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03-14-09 10:10am - 5724 days | Original Post - #1 | |
Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Am I out of order? - newsgroups What about newsgroups - what about the Usenet. Once I reviewed Easynews and Kahn deleted the review and stated that it is: Theft? Is it? Is the Usenet not the freedom of the net? Even if pratically all the stuff on the "binaries" is bottomline a matter of sharing - is that theft? I'm not sure.. The reasons for this thread are two: 1) Theft or not? 2) The all-time most popular usenet-provider, Easynews is in trouble: http://www.newsgroupreviews.com/easynews-review.html ...so does this PU-site have the frankness to discuss usenet or what? After all - the usenet contains maybe the most vast amount of porn... "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Mar 14, 2009, 10:18am | |
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03-14-09 10:30am - 5724 days | #2 | |
Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
Yes, you're out of order. :) Discussions of usenet and newsgroups here are inappropriate for two reasons. 1. If you'll look at our terms page, at the very top, the mission statement you'll see ... PornUsers.com is dedicated to providing a friendly, unbiased site where those who actually buy memberships to adult pay sites can share their experiences, both good and bad. ... as we've pointed out many times, our site is not for free porn. Not for reviewing it and not for sharing it. 2. The vast majority of content found in the usenet is stolen. By that we mean it's infringing on the copyright owner's right to restrict access to content they produce. While it makes some feel better to say "shared" that doesn't change the facts. It is being distributed by someone who does not own the legal copyright to do so. We choose not to be associated with copyright infringement or those who promote it. 'nuff said Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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03-14-09 10:47am - 5724 days | #3 | |
Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
OK, Khan....I both accept and respect that - and will try to remember it in the future....just had some kind feeling where "The Devil got inside me" - thing...freedom of the net and all....but, ok rules here are rules... so Cheers! "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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03-14-09 11:03am - 5724 days | #4 | |
Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
I very much agree with you Denner, both on the freedom of the internet thing and respecting the wishes of those who own and run this place. There is an organisation called the Electronic Frontier Foundation, who are perfectly legal but challenge copyright law and restrictions on freedom of expression, and those who would invade our privacy. I think you and others may well be interested in checking them out. TBP and the EFF may well be bedfellows in the future if things keep going the way they are going. | |
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03-14-09 11:27am - 5724 days | #5 | |
Khan (0)
Suspended Posts: 1,737 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: USA |
TheSquirrel, oddly enough, I used to operate/manage a CompuServe forum for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. I've also participated in their "Blue Ribbon Campaign" since I opened my first adult website. I donate to them regularly. Former PornUsers Senior Administrator Now at: MyPorn.com "To get your ideas across use small words, big ideas, and short sentences."-John Henry Patterson | |
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03-14-09 11:48am - 5724 days | #6 | |
Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
Squirrel, thanks - I'm a completely novice about EFF - never heard of it here in Europe - or rather the Continent, since your're UK-based - but your input/reply is a fine reason to do some browsing.... Like for most other (west)-europeans and US-citizens the main thing is: Freedom - and freedom of speech, freedom of the net.... But like you, I tend to agree that if PU has some rules - that does NOT collide with this freedom, we're ok... Cheers mate! "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" | |
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03-14-09 01:51pm - 5724 days | #7 | |
Tree Rodent (0)
Active User Posts: 708 Registered: Oct 29, '08 Location: UK |
Holy shit! Small world! They may well be our one hope when things start getting really bad. Or maybe I'm just being really negative. It is in my nature to be really negative, but I don't like the way things are going. Denner - check em out and see what you think. They have some great stuff on there. | |
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03-14-09 06:25pm - 5724 days | #8 | |
badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Khan, this is a good time to say "because I fuckin said so!" :) I personal do use newsgroups every now and then, however it is rare I download porn from it. In the instances that I have it is to see if a site is worth joining, such as MC-Nudes. I was a member a few years ago and I want to actually see what their videos looked like, I downloaded one and now they are my next site to rejoin. And another site I could not find a review for anywhere so I downloaded one video, liked it and joined them at the full price. In these instances the ability to download the video free actually helped them. Unfortunately most people do not use it in this way. While you do have to pay for newsgroups servers themselves it does not help the content owners at all. I do not feel that freedom of speech should apply here. People should pay for their porn. Websites give great dollar to content ratios compared to DVDs. If I had a site i would be pretty pissed to have a bunch of people getting it all for free. Most of the stuff on there is illegal. The other issue with download porn of the usenet servers is that you do not know exactly what you are getting. Do you trust someone that uploads someone's content onto the servers not to put a few extras in with the files. Plus, frequently they do not work in the end anyway. So for me I will keep getting my porn the legal way. It is much easier and safer. Plus it ensures that the right people are compensated for their work. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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03-14-09 06:29pm - 5724 days | #9 | |
ControllingMind (0)
Suspended Posts: 52 Registered: Jan 29, '09 Location: Inside An Unseen Force |
Some pay sites use usegroups etc as a way of carrot dangling anyway, giving prospective members a taste of their wares to tempt people into joining. There is a handful of top sites reviewed here, that have been reported about advertising on torrent, streaming and fileshare sites and are actually paying the piracy sites for advertising. Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast The First Stone. There is obviously double standards by certain well known sites in the fight against piracy. | |
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03-14-09 07:20pm - 5724 days | #10 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I gave up on the usenet recently because it has turned into a mire of spam. But I am grateful to the usenet of old that led me to quite a few pay sites. Posters (maybe from the sites themselves?) would publish some tempting picture sets and I couldn't resist subscribing in order to get the rest of the sets that contained models I liked. So, it's a mixed bag, technically some of it may be "piracy" but much of it will act as a tempting advertisement for a pay site. Weighing the pros and cons I don't think they have anything to complain about. | |
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03-14-09 07:33pm - 5724 days | #11 | |
jd1961 (0)
Active User Posts: 296 Registered: Jun 07, '07 |
Newsgroups? Do people still use those? I know google has all the old newgroups archived, but you don't need a newsreader. All the free porn a person can possible want is contained on google search. | |
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03-14-09 11:03pm - 5723 days | #12 | |
badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Again, the issue with free porn is that anything truly worth seeking out is not free. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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03-15-09 06:30am - 5723 days | #13 | |
kkman112 (0)
Active User Posts: 56 Registered: Mar 31, '07 Location: United States |
Believe it or not I was browsing the newsgroups back before they became almost nothing but channels for people to post porn. Back when people actually talked on them, before all the message boards and forums today. I do have to say that people were nice and helpful then. Today, people in forums seem single-minded, almost robotic in certain requirements and responses. Many are far too impatient and self-righteous. Unfortunately, Usenet is not really any easier to use today that it was 10+ years ago. It used to be free, someone just decided to slap a $30/month sticker on it as others shut down. They have all but become storage servers for porn (little actual talk going on now). The ones that are running today are mostly advertised as a way to upload and download porn. | |
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03-15-09 07:13am - 5723 days | #14 | |
Denner (0)
Active User Posts: 1,217 Registered: Mar 03, '07 Location: Denmark |
JD, if you got a good hint to access the usenet more easyly than via the newsgroups, I'd sure like to hear it. Been a member of this Easynews for more than five years - and the stuff (porn) is so damn easy to download ect. I'm a bit of a novice here, so any help would be great! Cheers! Denner BTW: GOOD that TBP did NOT censor/delete this thread! "I don't drink anymore - I freeze it, and eat it like a popcicle" Edited on Mar 15, 2009, 07:25am | |
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03-15-09 11:36am - 5723 days | #15 | |
Rick (0)
Suspended Posts: 401 Registered: Jan 05, '07 Location: Las Vegas, NV |
Hey guys, just a quick staff note. We don't want to censor this thread, so just a heads up... we do kindly ask that no links to adult-related newsgroup web-sites be posted here (sites that extract content, most of it copyrighted). We won't be able to keep such links on the forum if they are posted. Thanks for your cooperation. The Best Porn - Ultimate Consumer Guide to Porn Porn Users - Porn Review by the People Ranks.com, Inc., Chief/Founder | |
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08-04-09 03:27pm - 5581 days | #16 | |
happyending (0)
Active User Posts: 15 Registered: Aug 04, '09 Location: Mars |
What is wrong with reviewing a Newsgroup Provider? Easynews is a newsgroup provider. Google is a newsgroup provider. "vast majority of content found in the usenet is stolen" Should we ban all Internet Service Provider (ISP) too? If AOL provide users to copyrighted stuff (mp3, movies, etc) on the internet, should be ban AOL reviews. Newsgroups subscriptions start as little as $11.00 per month. Majority of the adult content on newsgroup are encoded in divx or xvid at 1.4 Gb (640X480) per movie (average 300 Mb per scene), and the adult movies are new releases. There are terabytes worth of adult content on newsgroups with constant updates evey hours, minutes, & seconds. If you want old movies, you must subscribed to websites like VideosZ, Videobox, or online DVD rental like Adult Netflix. Using newsgroup is very simple to download Adult content or read messages. Once you learn about NZB, it will be easier to navigate newsgroup. Go to wikipedia to learn more about NZB if you are interested. Thus, newsgroup has great new releases at 480p, but I prefer 720p or 1080p, so I subscribed to online DVD rentals & websites. Any website suggestion for 1080p content? Online DVD rentals carry only a small amount of Blu-ray Discs, and there is a long queue for the Blu-ray title vs the DVD titles. Only a handful of Adult studio can afford to put content on Blu-ray, and the discs are very expensive for rental place to have multiple copies. Digital Playground & Vivid published alot of Blu-ray Discs, but their films are blurry, fuzzy, green screen, playboy photoshop feel in the background. What is this called? On the other hand, Zero Tolerance does not have the blurry fuzzy green screen feel. It is just raw, which I prefer. Edited on Aug 05, 2009, 09:24pm | |
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08-04-09 04:16pm - 5581 days | #17 | |
badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
So are you saying that you condone pirated content? That likely will not site overly well here. We all pay for our content and pay those who put forth the effort in creating it, not simply those who allow you to download it for their own profit. People stealing content make sites charge more for it and results in site being made more difficult to download. Point is when people download content in that fashion they are making the rest of us pay for it. If you really want to pirate the content at least rent the movie from somewhere so the creators can get some sort of credit. These people deserve to at least know how many people have watched their work. There honestly is very few honest uses for the newsgroups. Sure if you have a DVD that gets scratched it is nice to be able to download the data for replacement, but for something already paid for. I have downloaded content from site that is uploaded to see if I liked it, I have joined all of those sites as a result. But other than things like that I really can not see much legal use for newsgroups and I am surprised they are still around. "Only a handful of Adult studio can afford to put content on Blu-ray, and the discs are very expensive for rental place to have multiple copies." I seen a deal on Newegg today for BDs at about $2.50 a piece. Considering the price a new porn DVD I am sure just about anyone can afford it. Buying the equipment can be a little different, but that is a one time cost. I would say a lot of that is supply and demand. Not that many people can play blu-ray and a lot of people are not the trusting of it this soon after the format wars. Besides, they difference in price for the content is not warranted by the increase in quality. The quality did not increase as much as it did when the switch was made from VHS to DVD. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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08-04-09 04:23pm - 5581 days | #18 | |
morgentau (0)
Active User Posts: 7 Registered: Nov 24, '08 Location: Germany |
I used to participate in newsgroup discussion regularly 7-10 years ago. Never subscribed to a binary provider though. There should still be some free usenet providers for text-only groups around. Besides Google of course. Binary newsgroups aren't much different than other forms of piracy, whether it's through P2P or free filehosts. @happyending: Most porn is produced with semi-professional camcorders like this one. These camcorders usually do not go further than 1440x1080 in resolution. Even if they can create 1080p format video files the quality isn't that of true 1080p. Camcoders that can shoot true 1080p like this one have only recently broken into the <$10000 price range. | |
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08-04-09 08:51pm - 5581 days | #19 | |
PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
I never figured out the whole newsgroup thing - Yahoo and Google groups - yeah. I got turned on to lots of great stuff that way - especially tease models and 21st Sextury stuff. In fact, when I was first trying to find which 21st Sextury site I wanted to join, I e-mailed them saying, "Hey, I see all this stuff that just has '21st Sextury' on it - which site should I join?" Instead of getting a response from someone in Sales saying "Join THIS site!", I got a response from someone in their Legal Dept asking me where I saw the stuff so they could stop it from being posted - WTF? I didn't join any 21st Sextury site for 2 years after that as a result. I understand the anti-piracy impulse, but I think it's like the music industry that was so hot to stop peer-to-peer file sharing and when they succeeded to a significant degree saw CD sales fall through the floor. Hell, the recording industry tried to stop radio from playing records in the early days, because they said - "If people can hear records for free, they'll never buy them" - yeah, that was smart! | |
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08-05-09 02:04am - 5580 days | #20 | |
dracken (0)
Active User Posts: 29 Registered: Aug 01, '09 Location: Chicago |
...I was never a user of usenet, but at one point in my past I did engage in sharing porn movies, because, hey why not if it's free anyway? Well...it's not really free, now is it? You can blow the freedom whistle all you want but the bottom line is that sharing stuff hurts the people producing it a lot. While a few thousand illegal downloads may or may not affect a big movie or a big studio (I'm thinking about stuff that's Hollywood sized) when you share stuff from a small producer..well, don't be surprised if they close down at one point or another or their prices skyrocket in order to keep paying the crew and the actors you enjoy, or if their quality goes down. People act all surprised when a promising website shuts down or when they increase security to the point that you are logged out every five minutes and have to plug-in three passwords and a key word. I'm not even going to mention the case of good websites starting to hire sub-par models and updating with old material and what not. More often than not this is due to people sharing website rips and what not. So is sharing really free? and is it really about your freedom? | |
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08-05-09 07:42am - 5580 days | #21 | |
james4096 (0)
Suspended Posts: 132 Registered: Mar 02, '09 |
I don't know that sharing hurts that much. For the most part there are two kinds of people, those that will pay for porn and those that will not. Those that pay for it, want top quality, they are specific about what they want and they want it now. Those that won't pay aren't so picky and if they couldn't get it for free they just wouldn't watch much porn. The same thing goes for music. I was never really one to buy music, but now that it can be downloaded free(pirated) I have lots of music. If they totally cracked down on music downloads, I'd go back to buying 1 or two CD's a year, or worse, 1 or 2 song downloads a year. I didn't do newsgroups much, but there was a time that I used to do peer-to-peer. The overwhelming majority of stuff in there was crap, but I did notice a few watermarks on the clips I liked and they led me to sites that I ended up purchasing from. | |
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08-05-09 03:23pm - 5580 days | #22 | |
pat362 (0)
Active User Posts: 3,575 Registered: Jan 23, '07 Location: canada |
Illegal downloading of anything hurts the industry that material is taken from. I think that pricing of the material greatly affects the amount of illegal downloads. I don't know if anyone has ever made a study but I suspect that the advent of Itunes and similar sites has drasticaly altered the amount of illegale download of songs and albums. I'm a major collector of music and I can say that I get kind of pissed when I have to buy the same album in 12", cassette and CD. I still did it but I haven't bought a single cd in over 3yrs. I go to I tune and buy the songs that appeal to me. If I find an album that has enough good songs then I'll buy the cd instead.(that hasn't happened yet. It's the same thing for movies (porn or otherwise) and web content. Every person that downloads and keeps that illegal material is money not going to the owner(s). These owners are in it to make money and if theur incomes drops below a certain level then so those the content and quality drop as well. Long live the Brown Coats. | |
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08-05-09 07:01pm - 5580 days | #23 | |
badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Yippie! 500 posts! Since we touched on downloading MP3's I would like to throw out one thing about that. Is it really fair to charge a dollar for a single song when that same song would cost the same on a CD. The point is they are charging equal amount for lesser quality. I understand for many people that is no issue, but for others it is. Of course if they were to offer lossless download format for the same price it might be a different story. Honestly what I think music might come to is bands producing their own music like it used to be done. They only needed record labels to get their music out there and on a particular media. Now people can make CDs for pennies themselves and can offer the music on the internet. They do not need the marketing as badly as in previous decades. I have seen bands who post their music for free download on their websites. They simply ask for donations. Whatever the listener believes the music is worth. Many people give them $5 or whatever, some give a dollar and other give $20. But it all goes to the band and people do not feel ripped off for buying music they do not like. I believe there can be a future in this type of marketing. Personally I have no problem paying people for their work as long as it is good work. I do believe James has a point as well and is something I have said before. If someone never intends on giving a dime for some given content can it truly be stealing if the downloaded it for free? I guess it comes down to what people feel is morally right. There is a lot of content out there I would not feel an ounce of shame for downloading with out paying. There is also a lot of content I would feel bad about stealing and I pay for it. Another slightly positive point that can be made about newsgroups is that when people steal content they never intend on paying for it at least does not cost the creators anything. If a person downloads 100 GB of Videobox videos it does not cost Videobox a penny in bandwidth. Now if those same videos where downloaded from a hack in to the Videobox website it would cost them 100 GB worth of bandwidth, whatever that cost might be. Happyending mentioned that his newsgroup service costs about $11 per month. I paid $120 for 18 months ($6.66 per month) of Videobox. Sounds like I might have gotten a better deal in that respect, and I can feel better about it knowing I am paying the right people. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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08-05-09 11:46pm - 5579 days | #24 | |
exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
For the last 5-6 years, I've been a partner in a small underground rap movement with Vinny Paz, Apathy, Celph Titled and about a dozen other underground rappers. We had worked with Babygrande Records/The Orchard labels. Vinny is making the move to his own label this year. We had a deal with emusic dot com to carry the cds, and allow members to download for lower prices than ITunes and Amazon Music. Depending on their membership, songs were as low as 25 cents each. Completely legal service, even in the United States. Since the artists and labels agreed to have the lower download price. Having said that, we've still be ripped off by youtube downloaders. No one on this label is a millionaire, most have other jobs, and do the music for the fun/love of it. The minimal price to download at emusic barely covers production costs. Most of our guys have full access to their own studio or to a friend's studio, but there are still fees included. Swing by youtube if you get the chance and search out this video, "Vinny Paz, Apathy And Now" Vinny has been rapping for 21 years and supports his mother and family with the money he makes. Second rapper in it is King Syze, his verse is okay, but Apathy comes in at 2:38, he's been rapping 11 years, no fame at all, though the majority of critics call him and Vinny two of the top 10 rappers over the last decade. Even if you don't like rap, you can at least get the artists side of it in this discussion from the lyrics. Ironically, the first thing we did once the song was finished was put it on youtube to get the word out. Serious irony, eh? The song is about the frustration of downloaders not paying for the music and both Vinny and Apathy hinting they are close to quitting the business because of it. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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08-06-09 12:47pm - 5579 days | #25 | |
badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
Sounds like free downloading is a love hate relationship. It helps creators get their creators seen or heard but can result in never being paid at all. They could always offer lower quality for the free downloads. The kind of quality that sounds like it is coming through a telephone. I have bought many songs because I downloaded lower quality versions and wanted a high quality version because it was good enough. Is there anything you are not into Exotics? By the way, I nominate Exotics for the next PU interview. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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08-06-09 03:01pm - 5579 days | #26 | |
messmer (0)
Disabled User Posts: 2,582 Registered: Sep 12, '07 Location: Canada |
I second that nomination! | |
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08-06-09 08:50pm - 5579 days | #27 | |
exotics4me (0)
Active User Posts: 664 Registered: Jan 12, '07 Location: USA |
We have myspace pages that have the lower-quality samples, but myspace has become such a "not cool anymore" place that we aren't reaching as many people. We also get parents leaving us messages, "You're ruining my kid!" Have to love the American parents need for constant scapegoats for their kid's "failures". Like saying, "shit" or "bitch" is worse for them than having a $100/mo. cell phone to text their friends with. When we picked up the deal with emusic, they put up samples also of all of the songs on their site and as a group, we've been one of the top 5 downloaded on their site. A site that has Elvis, Johnny Cash, Ray Charles and somehow, we've slid into the top 5. Still, it is hard to ignore over 300,000 views on youtube of some of our stuff, but no 100,000 sellers of cds. I guess though, the most frustrating part is knowing that we have backing from some of the industry's biggest names, Cypress Hill, Everlast, Ice-T, but MTV or VH1 won't touch our videos. Music was my very first love. Funny to most, I'm not a fan of any rappers that came along after 1996. And my music collection has as much British Punk in it as it does rap. We tried a new route and recorded a couple of songs with non-American rappers to try and get a worldwide fanbase. Pretty interesting if you like rap even a little. One is "Apathy/Sluwe Voszz Bakenessergracht","Celph Titled/TNT Rapcore Babel" and "Celph Titled/Lyrical Commission (Aussies)All Out War" I wish I was involved in more things! My weight-training is now a part of my day, the music is a way for me to express my not so good side that shows as a psychologist. I could handle 3-4 things! Still interested in sports, but have lost interest in blogging. Still interested in martial arts, but not interested in moving to Samoa to finish those up. And my wife has been hinting at wanting a kid. I may have to post a "How do I make a baby" thread ha ha. All of the musical connections come from living next door to the guys that went on to form The Psycho Realm. Gustavo and Joaquin known now as Big Duke and Sick Jacken, were like family to us. Duke is now bound to a wheelchair after being shot while trying to break up a fight between strangers. It was almost like everyone from that neighborhood was a dreamer and as we're all nearing 40, we're still dreaming and having way too much fun for our ages! If Khan wants to do the interview in the future, I would be willing to give it a shot. My first time I jacked off, I thought I'd invented it. I looked down at my sloppy handful of junk and thought, This is going to make me rich. - Chuck Palahniuk | |
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08-06-09 11:00pm - 5578 days | #28 | |
badandy400 (0)
Active User Posts: 869 Registered: Mar 02, '08 Location: ohio |
There we have it folks. Exotics is up for an interview and has watched so facial cum-shots that he has forgotten how babies are made. This site should give a clue or two into the only part of the process you have to be involved in. Remember, anything that ever goes wrong with the kid you can simply blame your wife for. After all, you gave her the blueprint of how to make the kid, it was up to her if she was going to follow it or not. :) I went to the same school as one of those guys from Nsync, I bet I misspelled that. I did not know him since he was a bit older. Other than that I do not have any ties to any one in the music or movie industries. "For example, badandy400 has taken it upon himself to become the one man Library of Congress for porn with a collection that surely will be in Guinness Book of World Records some day." ~Toadsith~ PU Interview | |
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08-08-09 11:22am - 5577 days | #29 | |
PinkPanther (0)
Active User Posts: 1,136 Registered: Jan 08, '07 Location: Oakland, CA |
I knew a bunch of people in the movie biz when I was in LA. They were funny. Most of them wound up working on crappy exploitation films, cause that's mainly what they make in Hollywood, but many of them seemed to think that they were doing something more important than people who worked 9-5 jobs, even if they were doing catering for "College Bimbos in Zombie-land" - actually the guy who did the catering was one of the cooler ones in that crowd, but some of them - whew! I did know one girl who managed to work on artier stuff - like Wim Wenders films. That was lucky for her. I'd go visit one friend of mine on sets every once in a while - she worked on a Paul Bartel comedy western in New Mexico - but I'd be bored after half an hour and go do something else. A friend of mine and I used to get extra work years ago - but that was even more boring and we'd leave and go harass the film set nurse - she was a cutie. When she'd get sick of us, it was easy to find a place where we could sleep till it was time to leave. | |
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