, but I've come to enjoy them a lot. You may want to give them a try. My current haunt is Chatgf, which I just wrote up. The models start off clothed; sometimes fully, and sometimes in lingerie or a nightie, and they *always* undress fully, usually by the half-way point in the show, but there's no touching. Some of the models, e.g., Rymma (the astonishing Mira A on MET-Art), Ira (Ira A), Aliona (Lada C), Elvira (Fiona A) have been on some photo sites, but most are cam only. Yeah, I really like that site. It can get expensive if you ever decide to go for private shows, but the public shows are, apart from the ante required for membership, really cheap. I'll probably be there until I get tired of looking at nekkid ladies. Updated: Public shows are only free for those lucky few of us who signed up before they started. For anyone else there's no free period. Edited on Jul 27, 2010, 06:56pm | |
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| 07-26-10 04:38pm - 5262 days | #34 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Thanks. As so often, perhaps not an ideal fit, but I'll bear that one in mind anyway. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 08-10-10 12:24pm - 5248 days | #35 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I just saw more evidence of needing this midcore classification. ATK Galleria are listing masturbation sets as hardcore. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 08-10-10 10:36pm - 5247 days | #36 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
This is actually somewhat common, Cap'n, my favorite is the sites that call anything involing the ass "Anal". Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 08-20-10 10:45am - 5238 days | #37 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
Any input on this from webmasters would be interesting! Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 08-26-10 11:48pm - 5231 days | #38 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User  Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
I think the only solution is to request that the ISO (International Organization for Standardization) gets involved and carefully classifies pornography. I'd recommend the classification number of ISO 69 or ISO 8005 (old calculator joke) but alas, both are already in use. Off topic, but Ed2009 - is that a thinly veiled reference to that lovely Robocop droid, the beloved ED-209? I certainly hope so "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!"Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 08-27-10 01:44pm - 5231 days | #39 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I don't think there is any need to invite officialdom into the process. That would be sure to gum up the works. If it came into general use that would be sufficient. At least it would be an improvement in the current unsatisfactory situation. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 08-28-10 10:39am - 5230 days | #40 | |
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Toadsith (0)
Active User Posts: 936 Registered: Dec 07, '07 Location: USA |
If we can't approach porn with scientific detachment and precision, why are we here? Nothing is more sexy than finding a nude woman's specific gravity. "I'm not a number, I'm a free man!" Second Grand Order Poobah in the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo | |
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| 08-28-10 11:11am - 5230 days | #41 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I agree and I'm willing to volunteer my time to the task. While I'm conducting those experiments. I can find out if implants improve floatation or not. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 08-28-10 11:23am - 5230 days | #42 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User  Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
I completely agree with slutty's listing. He nails it. | |
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| 08-28-10 12:42pm - 5230 days | #43 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I still say masturbation shouldn't be in softcore. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 08-28-10 01:27pm - 5230 days | #44 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
Masturbation covers anything from diddling the clit with a fingertip to jamming a zucchini or bottle up the snatch. Slutty's definition identifies the former as softcore and the latter as midcore. Back a few decades ago when Hugh Hefner and Larry Flynt gave the world an opportunity to see female genitalia in mass market publications, the rule seemed to be no touching at all. Penthouse began the clit touch and Flynt the pussy spread hold. But insertions of fingers, dildoes, veggies, etc. was still against the rules until the late 90's. I suspect that's why Slutty distinguishes between "soft" masturbation and "hard" masturbation. | |
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| 08-29-10 01:48am - 5229 days | #45 | |
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slutty (0)
Active User Posts: 475 Registered: Mar 02, '09 Location: Pennsylvania |
As Monahan said, I was intending the "soft" masturbation to be light touching - Cinemax style. But I can see Capn's point, although in my mind there is definitely a style of masturbation in porn that I consider softcore. Bunny Lebowski: I'll suck your cock for a thousand dollars. Brandt: Ah hahahahaha! Wonderful woman. We're all, we're all very fond of her. Very free-spirited. | |
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| 08-29-10 03:10am - 5229 days | #46 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I do appreciate that there are thresholds or shades of grey in this process. Going to 3 definitions from 2 is not too onerous. Basically, the way I see it anything that does not fall in softcore or hardcore, is midcore. Keeps it simpler that way, whilst still helping folk find what they are looking for. I think over-complication should be avoided. Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 08-29-10 05:49am - 5229 days | #47 | |
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Sevrin (0)
Active User Posts: 80 Registered: May 30, '10 |
If you're naked for no reason, it's softcore. If you're naked for a reason, it's not. | |
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| 08-29-10 06:13am - 5229 days | #48 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
An interesting quip!  I like it.  Cap'n. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU AwardHilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 08-29-10 12:56pm - 5229 days | #49 | |
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Monahan (0)
Active User Posts: 348 Registered: Jan 17, '07 Location: SF Valley, CA |
Agree. My motto is "Eschew Obfuscation." | |
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| 08-29-10 01:08pm - 5229 days | #50 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Perhaps a better motto would serve: Speak Plainly. Then we wouldn't need a dictionary to understand our motto.    Edited on Aug 29, 2010, 01:12pm | |
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