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| 08-16-09 06:16am - 5569 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Generation gap Does porn has a generation gap - is there any difference in your liking of porn in relation to your age? Or maybe better: what you want from porn-sites - in quality in general. (we all got different tastes) But: What does - us - middleaged guys want - and want does the youth (younger PUs)want and expect from pornsites. Think about it - it looks like we're all in the same boat here... Guys like mbaya (60), lk2fireone (58), messmer (53) Drooler (51), jd 1961 (48) and yours truly (47).........compared to fellow users like nygiants03 (22), apoctom (26), and the newer guy, dracken (22). And then of course all the fellow PU in their primes... ('Wish I was 30 again' - quote Merle Haggard). Just went through a couple of drackens fine reviews and comment - it might as well be written by an older guy with much more experience (in years) So is there a generation gap here? I don't think so. "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 08-16-09 06:37am - 5569 days | #2 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
I don't think there's much. From what I've seen in poll results that address the question, there's never been any significant difference. This doesn't surprise me. For one thing, standards of beauty, from what I've read, are pretty much universal in space (cultures) as well as in time. People do vary in their porn tastes. Some like toy play; others, like me, don't. But I doubt that the "gap" distinguishes, say, Boomers from Gens X or Y. There might be a "degeneration gap." It takes a while to become a bona fide dirty old man. ;) I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 08-16-09 06:47am - 5569 days | #3 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Man, you got humor - but then again I've always known that - and it always makes me laugh sitting in front of that ol' pc: 'It takes a while to become a bona fide dirty old man'. Great line..... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 08-16-09 06:50am - 5569 days | #4 | |
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mbaya (0)
Suspended  Posts: 891 Registered: Jul 07, '08 Location: new jersey |
I must agree that Dracken's reviews have been quite excellent. I also predict that a young guy, perhaps him, will pass Exotics one day. As far as your question, I don't think there is much difference in preferences due to age or generation. However, I think we older PU'ers like more of what porn was like when we were younger-more story, more buildup, and find hair down there to be sexy. | |
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| 08-16-09 07:10am - 5569 days | #5 | |
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Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Well, exactly - or should I say - I got the same feeling. Right now I'm looking into as much "vintage-stuff", as I can find - stuff from the old US "Swedish Erotica" and some of the older French and German material with models like Marilyn Jess and Dolly Buster ... and alike. Just for variation, too. "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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| 08-16-09 08:06am - 5569 days | #6 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
exotics4me is a psychologist. I would guess that he could make up a few polls, that could be posted on PU just like the regular polls, to get a solid idea of what generation gaps exist for PU members regarding porn. That would be a more rigorous approach to identifying the differences that age brings to porn addicts. I am guessing that most PU members would be considered porn addicts by a psychologist, even if that is not the exact term the psychologist would use. I once read an article back in the 1960s that stated that anyone who consumes more than 4 alcoholic drinks per year is an alcoholic, which I thought was surprising. But that was an article published in a family magazine, not published in a psychological journal. As for mbaya's preferences, I totally agree: "we older PU'ers like more of what porn was like when we were younger-more story, more buildup, and find hair down there to be sexy." Actually, I prefer the term "experienced" to "older", because even though I might have two feet in the grave, they haven't started shovelling the dirt onto me yet. | |
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| 08-16-09 08:30am - 5569 days | #7 | |
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messmer (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I think there's quite a difference, maybe not when it comes to judging a model's beauty but in smaller things. I've seen too many times when a younger member expressed revulsion at the thought of pubic hair. There's also the easy acceptance of thongs as underwear :-) and pantyhose as erotic and worthy of being a fetish. And, when it comes to hardcore videos, read some of the comments where younger members confess that they like Video Box because it allows them to make up their personal clips that leave out most of the action leading up to the "money shot." I rest my case! :-) | |
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| 08-17-09 11:11am - 5568 days | #8 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 08-18-09 05:45pm - 5567 days | #9 | |
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GCode (0)
Active User  Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
Hm, I am a bit confused as to what the generation gap consists of? Are you talking about just overall tastes, as in maybe differences in the niches of porn? Or, is it a question of the type of content as in a comparison of ages of women in the scenes involved? For example, that maybe an older generation would want porn involving models their own age or maybe that there could be a difference that younger viewers want their women older (milf type sites) and the older generation may want to see more younger models? Or, are we talking about how the reviews are written and differences between them? Maybe some more input of what others may think can help me get a better picture as to what the gap differences could be? Sexted From My iPad | |
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| 08-18-09 06:41pm - 5567 days | #10 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
The main differences in taste between the generations that often appear are: pubic hair, breast implants, tattoos and general body shape(thin/fat). Many of us prefer natural breast but I suspect that most PU members below the age of 30 have only seen porn with actresses having or getting breast implants somewhere within her career. I read that some actresses did get them in the 70's but I never noticed it. I grew up watching porn with pubic hair so I prefer that look. Not a bush mind you but actual pubic hair well trimmed and maintained. The clam look is fine on some women but the razor rash and stubbles really detract from the fantasy aspect. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 08-18-09 07:10pm - 5567 days | #11 | |
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GCode (0)
Active User Posts: 386 Registered: Feb 23, '09 Location: USA |
I put those polls up and it found (at least the PU members that voted) that all generations found tattoos to be off putting and fake breasts are not be preferred. I am not saying that your argument for differences in those realms could not hold bearing but maybe the majority of PU members are a bit more sophisticated (dunno if that's the right term to use but I'll use it) when it comes to how they like their models, but the common trend between all generations in those polls appeared to be an all natural look to their models. I suppose the pubic hair thing can hold truth, with me being in my 20's, I am not in to pubic hair at all (just my opinion though). Sexted From My iPad | |
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| 08-18-09 09:07pm - 5567 days | #12 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User  Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Pubic hair is kinda like having a bra that never comes off. Yeah you can slide you hand under it and feel it but you never get to truly see the breast in its entirety. I want to see everything. I love the smooth curve of a shaven woman. This really is not much different from people preferring men to shave their faces, other than the face spends more time visible. A bit strange is that in real life pubic hair is not as bothersome to me. In porn it nearly always needs to be shaven. When it comes to tattoos and piercings I am also in the seeming majority that does not find these attractive. This seems a bit odd though because the tramp stamp seems so popular, yet so many do not like tattoos. Personally I do not like either in porn or in life. When it come to breasts being real or fake there seems to be agreement that real is better. The difference comes into play on the tolerance of breast implants. Personally I do not mind them and many others agree. There is also a large group that does not want to see them and wish that more women would stay natural. Personally I do not mind breast implants in porn or in real life, but I do have a preference for the real thing. Breast shape plays a very important role for me, great shape can be more attractive than great size without shape. Mentioned also was younger people want to go straight for the money shot and skip intro before the action. I do not know if this holds merit or not but I for one get very little from the cum shots and enjoy the foreplay. Maybe there is a generational difference and perhaps there is not. One thing has shown itself is that the contributing members here are not typically looking for the wam-bam-thank-you-mam style of porn. So even if other places host people that only concern about that at least you can come here and talk to the more "sophisticated" people, as GCode put it. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 08-19-09 06:35pm - 5566 days | #13 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
No, I believe you are correct that most PU members still have issues with tattoos and breast implants. I may be confusing what I read here with what I read on other forums but I have noticed a trend developing where porn fans don't seem to mind and in some cases welcome the girls that get large tattoos and breast implants. I think pubic hair may be the only true generation gap issue. I know that I miss it and am always thrilled when I see a performer with it. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 08-19-09 09:52pm - 5565 days | #14 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Those are all just differences in the physical aspects of models, but there are also some big differences in what is acted out in today's porn and what was done, say, only twenty years ago, regardless of what the models look like. One good example is anal; it is almost standard in any boy-girl fare today, and seemingly becoming even more so in almost any type of content (girl-girl, solo, threesomes and groups). Now, not having any anal is what is mentioned, not the other way around. From what I have seen in American porn from the 1970s and '80s, anal was anything but standard, I suspect because most women simply didn't like it, it wasn't done very often, and therefore there was no buildup in demand from fans. Once directors and producers started to really include it in videos (Max Hardcore is probably a good early example, but I won't give him all the credit), it caught on and now floods today's market. I am not saying women really like anal any more today than they did in the past, but I doubt the wants and needs of actresses have ever been the business's top priority -- making money is the priority. So if a girl can get more work with the back door, and she can tolerate it, then she will probably do it to make more money. The examples you bring up of breast implants and pubic hair (or lack thereof) have become almost contagious in porn, catching on with so many otherwise beautiful young women. I would argue fake breasts look good on almost no model, and even though I prefer the shaven look, stubble and razor bumps are definitely unattractive. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 08-20-09 02:11pm - 5565 days | #15 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User  Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
I'd like to see a demographic breakdown of the signups at the sites I call porn mills. I'd be willing to bet that sites like Brazzers and Bangbros have memberships from mostly younger people. Outside of this forum, I don't get to talk to a whole lot of people about their porn preferences but, of the ones I have talked to and who are around my age, there seems to be a wish that gonzo porn would just go away. Yeah - I'd say there's a definite generation gap in porn. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 08-20-09 05:04pm - 5565 days | #16 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 08-20-09 05:36pm - 5565 days | #17 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Oh, I'm not quite so sure about that ... if I may be so bold ... I'm working my way down Geezer Lane, but MILF sites don't appeal to me. The women aren't fresh and young enough! I'll bet my vasectomy that MILF sites excite the younger, Oedipally excitable crowd. I mean, us older dudes won't even call those birds "Moms I'd Like to Fuck." To us, they're just birds or something like that. Some of us are Dads, anyway. And isn't it about time for DILFs? It's just not fair! (BTW, I've not had a vasectomy but just tossed that in for "effect.") I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 08-20-09 06:35pm - 5565 days | #18 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
Regarding DILFs, isn't that what teen sites are for? | |
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| 08-20-09 06:47pm - 5565 days | #19 | |
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Wittyguy (0)
Active User Posts: 1,138 Registered: Feb 04, '08 Location: Left Coast, USA |
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| 08-20-09 07:05pm - 5565 days | #20 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Actually there are quite a few actresses that did anal in the 70's and 80's but many of their movies or loops are lost to time. Of course they did maybe one or two scene at most, but you can see that anal was becoming much more popular. That opened the door to actresses that either enjoyed it or at least enjoyed the money it brought. Vanessa Del Rio's name comes to mind when I think anal and the 70's. I agree that Max is at the top of the list of people that have made anal so popular today. There was a time when what he made was quite good. The strange thing about Max is that what he did later years and most people find so deplorable, is now common in many gonzo porn made today: Gagging, Choking, Drooling, Slapping, Weird positions, and many more things as well. I could have lived without it. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 08-20-09 09:32pm - 5564 days | #21 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Uh oh! Drooler just got drafted to a gay site. I bet that is not the kind of porn you always envisioned yourself as going! :) u===> - - - :O "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 08-20-09 09:47pm - 5564 days | #22 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
I have seen anal occasionally in the more 'Classic' era of porn, but it seemed to be treated somewhat differently. For starters, it never seemed to be the closeup, in-your-face, do or die mayhem seen so often today. You could also apply this to how a lot of things are currently treated in porn, but anal is a pretty extreme example -- and I am not nearly creative enough to make an educated enough guess as to where it could be going... It is still bullshit how Max has been punished for what many have copied from him -- all the gagging, choking, abusive shit he loves doing -- and made it a little milder so as to not get in trouble. I think if it remained somewhat exclusive to him and his videos it would have been okay, but when everyone does it to the point that they do now, it is just repetitive, degrading and pointless. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 08-21-09 12:46am - 5564 days | #23 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
I am still a bit puzzled by Max Hardcore and his criminal charges. I thought they stopped witch hunting a long time ago. The girls he worked with came out and said that Max told them that they could stop at any point or let him know if he is getting too rough. They were not forced into anything. At least that is what they said. People will always mimic those who do well at something. If someone gets known for something others will follow and try to get some of the glory. Squirting seems to be another recent fad. It is evident in a lot of newer stuff. I really do not mind it being there, but when I look at older stuff it is a huge deal if the girl squirts. Now every woman in the world squirts, or so it seems in porn. I do not know if this is a generational thing, but it certainly is something that is being flooded...hehe, I made a funny :) "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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| 08-21-09 02:46am - 5564 days | #24 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Gay? Well, the idea never crossed my mind. ;) I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 08-21-09 06:08pm - 5564 days | #25 | |
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RagingBuddhist (0)
Disabled User Posts: 893 Registered: Jan 23, '07 |
You say you don't know, but then you said exactly what prompted me to make the point I did - gonzo gets old quickly. It's not a question of fetishes - it's more a question of the style that porn's become and the reaction to it, as in, "Damn when will they come up with something different?" So I think it'd be natural for the people who've been looking at porn over a longer period of time, especially people who grew up with 70's and 80's porn who are more likely to avoid the gonzo sites. I also guess it needs to be said that I know there's no clear dividing line here. I'm sure there are people of all ages who get into the gonzo style. Personally, I cast my vote for outlawing it. Sarcasm is a body's natural defense against stupidity. | |
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| 08-21-09 07:07pm - 5564 days | #26 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Anal like most other sex act was treated as though it was what 2 people into each other would do. Because that's what the director wanted to impart then the in your face camera style would have killed the mood. I don't know if you and I aren't creative enough or we are too scared to see where porn is going. I agree that what Max was found guilty for is bullshit. I also believe that he brought much of what happened to him upon himself. It may have been unknowngly but only he knows for sure. We might not all agree on what is truly obscene material. A majority of us would agree that most of the stuff he made in the last couple of years pushed the boundaries a little too far. I was a huge fan of Max's early 90's stuff. He had a style that was copied by many other directors. It's too bad that many of todays director still copy his newer style. Watching one girl drool or vomit on another girl that's getting F..d by Max is just discusting. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 08-22-09 09:42pm - 5562 days | #27 | |
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turboshaft (0)
Active User Posts: 1,958 Registered: Apr 01, '08 |
Yes, most sex in classic porn seems to be treated as more of a one-on-one thing, as opposed to today when even in simple boy-girl scenes you get a feeling of the "invisible hand" of the director, or whoever the hell happens to be calling the shots. For me, a really good scene -- whether it is slow and sweet, or fast and nasty -- is when you get lost in the action and passion of the sex, not necessarily its basic mechanics. "It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hardcore Commie works." - Gen. Jack D. Rippper, Dr. Stranglove | |
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| 08-23-09 05:56am - 5562 days | #28 | |
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Drooler (0)
Disabled User Posts: 1,831 Registered: Mar 11, '07 Location: USA |
Hey badandy400, I really like your new avatar, the "New Folder." It says a lot. I'd say it's poetic. I find myself making quite a few new folders in not much time. I wanted something new, so I left England for New England. | |
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| 08-23-09 07:24am - 5562 days | #29 | |
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lk2fireone (0)
Active User Posts: 3,618 Registered: Nov 14, '08 Location: CA |
badandy400, I second the vote for your new avatar. I think the design is classy, elegant, and simple. And it helps the mentally challenged (like me) that you you label the folder, to let us know what it's for (To hold your porn collection. But maybe you will need more than one folder if your collection is properly organized). Two thumbs up for your new design. | |
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| 09-14-09 02:56pm - 5540 days | #30 | |
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Capn (0)
Active User  Posts: 1,740 Registered: Sep 05, '09 Location: Near the Beer! |
I don't think of it as a gap. Sex will always sell. How it is packaged & presented varies with time, but it is only the packaging. The rest comes down to variations in personal preferences, which has nothing to do with generations per se. Just the way it strikes me. Admiral of the PU Hindenburg. 2009 PU Award Hilarious Post of the Year 2010 PU Award ( I would have preferred it to be Helpful Post of the Year for Guys who Hate 'Retail Therapy' ) :0/ Sanity is in the eye of the Beholder! | |
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| 09-16-09 03:07pm - 5538 days | #31 | |
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badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
That avatar is their for two reasons. One being that the "New Folder" disease has been plaguing my porn collection for years. The second, and more direct, reason was in response to Exotics4me. He has this thing about all folders MUST be named, which is a good thing. He said if he found an unnamed folder it drove him nutty until he corrected it. So, just to be a dick and get under his skin a little, I made that avatar because it is a "New Folder" that no matter how hard he tries he just cant seem to change it. Kinda like eating pizza in front of a friend who is on a diet. :) It really was meant as a gag for our friend E, but the more I look at it the more I like it. You guys are right, it is simple but so loaded with meaning. The 'New Folder" can be symbolic of so many things. Maybe I should make a painting of it. Hell, those people get millions for kicking over a paint can on a piece of canvas! At least with mine you can actually tell what it is. Maybe that is my get-rich-fast plan?!?! "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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