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| 02-27-21 08:17am - 1351 days | Original Post - #1 | |
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MikeC
PornUsers Staff  Posts: 102 Registered: Jul 03, '15 |
TBP - What Do You Like? What Do You Not Like? Hi guys, Another general question I want to throw out there: - What do you like about TBP? And what would you like to change? Want to get a convo going and collect thoughts from some of our most loyal and regular readers. | |
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| 03-01-21 10:48am - 1349 days | #2 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
Mike, I don’t want to come across as a pessimist because I do think that there is still lots of life in Porn Users but for some reason much of the nature of the site seems to have changed. A lot of the original members and long-time regulars seem to have disappeared. I do think that part of it is that many reviewers focus on the potential reward of winning the raffle. I can only speak for myself, but up until several years ago the strong sense I had was that people enjoyed the community and camaraderie the Porn Users brought and it was a rare place to share ideas and thoughts about sites through reviews and comments. Sure, winning the raffle was always fun but I never got the sense that it was the motivating factor for many. I do think that it is the motivating factor for some here now. Hell, I’ll even admit that it was a bit of a motivating factor in my push to put some reviews up prior to the last raffle. But I hadn’t written many reviews recently so it was also a chance to clear up a bit of a backlog. I understand that this ship has sailed and won’t be coming back, but I think the points and ranking did contribute something to the site. New members/reviewers were always welcomed but the reviews might be read a bit differently until a person established their own credibility. Having points was one way of quickly assessing that with the user. I understand that there has been some controversy over a new review of Adult Time. I don’t think it was a particularly useful review but I’m not willing to throw the reviewer under the bus just yet. I’ve read some of the first reviews that I posted on this site almost 15 years ago and I’m a bit embarrassed by those. I evolved into being a better reviewer and I’m willing to give any new member here that same opportunity. I’m probably rehashing something that doesn’t need to be rehashed but it does seem like reviews of network subsites is an ongoing issue here. My thoughts on this issue seem straightforward in my own head but I also recognize that there is a lot of subjectivity about it. For me, the deciding factor as to whether or not I would review and/or support a review of a network site is whether or not the site itself has an element of uniqueness to it that separates it from the rest of the network AND the review itself is sufficiently unique to justify the review. For example, if a sub-site can (and in some cases actually does) stand on its own and have a unique theme then I’m not opposed to a separate review. But, in my opinion, the review must be of the unique aspects of that specific site. So, what I think I’m saying is that if somebody were to do a review of Team Skeet and then write individual reviews of sites like Innocent High and Daughter Swap by simply copying and pasting the network review and modifying it to include a line or two about the unique aspects of those individual sites then I wouldn’t support that. If, however, the review is substantially unique then I am fine with it. I understand that any review of the site like Innocent High or Daughter Swap should also point out that it is part of a larger network and I also recognize that a lot of the issues around site layout, usability and video specifications would be the same across the network. I don’t have any concerns about that. But what I oppose is a review of a site like Innocent High and Daughter Swap that simply mirrors a review of the larger network. This is also the reason why I am generally opposed to any reviews of the individual channels at Adult Time. If anything, I think there is an analogy between the Channels at Adult Time and the prohibition against reviewing a site based on a trial membership. If anything, I’m more open to allowing reviews on trial memberships. A full trial membership that gives full access to the site without limitations but for a shorter membership period is just that: it’s still a review of the full site. With Adult Time, any review of a non-exclusive channel isn’t apt to capture much of the relevant information from the source site itself. Take Evil Angel, for example. A review of the Evil Angel channel at Adult Time would barely even scratch the surface of a review of the actual Evil Angel site. It’s even possible, and maybe even likely, that any review of a non-exclusive Adult Time channel could be misleading. I should add that I wouldn’t apply this same thinking to the exclusive channels that are available at Adult Time. While many of these exclusive channels are quite small they are unique and can easily support a separate review. See, I told you that I wasn’t going to offer any solutions and I was true to my word! And speaking of my word, you have my word that I will hang out at Porn Users more frequently and stay longer and participate in more conversations. Any meaningful improvements to Porn Users really have to come from us, the members. Take care! | |
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| 03-01-21 01:09pm - 1349 days | #3 | |
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UMBA8 (0)
Active User Posts: 24 Registered: Mar 13, '18 |
I completely agree with rearadmiral's first point that the raffle seems to have taken centre stage, almost at the detriment of everything else this site has to offer. I even said as much in another post just recently. That's not meant as criticism, it's very generous of PornUsers to offer these prizes every month because us users certainly aren't owed anything. I do find it a shame that it seems to be the only reason for the vast majority to contribute here though, and much like rearadmiral I too have been guilty of that in the past! Given the size of the prize, it's not surprising though. Maybe the amounts could be reduced, and other ways of potentially giving back to the community if that's something you're keen to do could be looked in to? One suggestion I would make would be for the forum to be tidied up - I don't know if it's just my browser, but the first page and a bit seem to be pinned topics that don't really need to be pinned, and I have to go to page 2 to find the newer discussions. Perhaps a couple of separate boards too - one porn focused, and one for everything else? I know that might be a bit of a stretch given the general lack of discussion....but it might encourage a bit more 'on topic' chat. | |
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| 03-02-21 04:01am - 1348 days | #4 | |
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rearadmiral (0)
Active User Posts: 1,453 Registered: Jul 16, '07 Location: NB/Canada |
^ Having a couple of threads sounds like a good idea. I mostly focus on the porn-related stuff so having a thread for porn and a thread for other stuff would be time saver. | |
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| 03-03-21 10:31am - 1347 days | #5 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User  Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Thanks to rearadmiral for taking the time to say what he thinks, because that is very much what I think too, so that saves me a lot of time and effort. In the past I would have been happy to put in that time and effort because PU was fun, but for a number of reasons I no longer find that the case. Apart from what admiral says there are a few other reasons I shall list below. There was a happy serendipity with the atmosphere created by the original members who were intelligent, experienced, and comfortable in their own skin. For many reasons those originals started to leave, even before the new owners took over. You can't do anything about those who moved on for their own reasons, but PU could have been saved. I realise there is very little money in a site like this, but the owners have made very little effort with PU. They spend virtually no time and money on the place other than the expense of keeping it going. They spend virtually no time here, and no effort interacting with members. They give the impression of having no interest in what the members think. They give the impression of not giving a damn about members generally. Nearly everything they do is clumsy and tends to piss off someone. Personally I couldn't care less about the raffle, but some care a lot. You rarely get a happy forum, as there are usually trolls and people who are rude, but originals here were generally very polite and understanding. Possibly that was created by the way PU was run, and if you can't understand how that atmosphere was created, there is no way of retrieving it. I understand there will always be some kind of shilling as the place is here to promote porn, but there is a fine line between honest reviews with some promotion, and promotion purely for financial gain. The original owners occasionally crossed the line but mostly got it right. I rarely visit here nowadays but they are my thoughts. | |
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| 03-03-21 10:34am - 1347 days | #6 | |
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Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Duplicate Edited on Mar 03, 2021, 12:48pm | |
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| 03-04-21 07:04am - 1346 days | #7 | |
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elephant (0)
Active User  Posts: 583 Registered: Jan 11, '07 |
I still visit PornUsers when I can and its still a great site, sadly been going through a few personal issues with my health of late which has lead to me not visited as much as I'd like, sure it's a shame lots of the old members are not longer active, porn for me I still love but do wish there was more natural women pornstars without tattoos and caked in makeup dressed in stereo typical porn clothes, I have to say I prefer porn produced 10-15 years ago as it seemed more real and not overly produced with all these white backgrounds and everyone involved overly glam. Of course also paying extra for downloads puts me off joining lots of sites these days as I'm very much oldskool collector as opposed to streaming porn, just not for me. I do have a few reviews I must get finished and posted of certain sites I have joined though and I'd love for the site to get back to more like it used to be. "Women are like tricks by sleight of hand, Which, to admire, we should not understand." WILLIAM CONGREVE | |
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| 03-05-21 03:18pm - 1345 days | #8 | |
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pat362 (0)
Active User  Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
I can't think of a single thing that TBP needs to change or add to make it any better than it is now. Whatever formula the people behind the site came up decades ago still works for me. Just one addendum: I wish TBP had the power to change the level of piracy on the net so that we can maybe go back ot a time when we had multiple studios trying to do their own thing instead of having a few giant companies owning the bulk of all the porn already made of being made. Needless to say I don't think TBP, Rabbit or PU has that power but one can still wish. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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| 03-06-21 09:51am - 1344 days | #9 | |
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Wraith0711 (0)
Active User  Posts: 277 Registered: May 02, '15 Location: Pueblo CO USA |
The only thing I would change is reviews and reviews alone receive points. Replies to reviews and forum posts/replies get no points. The user formally known as homegirl/mbaya emailed me before he disabled his accounts and encouraged me to exploit the forum for easy points. The guy was just obsessed with the raffle. This is a loophole that should be closed. I wish the raffle was discontinued. One thing I wish they never got rid of was the member point system. Even though it stopped working the site veterans deserved recognition for their contributions. The OG's like Rearadmiral and Pat362 and so on put a lot of time into countless site reviews and in all honesty made this site what it became more than any of the admins ever did. Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should. Dr. Ian Malcolm Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him? Obi Wan Kenobi | |
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| 03-06-21 02:38pm - 1344 days | #10 | |
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LKLK (0)
Active User Posts: 1,583 Registered: Jun 26, '19 Location: CA |
@Wraith: As far as I know, replies to reviews don't get any points. And most forum posts and replies to forum points also don't get any points. There's supposed to be some way that a forum post can get a point, but it's very unlikely. The rule, that I remember, said that a forum has to be about porn, and it needs a large number of replies by different users to earn a single point. So the main way to get points is to write a review. And I think that a reply to the current poll might earn 1 point. But only 1 point. And only the current poll, no past polls. So there are no easy ways to get points, except through writing reviews, that are accepted. Replies to reviews don't earn any points. Even though the confirming email that reports if your reply was accepted (if your account is set up to get confirming emails) states that you get a point for accepted replies to reviews. Note: when you reply to a review, and if you are set up to get a notice that your reply was accepted, the confirming email states you earned a point. But that is misleading. Maybe in the old days you might have earned a point, but for years now, you did not earn any point. Confirming emails stating you earned a point can be misleading. The PU staff uses the system set up years ago, without updating the system to reflect in confirmation emails the current system of points. Note: when I first wrote this post, I said that you get a point if you reply to a current review. That was a mistake. What I meant was that if you reply to a current poll, you get a point. Edited on Mar 07, 2021, 08:40pm | |
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| 03-10-21 01:44am - 1341 days | #11 | |
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KayTBuffs (0)
Active User Posts: 4 Registered: May 27, '19 Location: Illinois |
This is one about TBP. I have used TBP for over 10 years, but don't remember if this has always been the case or not. When I go to the "new discounts" section, if there is a network with a new discount -- it will be listed then each of the 15-50 individual sites on the network are also listed. There will be one showing Reality Kings discount. I scan a little further and there is one for Mike's Apartment, there is one for 8th Street Latinas, there is one for We Live Together, which are all sites on Reality Kings. I wouldn't call it a major problem, but it does make it more difficult to find the different sites or networks discounts. I clicked on three different sites to join and all 3 were in the Mofos Network. Would there be a different way to list those or to even order how they are listed? That also goes to my thoughts on the user reviews of network sites. The first two porn sites I joined were Nubiles and Club Sandy. Not long after joining Club Sandy it became part of the 21 Sextury network. Not long after that 21 Sextury network split into 21 Sextury and 21 Sextreme networks. They then added 21 Naturals network. Now, all three of those once standalone networks which were networks of once standalone sites are all on Adult Time. That's a lot of sites that members used to join and maybe were even once favorites of members. The truly faithless one is the one who makes love to only a fraction of you. - Anais Nin | |
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| 03-18-21 11:27am - 1332 days | #12 | |
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pornpundit (0)
Active User Posts: 104 Registered: Mar 10, '07 Location: brooklyn ct. |
Thanks Rearadmiral..As usual your comments are well thought out,thanks. Let's all be straight with porn tubes around and sites becoming even more greedy then before regarding hidden " fees" for everything from downloads to quality it's no wonder that TBP has really slipped of late, even becoming complicit in some of the upscale schemes. I don't blame TBP for avoiding the subject but " porn Tubes " are the real elephant in the room. It's obvious that some of the staff are part time and it shows. Ratings don't match the write ups, information is left out, the facts that extra's including download fees are not highly STRESSED, and the quality ratings are way off!True, they are only MY opinion but " 720p " videos look fabulous"..please! I made a mistake on one of my comments a week ago , that a site was acting crazy and, by accident, I posted the same comments three times....I'm still waiting for someone to take down the dupes. But I digress! Adult time is one of the biggest offenders in regard to honesty, changing download limits, the fact that you must pay extra for downloads, and the fact that last week I took a one month membership not knowing you had to pay extra for downloads only to find that I was ONLY offered a one year download option at $100 bucks. In the " old days" you would first appeal to the webmaster, then the biller, then, as a last resort here at TBP where they would finally help you out. Now my appeal brought on an absurd response from a staff member I had never heard of. But again I digress!  From now on I take any advise from here with a huge grain of salt. If this " insults ' anyone tough! Oh BTW to Pat, what universe are you living in! Nothing is perfect! Look everyone, sorry to " have gone off" but I hate to see this place go to hell! Stay well everybody! Pornpundit Edited on Mar 18, 2021, 01:16pm | |
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| 03-18-21 01:01pm - 1332 days | #13 | |
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pornpundit (0)
Active User Posts: 104 Registered: Mar 10, '07 Location: brooklyn ct. |
BTW Pardon my cynicism but the " higher up's' must have overlooked the revue by Xander of XRed , itself a tube site ( they must be legit cause their here????). I hate the idea that the " tubes" rip off every site they can or use excess material from other sites trying to draw traffic but for a free week or for $10.00 bucks a month you can find AND DOWNLOAD ( if, in some cases, at a lower resolution) from tons of sites you may wish to preview and join. ( or not  ). I think it's the best bargain on the net! Pornpundit Edited on Mar 18, 2021, 01:06pm | |
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