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01-15-09  11:58am - 5820 days #114
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01-13-09  07:13pm - 5822 days #68
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As I stated when this site first got going, I tend to avoid DRM sites unless they have good pics with unlimited pic downloads (there are advantages to pics :).

Another good reason to avoid DRM is privacy issues as Denner alluded to. Theoretically, it would be pretty easy to attach a worm, spyware or other device into a DRM activated download; stuff your anti-virus may not pick up. I'm not saying any sites are doing this but it wouldn't take much effort to do so.

I don't really agree with the "pirate it anyway" philosophy. You're better off voting "no" to a site by not joining it because of their DRM practices. By joining and ripping the vids anyways, you're just leading them to believe that DRM is a workable sales model when we all know it's crap.

I don't think pirating this stuff leads to a decrease in quality, most porn is pretty low brow in terms of quality anyways and the top rated sites that do produce high quality original content don't seem to use DRM. The music industry has experimented with some forms of DRM by limiting the number of times people could burn cd copies, by encypting downloads, etc. but they have all pretty much failed because the work arounds are easy and widely available so it doesn't really stop piracy from happening. Porn is probably even worse in terms of piracy because it's a mass produced commodity run put out by a widely dispersed industry that isn't well organized to defend itself legally or technologically against pirating. If the 'mighty music moguls' (say that fast 3x in a row) can't solve the piracy issue the porn biz doesn't have a prayer.

In my opinion, DRM is not a content protection issue, it's purely a sales strategy. Too many newbie webmasters don't really realize this and think that they need to protect their "hot shit" that probably isn't so hot and smells about the same as everyone elses only to find their stuff out there on the porn-jacker sites anyways. I also think DRM can lead to laziness because by protecting their feeds websites probably start to think that they can get by with rotating content because the DRM stranded buyers won't know because they aren't sticking around for months to see everything. Because porn is such a universal and usually unimaginative commodity, there just isn't anything new under the sun that DRM protected sites are protecting ... they're just hiding their content where the sun don't shine. In other words, DRM won't really solve a websites problems and at the same time it alienates a lot of buyers who won't go there because of the DRM. By avoiding those places you send them a message that they need to find a new revenue model. Edited on Jan 13, 2009, 07:25pm

01-13-09  06:38pm - 5822 days #2
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01-13-09  12:24pm - 5822 days #2
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As an initial aside, I dig your new suicidal kitty avatar ... my gf would kill you but I think it's pretty funny.

Back on point, lets face it, porn is a multi billion dollar industry especially down in Cali so it's not surprising to see articles in the mainstream press from time to time. Flynt is just being Flynt, trying to get his name in the press knowing full well that Congress won't give him anything but a subpoena. Porn is suffering a bit but it's not all due to the recession. The market is saturated at the moment with pretty much uniform content. When a lot of things look the same the only outside pressures are price points and new technology advantages. A lot of users don't have access to high end technology or are willing to shell out big $$ for new edge porn (see the forum thread "Virtual Sex is Here ... Almost"). As for price points, it's still pretty easy to rip a site and post it on line so porn is suffering a bit like the record industry has with on-line piracy. Cutting price usually leads to a reduction in a quality which creates its own problems then.

I do note that the down turn you note is in dvd sales and rentals which is to be expected with more and more people flocking to the net for their entertainment. Overall, I don't think porn is hurting as bad as many industries but growth will be flat until some new killer app like 3D or user interaction gets better and cheaper.

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01-07-09  07:21pm - 5828 days #8
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01-06-09  09:55pm - 5829 days #11
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01-06-09  01:29pm - 5829 days Original Post - #1
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Apparently a company (AEBN) is coming out with a virtual sex device for men that is be released sometime this year. The device will attach to your willie and be connected to the internet. As you watch a porn video, apparently you'll be able to feel in a very life like way exactly what is going on. Edited on Apr 20, 2023, 01:32pm

01-06-09  12:34pm - 5829 days #2
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01-05-09  09:54pm - 5830 days #4
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I've probably gone 3 to 4 months without a membership but that was a few years back. Now a days, I'll probably go no longer than a couple of weeks without signing up somewhere. Most of the down time is spent editing and perusing the collection I have or just spent surfing tgp sites.

01-04-09  05:43pm - 5831 days #7
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01-04-09  05:35pm - 5831 days #12
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A long time ago I joined OnlyTease which doesn't limit itself by any means to clothing but a lot of the models don't get fully naked and many tend to cover the boobs when they do. I sort of enjoyed it because it was well done and somewhat provocative and had some pretty attractive models. As a general rule, I wouldn't join a fully clothed site and I tend to stay away from solo sites overall. I think in order for the non-nekkid thing to work a premium has to be put into the tease factor which seems to be becoming more of a lost art.

01-02-09  10:49pm - 5833 days #3
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01-02-09  12:33pm - 5833 days #4
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Well, I can say that it's definitely better than the Detroit Lions going 0-16 ;) Actually, congrats to Drooler. If you want to see the Detroit Lions of PU, go here. Edited on Jan 02, 2009, 02:24pm

01-01-09  09:50pm - 5834 days #27
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Originally Posted by pat362:


I could be wrong on this one, but if I'm correct the man that was sentenced to 20yrs in prison did indeed have drawn images of children having sex with adults, but he also had a large collection of photos and maybe even videos of real children having sex with adults. To find someone guitly and sentence him to 20yrs is rather extreme for the drawn images, but frankly 20yrs is not nearly enough for someone who has the real thing. I'm all for free speech and the like, but once you mess with children then you forgo your right to live among society.


Yes, this wonderful specimen of human society did have actual kiddie porn photos but from what I could gleam from the newsarticles those only accounted for about 1/3 of all the counts he was convicted on. The rest were for "obscene" kiddie porn animae and explicit emails discussing sex with kids. His sentence also got a boost because of prior kiddie porn possession convictions. How much of the sentence he got was for the drawings and emails I can't say but you can bet it's measured in years and not months or days.

I'm not quite so ready to buy into Squirrel's grand conspiracy theories about big brother seeking to oppress us all. This law was passed in part because Congress, in the "findings" preamble that gets tacked on to the beginning of each bill that becomes law, didn't like the Supreme Ct finding that drawings of kiddie porn were not illegal in a prior case and so Congress concluded that drawings are essentially a gateway into actual kiddie porn material. This law was also meant to deal with technology that lets you essentially create highly realistic "phantom kids" and make them into porn stars without having to ruin actual kids.

This is a situation, in my prior post were I listed examples of normal people running afoul of this law, where good intentions have gone too far. It's also damaging because I think some people, albeit a small percentage, might get some pyschological relief from writing about or drawing this stuff as a means of staying away from the real thing or actual molestation (obviously this is a guess on my part).

This is a case where the prosecutor decided that cartoons were bad enough and went for it with a positive outcome from his perspective. I do agree that creating highly realistic imaginery child porn with CGI is disturbing and would only appeal to pedophiles in general. In my opinion that stuff is not good for anyone and should not be in general public circulation. The problem is where to draw the lines. Cartoons and writings are just too far in my book. This is a law that needs to be fine tuned and, if it isn't will either be rejected as constitutionally overbroad or a lot of people, and kids, could find themselves in a lot of hot water some day.

01-01-09  09:34pm - 5834 days #12
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Like Drooler I've also been a surfing Luddite and primarily use Explorer (or "Exploder" as the anti MS crowd calls it). However, since I'm more of a pic person and reading all of the stuff that Firefox lets you do I think it's time to give that a try, especially with those damn .bmp files. Thanks for all the little tips here.

12-30-08  05:41pm - 5836 days #24
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Yup, welcome to 'da law'. Actually, this guy was convicted, in part, for possessing actual child porn and he had prior child porn convictions which probably ramped up his sentence. But, the appeals court did let stand the idea, as stated in the law, that the actual minor does not have to exist. The law under which makes illegal the possession of "animae" child porn was passed by Congress in direct reaction to a Supreme Ct decision that struck down a prior law banning artistic renderings of child porn.

As I mentioned in a previous post somewhere in the forum a woman actually was convicted, she took a plea, for writing about child porn acts and posting it on the net. This anti-child porn law this guy got hammered with was also the backdrop for the woman's conviction. This guy was also convicted of possessing emails that described sex acts with kids under this law.

You're probably OK looking at the young adult / teen hentai stuff but the little kid stuff I guess can land you in deep doo-doo. The final word on "imaginary" kiddie porn is still out on this law but it ain't looking good at the moment. This dude probably should have had a better lawyer for his trial too.

I do agree that this is troublesome because it is fantasy to an extent (fantasy that draws pedophiles like flies to shit). It is also damaging because it means that a 17 year old rape victim couldn't describe her attack on line without fear of prosecution; some junior high kid could probably be held liable for showing people a stick figure cartoon of two people going at it with the words "Billy" and "Sally" (two teen friends) printed on it; a person might face prosecution for taking pictures of minors kissing and fondling (fully clothed) in a park and putting them on the net; and, a parent might face prosecution for putting up a photo of their naked baby on the net (not in good taste or smart but still probably done). This law is not good because it really starts intruding on the more mundane aspects of life and punishes, or can punish, artistic expression unlike any other law. If a jury decides something is obscene or child porn that's all it takes for this law. Edited on Dec 30, 2008, 05:48pm

12-29-08  12:09pm - 5837 days #17
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12-29-08  12:07pm - 5837 days #7
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12-28-08  04:21pm - 5838 days #4
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12-26-08  05:41pm - 5840 days #17
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12-26-08  12:21pm - 5840 days #2
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12-26-08  12:15pm - 5840 days #9
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Mmmm, I was sort of wondering what happened to Pinche. I sort of assumed the abuse he took from the poll about posting fake reviews and the problem(s) he had with the forum would probably drive him underground.

But, to all the those who have survived the Darwinian trek through the forum and and PU in general, thanks for a great and entertaining year here. Hopefully things will continue to improve in 2009. Edited on Dec 26, 2008, 02:16pm

12-26-08  12:10pm - 5840 days #9
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Yeah, I had a post on this subject in the "Free Speech and Porn" (post #21) thread about two weeks ago. It's basically in Beta test right now on a voluntary basis. Knowing the Aussies, they'll probably try it out, find out it doesn't work for shit and then pass it off to the rest of the world ;) If they do want it to work they're going to have to become a lot more like China and some Middle Eastern countries where they have active censors working on the blocks 24/7.

The biggest problem with their little plan is that it's primarily meant to act as a block on child porn sites but today most child porn, from what I read, is handled through web groups and bulletin boards which would not be covered by the current Aussie system. Once again proof that if you want government to help you're just going to end up with a bigger headache than what you started with.

12-24-08  01:03pm - 5842 days #14
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12-24-08  12:14pm - 5842 days #12
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12-23-08  03:53pm - 5843 days #21
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12-23-08  11:06am - 5843 days #5
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All I can say is just think how many starving African orphans he could have fed and immunized if had just put his porn dollars there instead of racking up points here. Wait! What the hell am I saying? This is America and dammit I want my porn and I want people like Exotics telling me where the good sh*t is! Congrats Exotics4me; batting 300 lifetime will definitely get you into the hall of fame.

I won't even get into Toadsith and his "pp syndrome" here in the forum with 400 posts ;-() Edited on Dec 23, 2008, 11:13am

12-22-08  09:25pm - 5844 days #9
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12-22-08  06:27pm - 5844 days #4
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12-22-08  12:44pm - 5844 days #18
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The main problem with "black lists" and "red flag" lists is that people don't quite know how to phrase their distrust to keep them from getting into trouble. To say "this site is total crap and should be avoided" is difficult for a company to do because 1) It involves business libel which has a lower standard of proof than our usual American first amendment liberties; 2) If the site makes changes and the black list is notified of the changes and doesn't keep the list updated in accordance with the updates they can still end up in hot water; 3) Libel laws vary by country so what is fine in the US may not pass muster in Europe (not good in a digital world); and, 4) Even if you are legally in the clear sometimes businesses just get the lawyers going to make a point and to financially drain another business (and Rick has big payments to make on his Ferrari and Malibu Beach House, Barbie optional, so he doesn't want to endanger that ;). So, I don't blame PU/TBP for not going this route. I think we're stuck with expressing our beefs here in the Forum and in our reviews/comments.

12-20-08  01:03pm - 5846 days #2
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I think it's just a way of expanding the vocabulary of porn. Every one has shot indoors since porn started so I guess producers think that we want to see something different now so their taking it outdoors ... besides it saves on set costs. I have no great love of outdoor content because the production value tends to be lower (all sorts of shadows and weird lighting) and it tends to mostly be softcore. It's OK once in a while but not as a serious trend for me. However, if the girl is smokin' hot and the scene is well shot I don't think it really matters where its' shot. Edited on Dec 21, 2008, 12:33pm

12-20-08  12:48pm - 5846 days #16
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12-19-08  08:07pm - 5847 days #41
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Originally Posted by RagingBuddhist:


I'd like to see a niche dedicated to women wearing insulated coveralls and Jack Purcell tennis shoes while carrying 1970's replicas of American Tourister luggage as they whistle Hungarian folk tunes.


Mmmmm, I think OJ pretty much "killed" (I'm so punny, he-he) any appeal for a site featuring attractive women carrying luggage through airports on their way to the car rental desk. I do like the concept but since we're getting into the 1970's wayback machine probably better make sure those coveralls aren't asbestos lined.

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12-18-08  09:18pm - 5848 days #11
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12-18-08  09:09pm - 5848 days #30
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Originally Posted by TheSquirrel:


Wow you really are into Top Gear. Can't believe anyone from the US has even seen it.


Yes, thank God for cable and BBC America. We get a fair number of British shows on that ... but being as we are America we banish them to obscure cable chanels and never let them reach a large prime time audience. That was part of Tony Blair's agreement with Bush ... we go into Iraq with you and America gets to put it's crap all over the BBC while you guys can put our stuff in the cornor. Can't say I'm into Top Gear that much but I think Graham Norton is the total bomb.

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12-18-08  01:20pm - 5848 days #5
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This subject was touched upon in some earlier threads (https://www.pornusers.com/forum/forum_thr...ad.html?threadid=115) but on the face of it Squirrel's case sounds like more of a rip-off tactic than a regional pricing plan. I am assuming your problem is actually with ccbill and not with your credit company hitting you with a nasty exchange rate. This is an issue that has a fix so easy it's laughable (just do the automatic conversion on the sign-up page, duh). I do believe, as was noted some time ago by Denner, that regional pricing in the EU community is illegal but US based or off-shore companies still use the practice.

I have a clarifying question though, at what point in the process do you find out you've been slammed with a bad exchange rate? That might shed some light on who is really at fault in this mess.

(For those just checking in, here is Khan's analysis, Post #18, on the regional pricing subject: https://www.pornusers.com/replies_view.html?id=27865#27906). Edited on Dec 18, 2008, 01:27pm

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12-13-08  01:59pm - 5853 days #5
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Yeah, TBP and PU try and play it somewhat safe when it comes to anything beyond mild discipline and bondage. When you want to keep the feds off your back, don't go sticking your nose too far out there. I don't blame them for doing so, especially since the vast majority of users aren't really looking for that stuff.

Admittedly, spanking isn't my thing either. However, I think you are making excellent use of the forum by letting others know what is out there.

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